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Sobremonte's Acres - 21 Apr 2005 03:05 GMT Prayer request for our missing cat named Buffo. He was last seen on April 18th Monday at 8 p.m. He's not a type of cat to stay outdoor too long for no more than 1/2 an hour. He still has not come home for 2 nights. We looked everywhere for him and calling him by name and no sign of him yet. We do not know if someone stole him, hit by a car, or eaten by raccoons. I am so miserable and my little boy misses him so badly. The cat is black and white, his face is kinda like a mask of a batman. A real cute 5 year old cat. He's a tiny and light as a feather cat. His sister Bella misses him and is looking for him. All I am asking God to please, please bring Buffo back home safe and sound or to bring his dead body home that we can bury him so I can stop worrying. But my prayer has not been answered yet. I am quite sad and couldn't get my minds off him. We did went to two animal shelters and no sign of him there. We are hoping someone will see our post and to bring our cat alive and not stealing it on purpose for a reward. We are not that kind of person to have money. I am so heartbroken and have not sleep for two nights.
Thanks, Brita
Wayne Boatwright - 21 Apr 2005 04:59 GMT Brita, I'm am so sorry that your Boffo is missing. It's miraculous how our babies can come back to us, and I pray that you Boffo will very soon.
With sincere prayers and some good fortune, I'm sure he'll be back to you soon.
Please keep us posted.
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Wayne Boatwright - 21 Apr 2005 05:01 GMT Brita,
Did you think to leave Boffo's favorite food and some water out for him in a place he might easily find it?
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Sobremonte's Acres - 21 Apr 2005 08:27 GMT I can't leave out his food and water, because of the raccoons and opossums. We live in the woods. I mean the woods is not surrounded our house. The coons and possums do come on the back porch if I leave out food and scraps that they will gobble up before Buffo did. (pronounce Boo-fo) Hopefully tomorrow he'll be home by the hands of someone. We just post up a sign in our local store tonight. I suspect the trouble with the next door neighbors, hoping they didn't steal our cat. I know I shouldn't judge them. I've had problems with them two years ago that they took our puppy in their house for 2 hours til I caught them. They've gotten my other cat Hanes, too about a year ago or so for 5 days til he came home in the winter. So why was Hanes' body warm and not cold in the snowy weather? I smelled perfume on him, so I somehow knew it was from the next door neighbor. Sheesh. I've got 8 cats (7 now w/o Buffo).
I'm trying to get some sleep and couldn't get Buffo's name off my mind. Too depressing. Good night.
Brita
M.C. Mullen - 21 Apr 2005 10:47 GMT :I can't leave out his food and water, because of the raccoons and : opossums. We live in the woods. I mean the woods is not surrounded our [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] : : Brita Offer them to get a cat for them. That's what I do when I catch somebody feeding my cat (which I HATE).
Carola
whayface - 21 Apr 2005 17:44 GMT >:I can't leave out his food and water, because of the raccoons and >: opossums. We live in the woods. I mean the woods is not surrounded our [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Carola Keep your cat indoors and you would not have to worry about things happening to them and feeling bad about it. Evidently you do not feel bad enough nor do they mean enough to you to keep them indoors where it is safe for them!!! And also then you would not have to worry about the nieghbors feeding or taking them.
If I see a cat hanging around more then a couple days and they are friendly I get them and take them to the local Humane Society and let them find a caring safe home for them especially during the winter or if I know of someone that want a indoor cat I will check with them first.
I have found homes for 3 kittens and taken 2 kitten, a declawed adult female cat and 2 adult clawed cats to the Humane Society.
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M.C. Mullen - 22 Apr 2005 05:25 GMT : Keep your cat indoors and you would not have to worry about things happening to them and : feeling bad about it. Evidently you do not feel bad enough nor do they mean enough to you : to keep them indoors where it is safe for them!!! And also then you would not have to : worry about the nieghbors feeding or taking them. Here nearly *all* cats are outside. (Except in large cities) I got a call from a lady who wants an indoor only kitten, and nobody gives her one.
: If I see a cat hanging around more then a couple days and they are friendly I get them and : take them to the local Humane Society and let them find a caring safe home for them [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : I have found homes for 3 kittens and taken 2 kitten, a declawed adult female cat and 2 : adult clawed cats to the Humane Society. If you did that here you would be reported to the police for theft!
Carola
Wayne Boatwright - 22 Apr 2005 13:40 GMT >: Keep your cat indoors and you would not have to worry about things >: happening to them and feeling bad about it. Evidently you do not feel [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I got a call from a lady who wants an indoor only kitten, and nobody > gives her one. Curious... Where do you live? AFAIK, in most of the US indoor-only cats are encouraged.
>: If I see a cat hanging around more then a couple days and they are >: friendly I get them and take them to the local Humane Society and let [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Carola
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M.C. Mullen - 22 Apr 2005 16:52 GMT : >: Keep your cat indoors and you would not have to worry about things : >: happening to them and feeling bad about it. Evidently you do not feel [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] : Curious... Where do you live? AFAIK, in most of the US indoor-only cats : are encouraged. Switzerland. That's in the middle of Europe, and it's not Sweden ...
In the north of Europe cats really aren't a problem. We have 'sour' rain (acidy because of pollution), too many immigrants from the east, unemployment, over aging population and things like that. Rabies is no topics, racoons are very rare, martens are more of a problem, but rather for cars than for cats. Snakes live further down - thankfully.
In the south of Europe it's a different story: I have seen stray cats taking over cities and the ancient city of Pompeii is literally going to the dogs (and paying tourists!).
Carola
whayface - 22 Apr 2005 19:18 GMT >Switzerland. That's in the middle of Europe, and it's not Sweden ... > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Carola I live in Michigan, USA and here the winters get bitterly cold especially for cats that are outdoors. One kitten that I found a home for used to sleep under some brush by the cedar tree by our back door. He was there for like 5 days so I found a home for him. When she took him to vet the vet said it was about 8 weeks. Would it be better to leave it outside especially when at night the temp were getting to -19 degrees F and less and the wind chills were in the -30s ?? I don't think so. It is not like if a cat / kitten shows up I take it the first time I see it. But when they are kittens I am not going to leave them out unprotected. I would say that I usually see at least a cat a week laying dead in the street from being hit and left to die if not already dead !!! One of my babies I found setting in the middle of a busy one street on the way home one night sacred stiff. I stopped in the middle of traffic to get him. When I got him home he was sick and had a hernia on his belly and I thought he was going to die. I sat up with him most of the night crying and praying for him until I could get him into the vet and get him well enough to have the hernia removed. In fact you can see pics of him and all our babies we took in at http://users.ameritech.net/lestark/ and go to page one. Should I have left him there to be hit and killed ?!?!?! Sometime now the way he thinks he owns the place and picks on the others I think I should have (Not really) :-( Then there was Kitty who was left when people in the low income apartments by us moved out (I think) and stayed in our garage and 4 weeks later had 5 kittens which I found homes for. She was about 4 years at the time and is 11 now. When I took her in for checkup she was missing her front teeth top and bottom between her fangs and they removed a pellet from her neck and birdshot (Little BBs) from her belly where she had been shot at least twice but thank God she lived. She's just barely trusts me after all this time and the least noise sends her into hiding. Should I have left her and her kitten out in the cold?? My ex's neighbor has a cat that is an outdoors / indoors cat when the idiot lets him in. He said if he is at the doors when he goes in or out he lets him in otherwise he stays out. I can go by there 12 - 1 o'clock at night and he is setting at the door wanting in with snow all over him and the idiot is in bed and the poor cat sets / lays there all night waiting. When I first saw him he weighed like 10 ponds and was 8 years old. I started making a special trip over to my ex's just to feed him. His "owner" used to feed him a cheap cat food that he got at "Sav-A-Lot" which is a cut rate food store and the cat was barely existing on it. I start feeding him 9 Lives and he but on weigh and started looking for me and when I would show up he would run towards me to be fed. I even made a hole so he could get under the porch when it got real nasty and kept dry food there for when he was stuck outside at night. I already told the neighbor that this next winter if he was treated like that I was going to kidnap him. Someone like that does not deserve a cat in my opinion!!! As for the declawed cat I feel anyone who leaves a declawed cat out for 2 - 3 days on end which is what he would spend hanging out at our place does not deserve it. How is he supposed to defend himself if he has to?
I could go on and on about babies I "stole". Sure they weren't all sick and dying. Maybe I should have waited until they were!!! If these cats belonged to someone and they let them get in that shape they deserve to have someone like me take them and if I get arrested at least I saved these babies and gave them a good happy life. You can see the ones that I took in as well as the ones I talked my ex into keeping at
http://users.ameritech.net/lestark/
Sorry I got carried away here but I get passionate about all cats especially kittens.
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Sobremonte's Acres - 23 Apr 2005 03:00 GMT I would do the same like you did. I'm very compasionate to animals. I even raised orphans tiny baby possum, raccoon and skunk when they lost their mom when a car ran over them. I even found homes for puppies and dogs that were unwanted and I kept one dog. That was a long time ago when I used to live in West Detroit, Michigan. But I live in Saginaw County now.
I let my cats out when it's very nice and warmer out during the day. I don't let them out at dusk. But it just happened that Buffo ran out at 8 p.m. when we came home. He still has not come home yet. I assumed he's dead. Do you think hawks can pick up cats and fly away? I know there are many hawks in the woods. We live in a villiage and it's a small country. We live on 2 acres. I will walk around some more tomorrow down the road and calling out his name. Hopefully I see him in the window of someone's house. I just went out in the woods a little bit with my dog in the dark calling him. I still hope he's not dead.
Thanks all for your support as I needed the comfort.
Brita
I live in Michigan, USA and here the winters get bitterly cold especially for cats that are outdoors. One kitten that I found a home for used to sleep under some brush by the cedar tree by our back door. He was there for like 5 days so I found a home for him. When she took him to vet the vet said it was about 8 weeks. Would it be better to leave it outside especially when at night the temp were getting to -19 degrees F and less and the wind chills were in the -30s ?? I don't think so. It is not like if a cat / kitten shows up I take it the first time I see it. But when they are kittens I am not going to leave them out unprotected. I would say that I usually see at least a cat a week laying dead in the street from being hit and left to die if not already dead !!! One of my babies I found setting in the middle of a busy one street on the way home one night sacred stiff. I stopped in the middle of traffic to get him. When I got him home he was sick and had a hernia on his belly and I thought he was going to die. I sat up with him most of the night crying and praying for him until I could get him into the vet and get him well enough to have the hernia removed. In fact you can see pics of him and all our babies we took in at http://users.ameritech.net/lestark/ and go to page one. Should I have left him there to be hit and killed ?!?!?! Sometime now the way he thinks he owns the place and picks on the others I think I should have (Not really) :-( Then there was Kitty who was left when people in the low income apartments by us moved out (I think) and stayed in our garage and 4 weeks later had 5 kittens which I found homes for. She was about 4 years at the time and is 11 now. When I took her in for checkup she was missing her front teeth top and bottom between her fangs and they removed a pellet from her neck and birdshot (Little BBs) from her belly where she had been shot at least twice but thank God she lived. She's just barely trusts me after all this time and the least noise sends her into hiding. Should I have left her and her kitten out in the cold?? My ex's neighbor has a cat that is an outdoors / indoors cat when the idiot lets him in. He said if he is at the doors when he goes in or out he lets him in otherwise he stays out. I can go by there 12 - 1 o'clock at night and he is setting at the door wanting in with snow all over him and the idiot is in bed and the poor cat sets / lays there all night waiting. When I first saw him he weighed like 10 ponds and was 8 years old. I started making a special trip over to my ex's just to feed him. His "owner" used to feed him a cheap cat food that he got at "Sav-A-Lot" which is a cut rate food store and the cat was barely existing on it. I start feeding him 9 Lives and he but on weigh and started looking for me and when I would show up he would run towards me to be fed. I even made a hole so he could get under the porch when it got real nasty and kept dry food there for when he was stuck outside at night. I already told the neighbor that this next winter if he was treated like that I was going to kidnap him. Someone like that does not deserve a cat in my opinion!!! As for the declawed cat I feel anyone who leaves a declawed cat out for 2 - 3 days on end which is what he would spend hanging out at our place does not deserve it. How is he supposed to defend himself if he has to? I could go on and on about babies I "stole". Sure they weren't all sick and dying. Maybe I should have waited until they were!!! If these cats belonged to someone and they let them get in that shape they deserve to have someone like me take them and if I get arrested at least I saved these babies and gave them a good happy life. You can see the ones that I took in as well as the ones I talked my ex into keeping at http://users.ameritech.net/lestark/ Sorry I got carried away here but I get passionate about all cats especially kittens. **********************************************
Wayne Boatwright - 23 Apr 2005 05:22 GMT > I would do the same like you did. I'm very compasionate to animals. I > even raised orphans tiny baby possum, raccoon and skunk when they lost [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Brita I'm so sorry that Buffo hasn't shown up yet. I'm sure there's plenty for him to eat in the woods, and he may very well still be out there. I pray that he is. I feel so bad about this. Where we live in Arizona, the yards are all walled in with solid 6ft walls. Initially we thought that we'd be able to let our cats out for a couple of hours to play. However, we were soon warned about predators. I hate to tell you this, but both hawks, vultures, and owls are all capable of picking up a cat and carrying it off. It could be that the desert versions of these birds may be bigger, however. Let's not think about that right now, though. It would probably be much more difficult for that to happen in a wooded area than in an open field or yard. I pray that you either find him or that he finds his way home.
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whayface - 23 Apr 2005 13:24 GMT I really do hope that you find your dear tabby and he is ok. I understand about them sneaking out. Mine have slid past me a couple times when I have carried in stuff but I live in a second floor apartment with an indoors hallway so I have kind of a buffer zone where they can not get right outside. Assume the best, that someone took him in and has him even though that is not what you really want instead of the fact that he may be gone to the bridge.
As for hawks---- My mother-in-law lives by Birch Run on 80 acres (Half woods) and has a lot of wild life around and I have actually seen a hawk carry away a squirrel. She has 10 cats of which all but one were strays and there is always one sneaking out on her.
Well I have to go get Sam (The one that had hernia) and give him his meds for a soft tissue injury then I have to go feed a couple strays that I have been feeding for the last year and a half so they are fed before we get the 3 to 6 inches of snow they are calling for tonight - UGH.
God bless and good luck.
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M.C. Mullen - 23 Apr 2005 05:02 GMT : I could go on and on about babies I "stole". Sure they weren't all sick and dying. Maybe : I should have waited until they were!!! If these cats belonged to someone and they let [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : : Sorry I got carried away here but I get passionate about all cats especially kittens. This is a different story, I cannot stand it when animals are being ill treated. But in your first post you gave the impression that you'd take away any cat that's outdoors. BTW I have a cat door.
>: >: Keep your cat indoors and you would not have to worry about things >: >: happening to them and feeling bad about it. Evidently you do not >: >: feel bad enough nor do they mean enough to you to keep them indoors >: >: where it is safe for them!!! And also then you would not have to >: >: worry about the nieghbors feeding or taking them. And this was flaming - so I surely defend myself. Believe it or not - my cats do mean something to me, so much that I don't go on holidays, I'd rather be with them.
And I sometimes help out with the animal rescue people. I spent two very precious Sundays trying to catch a stray dog. It was meant to eat food with a sedative, we then would see where it goes and catch it. (Well, it escaped twice, but now they've got it.)
Carola
whayface - 23 Apr 2005 13:29 GMT >This is a different story, I cannot stand it when animals are being ill >treated. >But in your first post you gave the impression that you'd take away any cat >that's outdoors. I would if they were at my doorstep more then a couple days. If they just showed up one in a while, of which there are a couple, I give them the benefit of the doubt if it is nice weather,
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whayface - 23 Apr 2005 13:31 GMT >> Keep your cat indoors and you would not have to worry about things >> happening to them and feeling bad about it. Evidently you do not [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Believe it or not - my cats do mean something to me, so much that I don't go >on holidays, I'd rather be with them. Sorry but I do not consider it flaming. I consider it the truth.
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M.C. Mullen - 23 Apr 2005 15:17 GMT : >> Keep your cat indoors and you would not have to worry about things : >> happening to them and feeling bad about it. Evidently you do not [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] : : Sorry but I do not consider it flaming. I consider it the truth. Look, the situation here seems to be very different from than where you live. USA is not like the rest of the world, even if it is a very important and beautiful nation (I've been there three times so far - north, south and in the middle).
This is what I like about this newsgroup - it's not just about cats but about cats all over the world. And - it's alt.cats - not alt.indoor.cats.
It can't be that all cats must live indoors! There are situations where you can let a cat outside. And on the other hand it's not wrong to keep a cat indoors only if it's appropriate. My cat rescue friend put some kittens into the paper last week that were 'confiscated' from a farm. She got over 30 ! calls during one day of people who wanted the cats.
A thing that bothers me is my next door neighbour: He has 2 females which are not fixed. I know he has got kittens, because I saw his cats pregnant. Today he admitted that there are 8 ! What can I do? I offered to find places for them if he promises to spay the queens. (Should not be too difficult to find homes.) But I feel *this is* irresponsible!
Carola
whayface - 23 Apr 2005 19:39 GMT > Keep your cat indoors and you would not have to worry about things > happening to them and feeling bad about it. Evidently you do not > feel bad enough nor do they mean enough to you to keep them indoors > where it is safe for them!!! And also then you would not have to > worry about the nieghbors feeding or taking them. I guess when it comes down to it that it is the choice of cat owners as to whether they keep them in or out is theirs. I guess I feel about letting cats out like people feel about declawing cats and people probably say the same about me as I say about people that are against declawing. THEY GET CARRIED AWAY!!! It is just that I have seen so many abandoned cats / kittens that have to fend for themselves especially during the winter and so many that have ended up dead. Just the thought of any of mine being back out there makes me sick.
Don't get be wrong. I am anti declawing and none of my babies are before some asks.
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M.C. Mullen - 23 Apr 2005 21:27 GMT : Don't get be wrong. I am anti declawing and none of my babies are before some asks. : : http://users.ameritech.net/lestark/ I'm very anti-declawing myself. In fact here it's strictly forbidden, same as cutting dog's ears and tails. You're not even allowed to import such mutilated pets, which is a handicap for the pets from shelters in Spain, Italy and Eastern Europe which often find good homes here.
Carola
Sobremonte's Acres - 24 Apr 2005 17:13 GMT I don't like declawing cats at all. I don't even like cropping the dogs tails or ears. I have a pitbull that I never have her tail cropped. I like her whippy tail. LOL She's my darling Angel. She was born on Dec. 16, 2002 on the same day my 13 year old dog died. That's why we named the dog Angel. She's a very good watch dog. But not a mean dog. We don't teach her that. I know some people do that to get their pitbulls mean and even Rotties dog, German Shepards.... etc. But Angel will only snarl at strangers for good and scared the pants out of them. ha She is actually a part Lab-Pitbull which I like that mix.
Buffo still has not come home. I was going to go out to look for him in another direction. But we've been have a bad Blizzard since yesterday morning. It still has not stop snowy yet. This urks me. I want Spring!
Brita
whayface - 25 Apr 2005 00:19 GMT >Buffo still has not come home. I was going to go out to look for him in >another direction. But we've been have a bad Blizzard since yesterday >morning. It still has not stop snowy yet. This urks me. I want >Spring! > >Brita We had spring for a few days. :-) Supposed to let up finally tomorrow then a couple days of rain.
I pray that Buffo has found shelter someplace out of this stupid weather.
Suggestion for people that let their cats out. I have seen these cat locator collars that supposedly can help you locate cats if need be. Do not know how good they are but I seen them advertised in Cat Fancy mag.
God bless and good luck.
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Whayface Carrollton, MI
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whayface - 25 Apr 2005 00:27 GMT >Buffo still has not come home. I was going to go out to look for him in >another direction. But we've been have a bad Blizzard since yesterday >morning. It still has not stop snowy yet. This urks me. I want >Spring! > >Brita We had spring for a few days. :-) Supposed to let up finally tomorrow then a couple days of rain.
I pray that Buffo has found shelter someplace out of this stupid weather.
Suggestion for people that let their cats out. I have seen these cat locator collars that supposedly can help you locate cats if need be. Do not know how good they are but I seen them advertised in Cat Fancy mag.
God bless and good luck.
http://members.aol.com/larrystark/
Whayface Carrollton, MI
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Mel - 24 Apr 2005 05:39 GMT >> A thing that bothers me is my next door neighbour: He has 2 females which > are not fixed. I know he has got kittens, because I saw his cats pregnant. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Carola It IS irresponsible. Has he said WHY he hasn't had them spayed? He's too cheap? (Okay, I'm suer he didn't put it that way *s*) Doesn't believe in it? What?
I suppose he thinks "Oh, EVERYone wants kittens." (I have heard this from people before, DRIVES me CRAZY!!!) Yes, then they grow up, and then what do you do with them?!! I'd like to deck people like that! People like that should stick to getting plush animals. Pets are a lifelong responsibility, unless you are brain-motor-cell-function-only.
Is he responsible enough that if you spay the two cats, he will take good care of them? I am a little concerned about neglect is all. I feel it is very generous of you to offer this! Absolutely wonderful......those kitties have no idea what a nice neighbour they have. Not to mention all the unborn kittens who will never have to worry about being born only to end up in the euthanasia room at the shelter.
It IS the person's responsibility to have their cat(s) spayed or neutered. Where I live in Canada, 1) you have to licence your cats. 2) cats are NOT allowed outdoors unless on a lead 3) licencing costs for altered animals (cat or dog) are significantly less than those that are not.
Any animals adopted through the SPCA, Alley Cat Allies, or Street Cat Rescue that are old enough to be spayed/neutered are done before they are taken to their new home. This ensures that the new person does not just pick up their new baby, and forget about the spay/neuter. It has cut down on the number of unaltered critters in our city, but at least there is some control on part of it now.
I wish you luck, and keep us posted on what you decide to do - - - and how things go with your neighbour!
Mel
M.C. Mullen - 24 Apr 2005 08:05 GMT : >> A thing that bothers me is my next door neighbour: He has 2 females which : > are not fixed. I know he has got kittens, because I saw his cats pregnant. : > Today he admitted that there are 8 ! What can I do? I offered to find : > places for them if he promises to spay the queens. (Should not be too difficult
: > to find homes.) But I feel *this is* irresponsible! : > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : cheap? (Okay, I'm suer he didn't put it that way *s*) Doesn't believe in it? : What? I have already placed a kitten for him last year, and he kept the other one, a female, so both his cats got pregnant this spring. He's just too lazy, he didn't even bother to put his motorbike and lawnmower inside over winter, and we had a lot of snow. Yesterday he tried to start the bike, of course it didn't move. His blackberries grow right into my side, even into the footpath. He promised to cut them last autumn ...
: It IS the person's responsibility to have their cat(s) spayed or neutered. : Where I live in Canada, 1) you have to licence your cats. 2) cats are NOT : allowed outdoors unless on a lead 3) licencing costs for altered animals : (cat or dog) are significantly less than those that are not. That's a good thing. Here all one can do is report him to the animal protection organisation. But having kittens is not a crime, it would only be if they were malnourished or the like. For dogs we pay a fortune! It's 200 $ (US) per year. They are thinking about reductions if you take a course with your dog, because many dog owners are rather irresponsible towards other dog owners, pedestrians, joggers, horses, farmers, cyclists etc.
: Any animals adopted through the SPCA, Alley Cat Allies, or Street Cat Rescue : that are old enough to be spayed/neutered are done before they are taken to : their new home. This ensures that the new person does not just pick up : their new baby, and forget about the spay/neuter. It has cut down on the : number of unaltered critters in our city, but at least there is some control : on part of it now. Yes, here it's the same. It's a good solution.
Carola
M.C. Mullen - 24 Apr 2005 16:22 GMT : For dogs we pay a fortune! It's 200 $ (US) per year. They are thinking about : reductions if you take a course with your dog, because many dog owners are : rather irresponsible towards other dog owners, pedestrians, joggers, horses, : farmers, cyclists etc. Sorry - did my mathematics the wrong way round <sigh>. It's about $ 120.- Still enough I think. People with rescue dogs and blind people pay less.
Carola
whayface - 24 Apr 2005 13:22 GMT >>> A thing that bothers me is my next door neighbour: He has 2 females which >> are not fixed. I know he has got kittens, because I saw his cats pregnant. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >kittens who will never have to worry about being born only to end up in the >euthanasia room at the shelter. Here there is no reason not to have a cat or dog spayed or neutered. All a person has to do is go to the local Humane Society and get a certificate to take to your vet and the Humane Society pays the complete bill. My daughter told me about a woman that works with her that has 3 cats that have all had kittens and now she is trying to find people to take them. Hopefully she does not just let them run loose. That will be more cats to have kittens and who knows how many of them will end up feral!!
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Mel - 24 Apr 2005 05:25 GMT >>> Keep your cat indoors and you would not have to worry about things >>> happening to them and feeling bad about it. Evidently you do not [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sorry but I do not consider it flaming. I consider it the truth. I didn't consider it flaming, either. I had intended to respond immediately to your post after you got that original lashback (about being arrested for theft), as I had found nothing in your post that had called for such extreme measures, but life is hectic here, unfortunately.
I commend you on all your efforts - - - if an animal is noticeably neglected or stray, what point is there in waiting weeks on end to see if "someone" might just bother to feed and care for them? A couple of days in good weather, as you said. And in inclement weather, who is going to leave some poor, thin and bedraggled creature huddled outside for any length of time.
You are obviously one of the angels of the animals, there to help them when they need you. Were there only more like you! Too many say "let someone else do it" "they have an owner, let them take care of it" (even if they are NOT). Between the vet clinic I used to work at (which did pro bono work for our local SPCA, as well as for the TNR program one of the local feral cat groups initiates), and volunteer work at the SPCA, first hand is seen the heartache produced because someone who cared did not get to see, or did not step in to help.
To me, it is better to err on the side of caring too much than to pass up one neglected creature just once. People can poke at you all they want, but consider this - - you are giving these small creatures a life of quality, and in some cases, life, period. What are those who speak negatively to you doing for anyone with that speech?
Because of the passionate depths of your kindness, your empathy, your compassion and caring, you have in common something, with great people who were considered extremists, for those very same reasons: . . . . Abraham Lincoln............Albert Schweitzer..................Albert Einstein.
Your original posting had me both sad, and happy. Sad, that those poor creatures had to endure pitiful conditions in the first place, whatever brought them to the point that you found them. Happy, that you found them and their lives changed positively from that point.
Kudos :)
Mel
Wayne Boatwright - 23 Apr 2005 02:55 GMT >: >: Keep your cat indoors and you would not have to worry about things >: >: happening to them and feeling bad about it. Evidently you do not [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Carola We now have 5 cats, all acquired from rescue in one way or another, the latest having been retrieved from a 3rd floor window sill at work. We have so many strays in our area as to be a very pathetic situation. It's common here in Arizona for people who work with rescue to even trap feral cats, have them spayed or neutered, then return them to the wild. If only to try to reduce the overpopulation. Our cats absolutely never go outdoors unless they are escorted by one of us.
It's said there are a huge number of snakes in Arizona. I've lived here five years and never seen one. What I do see many of are tiny lizards, a few cayote and javalina (wild pigs). Of course, this is in the desert.
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Sobremonte's Acres - 23 Apr 2005 04:04 GMT I have friends that live in Arizona and had seen so many scorpions and lizards. One just moved to Lousiana and had been living there many years before, she see so many turtles all over.
brita
Wayne Boatwright - 23 Apr 2005 05:27 GMT > I have friends that live in Arizona and had seen so many scorpions and > lizards. One just moved to Lousiana and had been living there many > years before, she see so many turtles all over. > > brita The scorpions live in the mountains and near their edge. Luckily we're within view of the Superstition Mountains, but far enough away that we never have scorpions. There is at least one variety that are quite deadly. They look for them at night with a black light because they glow a nightmarish blue. The lizards are cute and harmless. Last summer one found it's way into our garage. We were trying to whisk him out with a broom, but he showed a lot of bravado, standing upright on his hind legs and tail and hissing.
I had an uncle who lived in Louisiana for many years. I remember the turtles!
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sriddles@aol.com - 21 Apr 2005 15:10 GMT > I can't leave out his food and water, because of the raccoons and > opossums. We live in the woods. I mean the woods is not surrounded our [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Brita I know this sounds obvious, but did you check with your neighbor? I'm afraid it does not sound good for Buffo. A 5-lb. cat isn't much of a match against a predator, and night-time is the most active time for them. I don't know whether you have coyotes, but this is just past the time of year they are most active, their mating season. Owls can carry off a small cat. Oppossums and racoons generall don't bother cats, unless the cat acts threatening toward it. Did anyone leave in the car while Buffo was out? Cats can get into the undercarriage of a car, and ride for miles away from home. Good luck. I hope you find him.
Sherry
Sobremonte's Acres - 21 Apr 2005 08:29 GMT P.S. I could leave out his number one favorite dried catnip. But I'm all out of it. Will buy some tomorrow. I miss my funny kitty who loves to message my back much better than my husband. LOL
brita
M.C. Mullen - 21 Apr 2005 05:57 GMT Prayer request for our missing cat named Buffo. He was last seen on April 18th Monday at 8 p.m. He's not a type of cat to stay outdoor too long for no more than 1/2 an hour. He still has not come home for 2 nights. We looked everywhere for him and calling him by name and no sign of him yet. We do not know if someone stole him, hit by a car, or eaten by raccoons. I am so miserable and my little boy misses him so badly. The cat is black and white, his face is kinda like a mask of a batman. A real cute 5 year old cat. He's a tiny and light as a feather cat. His sister Bella misses him and is looking for him. All I am asking God to please, please bring Buffo back home safe and sound or to bring his dead body home that we can bury him so I can stop worrying. But my prayer has not been answered yet. I am quite sad and couldn't get my minds off him. We did went to two animal shelters and no sign of him there. We are hoping someone will see our post and to bring our cat alive and not stealing it on purpose for a reward. We are not that kind of person to have money. I am so heartbroken and have not sleep for two nights.
Thanks, Brita
Hopefully he's locked in somewhere like a shed or a garage. If he got hit by a car then you have to look in and under bushes, that's where injured cats hide.
Carola
Sobremonte's Acres - 21 Apr 2005 16:26 GMT Yea, we already looked everywhere like brushes, sewer and ... etc. Boo hoo
brita
Sandra - 21 Apr 2005 08:31 GMT hoping for a safe return.
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CHRIS MCLOUGHLIN - 22 Apr 2005 01:13 GMT My cat beeper took off this week as well. He was gone for three days!! He came back though. Sometimes cats just do that. I sure your cat will be back too. --chris
> hoping for a safe return. majcm - 06 May 2005 19:08 GMT Don't lose hope.I'm sure you've been checking the local shelters and "found" ads in the paper. You could place a "lost " ad and check w/neighbors as maybe someone thought he was a stray & took him in.
A stray we took in got out a couple years ago and was gone 9 days. We did all we could, and had luckily tt neighbors about it becuase on the ninth day a neighbor heard a cat crying and looked at HER neighbors garden shed and saw him in the window! He had been in there all nine days because the day he disappeared was the first pretty day of spring and they has worked in the yard and not opened the shed since then. They felt so bad, but we assured them cats are curious & he just wandered in when they weren't looking. Amazed he survived. He must have drunk rain water the drained under the shed.
Buddy is happy, healthy and weighs about 20 lbs. (okay, so he's kind of a chub!)
So check neighbors outbuildings, maybe he was trapped. Good luck!
> My cat beeper took off this week as well. He was gone for three days!! He > came back though. Sometimes cats just do that. > I sure your cat will be back too. > --chris > > hoping for a safe return.
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