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Beth - 17 Apr 2005 20:58 GMT My kitty is very loving a lot of the time but sometimes she just likes to bite and scratch and do that kangaroo thing where she grabs hold of you with her teeth and pushes her hind legs on you like she's trying to jump off the ground...like a kangaroo. When she wants attention she'll come lay on the floor beside me on her back with her paws up in the air or just all sprawled out on the floor. When I go pet her she lays there and purrs a while then all of a sudden she just starts biting and scratching. It wasn't as bad when she was younger but she has drawn blood a fair few times now. She's not mean in general. She's also known to jump in my lap and just lay there and let me pet her or come sit on the back of the couch and paw at my head in a cute way. Any guesses on how to stop this? My poor arms and hands are going to be scarred for the rest of my life!!
rpl - 17 Apr 2005 21:05 GMT > My kitty is very loving a lot of the time but sometimes she just likes to > bite and scratch and do that kangaroo thing where she grabs hold of you with [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > in a cute way. Any guesses on how to stop this? My poor arms and hands are > going to be scarred for the rest of my life!! Don't pet her tummy.
No idea about the hair-fetish thing.
pat
Beth - 17 Apr 2005 21:16 GMT >> My kitty is very loving a lot of the time but sometimes she just likes to >> bite and scratch and do that kangaroo thing where she grabs hold of you [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > pat Clever! No..she likes to have her tummy rubbed. And it's not only when I pet her tummy. Part of me thinks she's just trying to be playful. She does it just randomly and she doesn't have a hair fetish. Don't be weird. She just likes to be beside me and she'll pat my head when she wants some attention. I'd like some serious answers please. She's my first cat so I'm not sure if they out grow it. She' about 9 months old. She didn't do it when she was just a little kitten. It's been mostly the last 3 months or so.
rpl - 18 Apr 2005 05:46 GMT >>>My kitty is very loving a lot of the time but sometimes she just likes to >>>bite and scratch and do that kangaroo thing where she grabs hold of you [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > when she was just a little kitten. It's been mostly the last 3 months or > so. at 9 months you have a "teenager" cat in temperament. I noticed from other postings that she's declawed... her play/attack balance is a bit upset; she's biting you (harder than normal) because she feels she can't hold on with her front claws. Do find a toy that she (and you) can play rough with (a piece of paper on a string). The only way out of a "bunnykick" is to either press your arm into her (requires practice) or grab her back legs your other hand... put the attacked hand under her chin where she can't reach it; just keep a toy handy until she starts asking you to play with her without attacking you.
And I'm not weird.
pat
Catherine - 17 Apr 2005 21:13 GMT I call the kangaroo thing "bunny kicking," but I know what you're referring to.
I suggest getting your cat some stuffed animals or toys that she can play rough with. Da Bird, available at www.go-cat.com, is an excellent interactive toy that your cat can hunt. There are also some cat toys that you can put over your hand like a puppet. One of my cats has a small stuffed purple puppy. When she starts to play rough with me, I get out her purple puppy and she abuses it :)
Some cats can also become overstimulated by too much petting or playtime. If you're petting her and all of a sudden she starts getting very rough with you, it's best to take a time out.
Do you clip your cat's claws? Clipping the sharp tips with a fingernail clipper is very effective against sharp cuts during playtime :)
Hope this helps!
Catherine
Beth - 17 Apr 2005 21:18 GMT >I call the kangaroo thing "bunny kicking," but I know what you're referring > to. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Catherine Thanks for your suggestions!! She does the bunny/kangaroo thing with her stuffed toys too. She is declawed in front and he back paws are clipped pretty regularly. She gets rough with her teeth more than anything. She sliced my palm pretty good a few days ago. It's so sudden I barely even have time to react!! I'll try the time out option too. Maybe if I ignore her and give her no attention after she does it she'll stop since I think she wants attention when she does it.
jacquie0 - 17 Apr 2005 21:25 GMT >>I call the kangaroo thing "bunny kicking," but I know what you're referring >>to. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > her and give her no attention after she does it she'll stop since I think > she wants attention when she does it. Are you the one that got her declawed? If so, she might be expressing her anger towards you for taking away her self-defense mecanism. I know that it may seem strange for someone to say that, but it is a possibility.
Beth - 17 Apr 2005 21:59 GMT >>>I call the kangaroo thing "bunny kicking," but I know what you're >>>referring [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > anger towards you for taking away her self-defense mecanism. I know that > it may seem strange for someone to say that, but it is a possibility. Yes I did have her declawed but she didn't do it for a while until after she was declawed. It doesn't sound strange that she might do that...but I don't think that's it. I had her declawed because before my apartment building will let you have a cat they have to see that the cat is declawed or they fine you. She was too little when I got her but I had it done when she was old enough. It's just her front and she was beginning to claw things up despide the scratching post that I got her.
Orchid - 17 Apr 2005 22:26 GMT >Yes I did have her declawed but she didn't do it for a while until after she >was declawed. Sadly, the vast majority of declawed cats are biters. They know their first line of defense is gone, so they go to defcon 4 pretty much immediately. You said she's 9 months? The level of acitivty and 'crazies' you describe is pretty normal for a kitten of that age -- you're just getting a worse time of it because she doesn't have her front toes. You need to let her know that what she's doing hurts -- when she hurts you, make a high-pitched cry (like another kitten would) and withdraw all attention from her for five minutes or so.
>I had her declawed because before my apartment building >will let you have a cat they have to see that the cat is declawed or they >fine you. She was too little when I got her but I had it done when she was >old enough. It's just her front and she was beginning to claw things up >despide the scratching post that I got her. You'll need to watch her closely as she gets older for signs of arthritis. Declawed cats are often severly arthritic at earlier ages because the amputation of their last toe joint changes their gait. Also, if she will let you, check her feet regularly to make sure that her toes aren't trying to grow back -- if a surgeon doesn't fully remove all of the germative cells the joint will try to grow back and deform and abcess and all sorts of horrible things. I say 'if she will let you' because declawed cats are very often terrified of having their feet touched -- to a point where training won't help.
Your apartment building sucks. :) I'm not a fan of places that require mutilation as a requirement to live there.
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Beth - 17 Apr 2005 22:35 GMT >>Yes I did have her declawed but she didn't do it for a while until after >>she [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage > Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid I know. I was sad to do it. Fortunately, she does let me play with her front paws pretty easily. before I had them removed she would curl up in my lap and I'd rub her paws and when she healed up I did the same thing and she still likes it. I'm not certain that had I had her somewhere else I ever would have had her declawed. I feel bad about it now, but she is my absolute first pet ever and I was very naive about it. She at least did have the laser surgery instead of normal surgery and healed up nicely. It makes me feel better at least that she isn't too ancy about me touching her front paws. She offers them up quite often : ) I will definitely keep an eye on her little tootsies.
G - 17 Apr 2005 23:07 GMT > I know. I was sad to do it. Fortunately, she does let me play with her > front paws pretty easily. before I had them removed she would curl up in [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > her front paws. She offers them up quite often : ) I will definitely keep > an eye on her little tootsies. Man, this sucks. I feel bad about my last post, I just wished people had more info before jumping in for this kind of procedure. I hope I have not upset you, try and understand that when I first read, my love for the little furballs took over, I just imagined wee Tango with no claws :( You obviously regret what you did, maybe you should warn others against it.
Regards,
Gary.
Beth - 17 Apr 2005 23:22 GMT >> I know. I was sad to do it. Fortunately, she does let me play with her >> front paws pretty easily. before I had them removed she would curl up [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Gary. It's ok Gary. I appreciate the apology :) She does still have her back claws, obviously....I don't think I could live with myself had I had her completely declawed or something awful like that. I understand that it's not the best idea. I'm hoping that the suggestion of letting her know she's hurting me and ignoring her for a few minutes will help with the scratching and maybe she'll eventually grow out of it. Now that I've had a chance to get so attached I understand the reaction, especially in places like this, when someone says that they had their cat declawed.
223rem - 18 Apr 2005 01:15 GMT > Yes I did have her declawed Good for her that she's bitting and scratching you. You deserve that, and more.
Beth - 18 Apr 2005 01:59 GMT >> Yes I did have her declawed > > Good for her that she's bitting and scratching you. You > deserve that, and more. Yes yes, I know...I'm evil. If you read the rest of the messages in the thread you'd see why/how I feel about it/that she's only declawed in front/she is not scared of having her feet touched/many other things. While I understand the backlash...it's not like I'm beating her daily. I've already explained about it in the rest of the posts, so I'll refrain from becoming too troll like since I do understand where you're coming from.
Beth - 18 Apr 2005 01:59 GMT >> Yes I did have her declawed > > Good for her that she's bitting and scratching you. You > deserve that, and more. Yes yes, I know...I'm evil. If you read the rest of the messages in the thread you'd see why/how I feel about it/that she's only declawed in front/she is not scared of having her feet touched/many other things. While I understand the backlash...it's not like I'm beating her daily. I've already explained about it in the rest of the posts, so I'll refrain from becoming too troll like since I do understand where you're coming from.
Beth - 18 Apr 2005 02:03 GMT Sorry...my mail server kept stalling and I tried to resend the post a couple times then when it finally came through it came through three times. That was unintentional! Sorry!
Beth - 18 Apr 2005 02:00 GMT >> Yes I did have her declawed > > Good for her that she's bitting and scratching you. You > deserve that, and more. Yes yes, I know...I'm evil. If you read the rest of the messages in the thread you'd see why/how I feel about it/that she's only declawed in front/she is not scared of having her feet touched/many other things. While I understand the backlash...it's not like I'm beating her daily. I've already explained about it in the rest of the posts, so I'll refrain from becoming too troll like since I do understand where you're coming from.
Karin Gillette - 18 Apr 2005 03:30 GMT My cat was declawed, front only, when she was little. She is 7 now. Occassionally when petting her she will do the same thing which I think is from over stimulation. She will be purring at the same time and if I back off a little she settles down.
I massage her paws, all four of them at least every other day. I have been doing this since she was little and she doesn't mind it. I just use a very gentle touch but I can check her pads and everything at one time. I will start rubbing her leg about an inch or so up rather than just grabbing a paw.
whayface - 17 Apr 2005 21:54 GMT >Thanks for your suggestions!! She does the bunny/kangaroo thing with her >stuffed toys too. She is declawed in front and he back paws are clipped [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >her and give her no attention after she does it she'll stop since I think >she wants attention when she does it. Anytime she bites or scratches make sure you wash hands with an disinfectant soap or put some kind of disinfectant on it even if they have had all their shots !!
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G - 17 Apr 2005 23:03 GMT > Thanks for your suggestions!! She does the bunny/kangaroo thing with her > stuffed toys too. She is declawed <SNIP> Oh oh, you really should not have admitted that in hear...good luck, your gojng to need it! PS - you deserve all you get, sorry but its true. Declawing is bloody awful. How would you like defingered?
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I.P.Freely - 17 Apr 2005 23:16 GMT > >I call the kangaroo thing "bunny kicking," but I know what you're referring > > to. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > her and give her no attention after she does it she'll stop since I think > she wants attention when she does it. Maybe she's pissed off at you for butchering her front paws.
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whayface - 17 Apr 2005 21:51 GMT >My kitty is very loving a lot of the time but sometimes she just likes to >bite and scratch and do that kangaroo thing where she grabs hold of you with [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >in a cute way. Any guesses on how to stop this? My poor arms and hands are >going to be scarred for the rest of my life!! One of mine (Kitty) used to do that until it got to the point where I got infection in my hand and it started up my arm even though she had ALL her shots including rabies. I ended up in the hospital for 2 days until it started going down.
To her she was probably just playing but I started telling her no in a stern voice (Not yelling or hitting her), pulling my hand back and ignoring her. After a while she stopped. Now she will occassionally mouth my hand but she has stopped biting. Even through sometimes I can barely feel her mouth I suppose I should try to stop that but ---
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Beth - 17 Apr 2005 22:00 GMT >>My kitty is very loving a lot of the time but sometimes she just likes to >>bite and scratch and do that kangaroo thing where she grabs hold of you [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > http://members.aol.com/larrystark/ Wow!! yeah, mine has had all of her shots too but I suppose there could be bacteria under her nails. I'll let you all know how it goes :) Here come my stern voice and some ignoring of the behavior!
G - 17 Apr 2005 23:08 GMT > Wow!! yeah, mine has had all of her shots too but I suppose there could be > bacteria under her nails. Im confused, if she is declawed, what nails are you referring to?
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Beth - 17 Apr 2005 23:23 GMT >> Wow!! yeah, mine has had all of her shots too but I suppose there could >> be bacteria under her nails. > > Im confused, if she is declawed, what nails are you referring to? > > G. I mentioned this in reply to your apology post too....she only had her front paws declawed. She still has the back ones. I couldn't imagine how bad I'd feel if the poor little thing couldn't even scratch an itch or something! Sorry, I thought that was clear in my first post.
medusa - 17 Apr 2005 22:51 GMT > My kitty is very loving a lot of the time but sometimes she just likes to > bite and scratch and do that kangaroo thing where she grabs hold of you with [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > in a cute way. Any guesses on how to stop this? My poor arms and hands are > going to be scarred for the rest of my life!! I taught my kitties "ouch" or "ow" at an early age. When they would start hurting me I would stop and say ouch or ow and if need be, grab the offending paw. Now when my cats seem to invite a tummy rub, I will comply but if they start to scratch or kick like you describe, I say ow and stop playing immediately. I have two that enjoy tummy rubs and two that don't.
G - 17 Apr 2005 23:00 GMT > My kitty is very loving a lot of the time but sometimes she just likes to > bite and scratch and do that kangaroo thing where she grabs hold of you [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > and paw at my head in a cute way. Any guesses on how to stop this? My > poor arms and hands are going to be scarred for the rest of my life!! Our Tango is maybe 6 months old, and he does the exact same! He is the friendliest, cuddliest cat I have ever been lucky enough to own. When he starts his playfighting, I just roll my sleeve oer my hand and let him get on with it :) 99% of the time, he doesnt want to bite or scratch, its normally when he is on a hyper spell he starts.
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BarB - 17 Apr 2005 23:11 GMT >My kitty is very loving a lot of the time but sometimes she just likes to >bite and scratch and do that kangaroo thing where she grabs hold of you with [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >in a cute way. Any guesses on how to stop this? My poor arms and hands are >going to be scarred for the rest of my life!! Biting can be a problem with a declawed cat but others do it also. Sometimes it's a cat that was taken from its mother and siblings before it learned how to play gently. You will have to teach her that it hurts when she bites too hard. The momcat would HISS and bop her gently on the nose. I find HISSING works pretty well. Some find that yelping in pain will work.
Try to read signals. How long can she play before becoming over stimulated? Keep a wand toy close to distract her. If she bites, hiss and then ignore her completely.
barb
Boo Radley - 17 Apr 2005 23:27 GMT Hi Beth!
My kitty has been doing the same thing, it seems to have started two years ago, after I went away for 5 days and left him outside with my neighbor to take care of him. When I came back, he started attacking me. Viciously attacking me, though he is not a "mean" cat. I noticed that he would always head right for where my veins are located, too! He also does this with his toys!
After working with him for these two years, I have noticed that something "sets it off," and it is almost like a chemical reaction. He will be lying on my lap, and almost every day we have this problem. I will see his eyes dilate, and he jumps toward my arm with his teeth. I have learned not to react, but to become very still and catch him before he goes into full attack mode. I talk to him very softly and say "no, you don't really want to bite mommy; I know you love me." and it has worked quite well. The only thing is, he will jump down from my lap once he has had this change. Even if he stops in time, he will sort of go "huh!" and jump down. So this has been pretty successful, and no blood drawn in a long time.
There is another thing that is puzzling. I will be in bed with the blanket over me, and Kitty comes up onto the bed, and he starts feeling with his paw. he finds my toe and then takes a bite out of it! One time I watched him as he found something else that he thought was a part of me. He went into the full-on Bunny Kick thing, and I just sat there and thought, "I am sure glad that is not my toe!"
I hope some of this might help. I have had to be very quick to catch him at the very beginning of his attacks.
Best Regards
Boo
> My kitty is very loving a lot of the time but sometimes she just likes to > bite and scratch and do that kangaroo thing where she grabs hold of you [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > and paw at my head in a cute way. Any guesses on how to stop this? My > poor arms and hands are going to be scarred for the rest of my life!! Beth - 17 Apr 2005 23:38 GMT > Hi Beth! > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Boo Ha! My cat does the toe thing too!! But she's done that since before she was even declawed in front. The full out attacks have been recent. At least mine isn't the only nutty cat around. She'll attack my toes and then come curl up right beside me and go to sleep. Perhaps we should she if they have multiple personalities :)
Beth
Boo Radley - 18 Apr 2005 01:02 GMT Hi Beth,
Yes, it is in some way comforting to know that my cat is not the only one who does this. This is my first cat that I have raised from kittenhood, and so I wanted to do the best for him that I could. I was thinking that somehow I had harmed him. I even took him to the vet over just this issue. And of course he was being just wonderful. I explained to her that this was his "normal mode" and then just suddenly he would go into "attack mode." She checked the cat out for any organic disorders, then she gave me the card of a pet therapist. Yeah, right. I sure don't have the buck for that, even if I did believe in it. I believe I can do the best "Pet therapy" on my own... and that is by what I mentioned in my previous letter.... stopping him right when he starts. You know, it seems like even he doesn't want to do this whole biting thing, but is overcome by some force beyond his control. Perhaps we should call in an Exorcist?
Good luck with your kitty,
Boo
>> Hi Beth! >> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Beth
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