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What cat foo brand do you feed your cat(s)

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Brand - 07 Apr 2005 19:35 GMT
I'm using Purina Indoor Cat right now. A vast improvement over the grocery
store brand I use to feed my cats.
I never thought of cat food before I started visiting this place, but now I
worry about my cats getting sick due to the food I feed them.

So, what cat food do you feed your cat(s).
Beth - 08 Apr 2005 00:59 GMT
> I'm using Purina Indoor Cat right now. A vast improvement over the grocery
> store brand I use to feed my cats.
> I never thought of cat food before I started visiting this place, but now
> I worry about my cats getting sick due to the food I feed them.
>
> So, what cat food do you feed your cat(s).

I feed the same thing and mine loves it.  I tried a  protein formula once
and she would have almost rather starved.  She rarely ate it.  but I also
gave her the wet food a couple times a week and treats/crunchy tarter
control snacks a couple times a day.  but after reading things in here and
looking at the bag of cat food...I realize I'm only needing to feed her the
dry food and nothing else.  She's gotten a little tummy and I'm cutting down
on the food now.  I measured the recommended daily amount and she was
probably eating at least TWICE that!!!  So I'm slowly giving her less and
playing with her more than normal to help with that.  That's a long answer
to your question but...perhaps my new found guilt over it got the better of
me! :)  Short answer...I use the same thing :)

Beth
PRESTO - 08 Apr 2005 02:21 GMT
> > I'm using Purina Indoor Cat right now. A vast improvement over the grocery
> > store brand I use to feed my cats.
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> >
> Wow are you trying to give your cat an early death? Look at the first few
ingredients on the package, it probably is some sort of meat by product. If
you really love your cat then spend the time looking for a food that does
not contain food by products.
I feed my Bengal Cat Felidae brand cat food(No byproducts) and it comes out
cheaper than the so called good stuff in the supermarkets. Find a animal
store local to you and research this. As a bonus his feces is 50% smaller
because he's not all bloated on the filler junk. Good Luck!
Brand - 08 Apr 2005 03:07 GMT
>> Wow are you trying to give your cat an early death? Look at the first few
> ingredients on the package, it probably is some sort of meat by product.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> store local to you and research this. As a bonus his feces is 50% smaller
> because he's not all bloated on the filler junk. Good Luck!

That's why I asked. I have no animal shelter within 90 miles of where I
live, so that's doesn't help.
To get something fancy, I'd have to drive about 80 miles to the nearest pet
food store, or pay to have it shipped to me.
PRESTO - 08 Apr 2005 04:06 GMT
> >> Wow are you trying to give your cat an early death? Look at the first few
> > ingredients on the package, it probably is some sort of meat by product.
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>
> Sounds like your content on poisoning your cat with animal by product.
Spend the money now and have it shipped, or pay later in vet bills. You
Decide!
Beth - 08 Apr 2005 11:03 GMT
>> >> Wow are you trying to give your cat an early death? Look at the first
> few
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Spend the money now and have it shipped, or pay later in vet bills. You
> Decide!

I've only been posting here a couple days but...there's no need to be rude.
If the OP is using what I think he's using then it's by Purina which is a
rather large brand.   I doubt it's killing his cat slowly.  My vet and the
animal shelter where I got mine both gave me samples of Iams Eukabania
formula.  Iams is also another just well known brand.  At any rate...there's
no need to be rude.
Brand - 08 Apr 2005 14:00 GMT
>>> >> Wow are you trying to give your cat an early death? Look at the first
>> few
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> Eukabania formula.  Iams is also another just well known brand.  At any
> rate...there's no need to be rude.

Thanks Beth. I had wondered if Iams was worth the extra money.
And as for poisioning my cat with Purina, my vet like Purina foods. That's
what he feeds his house pets.
PRESTO - 09 Apr 2005 01:40 GMT
> > I've only been posting here a couple days but...there's no need to be
> > rude. If the OP is using what I think he's using then it's by Purina which
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>  Iams! LOL! Look at the first few ingredients in Iam's. That is some your
finest marketing at work. I buy 20 pound bags of Felidae brand cat food at
about $28.00, that's at or cheaper than Iam's with no by-products, and
Felidae adds cranberry for the urine tract. Any supermarket food is crap!
Your poor, probably fat! cat :-(, someone call animal control on these
people.
Maresa Tattersall - 09 Apr 2005 09:58 GMT
My cat is crazy for Iams, its got to the point if i put wet food down she
turns her nose up at it! With regards to having food shipeed out,i did this
with my cat and she refused it!So id say as long as your happy with what
you can get and give to your cat and your cat seems happy too you shoulnt
have to spend the earth!
sriddles@aol.com - 10 Apr 2005 07:00 GMT
> >  Iams! LOL! Look at the first few ingredients in Iam's.

I've been doing a little looking at labels...I thought it peculiar that
the first ingredient, the primary one, on the Felidae label is "Chicken
Meal". Yum. Cats are carnivores. They don't eat meal, they don't need
rosemary, alfalfa meal, sage, or flax seed. They need meat.  A fair
quality canned food is far closer to what the cat was designed to eat
than a designer "all natural" cat food.

It's fine to feed a little dry food, IMO, as long as the primary diet
is canned.

That is some your
> finest marketing at work. I buy 20 pound bags of Felidae brand cat food at
> about $28.00, that's at or cheaper than Iam's with no by-products, and
> Felidae adds cranberry for the urine tract.

Speaking of fine marketing...Felidae adds "cranberry meal." The idea is
that it's to help acidify the food. The bad news is that acidified dry
cat food can cause crystals in the urinary tract.

Any supermarket food is crap!
> Your poor, probably fat! cat :-(, someone call animal control on these
> people.

Speaking of "fat", Purina One's fat content, is 33%. Felidae's is 46%.

Sherry
sriddles@aol.com - 10 Apr 2005 05:48 GMT
> >> Wow are you trying to give your cat an early death? Look at the first few
> > ingredients on the package, it probably is some sort of meat by product.
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> To get something fancy, I'd have to drive about 80 miles to the nearest pet
> food store, or pay to have it shipped to me.

Brand, sorry, but somebody's feeding you bullshit. First, there's
nothing wrong with meat by-products, if you're a cat. It simply means
the parts that are not considered fit for human consumption (organ
meat, etc. etc.) It isn't necessarily *bad*...some meat labeled
"byproduct" is highly nutritious. After all, the most perfect form of
nutrition for a cat is....a mouse.
There was a discussion recently on another group regarding Purina's
change in formula. If you're talking about dry food, Purina One Chicken
and Rice is a good choice, if you're limited to grocery stores/Wal
Mart. It's available in both. It also has a low phosphorus content,
which is good. For canned, the choice variety of highest quality (of
the foods available in grocery stores) was Friskies Sliced Gourmet
Grill and Sliced Beef in Gravy. Both listed meat as the first three
ingredients, (USDA even) and it also has a good phosphorus content.
Fancy Feast Grilled Chicken and Grilled Turkey was also a good choice.
I'm really glad Purina has stepped up to the plate with cat nutrition.
Or, you can try Petfood Direct online. They have specials once in a
while and offer free shipping. I also live about 60 miles from a
Petsmart. I try to make it up there once a month and buy in bulk. If I
run out, they do fine on Purina/Fancy Feast till I make it back up
there.
I hope I'm quoting correctly on the above info.; you might search
rec.pets.cats.health+behav using the search words "Purina Chicken and
Rice" and read the thread yourself. The info. was originally posted by
Phil Pass, who definitely knows his stuff.
Good luck,
Sherry
Wayne Boatwright - 10 Apr 2005 06:15 GMT
On Sat 09 Apr 2005 09:48:15p,  wrote in alt.cats:

>> >> Wow are you trying to give your cat an early death? Look at the
>> >> first few ingredients on the package, it probably is some sort of
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> Good luck,
> Sherry

Our income and budget simply doesn't permit us to feed our five cats the
so-called "premium" foods, but they seem to do quite well on Purina One dry
cat foodeither Nine Lives or Sophisticat canned food, whichever happens to
be at a better price when we're shopping.

When we had more income and only two cats, we bought what we considered the
"best" (and certainly expensive) foods we could find.  Since we haven't
been able to do that, we've not seen any decline in our cats.  

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sriddles@aol.com - 10 Apr 2005 07:11 GMT
> Our income and budget simply doesn't permit us to feed our five cats the
> so-called "premium" foods, but they seem to do quite well on Purina One dry
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> --
> Wayne Boatwright *¿*

You do the best you can.  Have you tried them on Friskies canned food
yet? I have all the confidence in Phil's research. It truly seems like
the best bang, nutrition-wise, for the buck.  That's what I'm buying
for my feral barn cats, supplemented with a little dry (and supplement
that with a lot of gophers and rats).
Wayne Boatwright - 10 Apr 2005 07:21 GMT
On Sat 09 Apr 2005 11:11:44p,  wrote in alt.cats:

>> Our income and budget simply doesn't permit us to feed our five cats
>> the so-called "premium" foods, but they seem to do quite well on
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> for my feral barn cats, supplemented with a little dry (and supplement
> that with a lot of gophers and rats).

Actually, yes, but the Friskies didn't go over well.  We buy a week's worth
of food at a time.  On two different occasions we bought various flavor's
of Friskies.  During those weeks very little of the canned food was eaten
and they subsisted mainly on the dry food.  

Go figure.  They clearly have preferences. <g>

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Brand - 10 Apr 2005 16:22 GMT
> On Sat 09 Apr 2005 11:11:44p,  wrote in alt.cats:
>
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>
> Go figure.  They clearly have preferences. <g>
Brand - 10 Apr 2005 17:56 GMT
>> >> Wow are you trying to give your cat an early death? Look at the
> first few
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> Good luck,
> Sherry

Thanks Sherry! My cats do like the Purina One Chicken and Rice. Gobble it
right up!
I've also just started giving them canned food a few times a week so I'll
look into the Friskies stuff.
My cats are getting a little older now, the oldest is 7 this summer, so I
want to take good care of them all so I can have them all around for 7 more
years.
Gntry - 10 Apr 2005 21:29 GMT
Hi all. I lurk around here and learn many things from you all, but I'm
confused. Is canned food better for my 10month old kitten than dry? I  feed
her Iams dry(very pricey..not necessarily good quality??) What should I look
for to be sure its a good quality food? and should I go wet vs. dry?
Thanks for your input...and please no trolling.
C in NY

>>> >> Wow are you trying to give your cat an early death? Look at the
>> first few
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> want to take good care of them all so I can have them all around for 7
> more years.
sriddles@aol.com - 10 Apr 2005 22:48 GMT
> Hi all. I lurk around here and learn many things from you all, but I'm
> confused. Is canned food better for my 10month old kitten than dry? I
feed
> her Iams dry(very pricey..not necessarily good quality??) What should I look
> for to be sure its a good quality food? and should I go wet vs. dry?
> Thanks for your input...and please no trolling.
> C in NY

Hi C,
Yes, IMO, canned food is far better for your kitten than dry. That's
not to say dry food is *bad*--plenty of cats survive, and even thrive
on it--but there are health issues (particularly urinary tract
issues/obesity issues) where it just can't be argued that wet food is
far more beneficial to their health, and much closer to what the cat
was *intended* by nature, to eat. Also, just my opinion, but if the cat
likes dry, there's nothing wrong with a little dry food *in addition*
to the canned.
I am *not* well-versed in cat nutrition--but I do try to research a
little and keep up. Here are a couple of articles which do address the
dry-food issue; they are quite interesting. In the second one, where
the author is addressing the trendy "Natural" dry foods, he's actually
referring to Felidae, although he never names the brand. The ingredient
list is exactly off the Felida label.

http://www.felinefuture.com/nutrition/bpo_ch4.php

http://www.blakkatz.com/dryfood.html

Another thing to consider is, if your kitty eats a predominantly dry
diet, it's really important that he drink plenty of water.

Good luck with your 10-month-old. (I remember that "teenager cat"
stage!!)
M.C. Mullen - 11 Apr 2005 03:21 GMT
: http://www.felinefuture.com/nutrition/bpo_ch4.php
:
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: Good luck with your 10-month-old. (I remember that "teenager cat"
: stage!!)

Thank you for the links, the articles are very interesting and informative.
But I have to add that I had a cat that was not allowed any wet food at all.
She suffered badly from diarrhoea and could not hold it. Special dry food
was the only option.
Plus she got herself 1-2 large field mice per day.

About cleaning the teeth: What sort of raw meat should one give?
My cats have an awful long time chewing it and often end up swallowing large
pieces.

Carola
sriddles@aol.com - 11 Apr 2005 11:28 GMT
> Thank you for the links, the articles are very interesting and informative.
> But I have to add that I had a cat that was not allowed any wet food at all.
> She suffered badly from diarrhoea and could not hold it. Special dry food
> was the only option.
> Plus she got herself 1-2 large field mice per day.

Ah! But she provided herself an *excellent* supplement to the dry food!
Carola, I've read somewhere a breakdown of exactly what nutrients a cat
gains from eating a whole mouse; everything, every part of the mouse
provides a need. The fur/bones clean the teeth; I believe taurine is in
the brain; the contents of the stomach something else. It was really,
really interesting. I'm going to search for that, I think you'd find it
interesting, too.

> About cleaning the teeth: What sort of raw meat should one give?
> My cats have an awful long time chewing it and often end up swallowing large
> pieces.

Seems like dental health is always an issue with our indoor cats. I'd
also like to know the answer to your question. I actually know people
who brush their cats' teeth; mine would have none of that. They must
have started it when they were kittens!

Sherry

> Carola
Justin L - 09 Apr 2005 03:24 GMT
>I'm using Purina Indoor Cat right now. A vast improvement over the grocery
>store brand I use to feed my cats.
>I never thought of cat food before I started visiting this place, but now I
>worry about my cats getting sick due to the food I feed them.
>
>So, what cat food do you feed your cat(s).

I wouldn't worry about your cats getting sick from the food, unless
they are actually getting sick or something.

To prevent some problems in the future, I would feed a good quality
canned food.

I have had good results with the Wellness brand canned food.

http://www.omhpet.com/

ps:Don't listen to that troll, he probably works for that Felidae
company :P

Justin
PRESTO - 09 Apr 2005 06:01 GMT
> >I'm using Purina Indoor Cat right now. A vast improvement over the grocery
> >store brand I use to feed my cats.
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>
> Justin

Ok it's your cat, do what you wish. A little bit of research will confirm my
statements on food by-products.

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