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taking care of cats even when they don't like it

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Richard - 27 Feb 2005 15:55 GMT
Hi,

      My veterinarian told me that I have to brush my cats teeth twice a
week instead of once a week because there is tartar.  My cats do not like
it.  Do they know that I am doing it for their own good or do they think
that I am mean to them?    I guess nobody can really go inside their head
but I wonder if their is studies on that subject or if you have some
opinions on it.

       Thanks,

                Richard
philo - 27 Feb 2005 22:49 GMT
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>                  Richard

have you tried giving them those tarter control treats?
Richard - 28 Feb 2005 00:28 GMT
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> have you tried giving them those tarter control treats?

Hi,

     I don't know about those tartar contol treat but I give them
Prescription Diet TD which is supposed to prevent tartar.  It seems that
nothing can replace brushing the teeth.  However, I always give them a treat
after brushing their teeth.

                       Richard
jacquie0 - 28 Feb 2005 06:11 GMT
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Richard,

       Do your cats get a lot of exercise? I had mine on the TD as
well, and both of them put on an extreme amount of weight. My one guy is
27 pounds!!! Now the vet tells me that he should eat the same food, but
a lot less. They recommended that I only give him 3/4 of a cup of food
per day. Well hells bells, I'm lucky if he eats even that much. He eats
very little for a cat his size. I am slowly weening him off of the TD
and I have started brushing his teeth twice a week. He doesn't mind me
doing this, so I guess that I am lucky that way. Since I have started
doing this, he appears to be slimming down some.
Richard - 01 Mar 2005 23:48 GMT
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> I guess that I am lucky that way. Since I have started doing this, he
> appears to be slimming down some.

Hi

    My cats are indoor cats so they don't get that much exercice.  My cats
gained weight too on TD.  Now I only giving them Prescription Diet TD once a
week and I give the Prescription Diet WD the rest of the time plus a little
wet food (Iams).  I am having problem with their weight too but I find it
difficult to give them less food.

         Richard
KLR - 28 Feb 2005 15:04 GMT
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I did once ask my vet this question and he says that they dont know
the difference between cruelty and similar pain that happens from
necessary vet and other treatments, however I have my doubts:

There are many unpleasant things I have had to do for the good of my
cats that made them very unhappy or hurt them over the years.  

Including, baths, Having to rub creams (prescribed by vet) on wounds
and another time on an infected anus, having to force feed pills 3
times a day for a week, and at one stage having to bath both cats
daily (for a week) with a special shampoo in order to rid them of
ringworm.  Also having to take the kittens temperature (rectally) 3
times a day after it was noted by the vet that his temperature was a
bit high and needed to be monitored, and him brought back immediately
if it didnt drop.  (fortunately it did drop and all was well)

In almost every case though, after the unpleasant procedure is
finished and the cats are set free, they don't seem to hold a grudge,
they are friendly, affectionate and often even purr, so i do strongly
think they understand that while they dont like what you are doing to
them,  you aren't being mean to them

When I do these "necessary evil" things however, I do try and stroke
the cat, and talk to it lovingly as well, I do think it helps.


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As for the tartar,

I simply scrape the tartar off the teeth of both my cats about once a
year.  This isn't as easy as it sounds and needs practice and patience
to get right, but it works very well and is effective in my opinion

I would advise great care in this process though, and find it best to
do it bit by bit over, say 4 sessions  (one a day)

In my experience brushing is a real pain, and i did try it for a while
with a fingerbrush and animal toothpaste from the vets, but it didnt
help the problem and was VERY VERY unpopular with the cat.

it also didnt seem to do much to stop the tartar returning too.

 
Richard - 01 Mar 2005 23:55 GMT
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Hi,

I agree with you.  It seems that my cats understand that I am not mean to
them because after I have done things that they don't like they still come
close to me.   But it is a mystery to me how they can understand that..

Now, concerning tartar.  How do you scrape the tartar?

       Thanks,

                Richard
KLR - 02 Mar 2005 01:13 GMT
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>                 Richard

You have to lie the cat on a pillow on your lap on its side, hold the
head with one hand - and raise the sides of the mouth with one finger
of that hand to get to the teeth.

the edge of a small nail file can be used to dislodge the tartar from
the side teeth. Obviously don't use anything really sharp as it may
cut the gums, lips etc if it slips.   Take great care with this not to
hurt the cat's mouth.  If you arent good with hand tools or fine work
it may be better not to do this.

I find it best to do this over several days, and not do all teeth in
one session.  The cats don't mind too much if you do a couple of teeth
in one session, but if you keep it going to long they start getting
annoyed so best to take a break.

You might have problems doing this on an agressive cat, in which case
the vet is probably the better option.
jacquie0 - 02 Mar 2005 03:03 GMT
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> You might have problems doing this on an agressive cat, in which case
> the vet is probably the better option.

As strange as this might sound, I bought my two cats a chewy dog toy.
They both have their own toy and use them regularly. This has helped in
the tartar control end of things. It was my vet that recommended this to
me since my one guy likes to just swallow his food whole. At first I
thought that maybe he had sore gums or teeth. Don't worry, he has
already been checked over by our vet, and he is in perfect
health.(Except for his weight). He just is too lazy to bother chewing
his food. It doesn't matter what it is that he eats, he just positions
it in his mouth a certain way, and then swallows it. We have tried
different things in the past, but I have to admit that the dog chewy toy
seems to be working. I think that they like the feel it on their teeth,
because they will go for that toy over all of the other ones that they
have. (They are spoiled).

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