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Holly - 21 Jan 2005 14:49 GMT
Low and behold I had a knock on my door last night around 8 pm. Now when someone knoocks on our door they are greeted by the whole crew. I open the door and Isabella darted out and up into the arms of the lady standing at my door.This is the same lady who claimed she was not hers. To make a long story short she is Isabella's meowmie, but there is more.
I asked why she did what she did and her responce
was that they had found out that her Daughter was
severly allergic to Isabella (daughter is only 5 months old)
so they had tried to make Isabella stay outside, I assume
thats how she wound up at my house. She appolized for
hanging up on me and lying to me but she was afraid that
I would Judge her for her actions.
Well Isabella is officially ours now and I may
take some flames for this but Isabella's old
Meowmie asked was it okay to visit her from time
to time. I said yes because I do understand that
people make mistakes. The lady even returned the
money that I had spent of Isabella at the vet.
Oh I do have it in writting that she is now our cat,
so my question is have I done the right thing. I have
thought about giving the money back since she is
now officially my cat but I would like any advise
you guys could give.
I.P.Freely - 21 Jan 2005 15:19 GMT
> Low and behold I had a knock on my door last night around 8 pm. Now when someone knoocks on our door they are greeted by the whole crew. I open the
door and Isabella darted out and up into the arms of the lady standing at my
door.This is the same lady who claimed she was not hers. To make a long
story short she is Isabella's meowmie, but there is more.
> I asked why she did what she did and her responce
> was that they had found out that her Daughter was
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>  now officially my cat but I would like any advise
> you guys could give.

Nope, that's OK but I would spend a bit of the money on toys for Isabella
and show them to her old owner just as abit of good faith. :)
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Holly - 21 Jan 2005 15:35 GMT
We went to pet smart already and got a cool new bed,
and a few toys I took Isabella with me and she fell
in love with this butt ugly condo thing, It looks
like one you would find at a family dollar or
something, it matches nothing in my house, it has
this ugly yellow carpet around it and is only 2
levels high. But since she was so into it I bought
it ( I can resist Purrs and that I am but a poor
Kitty stare). So we get home I set it in the corner
she makes herself at home and stays there, when
Sasha and Pheniox checked it out she was cool
with that as long as they dont scratch on it.
If they scratch it she immideatly goes and scratches it.
So i forsee a stuggle in the near future.
jacquie0 - 21 Jan 2005 15:29 GMT
> Low and behold I had a knock on my door last night around 8 pm. Now when someone knoocks on our door they are greeted by the whole crew. I open the door and Isabella darted out and up into the arms of the lady standing at my door.This is the same lady who claimed she was not hers. To make a long story short she is Isabella's meowmie, but there is more.
> I asked why she did what she did and her responce
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>  now officially my cat but I would like any advise
> you guys could give.

Congratulations meowmie!!!!! I think that you are doing the right thing.
It is obvious that Isabella loves her former mistress, but due to the
circumstances, she is better off with you for everyone involved. As for
the money being paid back to you, don't worry about it. She must have
wanted to pay it, or she wouldn't have offered in the first place. If
for some reason she was offering to make herself feel less guilty, then
so be it. It is not like you asked her to pay you back. I am really glad
that you are allowing Isabella to be visited by her former mistress.
Don't worry, she will probably grow tired of visiting rather quickly,
and you will then have Isabella all to yourselves. I'm also glad that
you got everything in writing. That way both you and Isabella are
protected. You are one smart cat meowmie.
Holly - 21 Jan 2005 15:41 GMT
jacquie0 I would like to ask you a question,
you seem to be a much a cat slave as me. It
does not snow offten here but it is now, and
Sasha just loves to look at it and even though
it is cold wants to go out in it now. So what
I did was to knit her some booties, I linned them
with Moleskin, I also Knitted her alittle hat
to go with it. But I do limit her outside time
to just 10 minutes or so and never unsupervised.
So tell me have I gone off the deep end?
Gary Stone - 21 Jan 2005 15:55 GMT
Just one comment (not being critical). What if the cat needs to use it's
claws?

Stone

> jacquie0 I would like to ask you a question,
> you seem to be a much a cat slave as me. It
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> to just 10 minutes or so and never unsupervised.
> So tell me have I gone off the deep end?
Holly - 21 Jan 2005 16:02 GMT
Hi Stone, How are the kitties?
That is why she is not allowed out unsepervised. Just incase she needs some help.
Gary Stone - 21 Jan 2005 19:38 GMT
> Hi Stone, How are the kitties?
> That is why she is not allowed out unsepervised. Just incase she needs
> some help.

Cool, out here in the forest they need their claws ;-) Kitties doing fine
curled up together by the fireplace at the moment.

Stone
Mary - 21 Jan 2005 17:15 GMT
> Just one comment (not being critical). What if the cat needs to use it's
> claws?
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> > to just 10 minutes or so and never unsupervised.
> > So tell me have I gone off the deep end?

You sound like a f.cking moron to me, and
I am stupid over cats.
Gee - 23 Jan 2005 15:31 GMT
"Mary" <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:jNaId.45655

> You sound like a f.cking moron to me, and
> I am stupid over cats.

With that lingo, you just got yourself killfiled! You are rude, you attack
Holly all the time, and now you are name calling people. You remind me of
Bob Brenchley, and TRUST ME that';s NO compliment!

By By.

Holly, pay NO attention to her idiotic comments. I think its cute to put
clothes on your pets. Just as cute as putting clothes on your kids. A lil
help in the winter does nobody no harm! So forget playa-haters and do what
you want. You are not harming anyone, you are just showing your love!
Mary - 23 Jan 2005 17:25 GMT
> "Mary" <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:jNaId.45655
>
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> help in the winter does nobody no harm! So forget playa-haters and do what
> you want. You are not harming anyone, you are just showing your love!

Hee! Playa-hatas! I had heard that the IQ over here was pretty
low, but I had to see for myself.

Holly, stop bullshitting people for attention. I am sure you have something
perfectly worthy of engaging in there somewhere. Find it. And for
Christ's sake stop with the booties and hats.
jacquie0 - 21 Jan 2005 19:12 GMT
> jacquie0 I would like to ask you a question,
> you seem to be a much a cat slave as me. It
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>  to just 10 minutes or so and never unsupervised.
>  So tell me have I gone off the deep end?

It is not something that I would personally do, but then
again.....different strokes for different folks. People thought that I
was crazy when they found out that I warm up my cats wet food for them.
I don't care for cold food, (unless it is suppose to be cold), so why
should I make my cats eat cold food? I also went out and bought one of
those water fountain thingys. My cats love it, yet, our friends think
that I am nuts. They all tell me that a cat is just a cat. When I ask
them about the toys that they buy for their dogs, they say that their
dogs are their companions and are a part of their families. Well
duhhhhh, so are my cats.
I think that if knitting booties and hats for your cats is what you want
to do, then who am I to judge. Fill your boots Holly.
Amy Gray - 21 Jan 2005 20:59 GMT
>People thought that I
>was crazy when they found out that I warm up my cats wet food for them.
I do that too.  I have cats who won't tolerate cold food.

>They all tell me that a cat is just a cat.
But then people think  i'm  crazy because I give my cats
bottled water. (Our water tastes awful, if I won't drink
it why should my cats drink it?  

>I think that if knitting booties and hats for your cats is what you want
>to do, then who am I to judge. Fill your boots Holly.
I would add they warn every year to be careful about the effects of
cold on pets.   Right now here it is all of 5 degrees above zero. (and
this is at 3:44pm in bright sunlight).  

Why not knit hats and booties for a cat?  Dog owners have been
doing it for years.   (You haven't noticed all the halloween
costumes they sell for dogs?)

Go down to your local pet store sometime, they will need to
pick you up from the floor after you see all the stuff they
sell for dogs.
Sherry - 22 Jan 2005 06:07 GMT
> People thought that I
>was crazy when they found out that I warm up my cats wet food for them.

Doesn't everyone? :-)

Sherry
Gee - 23 Jan 2005 15:38 GMT
> It is not something that I would personally do, but then
> again.....different strokes for different folks. People thought that I
> was crazy when they found out that I warm up my cats wet food for them.

Thats a brilliant idea, I never thought of it! And Imgoing spare with mine
not wanting to touch the foodfromthefridge :) How do you warm it up,
microwave or stove?

>, our friends think
> that I am nuts. They all tell me that a cat is just a cat.

Yeah, I lost couple of "friends" who said that to me when my QT died. I
figured people with that kind of attitude who not only dislike cats, but
also have no respect for my feelings for them, have no place in my life.

>When I ask
> them about the toys that they buy for their dogs, they say that their
> dogs are their companions and are a part of their families. Well
> duhhhhh, so are my cats.

What is the metter with some people? How can they love just one type of
animals and hate/dislike the others? How crazy is that? What kind of belief
is that? Cats may be more aloof and you need to fight for their love more
then for dogs, but to think they are not part of family is ridiculous!

> I think that if knitting booties and hats for your cats is what you want
> to do, then who am I to judge. Fill your boots Holly.

Exactly :) She is not harming anyone.
M.C. Mullen - 21 Jan 2005 22:01 GMT
| So tell me have I gone off the deep end?

Yes, but don't worry about it <laugh>!

Carola
M.C. Mullen - 21 Jan 2005 15:31 GMT
| Low and behold I had a knock on my door last night around 8 pm. Now when someone knoocks on our door they are greeted by the whole crew. I open the
door and Isabella darted out and up into the arms of the lady standing at my
door.This is the same lady who claimed she was not hers. To make a long
story short she is Isabella's meowmie, but there is more.
| I asked why she did what she did and her responce
| was that they had found out that her Daughter was
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| now officially my cat but I would like any advise
| you guys could give.

I'd say that's not only a happy ending, but a very happy one !!
You had enough expense so far, take the money and pay from now on.
Let the lady pay since she wants to make well what she did, she feels bad,
you actually do her a favour.
Well, at least that's my opinion.

Carola
Gee - 23 Jan 2005 15:51 GMT
"M.C. Mullen" <mcmullen@freesurf.invalid.ch> wrote in message
news:41f179e2$0$3411

> I'd say that's not only a happy ending, but a very happy one !!
> You had enough expense so far, take the money and pay from now on.
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>
> Carola

I cannot agree more! The 1st meowmy is feeling awfully bad and guilty for
what she's done and its taken a lot out of her to come to your door and
admit it all. She probably couldn;t  live with her concence. Money was just
a way of relieving her guilt, so let her. Its OK. I can;t imagine what I;d
do if I had to choose between my child or a furrchild! There is no way I
could live without either! So I can imagine she was well stressed, and hoped
to keep Isabella , but for her to stay out. I know its not fair on Isabella,
so this is probably the second best option for her, to have her adopted
nearby so she can visit. Let her visit. Its OK, you might even gain a new
friend. I dont think she is a bad person, just a victim to horrible
circumstences,a dn unable to deal with it correctly and on time. She clearly
wasnt abusive to the cat, or cat would never run to her.

I can imagine she will also give you more presents for Isabella in the
future, its ok.

Finally I am so glad this worked out for the best for you and her and most
importantly to Isabella. Everyone is happy :) (And also good you have it all
on paper! )

Enjoy :)

Gee
Mary - 21 Jan 2005 17:14 GMT
> Low and behold I had a knock on my door last night around 8 pm. Now when someone knoocks on our door they are greeted by the whole crew. I open the
door and Isabella darted out and up into the arms of the lady standing at my
door.This is the same lady who claimed she was not hers. To make a long
story short she is Isabella's meowmie, but there is more.
> I asked why she did what she did and her responce
> was that they had found out that her Daughter was
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>  now officially my cat but I would like any advise
> you guys could give.

My bullshit-o-meter just went off. This sounds like the
biggest crock of sh.t I have ever heard. The cat
JUMPED into her ARMS? Please. There are
places for writing fiction, toots.
I.P.Freely - 21 Jan 2005 19:02 GMT
> > Low and behold I had a knock on my door last night around 8 pm. Now when
> someone knoocks on our door they are greeted by the whole crew. I open the
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> JUMPED into her ARMS? Please. There are
> places for writing fiction, toots.

Chill - everyone exaggerates some time or another. My Q knows the sound of
my voice and even my car engine and runs to meet me when I pull up outside
the house each time just like a little dog. I imagine Holly was referring to
something similar.

I don't know what you have against Holly but you seem to take delight in
attacking her in the group as the opportunity presents. I would suggest you
might like to grow up and start contributing contrustively instead of trying
to persecute anyone who dares allow their cat to breed. You may not realise
it but it is you who is coming across as the idiot, not your victims.
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Mary - 21 Jan 2005 19:08 GMT
> > > Low and behold I had a knock on my door last night around 8 pm. Now when
> > someone knoocks on our door they are greeted by the whole crew. I open the
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> to persecute anyone who dares allow their cat to breed. You may not realise
> it but it is you who is coming across as the idiot, not your victims.

Has Holly allowed her cat to breed? I seem to recall that now, but my last
comments
have to do with the posts I replied to. Tell you what, genius--you post what
you
want to and I will post what I want to. And since we are giving out free
advice,
here's some for you: your posting name is not one that inspires credibility.
HTH.
Wayne Boatwright - 22 Jan 2005 04:52 GMT
On Fri 21 Jan 2005 12:08:56p, Mary projectile vomited...

> Has Holly allowed her cat to breed? I seem to recall that now, but my
> last comments
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> here's some for you: your posting name is not one that inspires
> credibility. HTH.

You really are a card carrying bitch!
Mary - 22 Jan 2005 05:19 GMT
> On Fri 21 Jan 2005 12:08:56p, Mary projectile vomited...
>
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>
> You really are a card carrying bitch!

*Bows*

Thank you.
Sherry - 22 Jan 2005 05:48 GMT
>> Chill - everyone exaggerates some time or another. My Q knows the sound of
>> my voice and even my car engine and runs to meet me when I pull up outside
>> the house each time just like a little dog. I imagine Holly was referring
>to something similar.

You've got to admit that it's far beyond normal cat behavior to jump up in
someone's arms, literally. It's extremely unusual for a cat to tolerate wearing
mittens. It's also highly astounding that a blind and deaf cat who'd never been
outside before would escape to the outdoors, be missing for three days, and
return on its own safe and sound.
Absolutely miraculous I say.

Sherry
Gee - 23 Jan 2005 15:26 GMT
> >> Chill - everyone exaggerates some time or another. My Q knows the sound of
> >> my voice and even my car engine and runs to meet me when I pull up outside
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>
> Sherry

Oh FFsake!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is NOT miraculous and it DOES happen! Cats primary sense is NOT sight NOR
hearing its the SMELL! So if she can smell outdoors, and she can, and has
legs that work,she will WANT to explore it,and will do it if given
chance,and will come back when hungry, what is so hard to understand! Geez!
Get off Holly's back! My friends cat went off for 6 weeks and came back! So
there!

As for jumping into ones arms, cats can be trained to do anything! My Lil
One climbs up me, literarily, then sits on my shoulder. Is that miraculous?
No! its sweet, its what I let him do, so yes cats can be trained to do
whateva! Have you never seen Homeward Bound? Well I suggest you do!
Mary - 23 Jan 2005 17:23 GMT
"Gee" <Gee@canttellya.com> > > Absolutely miraculous I say.

> > Sherry
>
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> No! its sweet, its what I let him do, so yes cats can be trained to do
> whateva! Have you never seen Homeward Bound? Well I suggest you do!

Wow. You sound hysterical, and also stupid. Quite an accomplishment.
Amy Gray - 21 Jan 2005 20:35 GMT
>My bullshit-o-meter just went off. This sounds like the
>biggest crock of sh.t I have ever heard. The cat
>JUMPED into her ARMS? Please. There are
>places for writing fiction, toots.

I would add if a cat wants attention it is attracted to anyone who
will give it attention.   I'll go over to visit a friend, the cat who
never interacts with anyone will come over to me to enjoy any
attention they can get.  

It also doesn't help that when I visit these friends their cat(s)
can readily smell my cats.

So when I come into the room the cats smell my cats and
instantly feel a driving need to claim me as their territory
even though the cats they smell are miles away in another house.
Amanda Jones - 22 Jan 2005 01:34 GMT
> My bullshit-o-meter just went off. This sounds like the
> biggest crock of sh.t I have ever heard. The cat
> JUMPED into her ARMS? Please. There are
> places for writing fiction, toots.

The larger of my cat cubs does something similar if I've been out of the
flat for a while - he stands on the shelves in the kitchen, jumps on to
the shoulder, and nibbles my ear, purring.

Amanda
Mary - 22 Jan 2005 18:01 GMT
> > My bullshit-o-meter just went off. This sounds like the
> > biggest crock of sh.t I have ever heard. The cat
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> flat for a while - he stands on the shelves in the kitchen, jumps on to
> the shoulder, and nibbles my ear, purring.

He sounds really darling.
Amanda Jones - 24 Jan 2005 16:17 GMT
> > The larger of my cat cubs does something similar if I've been out of
> > the
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>
> He sounds really darling.

They are both lovely. When I went to bed last night, Elijah was curled up
on a pile of clean sheets on the chest of drawers in the hall, and Yossie
was asleep on the spare room bed. When I got up in the middle of the night
to get some water, they'd swopped; Elijah was asleep on the spare room bed
and Yossie on the pile of sheets. First thing this morning, they were
curled up together on the sheets, in one of those gorgeous "bundle of cat
cub" poses - where you can't tell which white leg belongs to which white
cat!

Amanda
Mary - 24 Jan 2005 17:21 GMT
> > He sounds really darling.
>
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> cub" poses - where you can't tell which white leg belongs to which white
> cat!

Wow. If I can ever handle two more cats, I want to get siblings that
cuddle like this. It's adorable.
Amanda Jones - 24 Jan 2005 23:02 GMT
> Wow. If I can ever handle two more cats, I want to get siblings that
> cuddle like this. It's adorable.

We don't know if they are siblings - they were both strays, found
wandering around in the same road a couple of weeks apart. They probably
are - the smaller was malnourished and appeared smaller, but the vet now
reckons they are brothers. It doesn't matter - they love each other
anyway!

http://uk.geocities.com/avjoneslondon/homepage.html

http://uk.geocities.com/avjoneslondon/Elijah_Yossie_kittens_1.html

http://uk.geocities.com/avjoneslondon/Elijah2.html

http://uk.geocities.com/avjoneslondon/Yossie2.html

http://uk.geocities.com/avjoneslondon/elijahyossie2.html

Amanda
Gee - 25 Jan 2005 00:09 GMT
> > Wow. If I can ever handle two more cats, I want to get siblings that
> > cuddle like this. It's adorable.
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> reckons they are brothers. It doesn't matter - they love each other
> anyway!

They are just SOOOO beautiful!  I remember when you took them in one by one
:) Im so glad its a happy ending. How did you sort out the door problem (if
I rememebr correctly)?
Amanda Jones - 25 Jan 2005 16:24 GMT
> They are just SOOOO beautiful!  I remember when you took them in one by
> one
> :) Im so glad its a happy ending. How did you sort out the door problem
> (if
> I rememebr correctly)?

Yes - Elijah scratched the bedroom door like mad if he was outside it and
we were inside, and it was driving Adam round the bend!

I bought some anti-Elijah stuff, which is like big strips of double-sided
sellotape. It works really well for about 3 months, then gets less sticky
and he starts up again, then it can be replaced.

He sometimes yells instead of scratching, but it's not nearly as annoying
and his stamina for yelling is much less than for clawing!

They are both fully grown now, I think, and still utterly gorgeous,
friendly, and loving - towards each other and any random people who pop
by!

At the moment Yossie is perched on my left shoulder like a parrot, which
is very cute but makes typing more tricky, and Elijah is lying on my desk
looking sleepy.

Amanda
Mary - 25 Jan 2005 01:49 GMT
> > Wow. If I can ever handle two more cats, I want to get siblings that
> > cuddle like this. It's adorable.
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>
> http://uk.geocities.com/avjoneslondon/homepage.html

Oh, that pink nose on Yossie!!

> http://uk.geocities.com/avjoneslondon/Elijah_Yossie_kittens_1.html

Love the sleepy faces here, and the child's expression. What a great thing
to do for a child, getting two kittens like this and taking good care of
them.

> http://uk.geocities.com/avjoneslondon/Elijah2.html

Ha! Alien Yoga Cat!

> http://uk.geocities.com/avjoneslondon/Yossie2.html

Yossie's expression in the first photo is just something
to fall in love with. And the mouse! My cat has a snake
she "kills" several times a day. Does Yossie howl when she
does it?

> http://uk.geocities.com/avjoneslondon/elijahyossie2.html

These are happy critters. Thanks for sharing, Amanda.
Amanda Jones - 25 Jan 2005 16:24 GMT
> Oh, that pink nose on Yossie!!

So, I'm utterly biased - but they are the most gorgeous animals (-:

> > http://uk.geocities.com/avjoneslondon/Elijah_Yossie_kittens_1.html
>
> Love the sleepy faces here, and the child's expression. What a great
> thing
> to do for a child, getting two kittens like this and taking good care of
> them.

Molly (the 9 year old) isn't ours - she's the daughter of a friend of
mine, but it's difficult to tell these days, she comes round every weekend
to play with them, and they love her for her endless patience in dangling
toys for them!

No, he's not actually a very vocal cat. When he's finally "killed" the
mouse (it's extraordinarily durable, I can only recommend it) he gives a
high pitched squeak, and looks very smug indeed.

> > http://uk.geocities.com/avjoneslondon/elijahyossie2.html
> >
> These are happy critters. Thanks for sharing, Amanda.

We've been very lucky - we didn't plan to get cats, but then the cubs
showed up and stuck around! They are endless fun and joy (-:

My boyfriend didn't like cats - and still says he doesn't apart from the
cubs. But last night, I was throwing up all over the place (morning
sickness) and therefore slept on a sofa with a bucket near by. When I went
into the bedroom this morning, my boyfriend was fast asleep with Yossie
equally fast asleep on the pillow next to him - he'd felt lonely in the
middle of the night and let him in!

Amanda
jacquie0 - 25 Jan 2005 18:45 GMT
>>Oh, that pink nose on Yossie!!
>
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>
> Amanda

Another one bites the dust, as it were. LOL. Or should I say, "There's a
sucker born every minute".
jacquie0 - 25 Jan 2005 04:06 GMT
>>Wow. If I can ever handle two more cats, I want to get siblings that
>>cuddle like this. It's adorable.
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>
> Amanda

Amanda,

They are absolutely precious. I am sure that you will have your hands
full keeping up with these two. Good luck, and have fun.
Amanda Jones - 25 Jan 2005 16:24 GMT
> They are absolutely precious. I am sure that you will have your hands
> full keeping up with these two. Good luck, and have fun.

They mostly only have two moods - "manic" and "off", with very short gaps
in between!

Amanda
M.C. Mullen - 25 Jan 2005 18:14 GMT
| > They are absolutely precious. I am sure that you will have your hands
| > full keeping up with these two. Good luck, and have fun.
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|
| Amanda

Amanda,
You have great kittens! I'm a bit envious, but then my Cinderella looks
nearly the same as your lot: All white with a tabby tail and two
markings between the ears. She was born 1st April.
But don't worry - they will all settle down sooner or later, enjoy the
"kitty fits" as long as they have them :-)

Carola
Amanda Jones - 27 Jan 2005 03:17 GMT
> You have great kittens! I'm a bit envious, but then my Cinderella looks
> nearly the same as your lot: All white with a tabby tail and two
> markings between the ears. She was born 1st April.
> But don't worry - they will all settle down sooner or later, enjoy the
> "kitty fits" as long as they have them :-)

I don't know - my parents' imaginatively named "Little Cat" might be 9
years old, but still chases leaves and her own tail!

Amanda
Holly - 24 Jan 2005 14:58 GMT
Yes Mary, She went out door, got on chair and jumped in Lisa'a arms. My cats greet me daily and the kitten will literaly climb up my pants to get in my arms. But I am sure that is a lie to. You should really get a life.
Mary - 24 Jan 2005 17:26 GMT
> Yes Mary, She went out door, got on chair and jumped in Lisa'a arms. My cats greet me daily and the kitten will literaly climb up my pants to get in
my arms. But I am sure that is a lie to. You should really get a life.

Holly. I think we are clear, here. Just cut the crap. You don't need it.
People who do not
call you on this stuff are not doing you any good. Embellishment is not
necessary,
terminal sappy cuteness is not necessary. Hats and booties? Please. Dress
your cats
up in these and ask your real life friends what they think of this. Watch as
the cat
tries to bite off the booties and looks at you like you are out of your
little mind.
Use your HEAD for Christ's sake.
Holly - 24 Jan 2005 17:55 GMT
I have used my mind, Sasha has no problem with her booties or her hat. My dog has never objected to wearing his coats either. You can belive as you wish, I can say one thing though I remember telling one lie in my life and my daddy beat me good enough that that was the last time, Same goes for my son who is now grown. So lying is not tolerated in my home. So my response to you IS WHAT THE F*&K EVER OKAY
Mary - 24 Jan 2005 18:07 GMT
> I have used my mind, Sasha has no problem with her booties or her hat.

Holly. Everyone here has CATS, see? That use their paws for many
reasons, and hate things put on their heads. Get it? This sh.t just
will not fly, girl. Give it up. Later, you will thank me, I feel sure of
that. :)
Gary Stone - 24 Jan 2005 23:14 GMT
> Yes Mary, She went out door, got on chair and jumped in Lisa'a arms. My
> cats greet me daily and the kitten will literaly climb up my pants to get
> in my arms. But I am sure that is a lie to. You should really get a life.

I wouldn't even reply to that BITCH mary Holly, she's not worth the energy
it takes and at this point I would assume a good many of us regard her as
nothing more than that.

Stone
Mary - 25 Jan 2005 01:50 GMT
> > Yes Mary, She went out door, got on chair and jumped in Lisa'a arms. My
> > cats greet me daily and the kitten will literaly climb up my pants to get
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> it takes and at this point I would assume a good many of us regard her as
> nothing more than that.

So, Stone, you're up with the booties and hat, eh?
Holly - 25 Jan 2005 17:15 GMT
Thanks Stone,
I was glad to hear that the kitties are doing well.
Oh and I have to ask how is BANDIT faring in this cold weather, sorry I got a thing for raccons.
Gary Stone - 26 Jan 2005 00:01 GMT
> Thanks Stone,
> I was glad to hear that the kitties are doing well.
> Oh and I have to ask how is BANDIT faring in this cold weather, sorry I
> got a thing for raccons.

I won't see either Bandit or Mama coon till spring, I don't think they
hibernate but they so do get a lot less active in the winter here. I'll put
some scraps out for her while she is pregnant but once she has the babies I
stop. Don't want them imprinting on humans too early in life.

Stone
Ashley - 21 Jan 2005 19:34 GMT
> Oh I do have it in writting that she is now our cat,
> so my question is have I done the right thing. I have
> thought about giving the money back since she is
> now officially my cat but I would like any advise
> you guys could give.

I think it's worked out perfectly.
Dik F. Liu - 21 Jan 2005 21:33 GMT
Congratulations. You did the right thing, as you can obviously provide a better
home for this cat, and her previous human seems wanting to surrender a cat that
she can not keep indoor.

Re: the money she gave you. If you feel uncomfortable accepting the money - and
I understand why you would feel that way - why not donate it to charity?

Dik
Amy Gray - 22 Jan 2005 02:19 GMT
>Low and behold I had a knock on my door last night around 8 pm. Now when someone knoocks on our door they are greeted by the whole crew. I open the door and Isabella darted out and up into the arms of the lady standing at my door.This is the same lady who claimed she was not hers. To make a long story short she is Isabella's meowmie, but there is more.
>I asked why she did what she did and her responce
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> now officially my cat but I would like any advise
>you guys could give.
I would not return the money, after all you're going to end
spending alot of money to care for the cat.

You could very well spend upwards of $7,000+
on the cat during it's lifetime.

I would add, the cat going into the arms  of this woman
may be misleading.   If i have visitor who doesn't like
cats/is alergic cats guess which person the cat is
magenetically attracted too?   It works every single time.

In this caase it worked out that way but it may be misleading.
Lori - 22 Jan 2005 05:24 GMT
>Low and behold I had a knock on my door last night around 8 pm.

<snip>

> I would like any advise you guys could give.

Holly,

It sounds like a good arrangement to me for everybody.  You get to
keep Isabella, her previous owners knows she's in a good home and can
check on her, and Isabella is still spoiled rotten, which is how cats
should be.

My mother has a similar situation in which she adopted her neighbor's
friend's Siamese (kid and cat did not mesh well apparently).
Sometimes when the neighbor's friend comes to visit, she'll also peek
in at Mom's to check on Ralph.   The lady really appreciates knowing
the Ralph has a good home and that he is quite spoiled rotten.  I'm
sure Isabella's previous human will appreciate it, too.  

I have noticed that as more time passes, the friend's visits to Mom's
become less and less frequent.  I think as she realizes what a good
home Ralph is in, the more comfortable she is with his placement
there.  I imagine that she will eventually stop checking in on him.

As for the money, what the others have said pretty much covers what
I'd say, too.  I don't know if I'd keep it or not since I've never
been in that situation.  If it bugged me about keeping it, I'd find a
local cat rescue center and give it to them since returning it to her
would only hurt her feelings.  I know where I used to live in Ohio had
a place called The 10th Life that would rescue domestic cats and keep
them until they were adopted.  I think it participated in a
catch/neuter/release program for feral cats as well.  

Anyway, good luck with all of your children.  Mine are telling me it's
time for sleep now, so I'd better finish up here and listen to them.

Grins,

Lori

"Only cat lovers know the luxury of fur-coated, musical hot water
bottles that never go cold." - Susanne Millen
Holly - 25 Jan 2005 17:23 GMT
They are definatly Spoiled rotten in deed,
They pretty much have there way (they are of
course in charge but let me think that I am.)
There are spoiled in the aspect that they are
treated just like children,They do not eat cold
food and the only drink bottled water,They go to
the park for walks, eat their meals out of glass dishes,
they have a water fountain (which was great for
stopping Pheniox from demanding that the water
in the sink be turned on so she could drink),
they have enough toys to entertain an Army,
they have there own cat trees except for Isabella who
picked out a kitty condo instead. We bought them collars
that have their Birthstone on them (I am not sure of exact bithdays so
we went by what the vet had to say. The only thing that they dont
have is a self cleaning litter box and that is because it terrified Pheniox when we tried it.
So Yes they are definatley spoiled rotten.
MaryL - 22 Jan 2005 07:37 GMT
<snip>
>Well Isabella is officially ours now and I may
> take some flames for this but Isabella's old
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> now officially my cat but I would like any advise
> you guys could give.

Keep the money.  Use it to buy food and toys for Isabella if you are short
on funds.  I money is not a problem for you, then a *very* good use of it
would be to make a donation to your local animal shelter.

MaryL
Dave McMahon - 22 Jan 2005 20:19 GMT
Just look after the cat as best you can. Don't forget to creat an emergency
exit plan (Your kids might get injured trying to rescue the cat, and if you
can 'bag' the cat quick you might be able to save kitty as well. Perhaps you
can drop (don't do this normally!!!) kitty on soft grass etc they have
advanced self-righting abilitys so should land on all fours.

Also vary thier food as they get 'sucked into one food easily.
Gary Stone - 23 Jan 2005 02:17 GMT
> Just look after the cat as best you can. Don't forget to creat an
> emergency exit plan (Your kids might get injured trying to rescue the cat,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Also vary thier food as they get 'sucked into one food easily.

Now this is interesting. My cats won't eat the same thing for their evening
feeding that they had for morning feeding. I leave out dry food at all times
and wet for breakfast and diner. Also, if I take it out of the fridge I have
to nuke it for 7 seconds or they won't touch it.
 
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