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Cat Forum / General Topics / January 2005We have a new house guest
I went outside to take out trash and this lovely little lady followed me in. She has a collar on but when I called the number and inguired as to weather thay had lost there cat they hung up in my ear. I will check shelter, etc but if no one claims her she can hang around. She is very friendly. I posted a pic of her here http://community.webshots.com/album/253334681JwdUVa. She needs a name any suggestions? What a darling! how about calling her Darling?  SignatureSandra > I went outside to take out trash and this lovely little lady followed me in. She has a collar on but when I called the number and inguired as to weather thay had lost there cat they hung up in my ear. I will check shelter, etc but if no one claims her she can hang around. She is very friendly. I posted a pic of her here http://community.webshots.com/album/253334681JwdUVa. > She needs a name any suggestions? Holly, For some reason the link is not working. Is there another way that we can view them? >> I went outside to take out trash and this lovely little lady followed me in. She has a collar on but when I called the number and inguired as to weather thay had lost there cat they hung up in my ear. I will check shelter, etc but if no one claims her she can hang around. She is very friendly. I posted a pic of her here http://community.webshots.com/album/253334681JwdUVa. >> She needs a name any suggestions? >> >Holly, For some reason the link is not working. Is there another way >that we can view them? "We're sorry! The Webshots page you have requested has either moved or no longer exists." > >> I went outside to take out trash and this lovely little lady followed me in. She has a collar on but when I called the number and inguired as to weather thay had lost there cat they hung up in my ear. I will check shelter, etc but if no one claims her she can hang around. She is very friendly. I posted a pic of her here http://community.webshots.com/album/253334681JwdUVa. > >> She needs a name any suggestions? > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The Webshots page you have requested has either moved or no longer > exists." Its OK now try again. >http://community.webshots.com/album/253334681JwdUVa. >Its OK now try again. The page works, apparently you have to remove the period. >> I went outside to take out trash and this lovely little lady followed me in. She has a collar on but when I called the number and inguired as to weather thay had lost there cat they hung up in my ear. I will check shelter, etc but if no one claims her she can hang around. She is very friendly. I posted a pic of her here http://community.webshots.com/album/253334681JwdUVa. >> She needs a name any suggestions? >> >Holly, For some reason the link is not working. Is there another way >that we can view them? Remove the full stop (.) at the end of the URL and it works fine :) mighty fine cats :) >I went outside to take out trash and this lovely little lady followed me in. She has a collar on but when I called the number and inguired as to weather thay had lost there cat they hung up in my ear. That should answer your question about whether it was lost. (i.e. they went out of their way to "deliberately" lose the cat.) | >I went outside to take out trash and this lovely little lady followed me in. She has a collar on but when I called the number and inguired as to weather thay had lost there cat they hung up in my ear. | That should answer your question about whether it was lost. (i.e. | they went out of their way to "deliberately" lose the cat.) But why then did they leave the collar on? Carola >But why then did they leave the collar on? Maybe because they're stupid? If they wanted the cat they would have made sure they answered the phone when the call came. >I went outside to take out trash and this lovely little lady followed me >in. She has a collar on but when I called the number and inguired as to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >http://community.webshots.com/album/253334681JwdUVa. > She needs a name any suggestions? Lovely. She's got quite an exotic tabby coat, so I'd be tempted to find an exotic-sounding name for her. Don't have any suggestions right now, but will let you know if one springs to mind :-) >>I went outside to take out trash and this lovely little lady followed me >>in. She has a collar on but when I called the number and inguired as to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > exotic-sounding name for her. Don't have any suggestions right now, but > will let you know if one springs to mind :-) Well, she's a tabby and as you say exotic. How about Tabetha?? Stone > Well, she's a tabby and as you say exotic. How about Tabetha?? Tabitha ain't exotic to my mind. I was thinking more along the lines of naming her after a Hindu goddess or some such. A google search throws up these interesting-sounding Hindu goddess names: Lakshmi, Shakti, Kali, Maya, Sita - there's more, but those are the names I like :-) >> Well, she's a tabby and as you say exotic. How about Tabetha?? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Lakshmi, Shakti, Kali, Maya, Sita - there's more, but those are the names > I like :-) Yeah, I'm bad at names, my two cats still (after 6 months) have their shelter names. Emily and Gretchen. Stone | > Well, she's a tabby and as you say exotic. How about Tabetha?? | [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | Lakshmi, Shakti, Kali, Maya, Sita - there's more, but those are the names I | like :-) Most of them eat babies and ask for blood ... C. >>I went outside to take out trash and this lovely little lady followed me >>in. She has a collar on but when I called the number and inguired as to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >exotic-sounding name for her. Don't have any suggestions right now, but will >let you know if one springs to mind :-) Since she is Lost, name her Kate. >I went outside to take out trash and this lovely little lady followed me in. She has a collar on but when I called the number and inguired as to weather thay had lost there cat they hung up in my ear. I will check shelter, etc but if no one claims her she can hang around. She is very friendly. I posted a pic of her here http://community.webshots.com/album/253334681JwdUVa. > She needs a name any suggestions? Got it to work. Apparently you need to remove the period at the end of the URL. BTW, the cat is cute. Name? Spike. > I went outside to take out trash and this lovely little lady followed > me in. She has a collar on but when I called the number and inguired [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://community.webshots.com/album/253334681JwdUVa. She needs a name > any suggestions? I would give the information to the shelter, along with the info from the tag, and that you called them & were hung up on, and ask them what you should do (short of bringing the cat to the shelter). If they follow up with their own call and are hung up on as well, I would guess you now have a nedw cat. Make sur ethat this is documented at the shelter, so the previous owners do not try to reclaim her at a later date. Could also be that the previous owners have moved & abandoned the cat, and the new residents of the house or whoever got their phone number has no clue what you're talking about. --? The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)? email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:33:44 GMT, "Magic Mood Jeep©" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote: >Could also be that the previous owners have moved & abandoned the cat, and >the new residents of the house or whoever got their phone number has no clue >what you're talking about. Possible but not likely. More than likely they dumped the cat and don't want to find it. Besides if the previous owners moved and the cat was missing they would have told the new owers they wanted to hear from anyone who found the cat. To me the fact they hung up the phone speaks volumes. i. e. they wanted to loose the cat. Besides, if they moved and you called the number on the tag, you would get a message saying the number has been disconnected. It may or may not provide the new number, the new owners of the house would not have the same number. If you move today you're phone number won't be re-assigned for 6+ months at least. I know, i've moved enough over the years. (Also I disconnected a phone line about six months ago, it has not been re-assigned yet.) | > I went outside to take out trash and this lovely little lady followed | > me in. She has a collar on but when I called the number and inguired [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] | nedw cat. Make sur ethat this is documented at the shelter, so the previous | owners do not try to reclaim her at a later date. Excellent advice! Carola > I went outside to take out trash and this lovely little lady followed me in. She has a collar on but when I called the number and inguired as to weather thay had lost there cat they hung up in my ear. I will check shelter, etc but if no one claims her she can hang around. She is very friendly. I posted a pic of her here http://community.webshots.com/album/253334681JwdUVa. > She needs a name any suggestions? Oh she is beautiful. Cos she looks like a Tiger, the only name for her is Tigger (from Vinnie the Poo) or maybe a Tigerlilly (Tigerlily?) as its a girl :) (Can ;t rememeber what story Tigerlilly comes from!?) Beautiful kitty!! PS as for the hung up, could it maybe have been a child on the phone who hung up? Perhaps make one more phone call, just in case. Also have her checked for microchip at the vets just in case.I always worried someone would come and claim my Charlie(who was a stray) but luckily nobody ever did, so I microchipped him. "Gee" <Gee@canttellya.com> wrote in message news:gy_Gd.5476$f77.579@newsfe5- > or maybe a Tigerlilly (Tigerlily?) as its a girl :) (Can ;t rememeber what > story Tigerlilly comes from!?) aah,foundit,from Peter Pan: Princess TigerLily ! >Cos she looks like a Tiger, the only name for her is Tigger (from Vinnie the >Poo) Vinnie the Poo? Who is Vinnie the Poo? >PS as for the hung up, could it maybe have been a child on the phone who >hung up? Perhaps make one more phone call, just in case. Also have her >checked for microchip at the vets just in case.I always worried someone >would come and claim my Charlie(who was a stray) but luckily nobody ever >did, so I microchipped him. Except there are like eight types of microchips, none compatible with the others. > >Cos she looks like a Tiger, the only name for her is Tigger (from Vinnie the > >Poo) > Vinnie the Poo? Who is Vinnie the Poo? Its a famous teddy bear from children's stories. Well he's famous in England anyways :) Tigger is his friend, a gorgeous but scared of everything tiger :) >> >Cos she looks like a Tiger, the only name for her is Tigger (from Vinnie > the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > anyways :) Tigger is his friend, a gorgeous but scared of everything tiger > :) Actually, it's Winnie the Pooh, author AA Milne http://www.1solo.com/WinnieThePoo.htm http://www.worldwideshoppingmall.co.uk/toys/shelves/winnie-the-poo.asp http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0416199615/026-3851717-7710831 I'm astounded that someone in the English-speaking world hasn't heard of him - this is as classic as you get in terms of children's literature. "Ashley" <ashleyjaneNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message news:nKdHd.9115 > > Its a famous teddy bear from children's stories. Well he's famous in > > England anyways :) Tigger is his friend, a gorgeous but scared of everything tiger > > :) > Actually, it's Winnie the Pooh, author AA Milne That's the guy! > http://www.1solo.com/WinnieThePoo.htm > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I'm astounded that someone in the English-speaking world hasn't heard of > him - this is as classic as you get in terms of children's literature. Actually lots of countries(not necessarily jus English speaking) haven;t heard of him, or have but he isn't as popular as in UK. Where I grew up, Disney and Hans Christian Andersen stories were far more popular - Hence me not knowing how to spell his name correctly :) I personally never cared for him nor read any of stories about him, but couldn;t help but notice Tigger :) I even named one of my cats Tigger :) > Actually lots of countries(not necessarily jus English speaking) haven;t > heard of him, or have but he isn't as popular as in UK. I grew up at the very opposite end of the earth from the UK, and believe me, we've heard of him! Where I grew up, > Disney and Hans Christian Andersen stories were far more popular - Hence > me > not knowing how to spell his name correctly :) I personally never cared > for > him nor read any of stories about him, Me, too, believe it or not. But I most certainly know of him but couldn;t help but notice Tigger > :) I even named one of my cats Tigger :) "Ashley" <ashleyjaneNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message news:kWhHd.9193 > > Actually lots of countries(not necessarily jus English speaking) haven;t > > heard of him, or have but he isn't as popular as in UK. > > I grew up at the very opposite end of the earth from the UK, and believe me, > we've heard of him! I believe you, I'm just saying in MANY countries they haven;t. >> >Cos she looks like a Tiger, the only name for her is Tigger (from Vinnie >the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >anyways :) Tigger is his friend, a gorgeous but scared of everything tiger >:) Do you mean Winnie the Poo? Him I heard of but not his brother Vinnie. > >> >Cos she looks like a Tiger, the only name for her is Tigger (from Vinnie > >the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Him I heard of but not his brother Vinnie. It's his cousin, from New York. "Amy Gray" <JudgeAmyGrayNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message > Do you mean Winnie the Poo? Yeap that's the guy.Sorry I never actuially read any of his stories :) Where I grew up people never even heard of him. > Him I heard of but not his brother Vinnie. Tomato, tomato. You knew what I meant. Hey I still speak English better then most of you MY mother tongue :) | "Amy Gray" <JudgeAmyGrayNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message | [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] | Tomato, tomato. You knew what I meant. Hey I still speak English better then | most of you MY mother tongue :) ... better *than* ... <grin> ... She sure is a pretty cat. I hope you get to keep her. Pheniox is a good looking cat too. May be they will get to be friends. Dik > She sure is a pretty cat. I hope you get to keep her. Pheniox is a good looking > cat too. May be they will get to be friends. > > Dik She is definately an exotic looking little lady. What a shame that whoever owned her doesn't care enough about her to take her back. I agree with the fact that you should call the shelter to let them in on what has happened so far. If in fact they can find out why the owners don't want her anymore, but, that you are willing to keep her, they might just find out what her actual name is. If for some reason they can not get any information on her, then, yes, she will definately need an exotic name. For some reason when I first saw her, she looked like an "Isis" to me. Well I have called every shelter in town, went by the house, they claim she is not theres but she acted like she knew right were she was. I have made an appointment at the vets to have her checked, shots, spay if needed etc. She already has a name silly me did not look on the back of her bell. Her name is Isabella. I think it suits her. I have posted a legal ad in paper stating that I have her and will give the owner 30 days to claim her if after 30 days she is not claimed she is ours. > Well I have called every shelter in town, went by the house, they claim she is not theres but she acted like she knew right were she was. I have made an appointment at the vets to have her checked, shots, spay if needed etc. She already has a name silly me did not look on the back of her bell. Her name is Isabella. I think it suits her. I have posted a legal ad in paper stating that I have her and will give the owner 30 days to claim her if after 30 days she is not claimed she is ours. I think that you made the right decision Holly. Does she respond to the name Isabella? If she does, then by all means let her keep it. It will be less stressful on her in the long run. I hope that you will get to keep her, and that a child somewhere is not crying themselves to sleep at night missing her just because their parent(s) don't want the responsibility of taking care of a cat. I know that she will get all of the love that she deserves being with you. By the way, how are Pheonix and Sasha responding to her? Good luck and God bless your kind heart. >I think that you made the right decision Holly. Does she respond to the >name Isabella? If she does, then by all means let her keep it. It will [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >By the way, how are Pheonix and Sasha responding to her? >Good luck and God bless your kind heart. It's very possible that some kid is crying himself to sleep while dad ignores the phone calls and refuses to even admit they had a cat. (i.e. Dad threw the cat out.) >>I think that you made the right decision Holly. Does she respond to the >>name Isabella? If she does, then by all means let her keep it. It will [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups > ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- Sorry Amy, but, why is it always put on Dad to be the heavy? Who knows, maybe MOM threw it out. Maybe she got tired of constantly having to try to control the shedding. I'm sorry, but it really ticks me off to see that most people blame the male species when it comes to things like this. You see, I volunteer for a non-profit group that deals with issues regarding the equality of men. It used to be that women wanted equal rights. Well, as soon as that started happening, men started loosing their rights as husbands and fathers. That is a whole different topic, and one better left alone for now. Sorry for the rant. Holly.....you are doing a very smart thing by keeping them seperate for now. I knew when you first posted that you were a responsible cat owner. Again, God bless your kind heart. >Sorry Amy, but, why is it always put on Dad to be the heavy? Who knows, >maybe MOM threw it out. Might be because of my gender. I'm hard wired to blame the male. Blame it on a system stacked overwhelming in favor of the man and screws women. It's been like that for alot of years. >>Sorry Amy, but, why is it always put on Dad to be the heavy? Who knows, >>maybe MOM threw it out. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >overwhelming in favor of the man and screws women. It's been like >that for alot of years. Pre-Judge Amy Gray. Great to see your TRUE colors are beginning to show. The downhill slope starts here, and it looks like a double black diamond. Have a nice slide! eq > Sorry Amy, but, why is it always put on Dad to be the heavy? Who knows, > maybe MOM threw it out. Maybe she got tired of constantly having to try [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > rights. Well, as soon as that started happening, men started loosing > their rights as husbands and fathers. Sorry, but since you brought it up, I just have to say this: male specimens ARE the ones who have been beating women for 20 centuries and gave them as many rights as to an animal(so none). So after 20 centuries, sorry, women have a good reason to be ticked off with men just a little. We are finally taking the things into our own hands,and trying to be more independent, but can man give us this much? No.They still want more, and still looking for the way to put women down or stub the successful ones in the back. Men still expect dinner on the table when they (as well as the wife) come home and their shirts ironed, and still avoid looking after the kids as much as possible.So sorry, but I don't see what exactly IS their problem, and what KIND of equality/rights do they STILL want! But like you said, it is a different subject, but IMHO, you might be more needed in a battered woman's shelter. You can;t give equality to someone who already has all the power.And no not all the men are the same, but even in developed countries like UK/USA, lots of men think that is perfectly OK to hurt a woman/child/animal and are getting away with it every day cos the woman is too scared to press charges. Did you know that police can;t do anything to a stoker(stawker?) unless s/he does somephysical damage/? Did you know that the maximum penalty for paedophiles is only 6 months in prison? Did you know that 1 in 3 women have been raped, and barely 5% of men ended up in jail for it? Did you know women were only allowed to vote from 1940's and in some countries they still have to ask husbands for permission to go outside the house!And men who have no respect for women will NOT have respect for animals either. Women will raise their hands less because they are genetically programmed for caring more. So sorry, no I think most men have a long way to go and learn (and law changed) before they dare start asking for some "equality"! Sorry guys, no disrespect intended, but you KNOW this is all true. (And no, I'm not a lesbian/feminist/single!) >>Sorry Amy, but, why is it always put on Dad to be the heavy? Who knows, >>maybe MOM threw it out. Maybe she got tired of constantly having to try [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Sorry guys, no disrespect intended, but you KNOW this is all true. (And no, > I'm not a lesbian/feminist/single!) Oh really. Did you know that a woman can charge her husband with rape, even though they had consentual sex? Did you know that over 45% of men are abused in some way by their wives? (They don't report it because of embarassment). Did you know that when a couple are in process of getting a divorce, all a woman has to do is say that he raised his voice to her, and he gets put in jail without even an investigation to back up her allegations? Did you know that once he is put in jail, he looses all rights to his children until he can prove that he loves them and is a good father? Did you know that even though he pays child support, he still can't see his children? Did you know that when two people file for a divorce, both lawyers will contact eachother to find out what the income of both parties combined is? That way they know how long they can drag it out before both parties involved are broke and can't afford to pay them anymore. DON'T tell me that women have it so rough. I am a woman, and I know what men have had to go through just to try to see the children that they have had torn away from them. I have been to their conselling sessions, and to their mediation sessions. Women are BITCHES when it comes to divorce, because they don't want to loose. They want it all!!! They are NOT thinking about what is best for their children, because they don't care, as long as they can win over their husbands. By the way, did you also know, that when a woman finally gets custody of the children, that the grandparents on the fathers side don't get to see them anymore either? Is that fair to the children? I THINK NOT!!!!! > > But like you said, it is a different subject, but IMHO, you might be more > > needed in a battered woman's shelter. You can;t give equality to someone who [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > Oh really. Yes. Yes really. >Did you know that a woman can charge her husband with rape, > even though they had consentual sex? Any woman could do that. The same way that every man who raped a woman says the sex was consecsual. The point is, that not many women will go through rubish like that and drugging their secual history through courts just to spite some dude. The point is that, when a woman accuse a guy of rape,process after that is disgracefull lto any woman! Are you aware of the process that comes after and through how much does a woman go through to prove that she was raped? Do you know that is NOT a woman at the end who decides if the case will reach the court or not, but the police? Do you know that in any rape case that does reach teh court, a WOMAN is actually on a trial NOT a man? That HER sexual history is drugged and rinsed through the court to prove that she is a slut! Did you know that? So no, any woman in her right mind will NOT accuse a man just like that of such thing. And those few who do, will soon back off. >Did you know that over 45% of men > are abused in some way by their wives? (They don't report it because of > embarassment). 45%? No. Unless you consider yelling at them as "abuse" :) Perhaps 5% of men get abusedphysically by woman. Women are physically NOT stronger then men, so most of women can be easily restrained by any guy. Most women who dare hit a guy, will also soon realise that his hitting her hurts much more and will never do it again(while he will continue). So no, men dont have it THAT bad! > Did you know that when a couple are in process of getting > a divorce, all a woman has to do is say that he raised his voice to her, > and he gets put in jail without even an investigation to back up her > allegations? Not a chance. Yelling and arguing are not matters of police unless in a public place and causing disturbance, or unless they escalate to physical violence. > Did you know that once he is put in jail, he looses all > rights to his children until he can prove that he loves them and is a > good father? Naah. Its not that simple. Unless couple is already divoced perhaps? But then, most divorces are caused by men, so what can I say, they should;ve thought about consequences of their actions prior to making womans life so miserable or cheating, that she wants a divorce. > Did you know that even though he pays child support, he > still can't see his children? Aah,dont get me started on child support! Now there is a topic I can talk about for 6 months straight! But in short: if you consider few pounds a month which can barely buy a child 1 pair of shoes a "child support" then guess again! Unless he really HELPS and PROPERLY helps raise HIS child, with an amount of money that can provide with perhaps some food AND clothes for a kid, and pay some house bills cos funnily enough, kids cost money, then NO they have NO rights to children! Any decent guy I know gives MUCH more then what court has ordered him to pay, cos he realises his kid cost more then ?50 a month,a nd he WANTSthe best for him/her! They also WANT to spend more then 1 day a month WITH their kids. Saying that,most guys DO NOT wanna pay child support, even that miserable amount, and my friends ex managed to escape paying it for16 years!!!!!! That's how cr#p the British Child support system is! At the end, SHE went to find him ,SHE got CSA people to finally "catch" him and charge him, but all he needed to say is that he doesn;t have money, and now he is still only paying miserable ?50 a month! PEH -LEASE !" If a man doesnt consider his child worth more then ?50 he doesnt deserve to see it. > DON'T tell me that women have it so rough. Im sorry, were you born yesterday? Cos it seems you have missed out on 20centuries on women being treated like slaves, not having a right to leave the house without man'spermission, having to marry a man her father tells her too, being "sold" to another families for any purpose "father" deems plausible, women not being allowed to vote, getting paid half of the amounts for the same jobs as men(still do), having to do all the work in the house alone(most still do) look after the kids alone(most still do) and totop it all, getting beaten up on daily bases cos"that's OK"! If you really think women have it good, I strongly suggest you go to Iran and see how women live there TODAY! > I am a > woman, and I know what men have had to go through just to try to see the > children that they have had torn away from them. Fine, in some coutries, courts does award full custody tomums,and with a good reason. But yes, if a man proves himself to be a good father, and can provide more and look after kids more, I dont see why he should be kept away for good. But if he has angereda woman so much that he wontlet him see hiskids, then all I can say is, guys, dontangeryour women this much! Hell knows no fury like a woman scorned. So work on making your ex missus happier, if you want to see your kids in the future, instead of rubbing the new 20 yr old secretary into her face. I know where MY priorities would lie. > I have been to their > conselling sessions, and to their mediation sessions. Women are BITCHES > when it comes to divorce, because they don't want to loose. I dont think thats why. Women are NOT by nature competitive like men, and have the interestst of their kids at heart.Rarely any woman doesnt love her child. Women will be bitches only if they are feeling hurt and angry at someothing "her" man has done to her or a child. So work on that. Listen to her as well as him! Most women jsut want more child support and more support! And NOT a 20 yr old secretary in their face. > They want it all!!! No.They want what they deserve, and need to continue looking after their mutual child properly. Men generally DONT want to give a woman who has slaved for him in the house for years, who has beared and looked after his children, who has worked hard on improving their property - well , they dont wanna give her NOTHING. So not , its not that women want it all, its that men wont give nothing! So if they are gonna have this attitude after yearsawoman has put into the marriege, then yes he will anger her enough that she will want more then she really needs. Go Ivana! >They are NOT thinking about what is best for their children, > because they don't care, as long as they can win over their husbands. Complete nonsence. So not true.As I already explained, a woman will only act like this IF a man starts it and stabornly continues to degrade a woman in court! > By the way, did you also know, that when a woman finally gets custody of > the children, that the grandparents on the fathers side don't get to see > them anymore either? Is that fair to the children? I THINK NOT!!!!! If that is true, then I agree its not fair, and I don't think any reasonable will allow this to happen. >>>But like you said, it is a different subject, but IMHO, you might be > [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > public place and causing disturbance, or unless they escalate to physical > violence. I'm not talking about the yelling and arguing before they file for divorce. I am talking about at custody hearings, as well as in court proceedings during the divorce process. In a lot of cases, a lawyer will tell the women to make false accusations against her husband so that they are guarenteed to get custody of the children. >>Did you know that once he is put in jail, he looses all >>rights to his children until he can prove that he loves them and is a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > thought about consequences of their actions prior to making womans life so > miserable or cheating, that she wants a divorce. It takes two to make and to break a marriage. It isn't just the male species that is at fault every time some couple gets a divorce. Maybe that is what happened to you, and that is why you are so angry. I know of several cases of false allegations against the fathers, and yes, I have heard the women talking to other family members admitting to them that they just say those things so that they will get custody of the children. >>Did you know that even though he pays child support, he >>still can't see his children? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > month! PEH -LEASE !" If a man doesnt consider his child worth more then £50 > he doesnt deserve to see it. In Canada the child support system is based on what a man earns annually. Some pay more, some pay less. Sure no matter where you go, there are going to be men who try to get away without paying their support. For those, I agree, no money, no kids, but, for those who are paying their support, they should be able to see their children. >>DON'T tell me that women have it so rough. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > women have it good, I strongly suggest you go to Iran and see how women live > there TODAY! Actually, I was born in the 50's. How about you? I have seen the way women are treated in Iran, as well as how they live. I sympathize with them. Don't forget.....in their country they are more inclined to live by their religion, which states that the man is the head of the household, and what he says goes. Being the religious people that they are, these women accept those terms. If they don't accept them, then they face the possibility of being condemned to hell. It always has been and always will be their choice to accept or not to accept. >>I am a >>woman, and I know what men have had to go through just to try to see the [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > her as well as him! Most women jsut want more child support and more > support! And NOT a 20 yr old secretary in their face. Just to let you know.....I haven't seen 20 years of age for over 25 years now. >>They want it all!!! > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > If that is true, then I agree its not fair, and I don't think any reasonable > will allow this to happen. The courts are finally realizing that Grandparents can contribute alot to the well being of their grandchildren. However, if you do a google search on a group called G.R.A.N.D. you will see that things are not as peachy keen as they should be. >. In a lot of cases, a lawyer will > tell the women to make false accusations against her husband so that > they are guarenteed to get custody of the children. So, its the law and lawyers.Don;t blame a woman! > >>Did you know that once he is put in jail, he looses all > >>rights to his children until he can prove that he loves them and is a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > It takes two to make and to break a marriage. Actually if you look at the stats, it generaly takes just one - man cheating.Or men not communicating. > It isn't just the male species that is at fault every time some couple gets a divorce. I never said every time. I said MOST of the time. Maybe that is what happened to you, and that is why you are so angry. Angry??????? Are you kiddin me? I'm furious! And no, Im not divorced, see how you tend to make presumptions,. I;'m just furious with the general system where men have all the rights and women has barely any. Imfuriouswith the fact that for thesamejob I get paid less for doing a BETTER job then a guy! Im furious at the last 20centuries women have been taken as slaves. And Im absolutely fuming if ever a guy mentions that famous sentence "you must be on PMS" . How can you be sitting there helping men while watching women going through hell, really really beats me! >I know of several cases of false allegations against the fathers, and yes, I > have heard the women talking to other family members admitting to them > that they just say those things so that they will get custody of the > children. Sure.And men NEVER lie.Or dowhat they need to do to get what THEY want.<sigh> >If a man doesnt consider his child worth more then ?50 > > he doesnt deserve to see it. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > support. For those, I agree, no money, no kids, but, for those who are > paying their support, they should be able to see their children. If they deserve it. And if they pay enough.Yes in UK, child support is based on the father's earnings, but its so easy to falsify the outgoings, so they getto pay least possible. > >>DON'T tell me that women have it so rough. > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Actually, I was born in the 50's. How about you? Let me guess you also cook your husband meals and bring them to him, you do all the housework, look after kids and go to work as well, while he is after the work just lounging in the living room watching football. If you are protecting men you must still believe that this is the way how it should be! I'm sorry, but it doesn;t, men are not your masters, aand you are not their slave. And you are the first woman EVER I spoke with, and in my line of work I meet and speak to helluva lot of women, who had anything positive to say about men, let alone be on their side and protecting them! Not one woman I have EVER met has been happier with her man for more then 6 months tops! > I have seen the way > women are treated in Iran, as well as how they live. I sympathize with > them. Don't forget.....in their country they are more inclined to live > by their religion, which states that the man is the head of the > household, and what he says goes. I'm so sick of various forms of violence and abusehiding behindsome sort of "religion".I read the bible,and nowhere does it say that men can treat women less then their equals! > Being the religious people that they > are, these women accept those terms. If they don't accept them, then > they face the possibility of being condemned to hell. It always has been > and always will be their choice to accept or not to accept. I'm sorry, you call that CHOICE? Are you kiddin me? So , let mesee if I had a choice of being a slave to a guy or possibly killed, gee, I wonder what I would choose! There is no choice for those women Jacquie! They HAVE no choice! THey HAVE to do what they are told or else! And their else is not just a slap on wrist! <sigh> >>> Most women jsut want more child support and more > > support! And NOT a 20 yr old secretary in their face. > > Just to let you know.....I haven't seen 20 years of age for over 25 > years now. You wouldn;t. Those wifes would. Im sorry Jacquie, Im just still completely shocked that a woman protects men to this extent. In fact I told all my girls about it today and they couldn;t believe you either! >>. In a lot of cases, a lawyer will >>tell the women to make false accusations against her husband so that [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] > about men, let alone be on their side and protecting them! Not one woman I > have EVER met has been happier with her man for more then 6 months tops! Truth be told, my husband actually pays me to do the cooking, cleaning, laundry, etc. Not only does he pay me, then he turns around and does a lot of it himself. I am not a stay at home wife, I do work outside of the home as well. I don't have any children, not that we didn't want any. Unfortunately I was diagnosed with ovarian, uteran, cervical cancer at a time before I met my husband. Although he really wanted to have children and knew that I couldn't give him any, he married me anyways. That is called love folks. Something that I think is lacking in a lot of marriages today. >>I have seen the way >>women are treated in Iran, as well as how they live. I sympathize with [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > to this extent. In fact I told all my girls about it today and they couldn;t > believe you either! >Let me guess you also cook your husband meals and bring them to him, you do >all the housework, look after kids and go to work as well, while he is after [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >about men, let alone be on their side and protecting them! Not one woman I >have EVER met has been happier with her man for more then 6 months tops! She's the first woman you've ever heard of who had anything positive to say about men? Well, now you've heard of another one. Every failed marriage isn't automatically the man's fault, and women are equally capable of lying, using children as pawns in bitter divorces, and worse. All men aren't scumbags, and all women don't have ethics beyond reproach. You can't tar the entire gender with the same brush. There are a lot of good, decent men, and some not. And yeah, I was born in the 50's. I have dinner ready every day, and I do all the housework. I don't work because I don't want to, and have been on a pedestal for 32 years. I rather enjoy the view from here. Sherry >>Let me guess you also cook your husband meals and bring them to him, you do >>all the housework, look after kids and go to work as well, while he is after [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > for 32 years. I rather enjoy the view from here. > Sherry Good for you Sherry!!!!! I too enjoy doing the above mentioned things for my husband. I have found that when he is happy, he goes out of his way to make sure that I am happy. It is amazing what a person can accomplish when they are not just thinking about themselves and what's in it for them all of the time. I too like the view from upon my pedestal. I don't have to work outside of our home, I choose to. It gives me an added sense of accomplishment. Then again, I always was an over-achiever. LOL > I too enjoy doing the above mentioned things > for my husband. I have found that when he is happy, he goes out of his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > gives me an added sense of accomplishment. Then again, I always was an > over-achiever. LOL Well no wonderyou have no problems, cos you guys clearly have 50/50 marriage, where he works outside and you work inside the house. Thats fair.Butwhat would happen if you were working as well? My issue was the ridiculous expectations men have when BOTH parties go to work outside the house, then when back home,he sleeps and SHE has to do all the housework and deal with kids. Most men still have this Neanderthal opinion and simply say "its a woman's job" and refuse to help. >>I too enjoy doing the above mentioned things >>for my husband. I have found that when he is happy, he goes out of his [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > marriage, where he works outside and you work inside the house. Thats > fair.Butwhat would happen if you were working as well? Reread my post. I work 40 - 60 hours per week outside of the home. I then put in at least another 20 hours per week doing volunteer work. My home is spotless, and, my husband is happily taken care of. Like I said before, I don't have to work outside of the home, I choose to. My husband supports me 100%. He also pays me on a weekly basis, because I do the housework. I have told him time and time again, that he doesn't have to pay me for it, he chooses to do so all on his own. I have never had it so good. Then again, neither has he. > My issue was the ridiculous expectations men have when BOTH parties go to > work outside the house, then when back home,he sleeps and SHE has to do all > the housework and deal with kids. Most men still have this Neanderthal > opinion and simply say "its a woman's job" and refuse to help. My > husband supports me 100%. He also pays me on a weekly basis, because I > do the housework. I have told him time and time again, that he doesn't > have to pay me for it, he chooses to do so all on his own. I have never > had it so good. Then again, neither has he. Good for you both. Shame most men don't appreciate women and housework the way your husband does. Maybe if they did, it would give women more incentive to do more for him! You clearly have enough incentive. Well I guess you were lucky to find a good man.Keep him tight , not may good men around. > >Let me guess you also cook your husband meals and bring them to him, you do > >all the housework, look after kids and go to work as well, while he is after [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > housework. I don't work because I don't want to, and have been on a pedestal > for 32 years. I rather enjoy the view from here. Just to add my 2 cents to this thread: I work 40-60 hours a week because I love being financially independent, I love my work, and I like the added choices extra money gives us. However: I love to cook for and care for my husband, who is one of the good guys. I can't do everything I want to because there isn't time--but if I could, I would pamper him more than I do. Why? Not because I was raised to do this. I was born in the late 1960s, and had a mother who worked. I love to do things for him because he loves me and has proven over and over again that he is my best friend and someone I can trust no matter what. We share the housework, but I run the house, pay the bills, do the grocery shopping and cooking, make sure he has nice clothes and the things he wants. (He just hands over his check to me and I manage the money.) If hard times come and anyone does without, it will be me--and he won't ever know about it, either. Because I'm a martyr? Hell no. Because I love him and that's the way I love. Incidentally, he doesn't take crap from me either--though I find I rarely feel like giving him any, anyway. Have I known some selfish dirtbags? You bet. I just made damn sure I didn't marry them. Women need to take responsibility for the repercussions of the choices they make, too. Use your heads for more than a hatrack and don't allow what you're sitting on to unduly influence your important decisions--like who you marry. >Just to add my 2 cents to this thread: I work 40-60 hours a week because >I love being financially independent, I love my work, and I like the added [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >more than a hatrack and don't allow what you're sitting on to unduly >influence your important decisions--like who you marry. I used to work 40-60 hours a week until 2 years ago, and was pretty much the same as you. Now I have all this time, which is precious to me because I never had it before, and I've chosen to be rather a Stepford Wife, and I've found it suits me and I like it. I've learned to can our own food, cook everything from scratch, to sew, do needlework, organic gardening and keeping a rose garden. DH got into beekeeping. My next project is to soap-making using the byproduct beeswax. Unfortunately, I've turned into a bit of a recluse in the process. Oh well. Keeping on topic, the cats are wonderful companions, and I've learned I enjoy their company as much as any human company. I used to joke at work that my goal in life was to be one of those crazy old ladies who wears a muu muu and stands out in the yard watering flowers, with a dozen cats at her feet. All I lack now is the muu muu and eight cats. Sherry > I used to work 40-60 hours a week until 2 years ago, and was pretty much the > same as you. Now I have all this time, which is precious to me because I never > had it before, and I've chosen to be rather a Stepford Wife, and I've found it > suits me and I like it. Nah, you're not that obediant--or shallow! But I know what you mean. >I've learned to can our own food, cook everything from > scratch, to sew, do needlework, organic gardening and keeping a rose garden. This is very cool. I like cooking from scratch just because then you know what is in the food. > DH got into beekeeping. My next project is to soap-making using the byproduct > beeswax. Here in NC we are having a shortage of bees and some facet of the government is doing some sort of incentives to people to raise bees. I love the idea of using beeswax for candles. And who doesn't like honey? >Unfortunately, I've turned into a bit of a recluse in the process. Oh > well. Keeping on topic, the cats are wonderful companions, and I've learned I > enjoy their company as much as any human company. Life is all about different phases, you know? I had my wildly social time-- and it was as exciting as it was supposed to be for a 20-some-year-old. I've moved on. >I used to joke at work that > my goal in life was to be one of those crazy old ladies who wears a muu muu and > stands out in the yard watering flowers, with a dozen cats at her feet. All I > lack now is the muu muu and eight cats. For those of us who worked hard most of our lives just to survive, arriving at a more peaceful and leisurely time is the greatest treasure. Although, I have old friends who are now into the Big Boozy Business scene and the whoever-dies with-the-most-money-and- best-plastic-surgery wins crowd. They make me feel good about my life, but sad for them. On the other hand, my friends who are Moms have lives I think of with great admiration. "Sherry " <sriddles@aol.comkitty> wrote in message > Every failed marriage isn't > automatically the man's fault, and women are equally capable of lying, using > children as pawns in bitter divorces, and worse. All men aren't scumbags, and > all women don't have ethics beyond reproach. You can't tar the entire gender > with the same brush. I didint. I used the word most, and not all. And yes women can be well nasty if they really want to, but I dont think that most will be, unless pushed to the corner or walked over forlong enough.But then God help those on receiving end :) Hell knows no fury like woman scorned. > There are a lot of good, decent men, and some not. IMHO, there is a lot of Neanderthals around and only a few mature men. But that is only mine, and opinion of ALL the women I have ever spoken to.Untill you guys here :) >And yeah, I was born in the 50's. I have dinner ready every day, and I do all the > housework. I don't work because I don't want to, and have been on a pedestal > for 32 years. I rather enjoy the view from here. > Sherry Aah! You don;t work! Its completely different if you don;t have a day job.My main complaint was about women who DO work as well as their men.If you dont have a job, then I have no problem with woman doing all the housework, cos hubby will have a job and bring the money in. That way its still 50/50%. I wouldn;t expect him to do much around the house. But if we both work, then we WILL both work at home too, 50/50 all the way. However most men like I said before will go to work just like women, yet expect to come home and lie down while woman does all the housework/kids too! That is NOT acceptable. > The point is that, when a woman accuse a guy of > rape,process after that is disgracefull lto any woman! Are you aware of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the > court to prove that she is a slut! Not in England and Wales, it's not. The police don't decide (the CPS does, as with every crime). The woman's sexual history is almost never admissible in evidence. Amanda "Amanda Jones" <avjones@cix.co.uk> wrote in message Do you know that in any rape case that does reach teh court, a WOMAN is actually on > > a trial NOT a man? That HER sexual history is drugged and rinsed through > > the court to prove that she is a slut! > > Not in England and Wales, it's not. The police don't decide (the CPS does, > as with every crime). Tomato,tomato. Who are they to decide if a woman was rapedor not! My friend was raped by 2men , but becuase she was UI, her case didnt even reach the court! It did her a world of good! NOT! > The woman's sexual history is almost never admissible in evidence. Not what I've heard, unless its some new law? So if this is not possible, how are they these days trying to discredit a woman?Cos they will do their best to discredit a woman! > Amanda > > Not in England and Wales, it's not. The police don't decide (the CPS > > does, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the > court! It did her a world of good! NOT! In the case of *every* criminal offence, the prosecutor (I prosecute more than I defend) is under two duties. He must consider whether the case is more than 50% likely to result in a conviction, and drop it if it is not. He must also consider whether the case is in the public interest to prosecute, and drop if it is not. I don't know what you mean by "UI", could you explain? > > The woman's sexual history is almost never admissible in evidence. > > Not what I've heard, unless its some new law? Not that new, I think it came into force about 3-4 years ago, can't recall off-hand. > So if this is not possible, how are they these days trying to discredit > a > woman?Cos they will do their best to discredit a woman! I have also acted for a man accused of rape; men are wrongly accused. It happens. As well as women who are genuinely raped by men, there are also women who falsely accuse men of rape. Amanda > > > Not in England and Wales, it's not. The police don't decide (the CPS > > > does, as with every crime). > > > > Tomato,tomato. Who are they to decide if a woman was rapedor not! My > > friend was raped by 2men , but becuase she was UI, her case didnt even reach > > the court! It did her a world of good! NOT! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > He must also consider whether the case is in the public interest to > prosecute, and drop if it is not. I aprpeciatte this,but since its not the police nor the prosecutors that were raped, they shouldnt be the ones to make the decision, but the woman who WAS raped. No wonder such high procentige of all rapes goes unreported,and so many rapists continue to do what they wanna do. BTW, what does that mean exactly, in the public interest? What does public have to do with a personal rape of a personal person? > I don't know what you mean by "UI", could you explain? "Under Influence" / tipsy/ slightly pissed :) > > > The woman's sexual history is almost never admissible in evidence. > > > > Not what I've heard, unless its some new law? > > > Not that new, I think it came into force about 3-4 years ago, can't recall > off-hand. Aah, I thought so. My friend was raped late 90's. > > So if this is not possible, how are they these days trying to discredit > > a woman?Cos they will do their best to discredit a woman! > > I have also acted for a man accused of rape; men are wrongly accused. It > happens. As well as women who are genuinely raped by men, there are also > women who falsely accuse men of rape. I have no doubts.But certanly not many, probably even less then 1% of all rapes reported. > Amanda > I aprpeciatte this,but since its not the police nor the prosecutors that > were raped, they shouldnt be the ones to make the decision, but the woman [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > BTW, what does that mean exactly, in the public interest? What does public > have to do with a personal rape of a personal person? As in it might be in the public interest to get a rapist off the street, regardless of whether a particular victim wants to prosecute. > > In the case of *every* criminal offence, the prosecutor (I prosecute > > more [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > who WAS raped. No wonder such high procentige of all rapes goes > unreported,and so many rapists continue to do what they wanna do. The criminal justice system in England & Wales works (in all crimes) not on an individual level. The crime is against the state, for (in this case) committing a violent sexual offence against a person under the Queen's peace. That's why criminal prosecutions for serious offences, such as rape, are Regina versus X. It would be both unjust, and also unfair on the alleged victim, to proceed in a case where there isn't a realistic prospect of a conviction. > BTW, what does that mean exactly, in the public interest? What does > public > have to do with a personal rape of a personal person? It's a test applied in all cases. It probably wouldn't be in the public interest (these are examples) to prosecute someone who is about to die, who has just been imprisoned for another offence on a "whole life" tariff, who committed an offence for a good reason, etc. If someone is speeding to get to hospital in time to see a relative who is about to die, it's probably not in the public interest to prosecute him for speeding. These are the types of considerations applied when considering whether something is in the public interest or not. > I have no doubts.But certanly not many, probably even less then 1% of > all > rapes reported. I think that's impossible to say. There are a real number of false rape allegations, though, I've seen some. Amanda > Men > still expect dinner on the table when they (as well as the wife) come > home > and their shirts ironed, and still avoid looking after the kids as > much as > possible Blimey, don't fancy the men you know! I've never ironed anything in my entire life - my boyfriend does all the ironing in this flat! Amanda "Amanda Jones" <avjones@cix.co.uk> wrote in message > I've never ironed anything in my entire life - my boyfriend does all the > ironing in this flat! > > Amanda You are lucky! Keep him!Not many men like him around trust me! :) > "Amanda Jones" <avjones@cix.co.uk> wrote in message > > > I've never ironed anything in my entire life - my boyfriend does all > > the > > ironing in this flat! > You are lucky! Keep him!Not many men like him around trust me! :) He's extremely lucky too! But I think you are rather unlucky in the men you know - I don't know any "neanderthal" men among my friends, and none of my girlfriends would come home from work and do all the domestic stuff for their partners either. I have a 19 year old brother who cooks, cleans, and sews his own buttons on too - carefully trained by his mother and his three older sisters (-: Amanda > > "Amanda Jones" <avjones@cix.co.uk> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > He's extremely lucky too! Men are ALWAYS lucky to get ANY woman on their side putting up with their immaturity he he :) > But I think you are rather unlucky in the men you know - I don't know any > "neanderthal" men among my friends, and none of my girlfriends would come [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Amanda Wow! I am impressed! Good for his future missus! :) > > But I think you are rather unlucky in the men you know - I don't know > > any [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > buttons on > > too - carefully trained by his mother and his three older sisters (-: > Wow! I am impressed! Good for his future missus! :) He's OK - in a "he's my baby brother" way (-: Amanda > Well I have called every shelter in town, went by the house, they claim she is not theres but she acted like she knew right were she was. I have made an appointment at the vets to have her checked, shots, spay if needed etc. She already has a name silly me did not look on the back of her bell. Her name is Isabella. I think it suits her. I have posted a legal ad in paper stating that I have her and will give the owner 30 days to claim her if after 30 days she is not claimed she is ours. Very wise decission Holly. Does she respond to Isabella? If so, then by all means let her keep her name. It will be less stressful on her in the long run. I hope that you get to keep her, and that she will feel the love and companionship that I know you will give her. I am also hoping that some small child isn't missing her just because their parents no longer want the responsibility of keeping a cat. Good luck. By the way.....How are Pheonix and Sasha responding to her? >> Well I have called every shelter in town, went by the house, they >> claim she is not theres but she acted like she knew right were she [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Good luck. > By the way.....How are Pheonix and Sasha responding to her? Sorry for the double post. My computer is starting to act up, and it accidentally sent a second post that I had written. Computers.......as tempermental as cats. Go figure. LOL I have been casous about letting them interact alone untill I have her checked out at the vet, I have no reason to think that she is not healthy though. She wanted to play a little rough with Pheniox (who just had surgery) so there was a small spat but I think they have pretty much determined the pecking order. Sasha the baby is head cat, Pheniox is laid back, demands what she wants, does what she wants (everyone seems fine with that) she let Isabella know what she could play with and what she could not. Isabella has taken up the submissive role. The way she acts you would think she has lived there all of her life. If she is not claimed we are going to definatley keep her. She goes to vet on Thursday for a good checking untill then when we are not home she stays in the living room and the others get the rest of the house. Oh and yes she comes running when you call for Isabella. >I have been casous about letting them interact alone untill I have her checked out at the vet, I have no reason to think that she is not healthy though. One thing I always do is isolate any new cat that comes in the house until after the vet checks them out. I have other cats in the house, I can't afford for them to get sick from a new cat. >One thing I always do is isolate any new cat that comes in the house >until after the vet checks them out. > >I have other cats in the house, I can't afford for them to get sick >from a new cat. Right. It is absolutely imperative to quarantine a new cat. Cats can look perfectly healthy and be FELV positive, be carrying herpes, ringworm, parasites, or a host of other things. Sherry "Sherry " wrote... > >One thing I always do is isolate any new cat that comes in the house > >until after the vet checks them out. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > parasites, or a host of other things. > Sherry Definately right about that. My sister got a shelter-cat a few months ago, and the darn thing had ringworm. The cat is half persian, half himalayan (in other words, huge cat, LOTS of fur!!) and a week after she got him, he was bald on his head. She got the ringworm diagnosed, and started treatment.....but then the cat spread the ringworm to HER!!!! She spent a month trying to rid the cat AND herself from the ringworm. (Luckily, her roommate's cat didn't get it.) So yes, quarantine the new cat for a while, but also, with things like ringworm, check *yourself* to make sure you're not carrying it and transporting it to another cat in your house. ---Julia The ring worm was the first thing that I looked for because I had gone throught that with Sasha and it was a nightmare to get rid of. She goes to the vet tommorrow so I am purring for a good report. I even went as far as to leave a copy of the newspaper containing the legal ad on there doorstep. I have been checking the litter box behind Isabella and all that is normal. She eats well, drinks well, and of course demands scritches well. She goes to vet at 730 tommorrow morning so I will give all an update when we get back. My hubby has already become very attached to her, his kitten Sasha is still very hyper and runns around alot but Isabella will just plop in his lap and stay there for hours and he loves it. | The ring worm was the first thing that I looked for because I had gone throught that with Sasha and it was a nightmare to get rid of. She goes to the vet tommorrow so I am purring for a good report. I even went as far as to leave a copy of the newspaper containing the legal ad on there doorstep. I have been checking the litter box behind Isabella and all that is normal. She eats well, drinks well, and of course demands scritches well. She goes to vet at 730 tommorrow morning so I will give all an update when we get back. My hubby has already become very attached to her, his kitten Sasha is still very hyper and runns around alot but Isabella will just plop in his lap and stay there for hours and he loves it. I believe by the end of this week you may claim the cat as yours, you've done all that was needed. Lucky Isabella, lucky you! Carola > I have been casous about letting them interact alone untill I have her checked out at the vet, I have no reason to think that she is not healthy though. She wanted to play a little rough with Pheniox (who just had surgery) so there was a small spat but I think they have pretty much determined the pecking order. Sasha the baby is head cat, Pheniox is laid back, demands what she wants, does what she wants (everyone seems fine with that) she let Isabella know what she could play with and what she could not. Isabella has taken up the submissive role. The way she acts you would think she has lived there all of her life. If she is not claimed we are going to definatley keep her. She goes to vet on Thursday for a good checking untill then when we are not home she stays in the living room and the others get the rest of the house. Oh and yes she comes running when you call for Isabella. I'm so glad she's gotthe good home now. But just in case did you call that numberagain? In case it was a kid answering? My friends kids regularly pick up the phones and then put the phone down without calling their parents :) Also you may need to ask the vet if anything was reported there. And to scan her for microchip. Its best to know for sure before you get emotionally attached to Isabella(lovely name) very Italian - Bella means beautiful :) | Sorry for the double post. My computer is starting to act up, and it | accidentally sent a second post that I had written. Computers.......as | tempermental as cats. Go figure. LOL Sometimes I *definitely* send a message once and it still appears twice ... It's no good when the pooters start to think and act by themselves! Carola |
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