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Mike Z. Helm - 04 Jan 2005 00:39 GMT
What's the fascination with knocking stuff over or onto the floor?

Cat's latest favorite object to knock over is the soap dispenser into
the bathroom sink.

But ANYTHING smaller than a 600 page book apparently belongs on the
floor - or in the sink, and I suspect the 600 page book belongs there
too if only it wasn't so heavy
Gary Stone - 04 Jan 2005 01:52 GMT
Obviously they have some basic understanding of the laws of physics.

Stone

> What's the fascination with knocking stuff over or onto the floor?
>
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> floor - or in the sink, and I suspect the 600 page book belongs there
> too if only it wasn't so heavy
Mike Z. Helm - 04 Jan 2005 08:29 GMT
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:52:27 -0500, "Gary Stone" <stoneman72@yahoo.net>

>Obviously they have some basic understanding of the laws of physics.

Yeah, but didn't Isaac Newton only have to get hit in the head with an
apple once before he figured it out?

>Stone
>
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>> floor - or in the sink, and I suspect the 600 page book belongs there
>> too if only it wasn't so heavy
Dik F. Liu - 16 Jan 2005 20:14 GMT
>Obviously they have some basic understanding of the laws of physics.<

Cats are smarter than that. They are trying repeatedly to disprove Newton.
Gary Stone - 16 Jan 2005 21:08 GMT
>>Obviously they have some basic understanding of the laws of physics.<
>
> Cats are smarter than that. They are trying repeatedly to disprove Newton.

I guess I got lucky. I've had my two for about ? a year now and they are 1?
and 3? yrs old. They get up on shelves and such but never knock anything
over. It amazes me how agile they can be as they slink around, under and
over things. Are they young kittens or older? If younger, perhaps they will
get better at navigating their way around stuff.

Stone
Ashley - 17 Jan 2005 09:48 GMT
>>>Obviously they have some basic understanding of the laws of physics.<
>>
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> I guess I got lucky. I've had my two for about ? a year now and they are
> 1? and 3? yrs old.

OK, how did you do those 1/2s?
Gary Stone - 17 Jan 2005 11:34 GMT
>>>>Obviously they have some basic understanding of the laws of physics.<
>>>
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>
> OK, how did you do those 1/2s?

It's pretty simple if you don't mind a few extra key strokes. As you hold
down the "Alt" key type in 0189 and whala! ? apears. Type in ? would be
"Hold the Alt key and type in 0188, Alt 0190 is ?. if you click on Start
(windows XP) then click on all programs, accessories, system tools and then
Charecter Map, you can get the code for all sorts of characters. Just click
on the character or symbol you want and the code for it is displayed in the
lower right corner. I know the keyboard and type fairly well so it doesn't
bother me to stroke em out.

Stone
Hubbabubbr - 19 Jan 2005 01:59 GMT
Nah, they're just concerned about our health. They've heard about all the
benefits of exercise, and they figure we need a little help.
Lloyd - 04 Jan 2005 03:31 GMT
> Cat's latest favorite object to knock over is the soap dispenser into
> the bathroom sink.
>
> But ANYTHING smaller than a 600 page book apparently belongs on the
> floor - or in the sink, and I suspect the 600 page book belongs there
> too if only it wasn't so heavy

Mine just knocked 3 African violets off the table onto the heat vent, dirt
all down in the louvers, so fun!
Better than a barking stinky dog though.
Mike Z. Helm - 04 Jan 2005 08:44 GMT
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 03:31:56 GMT, "Lloyd" <z@z.net>

>> Cat's latest favorite object to knock over is the soap dispenser into
>> the bathroom sink.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Mine just knocked 3 African violets off the table onto the heat vent, dirt
>all down in the louvers, so fun!

That blows - I'm still trying to save my plants.

>Better than a barking stinky dog though.

You're just prejudiced.  Seriously, a year ago I would've been the same
way.  In fact, the only reason I didn't have a dog is my %&*&# apt.
complex has this complex against them and they're not allowed.  

So anyway, I took this kitten in because I was sure it would die out in
the sweltering heat - it had already been shot with a pellet gun and it
was a balmy 110 degrees outside.

And she does all that cat crap that I knew I would hate, but she's also
very cool, and of course I love her very much.  I visited my folks for
xmas, and I actually called their chihuahua "kitty" a couple of times.
Poor Chihuahua, it amazes me that she's lived as long as she has, but
she never ceases to show her love in a dog-like way, just as kitty does
in her own cat-like way.

I do know one thing though - I wouldn't count on a cat to be of any use
in a time of danger.  Friggin' cat would run and hide while any dog will
defend your life as if it was its own.  Not that I expect my life to
depend upon a cat or even a dog anytime soon, but the fierce loyalty is
certainly touching.

Of course cats and dogs are very different animals, but one thing that
has struck me since being adopted by this cat is how similar they are.
They both know how to love, although they may express it in different
ways.

Personally, I find it very cool when a dog will come when you call it.
But kitty does that about 20% of the time.  I guess that's pretty good
for a cat.
Lloyd - 04 Jan 2005 18:56 GMT
> You're just prejudiced.  Seriously, a year ago I would've been the same
> way.  In fact, the only reason I didn't have a dog is my %&*&# apt.
> complex has this complex against them and they're not allowed.

The reason I don't like dogs is cuz they bark non stop and crap in my yard
daily, I guess it's the owners that I don't like, but they all do it around
here so I assume most dog owners are irresponsible.....around here I am
right, and it's no slum.
leo@1starnet.com - 05 Jan 2005 21:51 GMT
I have really enjoyed reading this thread! I think all cats are alike
but each one is UNIQUE!! heheheheh!
Little boy, Lucky, walkes up my body at 4 in the a.m and at about 8
months weighs about 17 lbs or more and i think his feet are pointed
rather than padded! tries to suckle my arms which is very irritating,
and when foiled, will flop very heavily down beside me for a belly
rub.Ms Kitty comes in and walkes up to me from the otherside expecting
her head to be rubbed and expects me to lay the weight of my right arm
over her brow and rotate it for a while before she will stretch out and
go to sleep. One thing nice is that they don't have an unpleasant odor
as many dogs do. They are very clean.
Little Boy likes to lay down by the water bowl, dip one paw into the
water and drink off his paw. He never stands up, too my knowledge, to
drink unless he is drinking out of a flower dish that is unreachable
from the floor. I have several spider plants with long hanging babies
and he loves to pull off some of the leaves and eat them. Usually both
cats get grass from outside on our daily walks, but he likes certain
plants as well.

I, at times want to kill the little BAS----, especially when I found i
can no longer do jigsaw puzzles which i like to do in the winter when I
can't garden. He thinks the pieces need to be taken apart and eaten!
After having to re-work huge sections several times, I just finally
gave up, swept the pieces into their box and stored them. He can't live
more than 20 some odd years more and  then I can have my puzzels. I am
only 76, so i am keeping them in the closet until he dies. <G>
lee/leo
jacquie0 - 04 Jan 2005 05:18 GMT
> What's the fascination with knocking stuff over or onto the floor?
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> floor - or in the sink, and I suspect the 600 page book belongs there
> too if only it wasn't so heavy

Welcome to the game of "I knock it off, you pick it up so I can knock it
off again". I really don't know why they do this, but, I don't think
that there is a cat out there that hasn't played this game at one point
or another. Like we keep saying on here, "You don't own your cat, your
cat owns you".
M.C. Mullen - 04 Jan 2005 06:46 GMT
| > What's the fascination with knocking stuff over or onto the floor?
| >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
| or another. Like we keep saying on here, "You don't own your cat, your
| cat owns you".

I have bought myself a lovely stuffed cat that sits nicely in the corner -
it has to be knocked down at least once a day!
I have replaced the flower pots with cacti and made little effort with the
Christmas decoration this year ...
Maybe your cat thinks that there's too much stuff around in your place?
About the 600 page book: it could have to do with who wrote it that the cat
leaves it alone?

Carola
Mike Z. Helm - 04 Jan 2005 08:48 GMT
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 00:11:34 -0800, jacquie0 <jacquie0>

>> What's the fascination with knocking stuff over or onto the floor?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>or another. Like we keep saying on here, "You don't own your cat, your
>cat owns you".

Yeah, that's what she thinks...I can still shut her out of the rooms
where she gets into *real* trouble when I'm gone.  I will not tolerate
plant-icide.  Right now, they're all huddled up for safety on the
kitchen counter, but she keeps sneaking up there.  She knows that's not
right, and I know she'll jump up there whenever I'm not looking.  I can
always put chicken-wire around the whole thing if nothing else works.
Michael M. - 04 Jan 2005 18:08 GMT
> What's the fascination with knocking stuff over or onto the floor?
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> floor - or in the sink, and I suspect the 600 page book belongs there
> too if only it wasn't so heavy

I used to keep a bunch of paperbacks stacked on my dresser.  Eventually,
I got tired of picking them up off the floor every morning.  My cat would
knock them off one at a time, then run to the edge of the dresser and peer
at me lying in bed to see if that one woke me up.

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 under conditions of absolute reality;..." --S. Jackson

jacquie0 - 04 Jan 2005 18:44 GMT
>>What's the fascination with knocking stuff over or onto the floor?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> knock them off one at a time, then run to the edge of the dresser and peer
> at me lying in bed to see if that one woke me up.

It's could be your cats way of getting attention from you. I know when
my big guy wants me to get up out of bed, he stalks up along side of me,
and then he very gently nips the tip of my nose, while putting his paw
on my mouth. If that doesn't work, he will lay down on my head with his
butt right in my face.
Knocking things off of the dresser, counters etc, could be your cat
telling you that he/she wants to play or that he/she wants attention, NOW!
KiaSidhe - 04 Jan 2005 18:43 GMT
<jacquie0> wrote .....

> It's could be your cats way of getting attention from you. I know when
> my big guy wants me to get up out of bed, he stalks up along side of me,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Knocking things off of the dresser, counters etc, could be your cat
> telling you that he/she wants to play or that he/she wants attention, NOW!

wow.  sounds like this house.  except that our kittles also likes to get
*right* up in our faces and MEOW!!!!!  MEOW!!!!!  she can get quite
obnoxious.  ;)  often times, she meows like that WHILE she has her rear in
my face.  so i wake up seeing a tail.  ugh.  (and my fiancee has gotten used
to throwing her off the bed while yelling, "damn cat!")  hehehe

Julia
Sniper .308 - 05 Mar 2005 18:50 GMT
><jacquie0> wrote .....
>
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>
>Julia

Ya nothing like waking up to a kitty moon.
M.C. Mullen - 06 Mar 2005 00:20 GMT
| ><jacquie0> wrote .....
| >
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|
| Ya nothing like waking up to a kitty moon.

My first cat did that because I used to feed him when I got up in the
morning.
He pushed the time back from 7 am to 2 am gradually.
I learned my lesson and feed before I go to bed now.
It works well, but sometimes I miss the furry disturbances...

Carola
Sniper .308 - 06 Mar 2005 17:21 GMT
>My first cat did that because I used to feed him when I got up in the
>morning.
>He pushed the time back from 7 am to 2 am gradually.
>I learned my lesson and feed before I go to bed now.
>It works well, but sometimes I miss the furry disturbances...

Mine dose that too.  She gets me up at 6am sharp rain or shine.  She
tried pushing the time back, but I put a water spray bottle next to my
bed and she saw things my way.
Shadow Walker - 06 Mar 2005 20:21 GMT
Oh don't forget when they sit there covering your face. Talk about out of
bed in a hurry. I love my cats just not their butts.
That's the only way mine get me out of bed early, crying, running, knocking
things down and all that just gets them locked out. Rear end gets me away
from them and out of bed. LOL

Shadow Walker

> ><jacquie0> wrote .....
> >
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Ya nothing like waking up to a kitty moon.
Sniper .308 - 05 Mar 2005 18:48 GMT
>I used to keep a bunch of paperbacks stacked on my dresser.  Eventually,
>I got tired of picking them up off the floor every morning.  My cat would
>knock them off one at a time, then run to the edge of the dresser and peer
>at me lying in bed to see if that one woke me up.

Your cat was just making sure you were going to get up for work on
time.

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