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A - 02 Jan 2005 13:36 GMT
SATURDAY, JANUARY 1, 200

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Girls 'stomp kitten
then brag about it

13-year-olds facing cruelty charges for act called 'beyond sick ? it's evil

Two girls from New Jersey are facing animal-cruelty charges after allegedly stomping on a kitten before burying it alive up to its neck

"This is beyond sick ? it's evil," Cumberland County SPCA Agent Beverly Greco told the Bridgeton News. "We have reached a new low.

The 13-year-olds from Laurel Lake, N.J., reportedly acquired two kittens Dec. 5, but were told by their father they couldn't keep the animals

"We received information from the local animal-control officer and the school [they attended] that the girls were bragging about what they had done," Greco said. "The girls, who are stepsisters who live separately, reportedly had taken two 8-month-old kittens who had been offered for adoption by their owner.

"They took the kittens to a nearby wooded area, where one of the kittens escaped. The other one was stomped, had a red tank top tied around its neck, and was buried in the dirt with its head sticking out.

Greco said most of the feline's bones had been broken during the onslaught

"Another person found the dead kitten and removed it from the dirt and reburied it," she told the paper. "We exhumed the kitten and did a necropsy on the body, and determined that it had suffocated from the dirt packed around it after the girls buried it.

The names of the girls were being withheld by authorities because of their age, but each have been charged with three counts of animal cruelty and a disorderly persons offense
jacquie0 - 02 Jan 2005 15:28 GMT
> SATURDAY, JANUARY 1, 2005
>
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>
> The names of the girls were being withheld by authorities because of their age, but each have been charged with three counts of animal cruelty and a disorderly persons offense.

Could you post the actual link to the article? I find this a little hard
to swallow. If the kitten was 8 weeks old I could understand this
happening. An 8 month old kitten is usually big enough and strong enough
 to defend itself in some way. I wonder how badly shredded the girls were?
Justin - 02 Jan 2005 17:22 GMT
>> SATURDAY, JANUARY 1, 2005
>>
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> happening. An 8 month old kitten is usually big enough and strong enough
> to defend itself in some way. I wonder how badly shredded the girls were?

here is one.
http://www.nj.com/news/bridgeton/index.ssf?/base/news-2/1104402012215610.xml

Justin
MaryL - 03 Jan 2005 20:00 GMT
>> SATURDAY, JANUARY 1, 2005
>>
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> happening. An 8 month old kitten is usually big enough and strong enough
> to defend itself in some way. I wonder how badly shredded the girls were?

Even full-grown cats are frequently beaten and brutalized.  It's not hard at
all for me to imagine that an 8 month old kitten would be defenseless
against this type of onslaught.  What is almost incomprehensible to me is
how some people can be so vile and cruel.

MaryL
Hubbabubbr - 19 Jan 2005 01:48 GMT
A weird but unsurprising fact: Nearly all serial killers displayed this kind of
extreme cruelty to animals in childhood. Makes sense, doesn't it? Sadism in
ones so young is chilling.

They need to make killing an animal like this a felony, with a looong sentence.
In a psych hospital.
CHAR WAINSCOTT - 11 Mar 2005 16:31 GMT
Amen and then throw away the key.
KiaSidhe - 02 Jan 2005 17:08 GMT
> SATURDAY, JANUARY 1, 2005
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> 13-year-olds facing cruelty charges for act called 'beyond sick - it's
evil'

> Two girls from New Jersey are facing animal-cruelty charges after allegedly stomping on a kitten before burying it alive up to its neck.
>
> "This is beyond sick - it's evil," Cumberland County SPCA Agent Beverly
Greco told the Bridgeton News. "We have reached a new low."

> The 13-year-olds from Laurel Lake, N.J., reportedly acquired two kittens Dec. 5, but were told by their father they couldn't keep the animals.
>
> "We received information from the local animal-control officer and the school [they attended] that the girls were bragging about what they had
done," Greco said. "The girls, who are stepsisters who live separately,
reportedly had taken two 8-month-old kittens who had been offered for
adoption by their owner."

> "They took the kittens to a nearby wooded area, where one of the kittens escaped. The other one was stomped, had a red tank top tied around its neck,
and was buried in the dirt with its head sticking out."

> Greco said most of the feline's bones had been broken during the onslaught.
>
> "Another person found the dead kitten and removed it from the dirt and reburied it," she told the paper. "We exhumed the kitten and did a necropsy
on the body, and determined that it had suffocated from the dirt packed
around it after the girls buried it."

> The names of the girls were being withheld by authorities because of their age, but each have been charged with three counts of animal cruelty and a
disorderly persons offense.

i'm wondering who taught these girls to behave this way.....  i have a very
hard time believing that step sisters who live apart are both purely
psychotic.  if this really did happen, i doubt they did it without some kind
of previous coaching.

Julia
Luvskats00 - 03 Jan 2005 09:32 GMT
It disgusts me to hear deviant behavior such as this. The fact that the girls
were able to dole out such violence towards the cat shows that there is
something seriously wrong with them that the law can't repair. I hope they are
tried as adults...face jail time (one can hope) and get long-term counselling.
I also hope they are hit by a car.
nimue - 03 Jan 2005 10:43 GMT
> It disgusts me to hear deviant behavior such as this. The fact that
> the girls were able to dole out such violence towards the cat shows
> that there is something seriously wrong with them that the law can't
> repair. I hope they are tried as adults...face jail time (one can
> hope) and get long-term counselling. I also hope they are hit by a
> car.

I know how you feel.

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Sniper .308 - 05 Mar 2005 18:35 GMT
>> It disgusts me to hear deviant behavior such as this. The fact that
>> the girls were able to dole out such violence towards the cat shows
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>I know how you feel.

I would be more than happy to do the exact same thing to both those
sick bitches.
KLR - 03 Jan 2005 13:31 GMT
>It disgusts me to hear deviant behavior such as this. The fact that the girls
>were able to dole out such violence towards the cat shows that there is
>something seriously wrong with them that the law can't repair. I hope they are
>tried as adults...face jail time (one can hope) and get long-term counselling.
>I also hope they are hit by a car.

I believe fully in the old russian proverb "grave is the only cure for
the hunchback" in cases like this   (the 2 slags that is - not the
poor cat)

I doubt very much that this sort can be helped, and its too great a
risk to the public.
Patty Brooks - 03 Jan 2005 19:10 GMT
>It disgusts me to hear deviant behavior such as this. The fact that the girls
>were able to dole out such violence towards the cat shows that there is
>something seriously wrong with them that the law can't repair. I hope they are
>tried as adults...face jail time (one can hope) and get long-term counselling.
>I also hope they are hit by a car.

The WalMart case is going Federal Animal Cruelty.

I think they should recognize pets, domesticated pets, as eligible for
tax refunds etc...
CHAR WAINSCOTT - 11 Mar 2005 16:32 GMT
Maybe not hit by a car, but buried up to their necks in dirt!
nimue - 02 Jan 2005 20:00 GMT
> SATURDAY, JANUARY 1, 2005
>
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> their age, but each have been charged with three counts of animal
> cruelty and a disorderly persons offense.

These girls are SICK.  They need to be removed from their homes immediately.
Something is obviously going VERY wrong in their homes.  I am sure they are
themselves the victims of abuse.  They need residential help NOW -- serious,
long-term, psychiatric, in-house help.  If they don't get it, they will
inflict this type of abuse on their own children (and they both will
probably be pregnant themselves in a couple of years).

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influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF." Joss Whedon

"Education is freedom.  It is the answer."

nimue - 02 Jan 2005 20:10 GMT
>> SATURDAY, JANUARY 1, 2005
>>
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
> their own children (and they both will probably be pregnant
> themselves in a couple of years).

I want to add something.  It takes a lot for me to say that these girls
should get the help they need.  A big part of me thinks they and anyone who
abuses animals or people should just be either locked up forever or given
the death penalty (not that that is allowable under the law, but it is how I
feel).  However, since they are so young AND because I believe they must
have suffered terribly themselves in their lives, I think they should get
treatment.  If they do something like this again, they should be locked up
forever.  That wouldn't happen, of course.  Probably nothing will happen to
or for them now, either.

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influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF." Joss Whedon

"Education is freedom.  It is the answer."

Olaf Gustafson - 03 Jan 2005 22:55 GMT
>>> The names of the girls were being withheld by authorities because of
>>> their age, but each have been charged with three counts of animal
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> immediately. Something is obviously going VERY wrong in their homes.
>> I am sure they are themselves the victims of abuse.

I'm not sure they are.  Really, some people are just sick.

>>  They need
>> residential help NOW -- serious, long-term, psychiatric, in-house
>> help.

They also need to spend some time in prison.

>>  If they don't get it, they will inflict this type of abuse on
>> their own children (and they both will probably be pregnant
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>the death penalty (not that that is allowable under the law, but it is how I
>feel).  

Understandably.

>However, since they are so young

13 is not "so young".   They are (or should be) fully capable of
understanding concepts such as pain, death and most importantly right
and wrong.

> AND because I believe they must
>have suffered terribly themselves in their lives, I think they should get
>treatment.  

If they are truly unable to ascertain the difference between right and
wrong (i.e. not guilty by reason of insanity), then we should put them
in a mental hospital.

They don't need to be roaming the streets.

>If they do something like this again, they should be locked up
>forever.  That wouldn't happen, of course.  Probably nothing will happen to
>or for them now, either.

Whatever happens, it should follow them for the rest of their lives.
I wouldn't have a problem with hiring someone who many years ago had a
record for PI (public intoxication), vandalism, or even shoplifting as
a juvenile, but I would have a problem with hiring someone with an
animal cruelty conviction
nimue - 04 Jan 2005 00:15 GMT
>>>> The names of the girls were being withheld by authorities because
>>>> of their age, but each have been charged with three counts of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> I'm not sure they are.  Really, some people are just sick.

I agree that some people ARE just sick.  However, I think the odds are in
favor of these girls having an abusive home life.

>>>  They need
>>> residential help NOW -- serious, long-term, psychiatric, in-house
>>> help.
>
> They also need to spend some time in prison.

Well, yeah.

>>>  If they don't get it, they will inflict this type of abuse on
>>> their own children (and they both will probably be pregnant
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> understanding concepts such as pain, death and most importantly right
> and wrong.

But they could still change -- I think.  I hope against hope that they
could, if they received help.

>> AND because I believe they must
>> have suffered terribly themselves in their lives, I think they
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> a juvenile, but I would have a problem with hiring someone with an
> animal cruelty conviction

I would never hire them or rent to them or even talk to them.

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influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF." Joss Whedon

"Education is freedom.  It is the answer."

CHAR WAINSCOTT - 11 Mar 2005 16:34 GMT
Where were their parents,they should be held accountable for the actions of
the girls.
Denise Clere - 04 Jan 2005 10:43 GMT
some1 should bury THEM up to thier eyeballs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 SATURDAY, JANUARY 1, 2005

 WorldNetDaily

 CRIMENETDAILY
 Posted: January 1, 2005
 1:00 a.m. Eastern

 Girls 'stomp kitten,
 then brag about it'

 13-year-olds facing cruelty charges for act called 'beyond sick – it's evil'

 Two girls from New Jersey are facing animal-cruelty charges after allegedly stomping on a kitten before burying it alive up to its neck.

 "This is beyond sick – it's evil," Cumberland County SPCA Agent Beverly Greco told the Bridgeton News. "We have reached a new low."

 The 13-year-olds from Laurel Lake, N.J., reportedly acquired two kittens Dec. 5, but were told by their father they couldn't keep the animals.

 "We received information from the local animal-control officer and the school [they attended] that the girls were bragging about what they had done," Greco said. "The girls, who are stepsisters who live separately, reportedly had taken two 8-month-old kittens who had been offered for adoption by their owner."

 "They took the kittens to a nearby wooded area, where one of the kittens escaped. The other one was stomped, had a red tank top tied around its neck, and was buried in the dirt with its head sticking out."

 Greco said most of the feline's bones had been broken during the onslaught.

 "Another person found the dead kitten and removed it from the dirt and reburied it," she told the paper. "We exhumed the kitten and did a necropsy on the body, and determined that it had suffocated from the dirt packed around it after the girls buried it."

 The names of the girls were being withheld by authorities because of their age, but each have been charged with three counts of animal cruelty and a disorderly persons offense.
Olaf Gustafson - 04 Jan 2005 16:16 GMT
>some1 should bury THEM up to thier eyeballs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hangin's too good for them.
Burnin's too good for them.
They should be torn into itsy bitsy pieces and buried alive
Gary Stone - 04 Jan 2005 18:50 GMT
>>some1 should bury THEM up to thier eyeballs
>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Hangin's too good for them.
> Burnin's too good for them.
> They should be torn into itsy bitsy pieces and buried alive

Yeah, all that. then rip off their heads and spit in their necks even make
some derogatory remarks about their mothers. ;-)

Stone
dd - 04 Jan 2005 19:20 GMT
> >>some1 should bury THEM up to thier eyeballs
> >>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Stone

These girls will probably go on to marry, or maybe not,  but I'll bet
you a buck that they will undoubtedly have children. That's a chilling
picture, isn't it? People who are this bad this young don't improve
with age.
nimue - 05 Jan 2005 22:07 GMT
> >some1 should bury THEM up to thier eyeballs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Hangin's too good for them.
> Burnin's too good for them.
> They should be torn into itsy bitsy pieces and buried alive

Uh, that last thing would happen in what order?
A - 07 Jan 2005 21:22 GMT
> > Hangin's too good for them
> > Burnin's too good for them
> > They should be torn into itsy bitsy pieces and buried aliv
>
> Uh, that last thing would happen in what order

This is why I like cats instead of people.
Frankly. I think sticking them into a big cat cage would be ample punishment, but it would be cruel to the big cat.
CHAR WAINSCOTT - 11 Mar 2005 16:36 GMT
Thats oh so true, it would be a fitting end except for the abuse the cat
would feel.
Mike Z. Helm - 08 Jan 2005 00:58 GMT
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:07:17 GMT, "nimue" <cup_o_cakes@yahoo.com>

>> >some1 should bury THEM up to thier eyeballs
>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Uh, that last thing would happen in what order?

That's what Hanover Fiste suggested be done to Capt. Sternn.  But we all
know what happened to him.

See "Heavy Metal" (the movie)

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