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If anyone in this groups shops at this store, you might want to consider boycotting it. From Internet news: Wal-Mart Workers Accused of Shooting Cat EVANSVILLE, Ind. (AP) - Two Wal-Mart employees who police say followed a manager's orders to shoot and kill a stray cat have been charged with federal animal cruelty. The men, both assistant managers at the Supercenter, were arrested and released after a court appearance Wednesday. Christopher Anderson, 29, and Jeffrey Hardin, 21, told police the store's manager ordered them to get rid of the animal that was living in a storage trailer behind their store. All managers potentially involved in the incident have been suspended without pay pending an internal investigation and could be fired, said Wal-Mart spokeswoman Sharon Weber. ``We were outraged when we learned of this incident. This kind of action is completely inconsistent with the way we do business,'' she said. A truck driver who reported the incident said he saw store employees placing what he believed to be a dead animal in shrink wrap a day after he heard workers joking about shooting the cat. Store manager Darrel Weitzel told police he had told some of his employees to get a gun and get rid of the cat after attempts to coax it from the trailer failed, according to a police report. Anderson and Hardin were scheduled for a hearing Jan. 4. Fired thats it they should all be strung up by there thumbs. I wont be going to walmart anytime soon I am alreqady boycotting target because they will not let the bell ringers stand in front of there store >If anyone in this groups shops at this store, you might want to >consider boycotting it. From Internet news: I saw this on Fox news. Why boycott the store? The accused are facing federal charges, the managers have been suspended without pay pending further investigation. I'd continue shopping at wal-mart. They are not sweeping this under the rug. I can't say I have any complaints about how this is being handled by Wal-mart. >EVANSVILLE, Ind. (AP) - Two Wal-Mart employees who police say followed >a manager's orders to shoot and kill a stray cat have been charged with >federal animal cruelty. >All managers potentially involved in the incident have been suspended >without pay pending an internal investigation and could be fired, said >Wal-Mart spokeswoman Sharon Weber. The charges are being brought by the government, not Wal-mart. The store didn't take any action on this until a truck driver, who is not an employee of that particular store, reported the crime to police, and at that point, Wal-mart had to issue a statement. And, yes, Wal-mart is saying the managers have been SUSPENDED and MIGHT BE fired, but the store manager, Darrel Weitzel, told police he had told some of his employees shoot the cat, so why aren't they firing this guy's sorry a.s NOW? Boycotting the store sends the retailer a message--the only message they care about: Your customers don't approve of inhumane action, and if you alienate them, your profits will suffer. > >If anyone in this groups shops at this store, you might want to > >consider boycotting it. From Internet news: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Newsgroups > ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- : The charges are being brought by the government, not Wal-mart. The : store didn't take any action on this until a truck driver, who is not [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] : > Newsgroups : > ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- Didn't this story come up several weeks/months ago? Fire the people who killed the cat and ordered it. Get off of Wal-Mart's back about something that happened in one store and start looking at the way they treat the fish in their pet department, fish in small drinking cups- so small the fish can't swim around. Google fish abuse and Walmart is at the top of the list. There is even a website about widespread abuse by Walmart. > : The charges are being brought by the government, not Wal-mart. The > : store didn't take any action on this until a truck driver, who is not [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Google fish abuse and Walmart is at the top of the list. There > is even a website about widespread abuse by Walmart. This story appeared on Netscape headline news this morning, and since the two men involved were arrested yesterday, I assume that this is not a weeks-old or months-old story. My mistake. Who was it that had a very similar story about killing an injured cat in the parking lot of a large store? Sorry, I'll try to be more careful and at least read the story next time. : > : The charges are being brought by the government, not Wal-mart. The : > : store didn't take any action on this until a truck driver, who is not [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] : the two men involved were arrested yesterday, I assume that this is not : a weeks-old or months-old story. The one you're thinking of happened in Wisconson, IIRC, and it was an injured cat in the parking lot, and they sues shovels to cop it's head off (and aparently did not do a good job as it took several tries). And the store was a Menards.... and they just opened a store here last year, and we *were* buying stuff from them, but now I'm wondering if we should go elsewhere (there is a Lowe's up the road...)... > My mistake. Who was it that had a very similar story about > killing an injured cat in the parking lot of a large store? Sorry, [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] >> not >> a weeks-old or months-old story. --? The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)? email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:45:34 GMT, "Magic Mood Jeep©" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote: >The one you're thinking of happened in Wisconson, IIRC, and it was an >injured cat in the parking lot, and they sues shovels to cop it's head off >(and aparently did not do a good job as it took several tries). And the >store was a Menards.... and they just opened a store here last year, and we >*were* buying stuff from them, but now I'm wondering if we should go >elsewhere (there is a Lowe's up the road...)... I won't be shopping at their stores for the foreseeable future....especially where the nearest store is thousands of miles away. (Ohio.....stolen election central). > The one you're thinking of happened in Wisconson, IIRC, and it was an > injured cat in the parking lot, and they sues shovels to cop it's [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > wondering if we should go elsewhere (there is a Lowe's up the > road...)... Go to Lowe's -- and let Menards know why. >> My mistake. Who was it that had a very similar story about >> killing an injured cat in the parking lot of a large store? Sorry, [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com > http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep  Signaturenimue "If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF." Joss Whedon "Education is freedom. It is the answer." >Didn't this story come up several weeks/months ago? I don't believe so. I seem to recall the circumstances of that one was diffrent. >Fire the >people who killed the cat and ordered it. Get off of Wal-Mart's [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Google fish abuse and Walmart is at the top of the list. There >is even a website about widespread abuse by Walmart. Uhhh....you've never bought fish have you? I've bought lots of fish over the years and they always give you the fish in a small container filled with water. Lots of times it is a small plastic bag. And this is from various pet stores speciallizing in fish. BTW, the container is only temporary. The idea is it's only in there long enough to get them home and put it in your fish aquarium. And no, nobody is going to give you a ten gallon tank to bring the fish home in unless you buy the tank. These fish are left for days. It is not just a take home thing. Beautiful little fish with long reddish fins. If you do a google on 'fish abuse' this ... was the first hit: http://www.petlibrary.com/goldfish/walmart.htm BTW, I do not blame cats for eating fish or birds, nor fish from eating other fish, or birds eating worms... : >Didn't this story come up several weeks/months ago? : I don't believe so. I seem to recall the circumstances of [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] : http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups : ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- >These fish are left for days. It is not just a take home thing. >Beautiful little fish with long reddish fins. If you do a google [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >BTW, I do not blame cats for eating fish or birds, nor >fish from eating other fish, or birds eating worms... Great. How humanitarian - or animalatarian? of you. >>http://www.petlibrary.com/goldfish/walmart.htm >> >>BTW, I do not blame cats for eating fish or birds, nor >>fish from eating other fish, or birds eating worms... > >Great. How humanitarian - or animalatarian? of you. You do realize animals are hard wired for this at birth? It's called the food chain in action. BTW, the link doesn't work. I just get a white screen. : >>http://www.petlibrary.com/goldfish/walmart.htm : >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] : http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups : ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- : >>http://www.petlibrary.com/goldfish/walmart.htm : >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] : : BTW, the link doesn't work. I just get a white screen. The link didn't work for me either. Try "fish abuse" google. It should be the first hit. >And, yes, Wal-mart is saying the managers have been SUSPENDED and MIGHT >BE fired, but the store manager, Darrel Weitzel, told police he had >told some of his employees shoot the cat, so why aren't they firing >this guy's sorry a.s NOW? Because here in the United States, a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. This manager hasn't been tried yet, let alone found guilty. You can't fire someone just based on what he supposedly told the police. Walmart has suspended all managers potentially involved in the incident, WITHOUT pay, pending an internal investigation. >>And, yes, Wal-mart is saying the managers have been SUSPENDED and MIGHT >>BE fired, but the store manager, Darrel Weitzel, told police he had [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >guilty. This manager hasn't been tried yet, let alone found guilty. You can't >fire someone just based on what he supposedly told the police. Actually, you can. You don't have to commit a crime, let alone be convicted of one, to lose your job. > Walmart has >suspended all managers potentially involved in the incident, WITHOUT pay, >pending an internal investigation. >Actually, you can. You don't have to commit a crime, let alone be >convicted of one, to lose your job. Debateable. If they fire this person they may be sued. Even if the person is convicted they may be sued if they fire this person. Just because someone is convicted doesn't automatically entitle an employer to fire an employee. There have been cases were someone is convicted and the employer is still slapped with a suit for illegal firing. And sometimes the employee has won. There have been some cases around here where xxxx person was convicted of xxxxxx crime (murder, child molestation) and the employer was forced to rehire them at full back pay. It doesn't necessarily follow that Wal-mart can fire these people. On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:29:06 -0500, Amy Gray <JudgeAmyGrayNOSPAM@hotmail.com> >>Actually, you can. You don't have to commit a crime, let alone be >>convicted of one, to lose your job. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Just because someone is convicted doesn't automatically >entitle an employer to fire an employee. Of course this varies from state to state. I've always worked in states where I was employed "at will" - and I'm a white male, so a discrimination suit isn't likely to help much. >There have been cases were someone is convicted and the employer >is still slapped with a suit for illegal firing. And sometimes the >employee has won. And there are cases where companies have been sued because they hired a convict who later committed a crime. >There have been some cases around here where xxxx person was convicted >of xxxxxx crime (murder, child molestation) and the employer was >forced to rehire them at full back pay. It doesn't necessarily >follow that Wal-mart can fire these people. If they're in an "at-will" state, they can - I'm not sure on laws in states where employers don't have rights. >----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- >http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups >---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- >Of course this varies from state to state. I've always worked in states >where I was employed "at will" - and I'm a white male, so a >discrimination suit isn't likely to help much. Around here though there have been cases where someone was terminated by an employer for xxxxxx crime only to have the courts step in and force the employer to rehire the person at with full back pay and a hefty package to compensate for wrong ful termination. Employers can fire you for cause, having been convicted of xxx crime is not always cause. >And there are cases where companies have been sued because they hired a >convict who later committed a crime. But that is a double edge sword and a sore point with employers. They can be sucessfully sued for hiring someone who was convicted of something but they can also be sued for inquiring into criminal records that are confidential. They're screwed whether they do or they don't. For employers they can't win. >If they're in an "at-will" state, they can - I'm not sure on laws in >states where employers don't have rights. But the bottom line is the laws are conflicting on this issue, which is what happens when you have elected officials making laws at 2 am in the morning at the end of the legislative session for the year. Around here the employer can't get information on your criminal record, yet they can be slammed for hiring someone with a criminal record. > If anyone in this groups shops at this store, you might want to > consider boycotting it. From Internet news: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Anderson and Hardin were scheduled for a hearing Jan. 4. I did a bit of searching, and found an online "store feedback form" for Wal-Mart... I suggest as many people as possible fill one out & click submit, to they will learn that "we are not amused" by this happening http://www.walmartstores.com/wmstore/wmstores/Container.jsp?template=OnlineForm.jsp --? The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)? email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:50:34 GMT, "Magic Mood Jeep©" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote: >I did a bit of searching, and found an online "store feedback form" for >Wal-Mart... I suggest as many people as possible fill one out & click >submit, to they will learn that "we are not amused" by this happening I would suggest letting it ride for now. Let the judicial system take it's course first. Walmart is very limited in what it can do at this point.....if they fired anyone they would be sued faster than you can say litigation. none of this surprises me....the fact that the managers said to shoot the cat, i mean. i worked at walmart for 2 years, and during those years, they shut down the store every 4-6 months or so for a few hours over night to shoot the birds which would routinely get in. and our unloading crew was under strict orders to get rid of any animal which got into the unloading area, though they were NEVER told to shoot anything back there (because the store was open while they unloaded trucks). our cat (then a kitten) was rescued from behind our store last january by my boyfriend after he found out that the unloaders threw water on her and were repeatedly kicking her (it was very very cold out...and she was just trying to get warm and get a meal from the spilled dog food on the floor). my guess is that those managers were only suspended because of the investigation, but they will NOT be fired because the incident took place in a trailer....not in the store itself. trust me....walmart doesn't get rid of its managers. at the most, the bastard will be given a slap on the wrist, then transferred to another store. Julia > Wal-Mart Workers Accused of Shooting Cat > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Anderson and Hardin were scheduled for a hearing Jan. 4. <snip> > our cat (then a kitten) was rescued from behind our store last january by > my [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > trying > to get warm and get a meal from the spilled dog food on the floor). What the heck is wrong with some people? (not you, the unloaders freezing and kicking the poor kitten) Justin <snip <SNIP> >my guess is that those managers were only suspended because of the >investigation, but they will NOT be fired because the incident took place in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Julia Wow! Sounds a lot like how the Catholic Church operates..... eq <SNIP ><SNIP> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > ><SNIP> You do realize wal mart fired them? (Someone posted that earlier). >><SNIP> >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >You do realize wal mart fired them? (Someone posted that earlier). Do try and get your attributions right next time. A little bit of attentions wouldn't hurt you for a change. I was responding to someone who made the statement about Walmart moving employees to a different store, I didn't make the statement. >----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- >http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups >---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- > ><SNIP> > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > You do realize wal mart fired them? (Someone posted that earlier). yes. i read that yesterday too. but i'm saying that they WILL be rehired. almost definately. in the two years i worked for that company (i just quit about a month ago), i saw one manager get "fired" for multiple sexual harassment charges, then he was rehired 90 days later and took the same position he left. and more recently, a manager was "fired" after selling alcohol to a minor (something that would bring legal charges on a normal cashier), and rehired 90 days later. all i was saying was that walmart does not get rid of its managers. i'll bet we never hear of it again, but both of those managers that shot the cat, AND the store manager will be rehired......possibly at a different store, but they will. Julia and no, i don't hold any hatred for the company, but that's how it works >>> <SNIP> >>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > and no, i don't hold any hatred for the company, but that's how it > works I hate the company! They will never get any of my money again. --- nimue "If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF." Joss Whedon "Education is freedom. It is the answer." >but i'm saying that they WILL be rehired. almost definately. in the two years i worked for that company (i just quit about a month ago), i saw one manager get "fired" for multiple sexual harassment charges, then he was rehired 90 days later and took the same position he left. and more recently, a manager was "fired" after selling alcohol to a minor (something that would bring legal charges on a normal cashier), and rehired 90 days later.< Gosh, that's awful. What you are describing sounds so sleazy. If Wal-Mart is so unethical, why were you a part of this company and worked for them for 2 years? Dik because whining on usenet does not pay the bills man.... use your brain. -agent smith SignatureBe sure to check out http://home.satx.rr.com/satxcichlids for information on my fishies! also, sign up for a *FREE* ipod here: http://www.freeiPods.com/default.aspx?referer=9570045 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/daewootech/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/daewoolanos/ http://www.geocities.com/daewoolanoshatchback/ contact info: agentsmith@UNDIES.the-c0re.tk agentsmith2011@UNDIES.punkass.com remove UNDIES to reply :D > >but i'm saying that they WILL be rehired. > almost definately. in the two years i worked for that company (i just quit [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Dik Hey, I've got bills to pay like everyone else. None of this junk that happened ever involved me....though i'm sure if it HAD, I may have left sooner. ---Julia >Hey, I've got bills to pay like everyone else. None of this junk that >happened ever involved me....though i'm sure if it HAD, I may have left >sooner. Wait a minute. According to you, you knew what was happening. You knew what was happening was unethical. But as it did not involve you, you looked the other way and willingly cashed your Wal-mart's paychecks for two years, only turning on them when you are no longer profiting from their payroll. You have bills to pay? We all have bills to pay. But most of us would not pay our bills by profiting from a company which we later backbited as unethical. By you own account, you are either a terrible judge of character to have worked for Wal-mart, or you yourself are of such questionable character that you knowingly participated in an unethical cause to fatten your own wallet. Think about your accusation and what your accusation infers about yourself. You can't have it both ways. >>Hey, I've got bills to pay like everyone else. None of this junk that >>happened ever involved me....though i'm sure if it HAD, I may have left [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >about your accusation and what your accusation infers about yourself. You can't >have it both ways. Matthew 7:1 >>>Hey, I've got bills to pay like everyone else. None of this junk that >>>happened ever involved me....though i'm sure if it HAD, I may have left [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Matthew 7:1 I've found over the years, 9 out of 10 times, that when a Christian says to you, "I'm not judging you"........ it's time to watch out! >Wait a minute. According to you, you knew what was happening. You knew what >was >happening was unethical. Are you still talking about the manager who was re-hired after sexual harassment allegations? You're flaming her for not *immediately* walking out on her only source of income out of principal for that? She left the job. Walking out on the spot for "ethics" would have made a great statement, but everybody doesn't have that luxury. Get off her back. Sherry "Sherry " wrote... > >Wait a minute. According to you, you knew what was happening. You knew what > >was [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > statement, but everybody doesn't have that luxury. Get off her back. > Sherry Thanks Sherry. :) I didn't quite know how to respond to him without being nasty. You're right though, walking out would have been great, but at the time, I didn't know how to drive, and walmart was the only place I could work within walking distance of my apartment. (I just got my driver's license and a car in September, although I'm almost 23 years old.) Slightly back on the topic though......does anyone know what's happened with those 2 employees who shot the cat? or the manager who ordered them to do it? ---Julia >I didn't quite know how to respond to him without being nasty. You're right though, walking out would have been great, but at the time, I didn't know how to drive, and walmart was the only place I could work within walking distance of my apartment. (I just got my driver's license and a car in September, although I'm almost 23 years old.)< Nasty? Why would you need to be nasty? I raised some very valid points, none of which you addressed. Instead, you went onto this ad misericordiam spiel to justify profiting from an unethical company. This is a cat newsgroup. We care about cats. You told us that Walmart will re-hire the cat killers. You stated this from your experience of working for Walmart. This means you profited from Walmart although you knew that their ethics was so low that they would even re-hire cat killers as employees. Yet, you had no ethical problem being counted as among these employees? What you described about Walmart's conduct - and I assume that you are accurate - makes me despise them as much as you do. The only difference between you and me is that I never profited from Walmart. You did. "Dik F. Liu" <dikfliu@aol.comnojunk> wrote... > >I didn't quite know how to respond to him without being nasty. You're right > though, walking out would have been great, but at the time, I didn't know how [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Nasty? Why would you need to be nasty? Only because I don't take kindly to people flaming me. > I raised some very valid points, none of > which you addressed. Instead, you went onto this ad misericordiam spiel to > justify profiting from an unethical company. Ummm, if i remember correctly, your "points" addressed my character, and the fact that i "fattened my wallet" by continuing to work there even after i saw things that were unethical. Right? I'll say what Sherry did....it would have been nice to storm into the manager's office screaming, "I QUIT because this company is so unethical!!" except I couldn't do it at the time. I go back to the issue of needing to live....and needing money to do so. > This is a cat newsgroup. We care about cats. True. But how was I to pay for my cat (well....now, one cat and 4 kittens) to eat if i didn't have a job? Forget about me, my cat had to eat too. > You told us that Walmart will > re-hire the cat killers. You stated this from your experience of working for > Walmart. This means you profited from Walmart although you knew that their > ethics was so low that they would even re-hire cat killers as employees. Yet, > you had no ethical problem being counted as among these employees? And they probably WILL rehire these people. It's true, I've never seen a manager permanently let go. They may get off on a technicality (such as, "we were told to get rid of the cat any way we can because a cat in our merchandise violates health codes"), or they may just be rehired at a different store. I will almost bet that there are many companies around the country that do the same thing. > What you described about Walmart's conduct - and I assume that you are accurate > - makes me despise them as much as you do. The only difference between you and > me is that I never profited from Walmart. > > You did. This is almost pathetic. Are you attempting to single-handedly bring down a multi-billion dollar company simply by not shopping there? It's a retail/grocery store. And where I live, it's the ONLY store. (I moved from Pennsylvania to Oklahoma 3 years ago, and almost couldn't believe the walmart craze here.) I'm glad that you haven't worked there, and don't shop there. But I did, and I do. And my CAT was happy that she got to eat every day, due to my having a job. ---Julia >And my CAT was happy that she got to eat every day, due to my having a job.< Heavens Betsy. Should I break out the violin? You had bills to pay. You can't drive. Now your latest: you have to work at Walmart because otherwise you can't feed you cats? Mercy. You must think that you are writing to patsies, gullible to your blatantly manipulative wrangling. >Right? I'll say what Sherry did....it would have been nice to storm into the manager's office screaming, "I QUIT because this company is so unethical!!" except I couldn't do it at the time.< No, you needn't do that. That's because there was no need for you to scream at the manager's office. Most people just naturally follow their conscience and act ethically - without any fanfare or grandstanding. True, being ethical is inconvenient. It will put you out. You might need to get a new job or your cats will starve (yeah, right!). But being inconvenient is a measure of one's ethics: you set aside your self-interest to do what's right. Ethics isn't measured by conveniently doing what is right only when it is profitable. You made your choice to work at Walmart, which is fine. But what makes you even less ethical is to then turn around and to backbite the very unethical source whose paychecks you cashed. This makes you worse than participating in an unethical cause. This makes you a hypocrite. Before you decry how I am trying to flame poor you who are just trying to feed your starving cats, please objectively examine this post. : >Hey, I've got bills to pay like everyone else. None of this junk that : >happened ever involved me....though i'm sure if it HAD, I may have left [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] : about your accusation and what your accusation infers about yourself. You can't : have it both ways. Someone's attacking a former employee of Wal-Mart. Why. That person isn't on trial, Wal-Mart is. > : In article <Rz%Gd.18370$ph.10877@okepread01>, "KiaSidhe" > <kia8008@hotmail.com> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Someone's attacking a former employee of Wal-Mart. Why. > That person isn't on trial, Wal-Mart is. I thought that the three employees of Wal-mart were the ones on trial, not Wal-mart itself? Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong. (I'm sure that is bound to happen anyway). : > : In article <Rz%Gd.18370$ph.10877@okepread01>, "KiaSidhe" : > <kia8008@hotmail.com> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] : not Wal-mart itself? Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong. (I'm : sure that is bound to happen anyway). Yeah, you're right. But there is a question whether Wal~Mart is doing the right thing by not disciplining them, right? >Someone's attacking a former employee of Wal-Mart. Why. >That person isn't on trial, Wal-Mart is. Walmart isn't on trial. They fired these employees. These are now former employees, just like this Julia. It is these former employees who are on trial. > If anyone in this groups shops at this store, you might want to > consider boycotting it. From Internet news: I will NEVER shop at a Walmart again. I mean it. This is the last f*cking straw. What a disgusting store. > Wal-Mart Workers Accused of Shooting Cat > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Anderson and Hardin were scheduled for a hearing Jan. 4. Signaturenimue "If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF." Joss Whedon "Education is freedom. It is the answer." > If anyone in this groups shops at this store, you might want to > consider boycotting it. From Internet news: <snipperroo> Well, a "high five" to the trucker that turned them in at least. I hope when these scumbags time comes, they are tormented for eternity by a very large, very mean cat! Justin > If anyone in this groups shops at this store, you might want to > consider boycotting it. From Internet news: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Anderson and Hardin were scheduled for a hearing Jan. 4. Could you post a link to this article? I am not finding it by searching on Google. Thanks Justin Here's one: http://www.theindychannel.com/news/4035116/detail.html?treets=ind&tid=2654501061 813&tml=ind_4pm&tmi=ind_4pm_1_03050212302004&ts=H Indianapolis TV station web site, ABC affiliate. >> If anyone in this groups shops at this store, you might want to >> consider boycotting it. From Internet news: [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Justin --? The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)? email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep >Could you post a link to this article? I am not finding it by searching on >Google. http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=http://www.fortwayne.com/m ld/fortwayne/news/local/10531024.htm&filter=0 Only 204 versions. http://www.theindychannel.com/news/4035116/detail.html?treets=ind&tid=2654501061 813&tml=ind_7am&tmi=ind_7am_1_06050212312004&ts=H Wal-Mart Fires 3 Workers After Cat Killed Police: Two Followed Manager's Orders To Shoot Animal POSTED: 6:52 am EST December 30, 2004 EVANSVILLE, Ind. -- Two Wal-Mart employees have been charged with felony animal cruelty after police said they followed a manager's orders to shoot and kill a stray cat. The men, both assistant managers at the store, were arrested and released after a court appearance Wednesday. Christopher Anderson, 29, and Jeffrey Hardin, 21, told police the store's manager ordered them to get rid of the animal that was living in a storage trailer behind their store. Anderson and Hardin repeatedly shot the cat with a pellet gun from the store until it died the following day, a Vanderburgh County Sheriff's Department report said. "We were sickened by this cruelty," Kevin D. Miller, regional vice president for the Arkansas-based retailer, said in a news release Thursday. "After an internal investigation, we terminated the three associates we know to be involved," the release said. The company did not name the employees who were fired. The company also plans to donate $10,000 to split between the Vanderburgh County and Warrick County Humane Societies in Indiana, the release said. A truck driver who reported the incident said he saw store employees placing what he believed to be a dead animal in shrink wrap a day after he heard workers joking about shooting the cat. Store manager Darrel Weitzel told police he had told some of his employees to get a gun and get rid of the cat after attempts to coax it from the trailer failed, according to a police report. Anderson and Hardin were scheduled for a hearing next Tuesday. Copyright 2004 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. > If anyone in this groups shops at this store, you might want to > consider boycotting it. From Internet news: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Anderson and Hardin were scheduled for a hearing Jan. 4. --? The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)? email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep This is even more horrible than was first reported--the poor kitty suffered for a whole day after being "repeatedly shot." At least Wal-mart took action and is making a donation to shelters. I hope that the employees that ordered this and took part in it suffer consequences comensurate to their actions. > http://www.theindychannel.com/news/4035116/detail.html?treets=ind&tid=26545010 > 61813&tml=ind_7am&tmi=ind_7am_1_06050212312004&ts=H [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com > http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:58:03 GMT, "Magic Mood Jeep©" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote: >http://www.theindychannel.com/news/4035116/detail.html?treets=ind&tid=2654501061 813&tml=ind_7am&tmi=ind_7am_1_06050212312004&ts=H > >Wal-Mart Fires 3 Workers After Cat Killed I'm really surprised Wal-mart did this. I would point out though dont' be suprised if a court orders the employees rehired at some future date with full back pay. Wouldn't be the first time it happened to an employer. >http://www.theindychannel.com/news/4035116/detail.html?treets=ind&tid=2654501061 813&tml=ind_7am&tmi=ind_7am_1_06050212312004&ts=H > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > future date with full back pay. Wouldn't be the first time it > happened to an employer. um.....to be terminated (fired) from walmart only means you are not eligible for re-hire for 90 days. doesn't matter what the courts say.....chances are, walmart will re-hire the people (though, i doubt, with backpay) 90 days later. in the two years i worked there (no, not that long, but long enough), the only thing i saw people get terminated for that they couldn't ever get rehired for was theft. my guess is that all people involved will be rehired, if they were worth it, no matter what courts say (unless they are in jail). Julia and no, i'm not bad-mouthing walmart, or sticking up for the company.....just stating what i know. On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:41:15 -0500, Amy Gray <JudgeAmyGrayNOSPAM@hotmail.com> >On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:58:03 GMT, "Magic Mood Jeep©" ><nobody@nowhere.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >future date with full back pay. Wouldn't be the first time it >happened to an employer. I'm not buying it. People get fired all the time. >----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- >http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups >---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- > On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 13:41:15 -0500, Amy Gray > <JudgeAmyGrayNOSPAM@hotmail.com> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > I'm not buying it. People get fired all the time. Me neither. They broke the law while on company property and while on company business. This is not like being fired after an unsavory action (e.g., soliciting a prostitute) off-site and on their own time. >If anyone in this groups shops at this store, you might want to >consider boycotting it. From Internet news: You're kidding, right? There are a million reasons to boycott Wal-Mart - this one is just silly. It's an isolated incident - any company that employs as many folks as WM is bound to have a few bad apples. Also note that WM is dealing with the employees - it doesn't say the truck driver was a WM employee, but I suspect he was. I'm pretty sure WM does their own distribution. >Wal-Mart Workers Accused of Shooting Cat > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >Anderson and Hardin were scheduled for a hearing Jan. 4. >Also note that WM is dealing with the employees - it doesn't say the >truck driver was a WM employee, but I suspect he was. I'm pretty sure >WM does their own distribution. My understanding is the truck driver was probably a Wal Mart employee. Wal-mart has a fully automtated order, stocking and inventory system. No outside vendors get involved, so any trucks coming onto the property are Wal-mart employees. Wal-Mart Employees Accused of Shooting Cat. You would think it is illegal to fire a weapon -- in a crowded place -- like a Walmart Parking Lot. Below is Walmart's Response to my E-mail >>> Response from Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. (Ref #000000007563422) Thank you for your message. After an internal investigation, we terminated the three associates we know to be involved. Also, we are making a donation of $10,000, to be split between the Vanderburgh County and Warrick Humane Societies. It is our hope that, through this donation, they will be able to offer aid and comfort to other homeless animals. Thank You, Wal-Mart Customer Relations It was good of you to follow up on this. I'm sure that Wal-mart had excellent legal grounds on which to fire the employees: the most salient of which is breaking city/county/state laws while on company property and in during the course of their employment duties. Because all three were managers, they probably all had employment contracts which stipulated "illegal acts" as grounds for dismissal. > Wal-Mart Employees Accused of Shooting Cat. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Thank You, > Wal-Mart Customer Relations No, I was not kidding. Wal-mart needs to know how their customers react to cruelty. Corporate cultures are very real, and if the corporation takes a firm stance on this issue, it is less likely to be repeated. > >If anyone in this groups shops at this store, you might want to > >consider boycotting it. From Internet news: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > > >Anderson and Hardin were scheduled for a hearing Jan. 4. On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:38:31 GMT, dd <nomailgoeshere@comcast.net> >No, I was not kidding. Wal-mart needs to know how their customers react >to cruelty. But do they? South Park recently dealt with the topic of Wal-Mart and people who said they should boycott them. I think it was quite an accurate treatment. > Corporate cultures are very real, and if the corporation >takes a firm stance on this issue, it is less likely to be repeated. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >> > >> >Anderson and Hardin were scheduled for a hearing Jan. 4. B******s ! If anyone in this groups shops at this store, you might want to consider boycotting it. From Internet news: Wal-Mart Workers Accused of Shooting Cat EVANSVILLE, Ind. (AP) - Two Wal-Mart employees who police say followed a manager's orders to shoot and kill a stray cat have been charged with federal animal cruelty. The men, both assistant managers at the Supercenter, were arrested and released after a court appearance Wednesday. Christopher Anderson, 29, and Jeffrey Hardin, 21, told police the store's manager ordered them to get rid of the animal that was living in a storage trailer behind their store. All managers potentially involved in the incident have been suspended without pay pending an internal investigation and could be fired, said Wal-Mart spokeswoman Sharon Weber. ``We were outraged when we learned of this incident. This kind of action is completely inconsistent with the way we do business,'' she said. A truck driver who reported the incident said he saw store employees placing what he believed to be a dead animal in shrink wrap a day after he heard workers joking about shooting the cat. Store manager Darrel Weitzel told police he had told some of his employees to get a gun and get rid of the cat after attempts to coax it from the trailer failed, according to a police report. Anderson and Hardin were scheduled for a hearing Jan. 4 And these guys were MANAGERS, they passed the HR traits assessment to be WALMART BOSSES. ME-OW, ouch, ouch, ouch. JG > And these guys were MANAGERS, they passed the HR traits assessment to > be WALMART BOSSES. ME-OW, ouch, ouch, ouch. > > JG Well, on the other hand, it is WalMart, not Nasa. > > And these guys were MANAGERS, they passed the HR traits assessment to > > be WALMART BOSSES. ME-OW, ouch, ouch, ouch. > > > > JG > > Well, on the other hand, it is WalMart, not Nasa you wouldn't believe the traits to be hired at walmart as a manager......"breathe in, breathe out, you're hired." ;) that's about it. Julia |
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