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DrWoodardOnDS@hotmail.com - 29 Dec 2004 23:04 GMT While the death toll in the Tsunami is reaching 76,000 it now appears that very few if any wildlife were effected. The speculation is the wildlife detected the disaster was coming and fled the area.
Patty Brooks - 30 Dec 2004 00:16 GMT > The speculation >is the wildlife detected the disaster was coming >and fled the area. It's because their smarter than we are when it comes to survival.
KLR - 30 Dec 2004 00:30 GMT >While the death toll in the Tsunami is reaching 76,000 it now >appears that very few if any wildlife were effected. The speculation >is the wildlife detected the disaster was coming >and fled the area. I would agree. People for a long long time have observed that animals, birds (and even insects) have a 6th sense with many natural events, and react in advance to them happening, by getting out of the way of them.
Good example would be how ants move their eggs and such from out of the underground ant nest and to shelter (ie: into your house) before heavy rain..
MaryL - 30 Dec 2004 00:30 GMT >>While the death toll in the Tsunami is reaching 76,000 it now >>appears that very few if any wildlife were effected. The speculation [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > the underground ant nest and to shelter (ie: into your house) before > heavy rain.. My first cat would dash under a heavy piece of furniture just before every major storm. He would "head for cover" a few minutes *before* my WeatherAlert radio would sound the alarm, so I had my very own "early strategic warning."
MaryL
gwehrenb@bellsouth.net - 30 Dec 2004 00:58 GMT After Hurricane Andrew, my cat would always duck under the bed at least a half hour before any storm struck.
M.C. Mullen - 30 Dec 2004 04:55 GMT | My first cat would dash under a heavy piece of furniture just before every | major storm. He would "head for cover" a few minutes *before* my | WeatherAlert radio would sound the alarm, so I had my very own "early | strategic warning." | | MaryL What's a weather alert radio?? How does it work? Like traffic alert?
Carola
MaryL - 30 Dec 2004 13:35 GMT >| My first cat would dash under a heavy piece of furniture just before >every [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Carola They are personal radios that set off a loud warning alarm when NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration) forecasts a severe weather warning or alert for the user's area. Some set off the alarm for such a wide area that many users turn them off, but many can now be programmed for specific counties. Some will sound the alarm for a specific amount of time, then go to spoken words to describe the situation; with others, the radio will continue until the user pushes a button, and then move on to the description. They are small and inexpensive.
MaryL
MaryL - 30 Dec 2004 13:52 GMT > What's a weather alert radio?? How does it work? Like traffic alert? > > Carola Here's a link that briefly describes it. http://www.srh.noaa.gov/meg/svrawareness2001/planningday.htm
MaryL
Amy Gray - 30 Dec 2004 16:07 GMT >> What's a weather alert radio?? How does it work? Like traffic alert? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >MaryL If you live in tornado alley it is a necessity.
Amy Gray - 30 Dec 2004 16:04 GMT >What's a weather alert radio?? How does it work? Like traffic alert? http://www.radioshack.com/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG% 5F007%5F009%5F005%5F000&Page=1
They pick up weather alerts that are broadcast on special frequencies.
Also some cities/towns/states have warning systems in place for tornadoes.
Sherry - 04 Jan 2005 05:52 GMT >They pick up weather alerts that are broadcast on special >frequencies. > >Also some cities/towns/states have warning systems in place for >tornadoes. Actually, the NOAA weather radios don't just broadcast alerts. They deliver usual daily forecasts from the national weather service, and storm watches, as well as flash flood/tornado warnings. They're good to have, particularly the variety that sets off an alarm that will wake you. Sherry
M.C. Mullen - 30 Dec 2004 04:53 GMT | >While the death toll in the Tsunami is reaching 76,000 it now | >appears that very few if any wildlife were effected. The speculation [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] | the underground ant nest and to shelter (ie: into your house) before | heavy rain.. Well, I've experienced minor earthquakes and dog and cats slept through them as usual.
Carola
Amy Gray - 30 Dec 2004 16:10 GMT >Well, I've experienced minor earthquakes and dog and cats slept through them >as usual. Emphasis on minor. In the case of Southeast Asia the quake was 9.0 a severe earthquake. Being low to the ground the quake tipped the animals off to the impending Tsunami.
equalizer - 01 Jan 2005 15:18 GMT >>Well, I've experienced minor earthquakes and dog and cats slept through them >>as usual. >Emphasis on minor. In the case of Southeast Asia the quake was 9.0 a >severe earthquake. Being low to the ground the quake tipped the >animals off to the impending Tsunami. Our feet are at exactly the same distance from the ground as the animal's feet. So, how does the an animal's height make a difference in earthquake detection? Also, would many of those animals that escaped been at least as tall as man?
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Last I heard the death toll had reached 114 000 - it's very difficult to get my mind round that figure. I know this bit is off topic, but under the circumstances, I don't care - a link for people who would like to donate to the relief effort :- https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm
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Zythophile - 30 Dec 2004 18:29 GMT > Is there a source for this info? > OK, I should have googled it before asking. From http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNews&storyID=7207207
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Tsunami Adds to Belief in Animals' 'Sixth Sense' Thu Dec 30, 2004 01:31 PM GMT Printer Friendly | Email Article | RSS By Ed Stoddard JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - Wild animals seem to have escaped the Indian Ocean tsunami, adding weight to notions they possess a "sixth sense" for disasters, experts said Thursday.
Sri Lankan wildlife officials have said the giant waves that killed over 24,000 people along the Indian Ocean island's coast seemingly missed wild beasts, with no dead animals found.
"No elephants are dead, not even a dead hare or rabbit. I think animals can sense disaster. They have a sixth sense. They know when things are happening," H.D. Ratnayake, deputy director of Sri Lanka's Wildlife Department, said Wednesday.
The waves washed floodwaters up to 2 miles inland at Yala National Park in the ravaged southeast, Sri Lanka's biggest wildlife reserve and home to hundreds of wild elephants and several leopards. "There has been a lot of anecdotal evidence about dogs barking or birds migrating before volcanic eruptions or earthquakes. But it has not been proven," said Matthew van Lierop, an animal behavior specialist at Johannesburg Zoo.
"There have been no specific studies because you can't really test it in a lab or field setting," he told Reuters.
Other authorities concurred with this assessment.
"Wildlife seem to be able to pick up certain phenomenon, especially birds ... there are many reports of birds detecting impending disasters," said Clive Walker, who has written several books on African wildlife.
Animals certainly rely on the known senses such as smell or hearing to avoid danger such as predators.
The notion of an animal "sixth sense" -- or some other mythical power -- is an enduring one which the evidence on Sri Lanka's battered coast is likely to add to.
The Romans saw owls as omens of impending disaster and many ancient cultures viewed elephants as sacred animals endowed with special powers or attributes.
The tsunami was triggered by an earthquake in the Indian Ocean Sunday. It killed tens of thousands of people in Asia and East Africa.
? Reuters 2004. All Rights Reserved.
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Amy Gray - 30 Dec 2004 21:15 GMT >Is there a source for this info? Fox news this afternoon.
http://www.foxnews.com
>Last I heard the death toll had reached 114 000 - it's very difficult to get >my mind round that figure. I know this bit is off topic, but under the >circumstances, I don't care - a link for people who would like to donate to >the relief effort :- https://www.donate.bt.com/bt_form_dec.htm Or you could try: http://www.amazon.com
Zythophile - 01 Jan 2005 01:14 GMT > | >While the death toll in the Tsunami is reaching 76,000 it now > | >appears that very few if any wildlife were effected. The speculation [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Carola http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4138763.stm. Thank you America, you have risen to the challenge, I salute you.
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agent smith - 01 Jan 2005 02:31 GMT no offence, but since i already pay tax money (which no one will show me a law saying i have to pay them), i dont want my hard earned money going to some 3rd world country. i know this will anger many, but thats THEIR problem, NOT ours. i agree, give em food and supplies, but f.ck, there is NO WAY id donate money to them when theyre already getting aide. and one country TURNED DOWN the US aide we would have given them. ingrates.
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Mary - 01 Jan 2005 04:55 GMT > no offence, but since i already pay tax money (which no one will show me a > law saying i have to pay them), i dont want my hard earned money going to > some 3rd world country. i know this will anger many, but thats THEIR > problem, NOT ours. i agree, give em food and supplies, but f.ck, there is NO > WAY id donate money to them when theyre already getting aide. and one > country TURNED DOWN the US aide we would have given them. ingrates. Even if you ever find your caps key and you'll still sound like an idiot. Most importantly, your lack of humanity will come back and bite you in the a.s. Count on it.
agent smith - 01 Jan 2005 07:12 GMT > Even if you ever find your caps key and you'll still sound like an idiot. repeat that to yourself and you sound like you have no idea how to form a coherent english sentence... and youre calling ME the idiot? *g*
> Most importantly, your lack of humanity will come back and bite > you in the a.s. Count on it. lack of humanity? believe me, i feel bad for those guys, i just think we should send food and supplies, maybe a few workers, instead of sending cash. to each his own eh?
also, i dont belive in asinine things like karma, thanks for caring though ^_^
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Zythophile - 01 Jan 2005 14:39 GMT > lack of humanity? believe me, i feel bad for those guys, i just think we > should send food and supplies, maybe a few workers, instead of sending > cash. to each his own eh? The aid agencies over here are asking for cash, not stuff. I think that the idea is that they can spend the money to buy the supplies they need where it is cheapest and where the transportation costs will be lowest. At least that's what I assume their reasoning is; they're the experts, not me.
BTW, have you seen http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0006DF17-5A60-1C61-B882809EC588ED9F?
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Mary - 01 Jan 2005 17:02 GMT > > Even if you ever find your caps key and you'll still sound like an idiot. > > repeat that to yourself and you sound like you have no idea how to form a > coherent english sentence... and youre calling ME the idiot? *g* So there's an extra word in there. It's not like that raises your IQ or anything.
> > Most importantly, your lack of humanity will come back and bite > > you in the a.s. Count on it. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > also, i dont belive in asinine things like karma, thanks for caring though > ^_^ Did I SAY Karma? Just know that when your niggardly comments do come back to visit nasty things upon you, someone, somewhere will be laughing.
And find your caps key, moron.
agent smith - 01 Jan 2005 20:24 GMT >> > Even if you ever find your caps key and you'll still sound like an > idiot. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So there's an extra word in there. It's not like that raises your IQ or > anything. no, but it lowers yours *s*
>> > Most importantly, your lack of humanity will come back and bite >> > you in the a.s. Count on it. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Did I SAY Karma? Just know that when your niggardly comments do yeah you did. i mean, what else 'comes back and bites you in the a.s'? what else could you to that as? looks like your IQ was lowered again. btw, nice use of the n word you bigot.
> come back to visit nasty things upon you, someone, somewhere will > be laughing. what nasty things? again, i dont believe in stupid crap like karma. please take your pathetic argument elsewhere.
> And find your caps key, moron. IF YOU SAY SO ^_^
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rpl - 01 Jan 2005 18:12 GMT > lack of humanity? believe me, i feel bad for those guys, i just think we > should send food and supplies, maybe a few workers, instead of sending cash. > to each his own eh? well, the thing is while I belong to several community groups that are pledging greenbacks, not all people do. In your case the government is assuming that you would be willing to part with a penny or two to help them; that's what government does. You don't like it, don't vote them back in. (I do sympathize by the way)
Since AFAIK the government doesn't have agencies which are devoted to offshore disaster relief, the $$$ goes towards supporting civilian agencies that are.
And your military forces (which are usually the most effective way of applying anything in an emergency) are currently occupied in another corner of the world.
> also, i dont belive in asinine things like karma, thanks for caring though It's not necessary that you believe in karma as long as the critter that takes a chunk out of your butt does. ;)
:) agent smith - 01 Jan 2005 20:27 GMT >> lack of humanity? believe me, i feel bad for those guys, i just think we >> should send food and supplies, maybe a few workers, instead of sending [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > them; that's what government does. You don't like it, don't vote them back > in. (I do sympathize by the way) i did vote. sadly, if kerry were in office, we'd probably be sending more than 350mil.
> Since AFAIK the government doesn't have agencies which are devoted to > offshore disaster relief, the $$$ goes towards supporting civilian > agencies that are. well, thats a good thing i suppose. i was really concerned with my $$ going to people who would probably use it on things other than fixing up their casa...
> And your military forces (which are usually the most effective way of > applying anything in an emergency) are currently occupied in another > corner of the world. i loathe the military, mainly because of this fruitless war bush is waging on 'terrorism'. i mean, since he waged this idiotic war, we've made more enemies, NOT friends.
>> also, i dont belive in asinine things like karma, thanks for caring >> though [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > :) HAH! tu che!
-agent smith
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jacquie0 - 01 Jan 2005 20:40 GMT >>>lack of humanity? believe me, i feel bad for those guys, i just think we >>>should send food and supplies, maybe a few workers, instead of sending [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > /whos cat cami actually bit him quite hard last night, but shes declawed and > bites harder than his other kats ;) To all those who are so set on sending the Tsunami victims money, BE CAREFUL!!!!! In a news group called "Slashdot", it has come to the attention of several (hundred) people, that there are a lot of "false" accounts being set up for supposed aid to the Tsunami victims. Personally I can't even begin to imagine doing anything of such a nature, but, unfortunately, there are people out there who find these kinds of disasters a great way to make major money for themselves. If you wish to make donations of any kind, PLEASE do a little research as to whom, where, when and how you can do so without getting ripped off. I am sure that there are several different financial institutions that have some kind of trust fund set up for these people. If not, go to your local Red Cross. I am positive that they either have a hand in the relief efforts, or they will at least know who to refer you to. It is a cold hard world out there, and unfortunately it is the innocent ones that are the victims. Education is so vital!!! (and I don't mean just the elementary/secondary kinds).
equalizer - 01 Jan 2005 20:50 GMT >>>>lack of humanity? believe me, i feel bad for those guys, i just think we >>>>should send food and supplies, maybe a few workers, instead of sending [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] >ones that are the victims. Education is so vital!!! (and I don't mean >just the elementary/secondary kinds). So, why is the Red Cross so immune to corruption, and why should we take your word for it verbatim that THEY are to be trusted?!?!
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jacquie0 - 01 Jan 2005 22:35 GMT >>>>>lack of humanity? believe me, i feel bad for those guys, i just think we >>>>>should send food and supplies, maybe a few workers, instead of sending [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > eq Nobody says that you or any body else should take my word for it. I would think that an organization such as the Red Cross would be an easier one to find information about. If for some reason they are corrupt, how have they been able to stay in "business" for so long? May I ask.......Who the heck crapped into your cornflakes this morning? Not everyone is out to get you. I am actually starting to feel sorry for you. Are you always so cynical about everything? Life could become very lonely for you. That's too bad. You seem like an intelligent person who could be of some great assistance to those who lack the understanding.
Amy Gray - 01 Jan 2005 23:06 GMT >Nobody says that you or any body else should take my word for it. I >would think that an organization such as the Red Cross would be an >easier one to find information about. If for some reason they are >corrupt, how have they been able to stay in "business" for so long? Ask veterans from World War 2 why they hate the Red Cross so much. Also ask those who were less than satisfied with the Red Cross in the wake of 9/11.
equalizer - 01 Jan 2005 23:16 GMT >>Nobody says that you or any body else should take my word for it. I >>would think that an organization such as the Red Cross would be an [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Also ask those who were less than satisfied with the Red Cross in the >wake of 9/11. Could you possibly give a direct answer for a change instead of speaking in judicial tongues?
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Also the part about the Red Cross, that has nothing to the judicial area either. Red Cross complaints in the wake of 9/11 were well documented in the days following 9/11.
equalizer - 02 Jan 2005 00:17 GMT >>Could you possibly give a direct answer for a change instead of speaking >>in judicial tongues? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >area either. Red Cross complaints in the wake of 9/11 were well >documented in the days following 9/11. Nice back-peddle.....
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>----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- >http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups >---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- Mary - 02 Jan 2005 16:50 GMT > >Could you possibly give a direct answer for a change instead of speaking > >in judicial tongues? > This has nothing to do with judicial areas. You'd have to ask World > War 2 veterans why they hate the Red Cross. But the definetly do > hate them. Since most of them are dead, why not tell us why "they" hate the Red Cross?
DrWoodardOnDS@hotmail.com - 02 Jan 2005 19:20 GMT For the record they are not all dead. They are dying at the rate of 11,000 per day but there are those who are still alive.
As to why they hate the red cross, I don't know my relatives from Wold War 2 are hesitant to talk about World War 2. The impression I get is the hatred comes from the way the Red Cross treated World War 2 veterans, some of whom were like my Uncle who was sent home to basically put his affairs in order. He was basically being sent back to Europe on what was supposed to be a suicide mission.
Now at the ages of 80+ these veterans are extremely reluctant to talk about the war that this, our greatest generation, fought.
The impression I get is they felt they were mistreated by the Red Cross.
Anyone veterans of World War 2 who read this group who could elaborate?
Dik F. Liu - 12 Jan 2005 02:40 GMT > Red Cross complaints in the wake of 9/11 were well documented in the days following 9/11.<
Can you be specific? I am not picking a fight with you. I really need to know.
Many of us are giving money to different groups to help the tsunami victims. I for one have not given money to the Red Cross yet, but am considering it.
If indeed the Red Cross is as you wrote corrupted, I will of course channel my money elsewhere. But if the Red Cross is actually helping the tsunami victims there, then it wouldn't be fair to these victims if unfounded claims lead us to deprive these victims of their much needed resource.
The bottom line isn't if you or equalizer wins this argument. It is what we can do to help, and not further harm, these victims. We can only do that if we know the facts rather than rely on rumors.
Dik
jacquie0 - 12 Jan 2005 03:15 GMT >>Red Cross complaints in the wake of 9/11 were well documented in the days > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Dik Amen to that.
equalizer - 01 Jan 2005 23:19 GMT >>Nobody says that you or any body else should take my word for it. I >>would think that an organization such as the Red Cross would be an [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Also ask those who were less than satisfied with the Red Cross in the >wake of 9/11. Wow, jacquie0, sounds like your buddy Amy, who you were so vehemently defending, just zinged you one, LOL!!!!
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>----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- >http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups >---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- jacquie0 - 02 Jan 2005 04:30 GMT >>>Nobody says that you or any body else should take my word for it. I >>>would think that an organization such as the Red Cross would be an [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups >>---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- I never said that Amy was my buddy, I just agreed with a comment that she had made in a previous post. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and just because I agree or disagree, does not mean that they are my buddy or my enemy.
jacquie0 - 02 Jan 2005 04:25 GMT >>Nobody says that you or any body else should take my word for it. I >>would think that an organization such as the Red Cross would be an [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups > ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- Maybe I am being "ignorant" about this but, could it be that the Canadian Red Cross and the American Red Cross do things differently? My father and grandfather were both veterans of WW2 and were quite pleased with the way the Red Cross behaved towards them as well as their fellow comrades. (Just to clarify things.....they belonged to the Netherlands military at the time.) I have never heard of any negative reports about the Red Cross here. I also wasn't personally involved in 9/11, and although I felt badly about what happened, I can't speak ill about something that I know little to nothing about. Sure, I read about it in the newspapers, saw it on television, and heard people talking about it all the time, however, since I wasn't there, and the fact that I didn't personally know anyone involved, I couldn't imagine what it must have felt like. I guess that I am fortunate to have been spared such personal pain.
equalizer - 01 Jan 2005 23:06 GMT <SNIP>
>>>To all those who are so set on sending the Tsunami victims money, BE >>>CAREFUL!!!!! In a news group called "Slashdot", it has come to the [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >lonely for you. That's too bad. You seem like an intelligent person who >could be of some great assistance to those who lack the understanding. Sorry about the way you feel Jauquie. No One "crapped on my cornflakes" this morning. You felt compelled to make a comment on a thread I was involved in, I made a response. You apparently have nothing to come back with beyond a tired old USENET lame about someone who calls you with something you can't respond to must have a problem. So be it. Sorry about the bluntness. I've been on USENET for close to 20 years. I've seen it all. I get right to the point now....
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agent smith - 02 Jan 2005 02:04 GMT uhm, usenet hasnt been around for almost 20 years... 15 tops.
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jacquie0 - 02 Jan 2005 04:30 GMT > uhm, usenet hasnt been around for almost 20 years... 15 tops. > > -agent smith Agent Smith.....It doesn't really matter how long usenet has been around, I got equalizers point. I believe that is what he was trying to accomplish and guess what.....I understood that.
equalizer - 02 Jan 2005 11:39 GMT >> uhm, usenet hasnt been around for almost 20 years... 15 tops. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >around, I got equalizers point. I believe that is what he was trying to >accomplish and guess what.....I understood that. Sorry for piggy-backing your post Jacquie -- for some reason my server isn't carrying "agent smith's" posts. I guess it has good taste.....
In any case:
http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html
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jacquie0 - 02 Jan 2005 15:22 GMT >>>uhm, usenet hasnt been around for almost 20 years... 15 tops. >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > eq Not a problem EQ. Could you have possibly blocked agents post in the past? If in fact you did, it was one of the smartest things that you could have done. You're not missing much of anything that he/she has to say. In case you are curious, agent smith said that "usenet has only been around for 15 years tops." Glad to see that he/she will have to eat their words for a change. Thanks.....you've made my day.
equalizer - 02 Jan 2005 15:38 GMT >Not a problem EQ. Could you have possibly blocked agents post in the >past? If in fact you did, it was one of the smartest things that you >could have done. You're not missing much of anything that he/she has to >say. In case you are curious, agent smith said that "usenet has only >been around for 15 years tops." Glad to see that he/she will have to eat >their words for a change. Thanks.....you've made my day. No, I checked and he's not in my killfile. For some reason his posts aren't on my server, I'm seeing other's replies to him, but not his posts. Lucky him......
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Mary - 02 Jan 2005 16:52 GMT > > uhm, usenet hasnt been around for almost 20 years... 15 tops. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > around, I got equalizers point. I believe that is what he was trying to > accomplish and guess what.....I understood that. Ding ding ding! Jacquie aces the IQ test that "Agent Smith" has miserably failed! ;)
Mary - 02 Jan 2005 16:50 GMT > uhm, usenet hasnt been around for almost 20 years... 15 tops. > > -agent smith Idiot.
Amy Gray - 01 Jan 2005 23:14 GMT >>>To all those who are so set on sending the Tsunami victims money, BE >>>CAREFUL!!!!! It should be pointed out in instances like this con-artists come out of the wood work to fleece people out of their money.
Check with your state government. Some states require charities to file paperwork saying how much of the donations go to the cause in question.
There are legit charities out there, there are also some frauds out there. Be aware of who you donate to.
A good place to start: http://www.google.com/tsunami_relief.html
equalizer - 01 Jan 2005 23:32 GMT >>>>To all those who are so set on sending the Tsunami victims money, BE >>>>CAREFUL!!!!! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >A good place to start: >http://www.google.com/tsunami_relief.html Yep -- we ALL should beware fraud online. Like, or instance, accepting that you're a judge and you're name is Amy Gray, because this is USENET and you say so, LOL!!!
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>Nobody says that you or any body else should take my word for it. I >would think that an organization such as the Red Cross would be an [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >lonely for you. That's too bad. You seem like an intelligent person who >could be of some great assistance to those who lack the understanding. I'm sorry how I came across Jacquie. As I said, I was posting in Amy's style to make a point. I held myself in character a bit too long -- sorry! The fact that you made the above comments while I was in that character, along with the zinger that you just received from Amy about the Red Cross, should tell you why I made the comments to her that I did, which you picked up on. Do some forensics -- check out the chronology of the posts in which she responded to me to the point where you responded, to the response I made about copying her posting style, followed by her zinger against you, and I think you'll start to see the pattern.
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Mary - 02 Jan 2005 16:45 GMT > > It's not necessary that you believe in karma as long as the critter that > > takes a chunk out of your butt does. ;) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -agent smith It's "touche'" cretin.
A tip for you: if you are not sure you can spell it, don't use it.
Mary - 02 Jan 2005 16:43 GMT > It's not necessary that you believe in karma as long as the critter that takes a chunk out of your butt does. ;)
> :) Very nicely put. :)
Mimi Forsyth - 30 Dec 2004 05:44 GMT << that very few if any wildlife were effected. The speculation
>is the wildlife detected the disaster was coming >and fled the area. One way Californians know about earthquakes before the official warnings: look at the "lost dog" ads in the newspaper. Dogs who can, run away.
www.mimiforsyth.com
jacquie0 - 30 Dec 2004 06:51 GMT > << that very few if any wildlife were effected. The speculation > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > www.mimiforsyth.com I always know if we are in for a good snow fall, rain fall, or really cold weather. How? My cats both curl up into the smallest possible position with their tails wrapped around their bodies, and covering their faces. So, whenever I see this, (usually a day in advance), I check my pantry, fridge supplies, and my candle/battery supplies to see if I need to stock up. If for some reason I need to replenish, I go out to get what ever is needed. They haven't failed me yet, and I am always prepared. IMHO, they are the greatest weather predictors.
Amy Gray - 30 Dec 2004 16:12 GMT >> One way Californians know about earthquakes before the official warnings: look >> at the "lost dog" ads in the newspaper. Dogs who can, run away. Anyone in California know if this is true?
jacquie0 - 30 Dec 2004 21:28 GMT >>>One way Californians know about earthquakes before the official warnings: look >>>at the "lost dog" ads in the newspaper. Dogs who can, run away. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups > ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- Amy..... Animal Planet did a documentary on animal esp, and sure enough, they did take a look at the local newspaper ads to see if just before major storms, earthquakes, tornados, etc, dog and cat missing ads were increased. Amazing isn't it?
Olaf Gustafson - 06 Jan 2005 17:21 GMT >>>>One way Californians know about earthquakes before the official warnings: look >>>>at the "lost dog" ads in the newspaper. Dogs who can, run away. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >major storms, earthquakes, tornados, etc, dog and cat missing ads were >increased. Amazing isn't it? I find it amazing that they would look at local newspaper ads and not mention whether there was some correlation between them and coming earthquakes.
Are there any non-entertainment studies that show this?
Sounds like junk science to me.
leo@1starnet.com - 31 Dec 2004 04:56 GMT I really think they are more sensitive to any atmospheric or planitarium change like maybe barometric pressure. My horses used to winney more and get restless before a bad storm and my old Miss Kitty disapears well before we hear the thunder and hides behind the commode in an interior bathroom on the southwest side of the house. leo/lee
Sherry - 05 Jan 2005 04:49 GMT >I really think they are more sensitive to any atmospheric or >planitarium change like maybe barometric pressure. My horses used to >winney more and get restless before a bad storm and my old Miss Kitty >disapears well before we hear the thunder and hides behind the commode >in an interior bathroom on the southwest side of the house. >leo/lee I agree with you. Cows get really stupid right before a storm. I always suspected it was because they're sensitive to changes in barometric pressure, but I really don't know.
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Mary - 06 Jan 2005 07:34 GMT > >I really think they are more sensitive to any atmospheric or > >planitarium change like maybe barometric pressure. My horses used to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > suspected it was because they're sensitive to changes in barometric pressure, > but I really don't know. Wow. How exactly do you tell a smart cow from a stupid cow?
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M.C. Mullen - 06 Jan 2005 17:10 GMT | > >I really think they are more sensitive to any atmospheric or | > >planitarium change like maybe barometric pressure. My horses used to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] | | ;) Easy, I was to help the farmer's daughter put the cows into the stable because the farmer was ill. They deliberately went to the wrong places and caused a real mess.
Then the farmer arrived on the scene, stood there, asked in a loud voice: What's going on here? Imagine, they all went to their places immediately ...! Smart cows :-)
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Mary - 06 Jan 2005 22:44 GMT > | > >I really think they are more sensitive to any atmospheric or > | > >planitarium change like maybe barometric pressure. My horses used to [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Carola Ahhh. I am handicapped by a life in the city, only visiting the country. Neat story.
Sherry - 21 Jan 2005 02:19 GMT >Wow. How exactly do you tell a smart cow from a stupid cow? > >;) LOL! It's a pretty subtle difference :-) They won't come up to eat. They walk around bawling like there's something they should be doing, but they don't know what it is.
Mary - 21 Jan 2005 06:05 GMT > >Wow. How exactly do you tell a smart cow from a stupid cow? > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > They won't come up to eat. They walk around bawling like there's something they > should be doing, but they don't know what it is. Ooo. I'm not saying he does, but what if my husband does this? ;)
Sherry - 21 Jan 2005 06:17 GMT >> LOL! It's a pretty subtle difference :-) >> They won't come up to eat. They walk around bawling like there's something [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Ooo. I'm not saying he does, but what if my >husband does this? ;) Turn on the weather channel and see if there's a pattern. :-)
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Mary - 21 Jan 2005 18:50 GMT > >> LOL! It's a pretty subtle difference :-) > >> They won't come up to eat. They walk around bawling like there's something [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > Turn on the weather channel and see if there's a pattern. :-) lol!
Usenet Observer - 02 Jan 2005 09:41 GMT DrWoodardOnDS@hotmail.com wrote on 29 Dec 2004 23:04:55 GMT:
> While the death toll in the Tsunami is reaching 76,000 it now > appears that very few if any wildlife were effected. The speculation > is the wildlife detected the disaster was coming > and fled the area. One of the most interesting threads found to date on usenet. Thanks to all those who contributed and make Usenet a worthwhile place to visit.
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