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Zythophile - 26 Dec 2004 21:27 GMT
I've just come across the term "calico cat". I've done a quick web search
and I think it's a synonym for tortoiseshell. Is that right?

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Judy - 26 Dec 2004 22:10 GMT
> I've just come across the term "calico cat". I've done a quick web search
> and I think it's a synonym for tortoiseshell. Is that right?

Calico: A coat pattern with patches of white and more prominent red and
black or cream and blue markings.

Tortoiseshell: A coat pattern typically marked by both black and red fur in
deep coats or blue and cream fur in dilute coats.
Jodie - 26 Dec 2004 22:50 GMT
I've had both Calico and Torties.  Calicos have bigger patches of white,
orange, black or brown, with Tabby markings, while Torties have more of a
Brindle pattern, like Black interspersed with orange, brown and tan colours.
My Bonnie is mostly black shot with orange, tan and brown.

Here's pictures of Calicos
http://cats.about.com/cs/justpictures/l/blflavor_julyc.htm

and Torties:
http://www.vegasthecat.com/readerphotos.3.html

many people still lump Torties into the Calico category.  But they are
different!

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> > I've just come across the term "calico cat". I've done a quick web search
> > and I think it's a synonym for tortoiseshell. Is that right?
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>  Tortoiseshell: A coat pattern typically marked by both black and red fur in
> deep coats or blue and cream fur in dilute coats.
Zythophile - 26 Dec 2004 23:15 GMT
> I've had both Calico and Torties.  Calicos have bigger patches of white,
> orange, black or brown, with Tabby markings, while Torties have more of a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Here's pictures of Calicos
> http://cats.about.com/cs/justpictures/l/blflavor_julyc.htm

Jessie & Pippa are very much like my Mogwai, except my Mogwai has more white
on her. Her vaccination certificate from the vet describes her as
white/tortoiseshell; maybe she's really calico. In fact I called her Mogwai
'cos she looks a bit like Gizmo from "Gremlins" (her sister is a bad
tempered little black cat that I call "Gremlin")
Amy Gray - 26 Dec 2004 23:48 GMT
>Jessie & Pippa are very much like my Mogwai, except my Mogwai has more white
>on her. Her vaccination certificate from the vet describes her as
>white/tortoiseshell; maybe she's really calico. In fact I called her Mogwai
>'cos she looks a bit like Gizmo from "Gremlins" (her sister is a bad
>tempered little black cat that I call "Gremlin")

And of course you can't feed her after midnight and you can't get
her wet.

For those who never Gremlins this is what Gizmo looked like:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0790742314/104-5497550-8711144?v=glance
Gremlins was a fun movie, (has it really been twenty years?)
Zythophile - 26 Dec 2004 23:54 GMT
>>Jessie & Pippa are very much like my Mogwai, except my Mogwai has more
>>white
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> And of course you can't feed her after midnight and you can't get
> her wet.

Strangely, the Mogwai loves water. My daughter thinks that she must have
some Turkish Van in her ancestry. The Gremlin shows the normal catty hatred
of all things wet.
Tom Adkins - 28 Dec 2004 07:18 GMT
> Jessie & Pippa are very much like my Mogwai, except my Mogwai has more white
> on her. Her vaccination certificate from the vet describes her as
> white/tortoiseshell; maybe she's really calico. In fact I called her Mogwai
> 'cos she looks a bit like Gizmo from "Gremlins" (her sister is a bad
> tempered little black cat that I call "Gremlin")

Zythophile,
 My ex has a Grey male Persian named Gizmo, after the Mogwai. The colors arent the
same but his facial expression is exact for "The" Gizmo. Maybe you should call the
black one "Spike".

In response to the OP. I've been told that a Tabby cat has a W like marking on the
forehead between the eyes. Also that Male Tabbys are rare? I have no idea of the
validity of this info, maybe a wives tale?

            Regards, Tom
RobsSanta - 26 Dec 2004 23:56 GMT
Calico's are more moody and I have been told that all calicos are female, I
don't know if that is also true of torties.

Rob

> I've had both Calico and Torties.  Calicos have bigger patches of white,
> orange, black or brown, with Tabby markings, while Torties have more of a
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> in
> > deep coats or blue and cream fur in dilute coats.
Zythophile - 27 Dec 2004 00:02 GMT
> Calico's are more moody and I have been told that all calicos are female,
> I
> don't know if that is also true of torties.
>
> Rob

All torties are female. Therfore, I'd assume that all calicos are female
too. I think it's got something to do with the fact that colour is carried
on the X gene. As fenale cats (like all mammals) have two X genes, they can
have a wider colour variation than male cats. In fact, I remember my father
saying that he'd never seen a ginger queen until he moved from Yorkshire to
Cornwall. Now that I'm living in Wales, all the ginger cats I know are male,
but I grew up in Cornwall with a 50/50 slit of male and female ginger cats.
Is there something weird going on with Cornish cats?
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RobsSanta - 27 Dec 2004 06:41 GMT
>> Now that I'm living in Wales, all the ginger cats I know are male, but I
grew up in Cornwall with a 50/50 slit of male and female ginger cats.

I was in the same, in N.Ireland all the gingers were male but still I moved
to the states, the gingers are about 75% male

Rob

> > Calico's are more moody and I have been told that all calicos are female,
> > I
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> but I grew up in Cornwall with a 50/50 slit of male and female ginger cats.
> Is there something weird going on with Cornish cats?
Amy Gray - 27 Dec 2004 17:42 GMT
>Calico's are more moody and I have been told that all calicos are female, I
>don't know if that is also true of torties.
I have a calico, my understanding is 95% of calicos are female.  

I haven't noticed my calico to be more moody.  
Linda Terrell - 27 Dec 2004 10:58 GMT
> I've had both Calico and Torties.  Calicos have bigger patches of white,
> orange, black or brown, with Tabby markings, while Torties have more of a
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> Jodie
> jodie75@sympatico.ca

To me, a tortie coat should look pretty much like a
tortoise shell comb or hair barrett. Which is where the term
originated, I believe.

LT
M.C. Mullen - 27 Dec 2004 14:58 GMT
| To me, a tortie coat should look pretty much like a
| tortoise shell comb or hair barrett. Which is where the term
| originated, I believe.
|
| LT

Oh no, not at all, that's not enough! The neighbour's tortie is a real
terror, she even chased our dog into our kitchen :-)
And she's spoiled rotten. My last vet said that torties are very difficult
in behaviour and hard to vaccinate ... (probably very smart and cunning?)
Well, I better stay with my tuxedos ...

Carola
jacquie0 - 27 Dec 2004 08:25 GMT
> I've just come across the term "calico cat". I've done a quick web search
> and I think it's a synonym for tortoiseshell. Is that right?

A calico cat is a white based cat usually with orange, brown and black
markings on it. They are mostly female, but there have been known to be
a few calico males out there. A tortoise shell is a black based cat with
orange and brown markings on it. It doesn't have any white on it at all.
 Again, these cats are mostly females, but again, there have been known
to be a few tortoise shell males out there.
Amanda Jones - 30 Dec 2004 01:31 GMT
> A tortoise shell is a black based cat
> with orange and brown markings on it. It doesn't have any white on it
> at all.   Again, these cats are mostly females, but again, there have
> been known to be a few tortoise shell males out there.

I think usage of the term may vary - I've never heard of "calico" cats (in
London and SE England), and my parents have a tortoishell cat, universally
described thus including by our vet. She has white paws, a white patch on
her tummy, and black, orange and brown patches over the rest of her.

Amanda

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