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Rik Brooks - 04 Jan 2004 11:18 GMT
I want to buy a pet. I'm looking for a large cat and one that is very
affectionate. I want a cat that wants to be petted, preferrably wants to sit
in my lap and sleep in my bed. One that purrs loudly and is big and warm. It
has to use the litter box because I want it to be an indoor cat.

Anyone have any suggestions for the best breed?

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Chris Street - 04 Jan 2004 11:56 GMT
>I want to buy a pet. I'm looking for a large cat and one that is very
>affectionate. I want a cat that wants to be petted, preferrably wants to sit
>in my lap and sleep in my bed. One that purrs loudly and is big and warm. It
>has to use the litter box because I want it to be an indoor cat.
>
>Anyone have any suggestions for the best breed?

One from the nearest shelter.
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Rik Brooks - 04 Jan 2004 16:10 GMT
> >Anyone have any suggestions for the best breed?
>
> One from the nearest shelter.

I'm amazed.

While I recognize that animals in shelters need help - I am not willing to
go to the extent of adopting a pet from them. I don't 'rescue' my family
members. I didn't get my wife from a homeless shelter. Why should I adopt my
pet from the feline equivalent? I am more than willing and able to support
my local breeders, don't they deserve support as well?

I know that there are certain things that can be said about each breed. I
know that nothing is set in stone or guaranteed but I feel safe to say that
if I buy a Maine Coon I will get a bigger cat than if I had bought a
Persian. If I buy a Siamese then it is likely that I will get a more playful
cat than a Persian.

Is anyone here able to answer my question without getting on a soap-box
please, please?
Ted Davis - 04 Jan 2004 17:28 GMT
>> >Anyone have any suggestions for the best breed?
>>
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>Is anyone here able to answer my question without getting on a soap-box
>please, please?

Ok, here's what you do.  Find a breeder who will guarantee - money
back if not satisfied - that a specific kitten will grow up to have
the personality you want.  That breeder is dishonest, so scratch him
off your list.  Keep trying until you have a list of breeders who will
not guarantee the future, then pick one at random and pick a kitten at
random from that breeder.  This way you will have a no worse than
random chance of getting what you want, but will at least know that
the breeder is not totally corrupt.

If I wanted a particular kind of adult cat, I would go looking for
that kind of adult cat, and the places to find a specific kind of cat
are the pets ads in newspapers, on radio station chat shows, on local
web ad boards, and of course, in shelters - you can no more predict
what a kitten will grow up to be than you can predict what a child
will grow up to be, but you can tell a lot about what an adult is when
you meet it in person.

Saying that you wouldn't rescue family members means you would not
rescue an orphaned niece or nephew by taking him/her into your home.
It means you would never adopt a child in need. It says to me that
perhaps you are too cold hearted to get along well with cats and
perhaps should drop the whole idea - clearly you expect the cat to be
something that cats really aren't: you seem to be something of a hot
tempered control freak, and cats would just make you even more
miserable since they can't be controlled and will retaliate against
hot tempers.

T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body)
Sherry - 04 Jan 2004 18:10 GMT
>I'm amazed.
>
>While I recognize that animals in shelters need help - I am not willing to
>go to the extent of adopting a pet from them.

You don't ask for a specific breed. You simply have a list of specific
personality traits you want. So why *not* check out a shelter?  Shelter workers
interact with the cats every day. They get to know each individual personality.
All you have to do is ask them. Buying from a breeder doesn't guarantee the
traits you want anyway.

Sherry
Kalyahna - 04 Jan 2004 18:48 GMT
> I am more than willing and able to support my local breeders, don't they
deserve support
> as well?

Ah. I don't make enough money at my job. Please give me money. I deserve
support.

> Is anyone here able to answer my question without getting on a soap-box
> please, please?

Only if you're open-minded, which the question proves you're not.
Chris Street - 05 Jan 2004 21:51 GMT
>> >Anyone have any suggestions for the best breed?
>>
>> One from the nearest shelter.
>
>I'm amazed.

I'm not. You asked the wrong question - your set of requirements is not
specific to an individual breed - however it may be specific to an
individual cat. Hence going to a shelter will let you try out a series
of cats and you may be able to find one that fits your requirements.

>While I recognize that animals in shelters need help - I am not willing to
>go to the extent of adopting a pet from them. I don't 'rescue' my family
>members.

You wouldn't offer a brother or sister a bed for a few days if their
house burnt down? I'm amazed.

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Wendy - 06 Jan 2004 00:55 GMT
> >Anyone have any suggestions for the best breed?
>
> One from the nearest shelter.

I'm amazed.

While I recognize that animals in shelters need help - I am not willing to
go to the extent of adopting a pet from them. I don't 'rescue' my family
members. I didn't get my wife from a homeless shelter. Why should I adopt my
pet from the feline equivalent? I am more than willing and able to support
my local breeders, don't they deserve support as well?

I know that there are certain things that can be said about each breed. I
know that nothing is set in stone or guaranteed but I feel safe to say that
if I buy a Maine Coon I will get a bigger cat than if I had bought a
Persian. If I buy a Siamese then it is likely that I will get a more playful
cat than a Persian.

Is anyone here able to answer my question without getting on a soap-box
please, please?

You can't really anticipate what the cats personality will be like from the
breed. I've heard people say that calico cats are stand-offish but I have
one who's a real pet-me  pet-me purr monster.  She "adopted" the kittens we
found abandoned outside last fall and still mothers the one we kept.

Our kitten is a sketch. He's not going to be very large I suspect but he's
an incurable lap cat. When he's not sleeping curled up with his "foster mom"
he's either dragging his toy mice over for us to play with him or insisting
someone make room on their lap.

We had an absolutely huge very pretty DLH who really didn't like being
around people. He hid under the bed for most of the time. We loved him
anyway.

I still miss my part persian SPCA cat. He looked a sight when we brought him
home. He was dumped at the SPCA because of fleas. He wasn't a lap cat but
slept on the bed with us and couldn't resist a wiggling toe. That poor
matted scruffy looking cat ended up as an absolutely magnificent goof ball.
I'll miss him forever.

If you want to buy a cat then contact some breeders.

You may also want to check out www.petfinder.org many organizations give you
a little background on the cats and tell you a little about their
personality. You can find all kinds of cats there and can do a search for
cats fitting your breed, size, gender and age preferences. However, they are
shelter cats.  Just keep in mind all shelter cats aren't there because they
were behavior problems. Like I said our Fluffer had fleas (easy enough to
take care of). There are others who have gotten booted out of their homes
when they get pregnant (easy enough to take care of - they do know what
causes that) or others who's owners have died or moved into housing where
they cant' take their animals. Others have been turned over to the shelter
because a family member was allergic.

No matter where you get your cat there is no guarantee that it will meet all
your requirements. If you spend your money to buy one from a breeder what
will you do if it doesn't purr loud enough or doesn't grow to be as large as
you want?

If people got a little testy with you it might be because you sound like you
consider shelter cats not as good as ones from a breeder. In most cases the
only thing not as good about a shelter cat was the previous owner.

W
-L. - 06 Jan 2004 07:32 GMT
> > >Anyone have any suggestions for the best breed?
> >
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> While I recognize that animals in shelters need help - I am not willing to
> go to the extent of adopting a pet from them.

I pity you.

>I don't 'rescue' my family
> members. I didn't get my wife from a homeless shelter. Why should I adopt my
> pet from the feline equivalent?

Because there are many wonderful adoptable healthy cats and kittens
who need homes already - why support the breeding of more when
thousands are being killed daily?

>I am more than willing and able to support
> my local breeders, don't they deserve support as well?

No, actually they don't.  They contribute to an already overburdened
cat population.

> I know that there are certain things that can be said about each breed. I
> know that nothing is set in stone or guaranteed but I feel safe to say that
> if I buy a Maine Coon I will get a bigger cat than if I had bought a
> Persian.

Not necessarily.

> If I buy a Siamese then it is likely that I will get a more playful
> cat than a Persian.

Not necessarily.

> Is anyone here able to answer my question without getting on a soap-box
> please, please?

Plenty of people will answer you - you just don't want to hear what
they have to say.

> You can't really anticipate what the cats personality will be like from the
> breed.

Then why get a "purebred"?  For the looks?  How shallow.  Besides, you
can get a moggie with "purebred looks" - there are plenty of
Siamese-wannabees, Persian-wannabees, Main Coon-wannabees, etc.
already waiting on death row.

-L.
Mogie - 07 Jan 2004 02:18 GMT
I have found that most characteristics atributed to a breed are just a
guideline.

We adopted an 2 year old tom cat. Nobody wanted him because he sprayed.
After getting him fixed he quit spraying and became a big lap cat. He is the
sweetest thing.

Cats like people vary and the only way to really find out is to go to the
humane society and spend time with different cats. You will find the one
that's right for you.

> > >Anyone have any suggestions for the best breed?
> >
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>
> W
Agua Girl - 06 Jan 2004 05:42 GMT
> > >Anyone have any suggestions for the best breed?
> >
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> pet from the feline equivalent? I am more than willing and able to support
> my local breeders, don't they deserve support as well?

I think your a bit of a snob <G> (no malice intended).  Seriously,
cats in shelters or with rescue groups aren't damaged or irregular
merchandise.  They are just as good as cat's bred in Beverly Hills.
The only reason most suggested to go to a rescue group is because
you were looking for personality traits, not specific physical traits.
It's much easier to peg what kind of personality a year old cat is going
to have (and how big it will be) than to guess that of a 10 week old
kitten which is the age most breeders sell their cats.  Just seems like
you are more likely to get what you want.

> I know that there are certain things that can be said about each breed. I
> know that nothing is set in stone or guaranteed but I feel safe to say that
> if I buy a Maine Coon I will get a bigger cat than if I had bought a
> Persian. If I buy a Siamese then it is likely that I will get a more playful
> cat than a Persian.

True, one breed will give you better odds of getting a specific trait
over another breed but if you want killer odds you will read the
suggestions offered you more carefully.

> Is anyone here able to answer my question without getting on a soap-box
> please, please?

I did.  I even told you that I didn't have an issue with people buying
pure breds over adopting strays since ALL cats need good homes.
But like everyone else in here I know the best odds of getting an
absolute type of personality is to get one that has an established
and well known personality...and by "one" I mean one cat, not one
breed.   BTW...I have a friend with a Persian that plays all the time.
She says he is a freak of nature because she wanted a lazy cat that
sat in her rocker and looked cool when she got him (although she
brags about his antics all the time)

AG
M.C. Mullen - 04 Jan 2004 12:35 GMT
Please don't get fixed with a breed. In every breed you'll find all kinds of
personalities.
How about taking two hours off and watching the cats in the shelter?
Like that we got exactly the cat we wanted.
If you get a kitten you might end up with the most beautiful cat with a
different character you wanted, because with kittens it's really hard to
tell what they will be like when they are grown up.

Carola

| I want to buy a pet. I'm looking for a large cat and one that is very
| affectionate. I want a cat that wants to be petted, preferrably wants to sit
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| Rik Brooks
| Author, Columnist, Lecturer
Orchid - 04 Jan 2004 17:11 GMT
>I want to buy a pet. I'm looking for a large cat and one that is very
>affectionate. I want a cat that wants to be petted, preferrably wants to sit
>in my lap and sleep in my bed. One that purrs loudly and is big and warm. It
>has to use the litter box because I want it to be an indoor cat.
>
>Anyone have any suggestions for the best breed?

    Well, that's a very diverse set of requirements.  Maine Coons
are large and affectionate, but they are not lap cats as a rule.  They
like to 'hang out' with you and 'help'.  Bengals are also large and
affectionate, but they are *way* too active for what you are
describing.  Ragdolls have a tendancy to be lap cats, and are
reasonably large.
    Purr volume is not a characteristic that is bred for in any
way, so that's *completely* luck of the draw.  Any kitten raised
indoors and socialised properly will use the litterbox, though every
cat in the world has made mistakes.
    While it is good to have specific wants if you're looking for
a purebred, you can get a little too specific.  Temperament is
inherited, and thus can be bred for -- personality is unique, and is
luck of the draw.  While Maine Coons are not usually lap cats, there
are a few who are.  While Bengals tend to love to swim, some don't
like water.  Personality overrides temperament, and, unfortunately, a
lot of your requirements are more personality than temperament.

    You might do best to look at getting an adult rescue cat,
either moggie or from a purebred rescue group, or even a retired
show/breeding cat.  That way the cat will have a fully formed
personality, and you'll be able to make your decision based on fact
instead of the supposition that is involved with a kitten, even the
most responsibly bred and socialised kitten.

Orchid
See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Want a Purebred Cat?  Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
Rik Brooks - 28 Feb 2004 16:49 GMT
OH MY GAWD!!!! Thank you, Orchid for that wealth of information. I'm
remembering when I bought a purebred Cocker Spaniel decades ago. The poor
thing simply would not be house broken. Every time that I came home he would
run around in circles and spray everywhere. When I complained about this to
a friend he said, "What are you talking about? Didn't you know that most
Cockers do that until they are quite old?"

No, I didn't know that and this time I thought I would ask first. You've
given me useful information, Orchid. I can at least go and look up the
breeds that you mentioned and read more about each.

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> >I want to buy a pet. I'm looking for a large cat and one that is very
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> See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
> Want a Purebred Cat?  Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
Mogie - 28 Feb 2004 18:32 GMT
Go to our local shelter. There you can hand pick the perfect cat for you.
You will also be saving a life.

> OH MY GAWD!!!! Thank you, Orchid for that wealth of information. I'm
> remembering when I bought a purebred Cocker Spaniel decades ago. The poor
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> > See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
> > Want a Purebred Cat?  Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
Orchid - 28 Feb 2004 19:15 GMT
>OH MY GAWD!!!! Thank you, Orchid for that wealth of information.

    Glad I could help.  :)

>I'm
>remembering when I bought a purebred Cocker Spaniel decades ago. The poor
>thing simply would not be house broken. Every time that I came home he would
>run around in circles and spray everywhere. When I complained about this to
>a friend he said, "What are you talking about? Didn't you know that most
>Cockers do that until they are quite old?"

    It's called submissive urination, and it's extremely common in
Cockers.  It's not lack of housebreaking, it's a behavioural issue --
Cockers tend to be *extremely* submissive, and when their pack alphas
get home (their people) they tend to get overexcited and show thier
submission by peeing.  Perfectly common and correct in the dog book of
manners, not so good for people.

>No, I didn't know that and this time I thought I would ask first. You've
>given me useful information, Orchid. I can at least go and look up the
>breeds that you mentioned and read more about each.

    Have fun with your research, but I still think your best bet
is to go with an adult cat.  Kittens are always somewhat of a
crapshoot because they don't have fully formed personalities.  Go with
an adult cat from a rescue group that uses foster homes instead of a
shelter, and tell them what you're looking for.  They'll be able to
match you with a cat that will fit your bill.  :)

Orchid
See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Want a Purebred Cat?  Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
JoJo - 29 Feb 2004 19:05 GMT
Go to your local shelter and get a cat from there.  They come in a variety
of shapes and sizes.  Do you want an adult or a kitten?  Kittens can change
their personalities, while adults are pretty much "developed".  You should
be able to find a cat at your local shelter to fit your needs.  Try to use a
shelter that fosters out cats - this means that the cats have spent time in
a foster home, and the foster parents have worked with them to keep them
social.   And just an idea - for some reason males seem to be the most
affectionate, although females can be too.  I have a calico who is moody as
can be - one minute she's sweet as pie, next minute she's PMS'ing (she's
fixed) - I've heard that's the way calico's are, so you may not want to look
at a calico.  Good luck in your search.

And any time you introduce a new feline to your house, do it slowly so they
know where to find the litter box!
> OH MY GAWD!!!! Thank you, Orchid for that wealth of information. I'm
> remembering when I bought a purebred Cocker Spaniel decades ago. The poor
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> > See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
> > Want a Purebred Cat?  Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
Dik F. Liu - 04 Jan 2004 19:27 GMT
> I'm looking for a large cat and one that is very
>affectionate. I want a cat that wants to be petted, preferrably wants to sit
>in my lap and sleep in my bed. One that purrs loudly and is big and warm. It
>has to use the litter box because I want it to be an indoor cat.

That's going to be a tough choice, Rik. Many of the larger cats - Maine Coons,
Ragdolls, etc. are not known to be lap cats. That said, I have known two Maine
Coons who are truly lap cats - but I think they are well socialized by their
breeder. Their human actually complains that her legs would fall asleep because
the cats are so heavy. Many larger long hair cats don't like warm laps because
they are too warm for them. Most cats would want to be near you, and be petted,
and sleep next to you - so long that the cats were raised responsibly and that
you treat them well.

The cats having a reputation of being lap cats are the Burmese, Korats, and
Devon Rex. Korats requires a lot of attention and are not suited as the only
cat in a household where the humans work full-time. (I should know. I have one
napping on my lap as I type.) The Burmese are nice cats. I have only seen the
Devon Rex in cat books and magazines. These are all small cats, however,
although the males are bigger than the females.

When you are looking for a cat, aside from the breed you want to know how the
individual cat is raised. This especially if you are looking for a cat of a
particular temperament. If you want an affectionate cat, you will want one that
is raise "underfoot", and not caged. Also, be sure that it is from a small
cattery, and that the cat has much human contact between their 3rd to 9th week.
That's when cats learn to socialize with humans. It is very important to
interview the breeder, and visit the cattery and play with the cat before
adopting it. Go to a cat show and talk to the breeders - it's a good place to
start.

With purebreds, you do get more predictable temperament. But it still varies
from cat to cat. Also, remember that kittens behave very differently from adult
cats. So one option is to adopt an adult cat from a breeder. There are many
rescue groups for purebreds.

By the way, you needn't worry about the cats using the litter box and being
indoor. A responsible breeder wouldn't sell you a kitten until it is at least
12 to 16 weeks old; and by then the kitten would know how to use the litter
box.  Many breeders require you to sign a contract that the cat would never be
outdoor.

Hope this helps,

Dik
dd - 04 Jan 2004 19:53 GMT
Persian cats are the ultimate lap fungus and very docile, BUT they have
some genetic-linked problems, so you could be in for big vet bills down
the road. Like all long-haired cats, they require a lot of grooming. I
don't care for their squished-in faces, but that's a personal
preference.

A British Blue is a nice husky cat and very intelligent too. They look
like teddy bears. They shed a lot though, if that is a consideration.

I'd recommend that you not get a kitten because they take a long time
to settle down and become lap cats (or not). With an adult cat, what
you see is what you get.

I have a cat that appears to be a Lynx-Point Burmese that I got from a
shelter.  (The owner's landlord made her give him up.) He sounds just
like what you want, except he's not much for purring. I also have a
Russian Blue (also a shelter cat) that is very affectionate and has an
incredibly  sweet disposition, but he's a lap cat only when I'm sitting
in front of the computer or at my desk. He is an incredibly smart
little beast and hardly sheds at all. He likes to play fetch and ride
around the house on our shoulders.

Actually, there are a lot of purebred cats at shelters. Owners dump
them because it turns out that someone is the house was allergic.
Breeders dump kittens they can't sell because the fur color or whatever
is not show quality. So, don't rule out looking at shelter cats.

One cat that I'd recommend that you avoid is a Siamese--they can be
neurotic and unpredictable and destructive. They also have a lot of
genetic-linked health problems.

Also, get a neutered male cat instead of a female. In my
experience,male cats are lot more affectionate.

Look for cat shows in your area so you can look at a lot of different
breeds and talk to breeders. You might be surprised at what you see.

Hope this helps.

> I want to buy a pet. I'm looking for a large cat and one that is very
> affectionate. I want a cat that wants to be petted, preferrably wants to sit
> in my lap and sleep in my bed. One that purrs loudly and is big and warm. It
> has to use the litter box because I want it to be an indoor cat.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions for the best breed?
Agua Girl - 04 Jan 2004 20:59 GMT
> I want to buy a pet. I'm looking for a large cat and one that is very
> affectionate. I want a cat that wants to be petted, preferrably wants to sit
> in my lap and sleep in my bed. One that purrs loudly and is big and warm. It
> has to use the litter box because I want it to be an indoor cat.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions for the best breed?

I am not up on cat breeds...now if you ask me about dogs <g>.
I just want to say that I had specific requirements about
attitude and traits when I went to adopt a cat.  I went to
a rescue group.  While pure-bred animals often have
genetic leanings towards one disposition or another...it's
never a guarantee.  The traits you want are just as available
in a non pure bred but you have to get one from someone
who knows the cat.  I don't have an issue with not adopting
from a shelter...pure bred cats need homes too..but I think
you might be surprised how easy it is to get a specific type
of cat from a shelter..or better yet, a rescue group.

Most of them interact with the cats on a daily basis.  Non
kill shelters have the animals for a long time and if you get
one that's about a year old that they have had for any length
of time they will know exactly what the cat is like.  They totally
pegged the one I adopted and she is absolutely the perfect
cat for me even with her less than perfect lineage.

AG
Luvskats00 - 05 Jan 2004 00:12 GMT
rik brooks rik@texasmob.com writes
>I want to buy a pet. I'm looking for a >large cat and one that is very
>affectionate. I want a cat that wants >to be petted, preferrably wants to sit
>in my lap and sleep in my bed. >One that purrs loudly and is big and warm.

I would suggest that you wrap a heating pad around an alarm clock and call it
Fluffy. There ya go.
Double Trouble - 05 Jan 2004 10:59 GMT
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> I would suggest that you wrap a heating pad around an alarm clock and call it
> Fluffy. There ya go.

LOL.............
Ok, now to my point of view on this subject:

You seem to be very controlling by your second post, as was stated already,
cats are ones who are going to control you.  they want what they want when
they want it, no questions asked repeated or snubbed!  They are very
independent, and will ask for the attention when they want it.  You can
train cats very easily though as they are extremely smart, but most people
don't have the patience to train them as they are extremely stubborn.

If you are truly into getting a feline, I suggest to go to your animal
shelter and look around for a few weeks, see what "adult" cat fits what you
describe.  You want something that you will never know about until they are
fully grown anyway.  Kittens change too much in their childhood to fully
know what their personality will be till they are about 2 years of age or
so.

My personal opinion......You need a "Dog!"  A very small dog, one that is
short haired and does not mind being with you all the time, like a
dachshund.

Good luck with your quest!
DD
M.C. Mullen - 05 Jan 2004 14:03 GMT
| My personal opinion......You need a "Dog!"  A very small dog, one that is
| short haired and does not mind being with you all the time, like a
| dachshund.
|
| Good luck with your quest!
| DD

I would go for a Jack Russell...
Double Trouble - 08 Jan 2004 06:33 GMT
> | My personal opinion......You need a "Dog!"  A very small dog, one that is
> | short haired and does not mind being with you all the time, like a
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>
> I would go for a Jack Russell...

NOOOOOOOOOO..........not one of those, unless you want your house torn to
shreds!!!!!!!!!  Take that from personal experience!  I had 2, and they are
the worse breed unless you have 100 times the patience of any one person
with the best patience.

My advice to you before you choose ANYTHING is to do research on the
different breeds you might be interested in.  That way, dog wise anyway, you
will know what you are getting into.

DD and Tigger

Jack Russell Terrier (Parson Russell *what they are now refered to)
http://www.jrtca.com
http://www.jackrussellterrier.com
There is a couple to get you started on that journey!  Good luck!
M.C. Mullen - 08 Jan 2004 18:17 GMT
| > | My personal opinion......You need a "Dog!"  A very small dog, one that
| is
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| http://www.jackrussellterrier.com
| There is a couple to get you started on that journey!  Good luck!

Well, I started the journey at the other end: I got a Jack Russell at a
shelter and *then* informed myself. I must say I found the perfect dog for
our family!
And all its JR friends are OK too :-)
We even won some prices at dog competitions, but we did attend some courses
about how to train a dog.

Carola
Binkertell The Unknown - 09 Jan 2004 02:18 GMT
OK, no soap-box here. Just personal experiece gained over many years. I
havd always gone to the pound for my kitties, as I'd always had great
luck there with both health and temperment. However once I had a
favorite animal die on me and I was heartbroken. I wanted to be sure as
possible to get an amimal as affectionate as she had been.

So I went to a breeder. The advertizement in Cat Fancy was for Honeybear
cats, which were supposed to be the "sweetest" cats. The breeder I
checked out was in town, and she raised all her animals inside her
lovely home. All looked clean and healthy, so I purchased one kitten.

Though I love this animal, and she has been quite long-lived, I must say
she has been the most stand-offish cat I've ever had. I will cry when
she's gone, but I'll never go for another special breed.

You see, I believe that the animals in the shelter can sense that the
people coming to take them home really love them, and are saving them
from a bad fate. Especially if you get a young kitten....it almost seems
as if they think you are their mother, and they get especially close to
you.

Those aren't made-up facts...just the way things have happened for me.
Currently I have 5 kitties. All are rescues except little Desiree' the
Honeybear who hides most of the time.

Hope you all don't mind me adding my 2 cents!

Bink

That which does not kill me had better run pretty damn fast.
Orchid - 09 Jan 2004 14:48 GMT
>OK, no soap-box here. Just personal experiece gained over many years. I
>havd always gone to the pound for my kitties, as I'd always had great
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>checked out was in town, and she raised all her animals inside her
>lovely home. All looked clean and healthy, so I purchased one kitten.

    Here's the first red flag -- 'Honeybear' cats aren't
recognised by any respected registries as a breed.  They're not even
trying to be recognised as a breed by any of the big three registries
(TICA, ACFA, CFA).  There is no breed standard, which means that there
is no goal to breeding.
    Second red flag is the ridiculous story of how the breed was
started.  I mean honestly, cats that have had skunk genes implanted in
them?  Not only is it patently ridiculous, but impossible --
transgenics of this nature are not yet possible in higher life forms.
    Third red flag -- a 'unique spinal anatomy'.  I'd have to see
some veterinary evidence that backs this up, but I'm inclined to cry
'bullshit'.

    All of these flags would seem to point to a 'scam breed', much
like 'cockapoos', 'labradoodles', and the various other poodle mixes
in the dog world.  In essence, I think you got taken.  :(

Orchid
See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Want a Purebred Cat?  Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
-L. - 06 Jan 2004 07:42 GMT
> I want to buy a pet. I'm looking for a large cat and one that is very
> affectionate. I want a cat that wants to be petted, preferrably wants to sit
> in my lap and sleep in my bed. One that purrs loudly and is big and warm. It
> has to use the litter box because I want it to be an indoor cat.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions for the best breed?

Moggies (mixed breed cats) at the Humane Society.  

My cat Peewee fits every requirement you requested.  No, you can't
have him. ;)  He came from the HS in Indianapolis, as a 5-week-old
kitten.  He was scrawny and funny-looking, but as cute and playful as
can be.  Today he is 12 years old, weighs 22 lbs and is long and
thick:

http://groups.msn.com/idontmindsCompanionAnimalConnection/shoebox.msnw?action=Sh
owPhoto&PhotoID=8


My favorite picture of him:

http://groups.msn.com/idontmindsCompanionAnimalConnection/shoebox.msnw?action=Sh
owPhoto&PhotoID=35


He has only had one serious illness in his life, and that was recently
when he suffered a bad bout with a giant hairball.  Other than that,
he has been ill-ness free - which is due, in part, to hybrid vigor.
Why buy a pedigreed cat who has been inbred and has had the genes for
illnesses enriched in its bloodline?

Besides, Peewee couldn't be more perfect, even if he had the best
pedigree in the world.

-L.
 
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