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Cat Forum / General Topics / November 2003Introduce 2 cats to new house
Hi everyone, We just moved two male cats from our apartment into a new split level home. They are not neutered. They were completely fine in the apartment, but now in the house, they stay on separate levels and make noises at each other when they are on the same level. Is this territorial behavior? Is there anything we can do to make the situation better? Granted, it has only been two days. They are brothers, both a little over a year old. Thanks. >Hi everyone, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >situation better? Granted, it has only been two days. They are >brothers, both a little over a year old. Thanks. Maybe because it's new territory and they're both trying to establish. Seriously, I'd get them neutered. They're plenty old enough, and the next step is territorial spraying behavior, and you sure don't want that. P--UUUU. Sherry sriddles@aol.comkitty (Sherry ) wrote in message <20031124001356.28460.00000826@mb-m14.aol.com> : >>Hi everyone, >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Sherry Neutering is not the answer to everything. There are several other alternatives available that are more humane. > Neutering is not the answer to everything. There are several other > alternatives available that are more humane. There is nothing MORE humane then nutering/spaying your pets. 1.Unnutered males fight more therefore getting much bigger access to various diseases adn scratch and bite infections, lots of them potentially letal. 2.They stray more in search for a "woman" and can dissapear for weeks on end terrifying you! My friends Porridge disapeared for 6 weeks! Then dicided to come back! 3.Next, they will spray what they consider their territory, this including your house, your furniture, your kitchen units etc. Besides smelling like .....well - urin, it is highly unhyginic! 4.Finally, there is enough unwanted animals needing a good home already in shleters and streets all over the world, you do NOT want to let him produce more of unwanted pets they can end up in most horrific ways. So nutering your pets is of the UPMOST importance, and there isn't a single reason you can give me for keeping your boys unnutered, apart from YOUR male ego being hurt - not cat's. Cat will be much calmer and happier, and not having a sh#g will not bother them a bit! Gee "Gee" <Gee@nospam.com> wrote in message <vb4xb.3910$qn4.32480@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net> : >> Neutering is not the answer to everything. There are several other >> alternatives available that are more humane. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Gee What does this have to do with my male ego? Stay on topic or I will be required to report you. > "Gee" <Gee@nospam.com> wrote in message > <vb4xb.3910$qn4.32480@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net> : [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > >There is nothing MORE humane then nutering/spaying your pets. . . . > What does this have to do with my male ego? Everything. The ONLY reason you have for suggesting to her NOT to nueter the cats is beucase YOU are uncomfortable with the idea as any men feels uncomfortable with the idea with any operation being done on their genitals. The comment is NOT a chovinistic or rude, it is simply a truth, weather you like it or not. And if you feel my comment is not correct, perhaps you can give me your pros of a cat staying unnuetered. And you can;t: becuase there aren't any. Nutered cats are not bothered with not getting any. Only humans are. >Stay on topic or I will > be required to report you. He he he, now you sound like Bob Brenchley who also threatened people when he didn;t like their response, no matter how polite, truthful and valid it was. You know what happened to him, people killfiled him so they don;t have to read his nasty comments, threats and rudeness. And empty advice. Nobody took his opinions and advice into consideration and most people hate him. So I suggest you don;t go down that road, for your own benefit, unless of course you want people to hate you as much as they hate Bob. Don't; believe me. Search the posts and find out for yourself. As for not being " on topic" ...HELLO!?!?!?! I REPLIED to your comment, so if you were NOT on topic, nor was I ! Therefore if you gonna report me for NOT being on topic, you must report yourself first! He he. But seriously, I do despair sometimes! And what exactly would you report me for: " Dear sir, I didn;t like what she said about me, I didn;t like her constructive criticism of my point, and her VALID examples of why she contradicted my opinion, and I didn;t like it, I didn;t like it, I didn;t like it, so you should do something about it". I can just imagine them falling off their chairs laughing at your e-mail. But if we gonna talk reports, I have one word for you: crossposting! Rings a bell? So don;t threaten me, or anyone else - ever. You don;t know who are you dealing with. I am the nicest person alive, I adore cats and helping people, but let that not fool you into thinking that I will put up with cr#p like your unreasonable threats. If you have a valid contradicting point to do with cats - make it. I can take constructive criticism and admit my fault because I am a bigger person. Why not try it yourself. We are here to talk cats, and help others with cats, which is what I have been doing for a long time. YOU are the one who went off topic the second you made a threat. So shell I report you then? And like your mother told you: stop and think before you act. Gee >> "Gee" <Gee@nospam.com> wrote in message >> <vb4xb.3910$qn4.32480@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net> : [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > >Gee Way to go, Gee. He does sound like Brenchley with all of his abuse reporting and put downs. Nan > Way to go, Gee. He does sound like Brenchley with all of his abuse > reporting and put downs. > > Nan Thanks :) Yeah Bob sure had his famous moments! From spellcheking, to reporting for top-posting, to lying through his teeth, to downright abusing my dead kitten! Go figure! I have met some nasty people in my time, but Bobbit is definitly not going to Heaven! :) Gee >Thanks :) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Gee Shhhh!!!! Don't even *say* the B-word. You might invoke the spirit.....LOL Seriously, whatever happened to the B**bster? Sherry Gee flushed and wrote : >> "Gee" <Gee@nospam.com> wrote in message >> <vb4xb.3910$qn4.32480@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net> : [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > >And like your mother told you: stop and think before you act. Your mother said you should post binaries of your hooters here. Provided they are not fried egg titties. :-) "Gee" <Gee@nospam.com> wrote in message <HW7xb.7619$4Y6.5604@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net> : >> "Gee" <Gee@nospam.com> wrote in message >> <vb4xb.3910$qn4.32480@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net> : [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > >Gee You are right. Please accept my apology. I've been going through some hard times and I guess its causing me to think and act irrationally. I'm sorry if I caused any hard feelings. You do sound like a very nice person. "The Charmed One" <nat2sim@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message > You are right. Please accept my apology. I've been going through > some hard times and I guess its causing me to think and act > irrationally. I'm sorry if I caused any hard feelings. You do sound > like a very nice person. Appology accepted, now let's get back to our favorite topic: kitty cats :) Gee "Gee" <Gee@nospam.com> wrote in message <Ybexb.4420$qn4.36092@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net> : >"The Charmed One" <nat2sim@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Appology accepted, now let's get back to our favorite topic: kitty cats :) My favorite topic is titties and pussy. But you're brit, so you know nothing about either. :-) > "Gee" <Gee@nospam.com> wrote in message > <Ybexb.4420$qn4.36092@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net> : [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > nothing about either. > :-) LOL ! Actually, as a woman, I do happen to know a little bit about both he he. But shame you don;t know anything about anything troll, and you crave attention so desperately you need to get it like this, and not using your brain or other parts of your body. May I suggest some local activities, or have you been shunned from all of them already , and now your only friend is internet :) How sad. You poor, poor lonely thing. Bless. Gee >Everything. The ONLY reason you have for suggesting to her NOT to nueter the >cats is beucase YOU are uncomfortable with the idea as any men feels >uncomfortable with the idea with any operation being done on their genitals. This brings up a question I have had for some time. Many human males undergo a vasectomy when they no longer wish to get a woman pregnant. I haven't done this myself, but I understand it doesn't affect the sex drive or ability to perform, just the ability to impregnate a woman. So could a vasectomy be performed on a male cat instead of the usual removal of the testicles? Would this not eliminate the cat overpopulation just as effectively, and in a more humane manner that would be more acceptable, especially to men who own cats? -- Bogus e-mail address, but I read this newsgroup regularly, so reply here. "Marek Williams" <abc@example.com> wrote in message > So could a vasectomy be performed on a male cat instead of the usual > removal of the testicles? Would this not eliminate the cat > overpopulation just as effectively, and in a more humane manner that > would be more acceptable, especially to men who own cats? Hmm, that is an interesting question. I am not a vet so obviously can;t give any medical answer but would love to know if this is medically possible. Any vets/biologists? However, thinking logically, even if it was possible, would there be a point really? What I mean is : If a male cat still has the ability and wants for the intercourse, but female doesn;t (due to her hysterectomy op - spaying), the poor boy would probably end up sexually frustrated and he would be worse off. Also if he still had a want, he would continue straying and staying away from home for weeks searching for a lady, and deep down, we, as their human pets, cannot handle not knowing where they are for so long. We'd go spare! So really, unless this boy had an intact female, he couldn;t do his business. And having an intact female poses a further risk of bringing more cats into this world, if not by this "vasected" chap, then possibly by another intact one. I remember when my Tiara was on her first heat at 5 months old, although she was an indoor cat, I had 2 boys hanging around the window for a week fancying their chances while she set on the window seal seducing them. I suppose a moment of carelessness on my part could;ve caused her to run out and get well accointed with one of them, so I would never risk having an intact female. Some people also complain about the distinctive "calls" females make during the heat, more often discribed as "too much noise" closely followed by human inability to sleep :) . Finally, being on heat I suppose is just as sexually frustrating. So unless someone finds out the way to keep the sex drive in females while taking away their ability to stay pregnant, poor boyz are better off fully nuetered :) Just my 2 cents. Gee "Gee" <Gee@nospam.com> wrote in message <0sexb.4429$qn4.35684@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net> : >"Marek Williams" <abc@example.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Hmm, Spit the splooge out before you talk, Skank. :-) Marek Williams <abc@example.com> wrote in message <60rasv4qnmip954htaf6dus53tpigvkgh7@4ax.com> : >>Everything. The ONLY reason you have for suggesting to her NOT to nueter the >>cats is beucase YOU are uncomfortable with the idea as any men feels [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >overpopulation just as effectively, and in a more humane manner that >would be more acceptable, especially to men who own cats? You should get a vasectomy and a lobotomy, Moron. :-) "Natski" <> wrote in message > You should get a vasectomy and a lobotomy, Moron. > :-) So like you then? he he Gee | > Neutering is not the answer to everything. There are several other | > alternatives available that are more humane. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] | | Gee I couldn't agree with you more! AOL -- Carola ^..^ ~~ , =?`= ___ ) (_ > Hi everyone, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > situation better? Granted, it has only been two days. They are > brothers, both a little over a year old. Thanks. Moving is a big stress for cats, so they have reverted to natural instincts. It's a new territory , and as they are both boys, they will insinctively create their own territories, especially if old place was all on one level. This is probably not good idea to allow in a long run(creating territories), as they might start threating each other as enemies and even start fighting. If they are unnuetered , defintily nueter them as asap, but even that may not reduce the territorialisam. Perhaps reduce the rooms they can go into for a few weeks. Make them stay in the same "teritory" and slowly enlarge it. And do it asap, before they start seeing each other in a negative way. Gee |
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