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Bill Bonde - 01 Jul 2003 09:55 GMT
http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_2077501,00.html

Another mutilated cat was found in Denver Sunday, bringing the total of
cat mutilations in the metro area over the past year to 39, according to
Aurora police.

The dead cat was found at 8th Avenue Park, 8th Avenue and Syracuse
Street, about a mile west of Aurora - the city where most of cat
killings have occurred.

Denver police declined to release specifics about the condition of the
cat, other than that a Denver police officer found the carcass about
8:30 a.m.

"We are not releasing any of the details of how the cats were found,"
Aurora police spokeswoman Kathleen Walsh said. "We are considering this
a suspicious occurrence. We can't determine the exact cause of death
until the necropsy."

Aurora police are leading a task force that is investigating the string
of cat mutilations. The task force includes animal control officers and
representatives from area police departments and the Denver Dumb Friends
League.

Meanwhile, it was determined that one of two maimed cats found Saturday
in Aurora was killed by an animal and will not be counted in the string
of cat slayings, Walsh said. The other cat will be included, however.

In most of the cases, the cats have been sliced open and their internal
organs removed.

"We have seen a pattern," Walsh said. "This is a crime and we need to
find who is responsible."

The cat mutilation cases are being taken so seriously, in part, because
animal mutilation is one of three childhood symptoms that criminologists
say are major danger signals that someone could grow up to be a serial
killer.

The other two are bed-wetting and fire-starting.

In Utah, authorities in the Salt Lake City area also are investigating a
string of a dozen or so similar cat mutilations.

Walsh said citizens should take Aurora's cat-at-large ordinance
seriously. The municipal law requires cat owners to keep their pets on
their property.

Walsh urged citizens to contact their local police department if a
mutilated cat is found.

"If you come across a carcass, we ask you don't touch it," Walsh said.
"We like the public to be our eyes and ears."

Anyone with information about these or other mutilation cases should
call the Aurora Police Department at (303) 365-2844.

The Denver Dumb Friends League is offering a $12,000 reward for
information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or people
responsible.
Bill Bonde - 01 Jul 2003 15:38 GMT
> http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_2077501,00.html
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> representatives from area police departments and the Denver Dumb Friends
> League.

Now we know why they haven't found the killers yet. They only have the
help of the
Denver Dumb Friends League.

> Meanwhile, it was determined that one of two maimed cats found Saturday
> in Aurora was killed by an animal and will not be counted in the string
> of cat slayings, Walsh said. The other cat will be included, however.

Killed by an animal? Did you even know that when animals kill other
animals, they 'maim' them?! That's a shocker.

> In most of the cases, the cats have been sliced open and their internal
> organs removed.

Especially if the animal that killed them ate them.

> "We have seen a pattern," Walsh said. "This is a crime and we need to
> find who is responsible."

A coyote.

> The cat mutilation cases are being taken so seriously, in part, because
> animal mutilation is one of three childhood symptoms that criminologists
> say are major danger signals that someone could grow up to be a serial
> killer.
>
> The other two are bed-wetting and fire-starting.

So if you find your kid with a wet bed on fire cooking a few cats,
better deal with it before it becomes a real problem.

> In Utah, authorities in the Salt Lake City area also are investigating a
> string of a dozen or so similar cat mutilations.
>
> Walsh said citizens should take Aurora's cat-at-large ordinance
> seriously. The municipal law requires cat owners to keep their pets on
> their property.

LOL. Is it any wonder people hate cats? The owners let them roam free so
they can dig up your flower beds and bury their crap in them. Dogs could
never get away with the complete freedom that cats are given all the
time.

> Walsh urged citizens to contact their local police department if a
> mutilated cat is found.
>
> "If you come across a carcass, we ask you don't touch it," Walsh said.

Don't worry about that.

> "We like the public to be our eyes and ears."

Especially when the cat doesn't have them anymore.

> Anyone with information about these or other mutilation cases should
> call the Aurora Police Department at (303) 365-2844.
>
> The Denver Dumb Friends League is offering a $12,000 reward for
> information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or people
> responsible.

Are they serious about this name of their organization? This is as
stupid as the "Senior Housing and Assistance Group", SHAG, that Stuart
Anderson is always going on about on those commercials.

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NickKnight - 01 Jul 2003 18:19 GMT
"The cat mutilation cases are being taken so seriously, in
part, because animal mutilation is one of three childhood
symptoms that criminologists say are major danger signals
that someone could grow up to be a serial killer."

"The other two are bed-wetting and fire-starting."
I've had kids who wet the bed, none of them mutilate
animals.  

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Hilden Pickering - 02 Jul 2003 02:33 GMT
>"The cat mutilation cases are being taken so seriously, in
>part, because animal mutilation is one of three childhood
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>I've had kids who wet the bed, none of them mutilate
>animals.  

I just have to say this...what about the other two?

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NickKnight - 02 Jul 2003 03:25 GMT
>I just have to say this...what about the other two?
But the author is implying that a child who wets the bed
will mutliate animals.   Not true.  
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L. Kelly - 02 Jul 2003 04:03 GMT
| >I just have to say this...what about the other two?
| But the author is implying that a child who wets the bed
| will mutliate animals.   Not true.
| --------------------------------------------

I think what the author was trying to say is that bed wetting is one of 3 criteria when
they look at serial killers like Jeffry Dalmer. When he was a small child, he wet the
bed, mutilated animals and played with fire. He grew into one of the most notorious
serial killers of our time.

The author was not saying that *all* children who wet the bed are going to become social
deviants. What he/she was saying is that the combination of all 3 deviations from what is
considered normal are very good indications that this child may have some serious future
emotional problems.
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NickKnight - 02 Jul 2003 23:25 GMT
>I think what the author was trying to say is that bed wetting is one of 3 criteria when
>they look at serial killers like Jeffry Dalmer. When he was a small child, he wet the
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>considered normal are very good indications that this child may have some serious future
>emotional problems.
Then maybe the author should have phrased it diffrently.
Where I've had kids who wet the bed I found his
generalizations offensive.  
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L. Kelly - 03 Jul 2003 04:06 GMT
| Then maybe the author should have phrased it diffrently.
| Where I've had kids who wet the bed I found his
| generalizations offensive.

I agree that sometimes these "blanket" statements can be annoying and quite often
offensive. I just try to consider the source and figure out whethet that was the intended
meaning.
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Dee - 02 Jul 2003 16:51 GMT
> >I just have to say this...what about the other two?

> But the author is implying that a child who wets the bed
> will mutliate animals.   Not true.

In fact, nothing of the sort was implied.  It was factually stated that
bed wetting, fire starting, and animal mutilations as a child, or some
combination thereof, are often found to have been childhood behaviours in
adults who've grown up to be killers.

Dee
Sherry - 03 Jul 2003 21:19 GMT
>In fact, nothing of the sort was implied.  It was factually stated that
>bed wetting, fire starting, and animal mutilations as a child, or some
>combination thereof, are often found to have been childhood behaviours in
>adults who've grown up to be killers.
>
>Dee

I can't say whether I agree or disagree, but I've also heard of the serial
killer "triangle", which indeed is, bedwetting, firestarting and animal abuse.
Or that's the story. It would be interesting to research.

Sherry
Dee - 04 Jul 2003 01:00 GMT
> >In fact, nothing of the sort was implied.  It was factually stated that
> >bed wetting, fire starting, and animal mutilations as a child, or some
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> killer "triangle", which indeed is, bedwetting, firestarting and animal abuse.
> Or that's the story. It would be interesting to research.

It's something I'm interested in, and has been extensively researched.
You've not going to ask me to "site my sources" like...well...someone, are
you?  *grin*  I'm currently reading a new theory about Jack The Ripper.

Dee
Sherry - 04 Jul 2003 04:59 GMT
>It's something I'm interested in, and has been extensively researched.
>You've not going to ask me to "site my sources" like...well...someone, are
>you?  *grin*  I'm currently reading a new theory about Jack The Ripper.
>
>Dee

One of the reasons it iinterests me is the one or two animal abuse cases we get
every year or so involving children. This is *not* a statistic, just an
observation of the oh, fewer than a dozen I have seen over the years. They're
all male. They're all less than 15 years old. They all, except for one case,
involved a "pair" of kids, or three kids. Only one acted alone. Last but nnot
least, they ALL got off withh a slap on the wrist and released to their
parents. We lobby hard for mandatory counseling. I think it's crucial.

Sherry
Dee - 02 Jul 2003 16:47 GMT
> >"The cat mutilation cases are being taken so seriously, in
> >part, because animal mutilation is one of three childhood
> >symptoms that criminologists say are major danger signals
> >that someone could grow up to be a serial killer."

> >"The other two are bed-wetting and fire-starting."
> >I've had kids who wet the bed, none of them mutilate
> >animals.

> I just have to say this...what about the other two?

And um, how do you know?  Most little psycho kids who mutilate an animal
aren't going to run home yelling "daddy, daddy, guess what I did!"  I know
someone who is currently in prison for three life sentences for murder who
exhibited these behaviours as a child.

Dee
Steve Clark - 02 Jul 2003 01:29 GMT
> The cat mutilation cases are being taken so seriously, in part, because
> animal mutilation is one of three childhood symptoms that criminologists
> say are major danger signals that someone could grow up to be a serial
> killer.

Ladies take note: One more reason (as if you needed another) to find a
man who loves your cats.

Steve

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Joe - 14 Jul 2003 10:08 GMT
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> information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or people
> responsible.
 
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