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Cat Forum / General Topics / November 2003Can you tell age of kitten by the size
I bought a kitten from a rescue center near by and was told he was about 2 months old at the time. Well I have setup an appointment to get him fixed around the time I think he would be 6 months old. He is getting big and I feel he might be older so I'd hate to be too late in getting him fixed knowing he might go into heat or whatever the males do before I get a change to. I know just like people, dogs..... cats can also be different sizes but is there anyway to guess within a couple of weeks or so? Thanks, Debbie > I bought a kitten from a rescue center near by and was told he was > about 2 months old at the time. Well I have setup an appointment to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > can also be different sizes but is there anyway to guess within a > couple of weeks or so? when your best estimate tells you it's time and you take the cat to the vet,,,, i'm sure the vet can tell if it's ok... as long as your cat is in good health...i doubt if a few weeks one way or the other will really matter...but your vet will know for sure >I bought a kitten from a rescue center near by and was told he was >about 2 months old at the time. Well I have setup an appointment to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >can also be different sizes but is there anyway to guess within a >couple of weeks or so? Mudpie and Punkin are from the same litter, and Mudpie has always been at least half again as big as Punkin. Experienced observers can tell the approximate age by the stage of development: the proportions and such things as the number and type of teeth. Well up to about a year - after that it gets really difficult because they don't change much until old age. T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu) SPAM filter: Messages to this address *must* contain "T.E.D." somewhere in the body or they will be automatically rejected. >I bought a kitten from a rescue center near by and was told he was >about 2 months old at the time. Well I have setup an appointment to >get him fixed around the time I think he would be 6 months old. We do spay/neuter at 8 weeks. Sometimes girls go into heat at 5 months so we don't wait til 6 months. When you spay/neuter early, it's easier for them to recuperate quickly. Boys are super easy. Just make sure your vet knows how to do early spay/neuter. That's what worries me. Our vet will not do it any earlier then 6 months, says they will have problems with crystels or something if done earlier. I did check with another vet in town "Companion Pet" which we have taken other pets to in the past and is good priced but they wanted over $200 to fix and declaw the kitten. Where I'm taking him is a very good small town vet and only charging $155 including shots. As you say, one to two weeks one why or another should not matter. He looked like he was about 2 month when I got him, but getting bigger now (I know, DUH) and looks like he is older then 4 months right now, but maybe he is just going to be a bigger cat. OH NO. Debbie >>I bought a kitten from a rescue center near by and was told he was >>about 2 months old at the time. Well I have setup an appointment to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >recuperate quickly. Boys are super easy. Just make sure your vet knows how to >do early spay/neuter. >That's what worries me. Our vet will not do it any earlier then 6 >months, says they will have problems with crystels or something if [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Debbie Why would you want to cut off a kittens toes at the first joint? Declawing a cat can cause all kinds of behavior problems in the future. I already have a 5 year old female cat that we had fixed and declawed at the same time when she was 6 mos. Never had a problem. I know it sounds mean but these are totally indoor cats and I value my furniture. Debbie >>That's what worries me. Our vet will not do it any earlier then 6 >>months, says they will have problems with crystels or something if [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Declawing a cat can cause all kinds of behavior problems in the >future. > I already have a 5 year old female cat that we had fixed and declawed > at the same time when she was 6 mos. Never had a problem. I know it > sounds mean but these are totally indoor cats and I value my > furniture. Maybe you should consider not owning cats then. Seriously. You are taking a perfect creature designed by nature and cutting off his/her fingers to protect some lump of wood and material made by man. That makes as much sense as tearing down a forest and erecting a church. I think you should give the cat to someone who places more value on the living and less value on living room furniture. AG EXCUSE ME, then spay/neutering your cat would be against nature also in your book, right. My cats are very happy, spoiled and loved in there environment. More then I can say for all the cats that are left out in the cold and wet and not cared for. Debbie >> I already have a 5 year old female cat that we had fixed and declawed >> at the same time when she was 6 mos. Never had a problem. I know it [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >AG > EXCUSE ME, then spay/neutering your cat would be against nature also > in your book, right. My cats are very happy, spoiled and loved in > there environment. More then I can say for all the cats that are left > out in the cold and wet and not cared for. The difference between spaying and declawing is one you do for protection of the animal and the other you do for protection of your furniture. I am glad your cats are happy...but I bet they would be happier if you didn't cut off their digits. Declawing isn't just trimming the nail...it's like cutting off your own fingers right where the nail starts to grow. Nice...yeah..you really spoil those cats. I am not going to debate this with you. This is how I feel and that will not change nor will do I imagine will your feelings that your sofa is more important than your cat. AG I understand how you feel but the kitten just ruined the fabic on the front of my husbands 80 year old radio. I'm going to find someone near by that will fix and declaw him now. Debbie >> EXCUSE ME, then spay/neutering your cat would be against nature also >> in your book, right. My cats are very happy, spoiled and loved in [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >AG > EXCUSE ME, then spay/neutering your cat would be against nature also > in your book, right. My cats are very happy, spoiled and loved in > there environment. More then I can say for all the cats that are left > out in the cold and wet and not cared for. > > Debbie Spaying and neutering provides many health benefits, not to mention lessening the number of cats "left out in the cold and wet and not cared for." Out of all the industrialized nations in the world, the ONLY nations that declaw are the US and Canada. It's been BANNED as inhumane in the rest of the industrialized world. Please check out the information that's available online about declawing. What the process really is, from people who've assisted in surgeries or seen the after-effects. The shelter from which you adopted the kitten should be more than willing to offer advice on teaching the kitten the proper places to scratch, and how to train him away from improper places. One cat improperly trained doesn't mean they all will be. And really, no offense, but must of the people on this newsgroup work or volunteer for shelters and humane societies in an attempt to help those cats out in the cold find homes AWAY from the cold. Most of us have seen declawed cats given up for behavior problems -resulting- from declawing (I have one as a foster cat, and another was just adopted a couple of hours ago). We don't want to see it happen again to one of yours. I don't mean to preach, really, but every time I go home, I see a shy cat with one malformed paw from a bad declaw. So please, look into the possible behavioral results of declawing this new kitten (anything from peeing outside the box to biting to outright aggressive behavior) before you go through with it. Pleasepleaseplease! >> I already have a 5 year old female cat that we had fixed and declawed >> at the same time when she was 6 mos. Never had a problem. I know it [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > AG I agree with you that is is pathetic -- disgusting -- to value your furniture above your cat's health and happiness. I like the way you explained it -- but, unfortunately, this person is never going to listen to your words of wisdom.  Signaturenimue "I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike." Clairel > I already have a 5 year old female cat that we had fixed and declawed > at the same time when she was 6 mos. Never had a problem. I know it > sounds mean but these are totally indoor cats and I value my > furniture. > > Debbie I value my furniture, too, but I value my cats a lot more. However, there is no reason why this has to be an "either-or" proposition. It is easy to train a cat to use scratching post. A few pieces of my furniture belonged to my parents (married in 1938!) when we were toddlers. Some other pieces are fairly good antinques, some that I bought as many as 35 years ago. NONE of my furniture is clawed or scratched, and my cats have their claws. I do have a selection of scratching posts, a good cat tree, and a pole mounted to the side of my computer hutch (primarily for my blind cat because he needs to"feel" the position of the post to get back down). You can see the furniture in some of the pictures of my cats (links listed below). The point here is: declawing is cruel, but it is also unncecessary. You say that you have not had any problems with your cat that was declawed. That may very well be true. However, there is a much higher rate of behavioral problems (including spraying, urinating outside the litter box, and biting) among cats that are declawed -- approximately 1/3 of them will develop some of these problems. Others (and this could even include your current cat, in the future) develop arthritis and muscular problems because they do not walk in the correct position. And why don't they walk with their bodies in correct alignment? Because declawing is actually a form of amputation. Here are some sources of information: http://www.stopdeclaw.com http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/declaw.html http://www.cara-adopt.org/declaw.html http://declaw.lisaviolet.com/declawvettch.html Please reconsider! This procedure is cruel and simply is not needed. Moreover, the money you save by not declawing could purchase a cat tree or some very nice scratching posts. MaryL (take out the litter to reply) Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'< http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") Sorry, to late. My kitten was fixed and declawed today. Debbie >> I already have a 5 year old female cat that we had fixed and declawed >> at the same time when she was 6 mos. Never had a problem. I know it [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) >http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") > Sorry, to late. My kitten was fixed and declawed today. > >"Debbie" <debbie2525@comcast.net> wrote in message > >> I already have a 5 year old female cat that we had fixed and declawed > >> at the same time when she was 6 mos. Never had a problem. I know it > >> sounds mean but Heh, she says "I know it sounds mean..." Some people are just clueless. Dee >> Sorry, to late. My kitten was fixed and declawed today. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Dee I picked up my kitten from the vets from being fixed and declawed. Just wanted to let you know that he is more loveable then before. Declawing didn't phase him one bit. Debbie > I picked up my kitten from the vets from being fixed and declawed. > Just wanted to let you know that he is more loveable then before. > Declawing didn't phase him one bit. ...and I'm sure he's in no pain. Dee >> I picked up my kitten from the vets from being fixed and declawed. >> Just wanted to let you know that he is more loveable then before. >> Declawing didn't phase him one bit. > >...and I'm sure he's in no pain. Nope, he's purrfectly normal. He is even kneading his front paws when he purrs with no problems. Debbie >Nope, he's purrfectly normal. He is even kneading his front paws when >he purrs with no problems. > >Debbie FYI, cats purr when they are in pain. A cat dying in agony purrs. Sherry >>Nope, he's purrfectly normal. He is even kneading his front paws when >>he purrs with no problems. >> >>Debbie > >FYI, cats purr when they are in pain. A cat dying in agony purrs. Right, and people are laugh while there having a heart attack also.... Really ...cats purr under a variety of situations not just when they are content. They purr when they are stressed, in pain Even the queens purr while they are in pain during the birthing process >>>Nope, he's purrfectly normal. He is even kneading his front paws when >>>he purrs with no problems. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Right, and people are laugh while there having a heart attack also.... >Really ...cats purr under a variety of situations not just when they are >content. > >They purr when they are stressed, in pain >Even the queens purr while they are in pain during the birthing process Exactly. Of course Debbie didn't get it. Anyone who understands cats so little they would declaw one couldn't be expected to know anything about cat behavior. Sherry > >FYI, cats purr when they are in pain. A cat dying in agony purrs. > Right, and people are laugh while there having a heart attack also.... Sherry's absolutely correct. Cats purr when in pain. Dee Dee <powersd@wam.umd.edu> wrote in news:Pine.SOL.4.44.0310311432110.29760- 100000@rac3.wam.umd.edu: >> >FYI, cats purr when they are in pain. A cat dying in agony purrs. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Dee But thats not the only time they purr.Mine growls when pissed off or threatened and purrs when I'm lovin on em. > Dee <powersd@wam.umd.edu> wrote in news:Pine.SOL.4.44.0310311432110.29760- > >> Right, and people are laugh while there having a heart attack also.... > > Sherry's absolutely correct. Cats purr when in pain. > > Dee > But thats not the only time they purr.Mine growls when pissed off or > threatened and purrs when I'm lovin on em. 'course! Misty comes to lay on my chest every night at bedtime and purrs so hard she drools til she practically chokes :) Dee >> >FYI, cats purr when they are in pain. A cat dying in agony purrs. > >> Right, and people are laugh while there having a heart attack also.... > >Sherry's absolutely correct. Cats purr when in pain. I don't think my kitten is in pain when all I have to do is walk up to him and he starts purring then curls his head under so I can scratch his neck. He's really hurting. Debbie I'm not sure that cat's purr if there in pain.Our old cat lived to be 22,he purred as loud as a tractor.He would even purr louder if he got into our bed. I was always told they purr when there happy. If I made a sound like a purr to him he comes running he's very happy to hear it,he's just 4 month's old and will run around the corner so fast when I make the sound to get to me then he get's in my lap and purr's till he fall's asleep. Kit >I'm not sure that cat's purr if there in pain.Our old cat lived to be 22,he >purred as loud as a tractor.He would even purr louder if he got into our [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >fall's asleep. >Kit Cats *do* purr mostly when they are very contented. But still, they do purr when they're in pain. Here are a few websites you can check out. It's very interesting. http://www.animalvoice.com/catpurrP.htm http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/ the_cats_purr_for_healing.htm http://www2b.abc.net.au/science/scribblygum-old/ posts/topic12130.shtm http://www.pet-tails.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=196 What do the cats talk to them and tell them that they are in pain? How would one know? Myra >>I'm not sure that cat's purr if there in pain.Our old cat lived to be 22,he >>purred as loud as a tractor.He would even purr louder if he got into our [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >http://www.pet-tails.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=196 >What do the cats talk to them and tell them that they are in pain? >How would one know? > >Myra A cat who has been hit by a car and is dying is in pain. A cat who is in labor is in pain. They purr. Read the case studies. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Sherry >>> Sorry, to late. My kitten was fixed and declawed today. >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Debbie Troll. >>>> Sorry, to late. My kitten was fixed and declawed today. >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Troll. Thank You :0) >Subject: Can you tell age of kitten by the size >Path: >lobby!ngtf-m01.news.aol.com!ngpeer.news.aol.com!feed2.newsreader.com!news reader.com!news-xfer2.atl.newshosting.com!63.218.45.10.MISMATCH!newshostin g.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!216.166.71.118.MISMATCH!small1.nntp.a us1.giganews.com!border1.nn >tp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nnt p.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail >NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:38:55 -0500 >From: Debbie debbie2525@comcast.net [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >X-Trace: >sv3-RLGczqCNDFcB33DUOh/ewpnPeq+1nxSBC6qNq+3S31II7qLQrbsk/6Zi1n3oWdhI120Nh tXnM2leTMK!/kJFGQnQu+/19M/xifP0rVJaewlKcvVY1XwKT14uFnsc1X2+hRCpWm+Ov9/3+uQ +xRYb/jHzQQ== >X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net >X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >can also be different sizes but is there anyway to guess within a >couple of weeks or so? ************* Any cat over 6 kg is at least 8 weeks old. Any cat under 250 grams is less than 5 years old. Unless it's a lion or tiger. Or you're on a planet with hypergravity. - Big "{BNB} is a little Net-Trollop. He sluts his wrath all over the place." - John Boyd " I also am leaving the Usenet never to return." - Mike Lalonde on 5/28 in <vd8ergbmj24g06@corp.supernews.com > I bought a kitten from a rescue center near by and was told he was > about 2 months old at the time. Well I have setup an appointment to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > can also be different sizes but is there anyway to guess within a > couple of weeks or so? A kitten will have all it's milk teeth (26) by 8 weeks old and permanent teeth (30) appear between 12 - 18 weeks (get your vet to check) also a kittens eye colour will start to change between 8 - 10 weeks and the process is usually complete by 12 weeks. When male cats are reaching sexual maturity their urine starts to take on the very distinctive *tom* cat smell and their faces (cheeks) get fatter, the important bits at the other end also enlarge (usually around 6 months old) :-) -- Shirley see my cats at http://communities.msn.co.uk/Friendsfamilyandfelines2 http://uk.msnusers.com/friendsfamilyandfelines3 Thanks, that is very interesting to know. As for the other end, I believe they are starting to grow (not that I look closely). If I go by what I was told he should be 17 weeks now. Debbie >> I bought a kitten from a rescue center near by and was told he was >> about 2 months old at the time. Well I have setup an appointment to [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >fatter, the important bits at the other end also enlarge (usually >around 6 months old) :-) > I bought a kitten from a rescue center near by and was told he was > about 2 months old at the time. Well I have setup an appointment to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > can also be different sizes but is there anyway to guess within a > couple of weeks or so? You adopted a 2 month old kitten and your vet won't neuter until 6 months. That's still four months where the kitten should be getting various vaccinations. ANY animal adopted should be taken to the vet within DAYS for a very basic physical exam. Your vet can verify or correct the age of the kitten then, and if necessary, move up or move back the appointment to neuter. Your vet may not be up to date on early-age feline alteration, but most shelters (and some practices) do this routinely and there have been absolutely NO negative effects found. You're more likely to have behavioral problems from declawing the kitten than to see complications from early-age neutering your new kitten. If you'd like to consider that option, please find a vet that is comfortable with it. I should have added that when I did get the kitten he did have a Leukemia test (which was neg), first shots and worming. She also sent home with me his followup worming and shot for my husband to give. My husband is a Fire fighter and gives our dog her shot when needed so it was no problem. Debbie >> I bought a kitten from a rescue center near by and was told he was >> about 2 months old at the time. Well I have setup an appointment to [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >neutering your new kitten. If you'd like to consider that option, please >find a vet that is comfortable with it. |
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