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Cat Forum / General Topics / October 2003Anyone heard of a Flame Pointe cats
I took in a 11 week old kitten (Another one - groan) that was staying under the porch for about a week that I knew of while feeding her trying to get her to come out. I finally had to pull the steps off to get at her. I talked my ex-wife into keeping her (The second stray I have talked her into keeping). 2 for her and 4 for me now. Anyway I took her to the vet to be checked out and started on shots. She had ears mites and is on meds for that. The vet said it was a Flame Pointe Persian or Himalayan (SP?) and was a rare and sometimes expensive cat. Was wondering if anyone had ever heard of this type of cat? I done a search and found a Flame Pointe Siamese but not Persian or Himalayan. It has a whitish body and orangish tinted tail and ears and face and maybe legs. As soon as get pics will put up. Don't know why these cats / kittens keep finding me. I have put out over $700 in the last week or so on them!! But I have come to love them all including this latest one. Luckily my ex loves cats / kittens also and lets me talk her into keeping a couple!! http://www.ameritech.net/users/lestark/my-babies.htm > I took in a 11 week old kitten (Another one - groan) that was > staying under the porch for about a week that I knew of while [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > http://www.ameritech.net/users/lestark/my-babies.htm Awww... can't wait to see pictures. :) The pointed himmies are definitely much desired here, at least so if you just want to foster her (him?) I'm sure you won't have a problem finding a home. But I sense that you want to keep her. :) I am not an expert but from what I've read, the "points" tend to deepen based on climate, and with age. Sounds like a beauty! Does it still have blue eyes? >> I took in a 11 week old kitten (Another one - groan) that was >> staying under the porch for about a week that I knew of while [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> http://www.ameritech.net/users/lestark/my-babies.htm >Awww... can't wait to see pictures. :) The pointed himmies are >definitely much desired here, at least so if you just want to foster >her (him?) I'm sure you won't have a problem finding a home. But I >sense that you want to keep her. :) I am not an expert but from >what I've read, the "points" tend to deepen based on climate, and with >age. Sounds like a beauty! Does it still have blue eyes? Yes she has nice bright blue eyes. Taking pics today. Have to get a digital camera one of these days!! > Yes she has nice bright blue eyes. Taking pics today. Have to get > a digital camera one of these days!! Sounds like a himmy then. Yea! piccys! A pointed cat with bright blue eyes might not be a Himalayan. I've heard of Flame Point Siamese Cats. They do exist. I actually SAW one at a breeder in Vermont. Pretty, but different. It is a variation of Siamese coloring, provided it is a shorthair. Bastetsmuse, who serves a sealpoint siamese named Musetta "if an email to me there needs to be, then x with s you'll need to see" > A pointed cat with bright blue eyes might not be a Himalayan. I've > heard of Flame Point Siamese Cats. They do exist. > > I actually SAW one at a breeder in Vermont. Pretty, but different. > It is a variation of Siamese coloring, provided it is a shorthair. My guess is that this is really a mixed-breed cat (DLH). If the fur is long, it is probably "like" or "similar to" a Himalayan; short-hair (DSH) would be "like" a Siamese. But the likelihood that this is a purebred cat is slim to none. Actually, I think this is completely unimportant, but I am commenting on it because of the reference to Himalayans being "sometimes expensive cats." My Amber (described in my other post) had long hair and points, but I always thought she looked very much like a Balinese. That is another possible "similarity" in this description. Again, she was DLH. MaryL (take out the litter to reply) >A pointed cat with bright blue eyes might not be a Himalayan. I've >heard of Flame Point Siamese Cats. They do exist. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Bastetsmuse, who serves a sealpoint siamese named Musetta >"if an email to me there needs to be, then x with s you'll need to see" Have you heard of red tabby point blue eyed cats? Ozy is one of those (<http://gearbox.maem.umr.edu/tdavis/cats/03.jan/ozy.267x400.1.jpg>). His breeding is inbred random - he's from a colony of barn cats. He has a sister who is medium haired sort of apricot colored and he had a red tabby and white brother (<http://gearbox.maem.umr.edu/tdavis/cats/underfoot.kittens.1.html>). Ozy is so handsome that there really ought to be a breed with his coloration so others could have such handsome cats. T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body) "Ted Davis" <tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu> wrote in message > Have you heard of red tabby point blue eyed cats? Ozy is one of those > (<http://gearbox.maem.umr.edu/tdavis/cats/03.jan/ozy.267x400.1.jpg>). > His breeding is inbred random - he's from a colony of barn cats. He [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Ozy is so handsome that there really ought to be a breed with his > coloration so others could have such handsome cats. He is gorgeous. I believe that is what Diva is going to end up looking like. She was white with blue eyes when she was born. At 10 weeks I could see kind of a peach coloring developing on her ears, tail, feet and around the nose and her eyes remained blue. Her brother looked just like a chocolate point Siamese...and of course the other two looked completely different. Mom was a stray so who knows what their breeding is <g>. I do love the look of Ozy. AG >"Ted Davis" <tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu> wrote in message > Have you heard >of red tabby point blue eyed cats? Ozy is one of those [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >completely different. Mom was a stray so who knows what their breeding >is <g>. I do love the look of Ozy. He knew I was reading about him - he jumped from a box under the window onto my leg ... he missed and sank his claws into my thigh - I need to check for bleeding before I ruin another pair of pants. ... just a little oozing, nothing a bit of peroxide can't fix. I think it's time to trim his claws. I see what happened: the book he was sitting on slid off the box when he launched himself - that messed up his aim. Not only is he a good looker, and an affectionate lap and bed cat, he's also an accomplished mouser. A very good all-round cat. Except for where he puts himself on the bed: I have to move him when I get up to avoid hurting him. T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body) > >A pointed cat with bright blue eyes might not be a Himalayan. I've > >heard of Flame Point Siamese Cats. They do exist. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Ozy is so handsome that there really ought to be a breed with his > coloration so others could have such handsome cats. I've seen moggies like him many times. In one feral colony I'm aware of, there is a tortie who throws these kittens a lot. Dunno if Daddy is siamese, but there have been four kittens like that in the last, hum, four years or so. Momma refuses to be trapped. Daddy is unknown roamer. -L. >> >A pointed cat with bright blue eyes might not be a Himalayan. I've >> >heard of Flame Point Siamese Cats. They do exist. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >hum, four years or so. Momma refuses to be trapped. Daddy is unknown >roamer. I'm not sure what his mother is - I think she is/was red tabby (which would indicate a double dose of the red tabby genes) or calico (single set of red tabby genes). The father is/was probably the dominant resident tom since the barn he was born in is so far from other colonies and there *are* large resident red tabby toms. The thing about barn cat colonies is that they can have almost any genes floating around and popping up from time to time, and nobody has any clue at all about when they entered the population or where they came from. And the thing about taking in unwanted cats is that I never know anything about their heredity, except maybe what the mother looked like - is Ozy's case, there was some doubt about which of the queens that had litters about the same time was his mother. IN fact the only reason I think Millie is his sister is that they were so close as kittens. T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body) > A pointed cat with bright blue eyes might not be a Himalayan. Yes, but we didn't have a picture, either. Himmies (or look-alikes) are very common and so show up either as strays or in shelters in large numbers. I've > heard of Flame Point Siamese Cats. They do exist. Of course they do. I think some call them appleheads. > I actually SAW one at a breeder in Vermont. Pretty, but different. > It is a variation of Siamese coloring, provided it is a shorthair. > > Bastetsmuse, who serves a sealpoint siamese named Musetta > "if an email to me there needs to be, then x with s you'll need to > see" And Balonese (sp?) also fit the description but himmy was my first guess. Others were of course welcome to join in the guessing game. :) >>> The vet said it was a Flame Pointe Persian or Himalayan (SP?) and >>> was a rare and sometimes expensive cat. Was wondering if anyone >>> had ever heard of this type of cat? I done a search and found a >>> Flame Pointe Siamese but not Persian or Himalayan. A scientist once told me that the Siamese "type" can suddenly APPEAR in any line of cats, at any time. When it happens in specially-bred for research cats, they WILL NOT USE that cat for research. Instead, that cat is either put down or given to someone to take home to raise. Zeus, the Siamese I was petting when I learned this, was one of these critters. He was lovely. Bastetsmuse "if an email to me there needs to be, then s not x you'll need to see" > I took in a 11 week old kitten (Another one - groan) that was staying > under the porch for about a week that I knew of while feeding her [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > http://www.ameritech.net/users/lestark/my-babies.htm I think flame point refers to the coloration. My cat Amber (departed to the RB 9 years ago) was a mixed breed, but she had the characteristics you describe -- long white/cream-colored fur with the "flame point" markings and the most gorgeous blue eyes I have ever seen. And she had the disposition of an angel! You can see a picture of her (barely) if you go to this location: http://tinyurl.com/8y56. Scroll down to the last picture and click on it. That is a picture of Duffy on the computer hutch. Beneath him (on the left) is a picture of Amber. She was 15 years old at the time the picture was taken and had been ill for some time, so this picture does not show her true beauty. She lived another year after the picture was taken. MaryL (take out the litter to reply) |
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