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Cat Forum / General Topics / October 2003How Sigfried & Roy Tortured Animals In Their Show!! Dual Standard For Bobby Berosini
http://www.peta-online.org/search/alerts/row.asp?id=122 Gilda is a 42-year-old Asian elephant who is housed alone at the Mirage Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas. She spends the majority of her day in a small outdoor enclosure except for the brief time that she is brought onstage to be used by Siegfried and Roy in a disappearing act. Companionship is critical to the health and well-being of elephants. The most highly respected elephant experts in the world concur that it is extremely cruel to keep an elephant isolated from other elephants. Please write to the Mirage and ask that Gilda be retired to the Elephant Sanctuary (www.elephants.com) in Tennessee where she can experience the love and friendship of other elephants. http://www.lasvegasmercury.com/2002/MERC-Jun-06-Thu-2002/18902783.html http://www.peta.org/feat/deadly/ The only magic trick that PETA would like to see Siegfried & Roy perform is to make animals disappear from their act. Animals used as stage props are subjected to loud music, bright lights, mishandling, and other frightening aspects of an alien environment. Gilda, a solitary elephant used in Siegfried & Roy’s casino act, is deprived of a female elephant’s most basic need: the companionship of other elephants. The duo has refused PETA’s requests to send Gilda to the Elephant Sanctuary, where she could live the remainder of her life in peace and enjoy the company of other elephants. Siegfried & Roy promote the breeding of white tigers, an abnormal color variation of Bengal tigers. All captive white tigers are inbred, and some suffer serious congenital defects. In an attack that occurred before horrified tourists at Siegfried & Roy’s compound, a male tiger grabbed a female tiger by the throat and slowly choked her to death. According to a tourist who witnessed the incident, the male tiger had a stranglehold on the female’s neck for at least 20 minutes, and “nobody did anything ... no animal trainer was on hand” to intervene. >http://www.peta-online.org/search/alerts/row.asp?id=122 Quoting PETA about animals is like quoting Rush about liberals. You get exactly what they want you to get. Nothing more, nothing less. Balance is not an option.  SignatureBill Replace "g" with "a" Experience is what you get when you expected something else. >Quoting PETA about animals is like quoting Rush about liberals. >You get exactly what they want you to get. Nothing more, nothing less. >Balance is not an option. What an absolutely brainless thing to say. But your Limbaugh analogy is on the money, even though you meant it disparagingly. Rush gives you the unvarnished truth about conservative POV, and PETA about animals, from animals' POV. What kind of balance are you looking for? The kind that makes you feel good about abusing animals? PETA doesn't care about that, they don't care about balance, they want people to see what animals are actually going through from THEIR POV, not from the entertainment starved hordes' POV. Bravo to PETA, and f.ck S&R and anyone else who thinks of animals as toys for their amusement, or medical research for that matter. I'm ashamed that I still eat meat. Not nearly as much or as wide a variety as I used to, but I'm still addicted to the flesh. Also, not because I think that it's wrong to eat flesh, but because I'm aware of the treatment that some livestock suffers on the way to and in the slaughter house. If more people actually read PETA's publications and saw those conditions, they would eat less meat as well. I rationalize that I need to eat, and that killing animals for food is not as bad as torturing them for entertainment, but that's me, and I have to live with it. But don't you dare delude yourself into thinking that its just fine to torture animals for any reason you create. -- Marty (to respond via email, drop 'your.pants') "to be yourself, in a world that tries, night and day, to make you just like everybody else - is to fight the greatest battle there ever is to fight, and never stop fighting" -- e.e. cummings >>Quoting PETA about animals is like quoting Rush about liberals. >>You get exactly what they want you to get. Nothing more, nothing less. >>Balance is not an option. > >What an absolutely brainless thing to say. So you think PETA is a reliable source of information about animals? Your naivete is showing again. >But your Limbaugh analogy is on the money, even though you meant it >disparagingly. >Rush gives you the unvarnished truth about conservative POV, and PETA about >animals, from animals' POV. From the animal's point of view? Where do you get this stuff? > What kind of balance are you looking for? The kind >that makes you feel good about abusing animals? PETA doesn't care about that, >they don't care about balance, they want people to see what animals are actually >going through from THEIR POV, not from the entertainment starved hordes' POV. >Bravo to PETA, and f.ck S&R and anyone else who thinks of animals as toys for >their amusement, or medical research for that matter. See? Balance goes out the window ewhen PETA is mentioned. >I'm ashamed that I still eat meat. Not nearly as much or as wide a variety as I >used to, but I'm still addicted to the flesh. There's a reason yiou eat meat: you're an omnivore. That's a fact. It's not one PETA likes you to know, but it's a fact nonetheless. >Also, not because I think that >it's wrong to eat flesh, but because I'm aware of the treatment that some [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >But don't you dare delude yourself into thinking that its just fine to torture >animals for any reason you create. When did I even hint that? I think that you're adding to what I said. SignatureBill Replace "g" with "a" Experience is what you get when you expected something else. > http://www.peta-online.org/search/alerts/row.asp?id=122 > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Elephant Sanctuary (www.elephants.com) in Tennessee where she can > experience the love and friendship of other elephants. Post information with the address and person to write to, and I certainly will. > http://www.lasvegasmercury.com/2002/MERC-Jun-06-Thu-2002/18902783.html > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > minutes, and “nobody did anything ... no animal trainer was on > hand” to intervene. Signaturenimue "Because the thing about the Nerds, what made them so appealing, was that not only are they underdogs, they are underdogs who accept other underdogs unconditionally. And that speaks volumes to people." Curtis Armstrong "I don't understand why you don't want to see more of Spike. More Spike makes everything better. Spike, Spike, Spike, wonderful Spike." Clairel "There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also smoking." Principal Snyder >> http://www.peta-online.org/search/alerts/row.asp?id=122 >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Post information with the address and person to write to, and I certainly > will. Hi Nimue, Here's the address: The Mirage 3400 S. Las Vegas Blvd. Las Vegas, NV 89109 :O) gloria If what you say is true I guess the animal can just call it "The Big Payback!" > http://www.peta-online.org/search/alerts/row.asp?id=122 > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > minutes, and “nobody did anything ... no animal trainer was on > hand” to intervene. well, to relate this to a craps ng........ dice were originally made from animal bones...... roll them bones... What makes you think they were animal bones? Gerd > well, to relate this to a craps ng........ > > dice were originally made from animal bones...... > > roll them bones... they were knuckles. Signaturebillb >they were knuckles. I like this new style of posting. We're left to guess what the hell you're talking about. Very economical though. -- Marty (to respond via email, drop 'your.pants') "to be yourself, in a world that tries, night and day, to make you just like everybody else - is to fight the greatest battle there ever is to fight, and never stop fighting" -- e.e. cummings > >they were knuckles. > > I like this new style of posting. We're left to guess what the hell you're > talking about. Very economical though. My killfile is growing by leaps and bounds. First all the political threads, then all the homophobe threads and now the "newbies who don't know anything about newsgroup posting" people. I hope they all kill each other in there. Giselle (and I'm not feeding them either.) My killfile is growing by leaps and bounds. U MUST TALK TOO YOSEF A LOT IN THIS FORUM THEN... =TR0UT= > > >they were knuckles. > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Giselle (and I'm not feeding them either.) >>they were knuckles. > >I like this new style of posting. We're left to guess what the hell you're >talking about. Very economical though. You're using Agent. Do you have it set up so that threads aren't kept together? SignatureBill Replace "g" with "a" Experience is what you get when you expected something else. >You're using Agent. >Do you have it set up so that threads aren't kept together? Yes, it is set up that way. But I read articles several time a day (and night). When I read your message, it was the only one in that thread. -- Marty (to respond via email, drop 'your.pants') "to be yourself, in a world that tries, night and day, to make you just like everybody else - is to fight the greatest battle there ever is to fight, and never stop fighting" -- e.e. cummings >>You're using Agent. >>Do you have it set up so that threads aren't kept together? > >Yes, it is set up that way. But I read articles several time a day (and night). >When I read your message, it was the only one in that thread. Maybe when *you* read it. But if you set your reader up that way, instead of a way that obviates the problem, complaining to others seems a little off. But, do it your way, and complain. SignatureBill Replace "g" with "a" Experience is what you get when you expected something else. >Maybe when *you* read it. >But if you set your reader up that way, instead of a way that obviates >the problem, complaining to others seems a little off. >But, do it your way, and complain. I have another solution. -- Marty (to respond via email, drop 'your.pants') "to be yourself, in a world that tries, night and day, to make you just like everybody else - is to fight the greatest battle there ever is to fight, and never stop fighting" -- e.e. cummings Nobody knows what is in the mind of an elephant. Elephants live in groups in the wild out of necessity. It doesn't mean that they can be perfectly adapted to a solitary environment. She may be as happy as a clam not to have to share her food ration with anybody else or have to deal with the indiosyncracies of others of her species. SD prefers a solitary environment herself |
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