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Cat Forum / General Topics / October 2003Sorry, but Roy suffered the accident as a result of the bad karma built up of many years.
I want to couch my posting by saying from the beginning that I am sorry Mr. Roy had the accident the other day. I hate to see any animal suffer, even humans. I saw a film of him training a young lion to swim. They were in the middle of a round pool that was very deep. Just the way to instill trust and respect as well as hatred and unwanted dependence on a natural enemy. The law of averages finally caught up. The animals have been used and abused for many years, and one wonders if S&R will become animal farm later. Our prayers go out to S&R and the employees. They were told it was unclear when "the show would go on" and now beat it and find other jobs. Kind of cheap of S (sure to be his decision since R is fighting for his life) after all the money S&R have made off their cattle lo these many years. Ken It's a bit of a disaster for the Mirage and MGM (unless they start showing the mauling tape in the S&R theatre nightly to the morbidly curious Bread and Circuses tourist crowd.) I wonder what they'll do with the Tiger viewing area at that one entrance to the Casino. Steakhouse? > I want to couch my posting by saying from the beginning that I am > sorry Mr. Roy had the accident the other day. I hate to see any [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Ken Is there an 800 number and is there a DVD available yet? PJ  Signature"If voting could really change things, it would be illegal." - Unknown "Nothing can confound A wise man more than laughter from a dunce." - Lord Byron "There is no subject so old that something new cannot be said about it." - Fyodor Mikhailovich Dostoyevsky > It's a bit of a disaster for the Mirage and MGM (unless they start showing > the mauling tape in the S&R theatre nightly to the morbidly curious Bread [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > > Ken > From: "PJ DiSanti" <pj@pjdisantinospam.com> > Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > PJ I don't know, but give me like a hundred bucks and a few days and I think I can come up with a pretty good one. Tommy Joe (Film Maker Extraordinaire) > > From: "PJ DiSanti" <pj@pjdisantinospam.com> > > Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Tommy Joe (Film Maker Extraordinaire You post much will very little to say. Ollie) > > > From: "PJ DiSanti" <pj@pjdisantinospam.com> > > > Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > You post much will very little to say. > Ollie) I was absolutely giddy to see the subject line and Ollies name. Then it got even better, TJ had posted as well. With heart pounding anxiousness I wait for the page to load. "Surely this will be so funny I will laugh away the years of abuse I suffered at the hands of that guy my Dad excaped from prison with" I am thinking. But alas, these were not your better post my NG friends. And so disappointed I punch myself in the nuts until I fall asleep. Although the idea of phonying up a video of the event say with a GI Joe doll and kitten would be cool. Maybe getting a cat to attack a GI Joe in front of a small child that had seen the actual event and was severely traumatised. The kid could start flinching and sh.t. >>>> Is there an 800 number and is there a DVD available yet? >>>> >>>> PJ >>> I don't know, but give me like a hundred bucks and a few days and I think >>> I can come up with a pretty good one. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > that had seen the actual event and was severely traumatised. The kid > could start flinching and sh.t. Oh, what we could do with a video camera and our great imaginations - and a little spare time to go along with it. Tommy Joe > It's a bit of a disaster for the Mirage and MGM Not by a long shot! They make SO much more money off the casinos. The S & R show was just a draw. Gloria >> It's a bit of a disaster for the Mirage and MGM > >Not by a long shot! They make SO much more money off the casinos. The S & >R show was just a draw. Yeah, well, how is the casino going to make money WITHOUT someone drawing in the customers? SignatureVisit my Iron Age Pages for technical and fun stuff (holiday specials, too)! http://pages.prodigy.net/feaudrey > >> It's a bit of a disaster for the Mirage and MGM > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Yeah, well, how is the casino going to make money WITHOUT someone drawing in > the customers? Uhhh...have you ever been to Las Vegas?? Really all it takes is a mechanical volcano to draw people, or a really great bar, or a craps tournament, or Wayne Newton, or the best buffett, or free mardi gras beads, or an indoor high wire act...or...... I am sure S and R were a big draw but they can be replaced. AG Yeah!!! I posted this in another thread but it really belongs here... "I'll be performing at the Mirage for Christmas, they are letting me cook and consume the tiger that mauled Roy, Live ONSTAGE! We will kill it, cook it and I promise it will be a rare treat, blood rare." So come on out and see me eat some pussy! PJ Signature"If voting could really change things, it would be illegal." - Unknown "Nothing can confound A wise man more than laughter from a dunce." - Lord Byron "There is no subject so old that something new cannot be said about it." - Fyodor Mikhailovich Dostoyevsky > > >> It's a bit of a disaster for the Mirage and MGM > > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > AG >>> It's a bit of a disaster for the Mirage and MGM >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Yeah, well, how is the casino going to make money WITHOUT someone drawing in > the customers? Oh, please! The Mirage takes in millions of dollars PER DAY. People go to Vegas to GAMBLE, sweetie. They'll go wherever the slots are paying well or they are treated royally or the food is great or they just feel "lucky" there. Any number of reasons make a person walk through those doors to gamble and S & R or any other act is very small in the overall equation. Gloria >>>> It's a bit of a disaster for the Mirage and MGM >>> Not by a long shot! They make SO much more money off the casinos. The S & >>> R show was just a draw. >> Yeah, well, how is the casino going to make money WITHOUT someone drawing in >> the customers? >Oh, please! The Mirage takes in millions of dollars PER DAY. People go to >Vegas to GAMBLE, sweetie. They'll go wherever the slots are paying well or >they are treated royally or the food is great or they just feel "lucky" >there. Any number of reasons make a person walk through those doors to >gamble and S & R or any other act is very small in the overall equation. Along the Strip alone, from the Sahara to Mandalay Bay, there are nearly THIRTY major hotel-casinos, all with a nearly identical set of facilities. Anything that makes the customers walk into your joint rather the one on either side or across the street or further away. So a good-drawing show is an important component of the mix. Notice that the Sigfried and Roy-related exhbits are still up and running. SignatureVisit my Iron Age Pages for technical and fun stuff (holiday specials, too)! http://pages.prodigy.net/feaudrey >> Not by a long shot! They make SO much more money off the casinos. The S & >> R show was just a draw. > > Yeah, well, how is the casino going to make money WITHOUT someone drawing in > the customers? I see that working both ways. I'd say gambling is the big draw. Tommy Joe > >> Not by a long shot! They make SO much more money off the casinos. The S & > >> R show was just a draw. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Tommy Joe You post much will very little to say. Ollie > I want to couch my posting by saying from the beginning that I am > sorry Mr. Roy had the accident the other day. I hate to see any [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Ken they obviously know something you don't, regarding his injury, which may not cause him to die, but they probably have enough info to know that he will have to retire. Telling the people to find other jobs is kinder than telling them to hang on and THEn telling them months from now. They can't pay a couple hundred people forever, for god's sake. They got 10 days' severance. The situation can't be helped. That's what you get, when you work in that kind of job. They'll find other jobs, I saw some hotel already offered jobs to them. Calm down. > > I want to couch my posting by saying from the beginning that I am > > sorry Mr. Roy had the accident the other day. I hate to see any [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > kind of job. They'll find other jobs, I saw some hotel already offered jobs > to them. Calm down. Thats show biz... Ollie Semper "Biting off more than I can" FI > > I want to couch my posting by saying from the beginning that I am > > sorry Mr. Roy had the accident the other day. I hate to see any [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > that kind of job. They'll find other jobs, I saw some hotel > already offered jobs to them. Calm down. Agreed. -- ~~Philip "Never let school interfere with your education - Mark Twain" > > I want to couch my posting by saying from the beginning that I am > > sorry Mr. Roy had the accident the other day. I hate to see any [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > them to hang on and THEn telling them months from now. They can't pay a > couple hundred people forever, for god's sake. Oh, my word! I never knew that the supporting cast was in the hundreds. All along one was given the impression that it was just S&R who were doing all the work. And the loss of one person is going to cause the show to be cancelled? So were the hundreds in the supporting cast doing nothing? Or alot. Sounds like they were treated throughout the years like the animals in the show. Shabbily. > They got 10 days' severance. > The situation can't be helped. That's what you get, when you work in that > kind of job. They'll find other jobs, I saw some hotel already offered jobs > to them. > Calm down. Like Kathy says.... piss off! Ken > > > I want to couch my posting by saying from the beginning that I am > > > sorry Mr. Roy had the accident the other day. I hate to see any [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > hundreds. All along one was given the impression that it was just S&R > who were doing all the work. Who in the world would come to that conclusion? Do you think the only people who work on the TV shows you see are the actors? And the loss of one person is going to > cause the show to be cancelled? So were the hundreds in the > supporting cast doing nothing? Or alot. > Sounds like they were treated throughout the years like the animals in > the show. Shabbily. I haven't heard anything indicating that the employees have been treated shabbily throughout the years. But if S&R did treat their employees badly, their employees had a choice that the animals didn't-to leave. > From: "njs" <elevation@giveadamn.com> > They got 10 days' severance. > The situation can't be helped. That's what you get, when you work in that > kind of job. They'll find other jobs, I saw some hotel already offered jobs > to them. Calm down. Calm down! Weren't those Roy's final words to the big cat as it leapt toward his throat? You're right, though, about these people finding other jobs. How far removed from reality are people when they focus in on something like this when people all over this country are one week's pay check away from the street? These people aren't heading for skid row, for Christ's sake! Tommy (The Tiger) Joe In news:755eff52.0310071402.747af4b1@posting.google.com, The Smiths <ken_andor_kathy@yahoo.com> being of bellicose mind posted: >snip< > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Ken The "business" end of the Ziegfield and Roy show is run like a .... business. It is not a welfare program. When the income stream is curtailed, you quickly curtail payroll as that is your largest expense as an employer. -Better- to tell the people to get other employment in the short term than to keep them in suspense. If the show resumes, those people can always be rehired if the old employees wish to return. -- ~~Philip "Never let school interfere with your education - Mark Twain" "Philip ®" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote in message news:<QCLgb.1969$av5.1205@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>... > In news:755eff52.0310071402.747af4b1@posting.google.com, > The Smiths <ken_andor_kathy@yahoo.com> being of bellicose mind [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > show resumes, those people can always be rehired if the old employees > wish to return. Now we are glad that Roy got hurt and am sorry that Siegfried didn't have to join him in the hospital. I am sure S has gone by to tuck R in at night though. Sweet little biatches those 2 are. Ken AND Kathy >"Philip ®" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net.invalid> wrote in message news:<QCLgb.1969$av5.1205@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>... >> In news:755eff52.0310071402.747af4b1@posting.google.com, [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >Ken AND Kathy Right back at ya. > "Never let school interfere with your education - Mark Twain" > ~~Philip Tell that to John E. Jaku-Hing Tommy Joe > > "Never let school interfere with your education - Mark Twain" > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Tommy Joe You post much will very little to say. Ollie > The "business" end of the Ziegfield and Roy show is run like a .... > business. It is not a welfare program. When the income stream is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > show resumes, those people can always be rehired if the old employees > wish to return. Catch here is there was a contract. And unless that contract stated (which I doubt it did) that the show could be cancelled unexpectedly for any reason (come on the Mirage wouldn't put out that type contract after S & R all these years) S & R as well as the production company and the Mirage all stand to be sued. Without that clause, they are legally obligated to pay out the contract. The Smiths <ken_andor_kathy@yahoo.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > The law of averages finally caught up. The animals have been > used and abused for many years, and one wonders if S&R will become > animal farm later. I don't believe S&R abuse any of their animals, but I believe that when the animal decides it doesn't feel like performing tonight, you better take heed. Now they're trying to spin it that the tiger was trying to "help" Roy. Uh huh. I really believe that... NOT SignatureBrandy??Alexandre? http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? |
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