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Cat Forum / General Topics / December 2004my poor kitty :(
I came home this morning, called out for my 13th month old only to eventually find her sitting by my door waiting for me (which, although not totally suprising, was unusual). When I opened the door, she *slowly* walked in the room and *slowly* sat down on the floor looking away from me. That was very unusual. I bent down to ask her what was wrong and found blood on her abdominal and to my horror, a crushed rear paw and bleeding tail. I immediately rushed her to the after hours vet where she got bandaged up. I was so worried and frightened and sad at the same time. This morning at 8am, I was able to make an appointment and take her into the animal hospital. They think they can save the leg but they're not sure. She is only 13 months old. I got her when she was six weeks old. She is the only cat I've ever owned and she's perfect. The things I like about her is her intelligence, the way she never uses her paws when playing with humans (soo very, very gentle), the way she trotts around, the way she's curious about *everything* (she has to sniff anything you present to her), the way she's very diligent about doing her 'business' (she always checks to make sure everything is all buried properly several times over). It's typical cat owner thoughts, but I think she's the most unique and perfect cat I've ever met. I'm sitting here waiting and I'm really hoping her leg will be ok :(. I've been feeling like such a terrible cat owner for not being there to look after her. She could have been sitting outside waiting for me to get home for hours ;((. If only...if only... :( What happened, happened. The only lesson you can learn from this is to keep your kitty indoor. Cats are territorial, and their natural instincts are to be outdoor. So, they often beg their humans to let them out. In turn, some humans think that it is cruel to keep their begging cats indoor. But cats developed their instincts long before there were SUVs, rat poisons, and malicious kids with box cutters. Good luck with your kitty. I hope she can keep her leg. Dik Unfortunately accidents happen. You cannot change the destiny, and you cannot blame yourself for it. I know only too well all about blaming myself for my QT's death, but deep down I know I couldn;t have changed what happened(He was run over). But it is a human nature, and the love for our babies that makes us blame ourselves for what happens. It is sad what happened to your girl. She may have been involved in a car accident or bitten by a larger animal. I;m sure the vets will do their best to save her leg, and check the internal organs are OK, and there is no internal bleeding. I know you don;t see it like this, but at least she is alive. You have been given a second chance. Second chance to love her and be with her. I haven;t had that chance. My QT was run over and died instantly 3 weeks before his 1st b-day. So pray to God for the best outcome, and even if the legs got to go, don;t worry, because cats can cope completely well on 3. In fact if anything, they will get much more love and affection from humans around :) Since my QT died, I have taken serious precotions of not allowing mine outdoors any more without a cat harness and a leash. There is 5 of them now, and they have a run of the house when we are at work. Cats do not HAVE to go out. They can be happy indoors providing you give them something to climb on, somthing to scrath, something to jump on and something to do, and a friend . I don;t feel guilty for going to work or scared if I will see them back in one peace when I'm back anymore. I feel they are safe, and cars can;t get to them. They are happy. They play with each other and have fun. Lots of people might disagree with keeping cats indoors, but if you are personally too worried to let her out again, i completely understand and sometimes you have to do what you have to do to protect your babies. If you decided you want to keep her indoors and want to know more about cat harnesses and how to train a cat to wear one, let me know. I'll tell you how I trained mine. I wish you the best at the vets tomorrow. I am surprised tho they decided to wait for a day to fix her leg, espeically if they think its in critical condition. If you can afford it, take her to another vet, or 24hr surgery where they will get her on table and fix that leg asap. Please let me know how things develop. I will be thinking and praying for you adn your baby. Wishing you the best. Gee > I came home this morning, called out for my 13th month old only to > eventually find her sitting by my door waiting for me (which, although not [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > after her. She could have been sitting outside waiting for me to get home > for hours ;((. If only...if only... :( >Unfortunately accidents happen. You cannot change the destiny, and you >cannot blame yourself for it. I know only too well all about blaming myself >for my QT's death, but deep down I know I couldn;t have changed what >happened(He was run over). But it is a human nature, and the love for our >babies that makes us blame ourselves for what happens. YOU COULD HAVE CHANGED IT BY KEEPING IT INDOORS !!!! ***************************************************** E-mail address altered to foil spam. Remove spam and junk to reply via e-mail. ***************************************************** > >Unfortunately accidents happen. You cannot change the destiny, and you > >cannot blame yourself for it. I know only too well all about blaming myself [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > YOU COULD HAVE CHANGED IT BY KEEPING IT INDOORS !!!! Stop yelling and stop flaming Whayface. Yelling will not make somebody change their mind. Reasonable discussion might. We had enough of Bob Brenchleys and those who just want to start war yet again here. Yelling doesn;t get you anywhere. You can;t bully people into doing things. You can only point out pluses and minuses and let them decide on their own. Had you read the rest of my post and in fact more of my posts over the last 5 years, you'd see where I stand. So if you gonna start yelling at people, make sure you know who you yelling at. Yelling at me again will only get you killfiled. Oh and thank you for your sentiments on my loss and Tum's pain. No, wait ,YOU DIDNT EXPRESS ANY DID YA! Had you however expressed that BEFORE you started yelling, maybe your words would have some positive effect, which is what I deep down believe you were trying to accomplish. This way: no-no. Doesn;t work. Change your tactics. >I'm sitting here waiting and I'm really hoping her leg will be ok :(. I've >been feeling like such a terrible cat owner for not being there to look >after her. She could have been sitting outside waiting for me to get home >for hours ;((. If only...if only... :( This is why my cats stay in my house and totally enclosed yard. I just can't take the worry. I've seen so many dead cats on the street, hit by cars, torn apart by dogs, poisoned by some nasty neighbor, beaten by a sicko kid. When I had a cat that was outdoors, I'd be a total wreck all the time worrying if he'd be dead when I got home. Not anymore. I can finally relax knowing that my cat can't be hurt that way. >>I'm sitting here waiting and I'm really hoping her leg will be ok :(. I've >>been feeling like such a terrible cat owner for not being there to look [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >be dead when I got home. Not anymore. I can finally relax knowing that my cat >can't be hurt that way. Just the thought of my furbabies being outside makes me worry. I can not imagine that. http://members.aol.com/larrystark/ ***************************************************** E-mail address altered to foil spam. Remove spam and junk to reply via e-mail. ***************************************************** Oh thats terrible. Remember its not your fault, and there is nothing you could have done to stop this. Here in the UK, keeping cats INDOORS is frowned upon more than keeping indoor / outdoor cats, so do noit let anyone make you feel bad for giving your cat the freedom of the outdoors. It is a huge risk, but so is letting your child walk to school alone, or crossing a busy road. Life is full of these choices which are dangerous. For anyone who is ANTI-OUTDOOR, please dont flame. I understand and respect your points, and I personally would not let my cats out without knowing they could not escape my own "safety area". But you have to respect that some people have the compolete opposite opinion. Last weel I was branded cruel for keeping three cats in my house without ever letting them out!!! Regards, Gary. Man, please ignore my spelling :) I am SOOOOOOOO tired just now... <buggers of to bed... In the worst case the cat will do fine on three legs, but you'll need to keep her indoors. Adam "Tum" tum@NOSPAMveridicus.com writes >I came home this morning, called out for my 13th month old only to >eventually find her sitting by my door waiting for me .... found >blood on her abdominal and to my horror, >a crushed rear paw and bleeding >tail. I immediately rushed her to the after hours vet where she got >bandaged up....They think they can save the leg but they're not sure. I'm sorry to hear the news..really sorry, and I do pray for her NOT to lose her leg. The poor baby. But, I must tell you that YOU ARE ONE OF MANY WHO HAVE POSTED ABOUT A SERIOUS INJURY THAT HAPPENED TO YOUR OUTDOOR CAT(S). I wonder why this continues. > I'm sorry to hear the news..really sorry, and I do pray for her NOT to > lose her [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > wonder > why this continues. Cats love being outdoors, and some owners love letting their cats outdoors. Its not wrong, and its encouraged here in the UK. Gary. |> I'm sorry to hear the news..really sorry, and I do pray for her NOT to | > lose her [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | | Gary. Same here, further down in Europe. Micky was born outside and was always outside apart from a short time in the shelter (where he could go outside too); He'd scream the place down if he could not go outside. Now that it's cold outside he's inside more often, but he's truly depressed. He's put about 3 lbs on since October. In Summer he's outside even during the night; unless it rains he just pops in quickly to eat. It would be impossible to keep him inside, he'd be very unhappy. Carola "Gary" g@g.com writes luvskats wrote > I'm sorry to hear the news..really sorry, >and I do pray for her NOT to lose her > leg. The poor baby. But, I must tell you >that YOU ARE ONE OF MANY WHO > HAVE POSTED ABOUT A SERIOUS >INJURY THAT HAPPENED TO YOUR >OUTDOOR CAT(S). I wonder why this >continues. >>Cats love being outdoors, and some >>owners love letting their cats outdoors. >>Its not wrong, and its encouraged here >>in the UK. I know the indoor/outdoor issue will NEVER be settled, but as a "keepin' the cat inside" supporter, I cringe or cry when I hear about pets' needless deaths/severe injuries or the news that the pet never came home. > I know the indoor/outdoor issue will NEVER be settled, but as a "keepin' > the > cat inside" supporter, I cringe or cry when I hear about pets' needless > deaths/severe injuries or the news that the pet never came home. I too dont like it, but again its one of those things which will always happen unfortunately. I would love to own a house in the country with a massive field, and trees and no major roads near by. I would certainly let my cats out in such an environment, hopefully much safer than the city. Do foxes and other country animals (dogs obviously do), attack cats? Gary. >> I know the indoor/outdoor issue will NEVER be settled, but as a "keepin' >> the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Gary. I have seen a fox and cat appeared to be fighting at the side of the highway one night about 6 month ago and stopped to break it up. I pulled over the fox ran one way and cat ran the other. Its hard to tell who had attacked who though or who would have won, the cat certainly didnt look afraid and was holding it's own from what little I could see. It seemed the fight had just started though. . Do foxes and other country animals (dogs obviously do), attack cats? Although cats are not fox's first choice of dinner, if fox is starving, it will attack a cat. I spoke to RSPCA vet couple of years ago, and she said they are getting more and more cases in and not just on country side. Me and my neighbours always leave some food for foxes and stray cats, especially in the winter. Foxes have one of the most difficult lives of all animals. | . Do foxes and other country animals (dogs obviously do), attack cats? | [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | especially in the winter. Foxes have one of the most difficult lives of all | animals. Why do the foxes multiply so much then? Here the government warns not to feed them. They are becoming a real problem and get very very cheeky. On several occasions they have bitten people. Carola "M.C. Mullen" <mcmullen@freesurf.invalid.ch> wrote in message news:41be5f36$0$963 > | Me and my neighbours always leave some food for foxes and stray cats, > | especially in the winter. Foxes have one of the most difficult lives of > all | animals. > | > Why do the foxes multiply so much then? Why do humans? Why do cats? Why do all the animals? (Odd question.) Its called survival. That is probably exactly why they multiply "so much". However personally I don;t think is " so much". We rarely have more then 2-3 foxes on the block every year. > Here the government warns not to feed them. Goverment also tells you dropping bombs on various countries is OK. Goverment also tells you paying taxes so that rich can get even richer is OK. I can hardly consider governement exactly the most influental people in ones life! In fact, politicians are far the worse! Can you just imagine telling your son you want him to be JUST like Tony Blair?URGH! What a scary thought! > They are becoming a real problem and get very very cheeky. Oh really. Animals are now called cheeky cos they are trying to survive? Humans are not cheeky for invading their lands and taking their food away? Comon!!!! >> On several occasions they have bitten people. Good. Had those people fed them and helped them out when they are starving like we do, maybe they wouldn;t need to search for food elsewhere! Don;t forget the good old saying: "it;s NEVER the animal! I't s awalys the HUMAN!" God has given us all a place to be. But no,that wasn;t good enough! Humans had to be greedy! When are the people going to start undertanding that HUMANS have invaded animal land. We have reduced their food resources and their living spaces. If we do not put back into their community, they will be FORCED to take it themselves. It;s called basic respect for other living creatures. You can;t just take your neighbours house and expect him to be happy about it can ya? So how do you suppose animals feel! > Good. Had those people fed them and helped them out when they are starving > like we do, maybe they wouldn;t need to search for food elsewhere! Don;t [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > just take your neighbours house and expect him to be happy about it can ya? > So how do you suppose animals feel! Reading back, my reply may have been a bit too stroppy, so sorry about that. But just to clarify, my opinion is still the same, however I put it, cos its really breaking my heart to watch the really tuff life animals have to lead outside. I love foxes to bits, in fact I love all animals, and I really find it hard to understand how some people can love their pet, but hate or dislike some other poor living creature. I blame the school/education system. We must pass all the cr#p exams year after year after year, such as maths and foreign language, and chemistry and physics and blah blah. But Animal and Human education doesn;t not seem to be important. Nobody teaches RESPECT. We learn all about Newton and square root, but nobody teaches you about how to raise a child or how to appreciate/train animals. There is no REAL LIFE education in our system, in any country, and its no wonder humans turn out to be bad parents with kids needing shrinks and torturing animals being a pass time for some idiotic teenagers. This is not a personal attack Corina at you, its just my generalized moan really :) > I blame the school/education system. We must pass all the cr#p exams year > after year after year, such as maths and foreign language, and chemistry [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > root, but nobody teaches you about how to raise a child or how to > appreciate/train animals. Don't blame the schools for that. That's the job of the parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, neighbours and friends. > > I blame the school/education system. We must pass all the cr#p exams year > > after year after year, such as maths and foreign language, and chemistry > > and physics and blah blah. But Animal and Human education doesn;t not seem to > > be important. Nobody teaches RESPECT. We learn all about Newton and square > > root, but nobody teaches you about how to raise a child or how to > > appreciate/train animals. > > Don't blame the schools for that. That's the job of the parents, aunts, > uncles, grandparents, neighbours and friends. I;ve never met anybody who thought her child, nephew, grandchild etc about how to raise a child BEFORE they even had one! Thats just not something people talk about, until it enters their lives. So yes I do blame education system and schools, because, had the children been thought this things from the age of say 9, maybe they'd think twice before getting into a mess, or making a mess of their and the life of a child. Rarely any parent knows much about raising a kid. My parents used to beat me up. When I recently finally confronted my mum about it, after over 30 years, she said "I didn;t know any better, I thought that is how you punish a child". Unfortunately that is true for many people to day. They simply don;t KNOW any better, and learn wrong lessons from people who also don;t know any better. Or think they know. People have to pass the exam to get driving permit. Have to pass exams to finish school and get a job. But no exam is needed in the most important job of all: having children. If we don;t learn it in school, nobody will teach us, BEFORE its too late. Britain has one of the highest rates of teenage pregnancies in the world. Where are those parents/gramps/aunties and why are they NOT teaching them anything?? Cos they don;t know either! Or they are at work! Or they simply do not see that their child is not a child! Just how many families do you know that openly discuss sex with their children? I know none. And I know a LOT of people. No wonder aids is spreading fast. Same for appreciating the animals. How will parents and others pass the knowledge to a child, when they don;t have it? And those who think they do, might be doing it the wrong way, just like my mum. I;ve seen so many parent introduce the hate for animals in their child because they are scared of them themselves, so they keep pulling the kid away from say a cat, and ignorantly keep reinforcing into their childs head how "cat will scratch you and bite you, so don;t go near". Fear settles fast. And there is rarely a way out of that. Just paranoia, hate and ultimately animal abuse. Most serial killers kicked off their "career" as animal abusers and animal killers... So no, human and animal education is NOT for the parents/family/friends. It should be part of school curriculum. Animals should be brought into schools, or live in there, like some schools do have rabbits, guinea pigs, snakes, mice etc. My friend's daughter's school gave each girl in class(15 yrs old) a lifelike baby-doll to take home for a weekend. That doll was fantastic: same weight, same habits and most importantly same screaming like the real one. They had to feed her, change her, walk her, shake her and calm her down. She soon learned having a baby is NOT an easy job and she will now think twice before deciding to have a kid. Now that is a GOOD education. Shame this is NOT happening in every school. And before 15. "Gary" gary@garywhittle.co.uk writes >"...I would love to own a house in the >country with a >massive field, and trees and no major roads near by. I would certainly let >my cats out in such an environment, hopefully much safer than the city. Do >foxes and other country animals (dogs >obviously do), attack cats? I would certainly seek the answer - backwards/forwards/sideways - before I let my dearies outside....along with scouring the area for possible animal traps! :-) > I know the indoor/outdoor issue will NEVER be settled, but as a "keepin' > the > cat inside" supporter, I cringe or cry when I hear about pets' needless > deaths/severe injuries or the news that the pet never came home. And some of us cringe when we hear of cats needlessly (ie where there are no exceptional dangers) kept cooped up indoors, unable to enjoy the fun and stimulation of the outdoors. Two sides to every story. >......found blood on her abdominal and to my horror, a crushed rear paw and bleeding > tail. I immediately rushed her to the after hours vet where she got > bandaged up. I was so worried and frightened and sad at the same time. > This morning at 8am, I was able to make an appointment and take her into the > animal hospital. They think they can save the leg but they're not sure. Hi Tum, what happened at the vets? How's she doin? Hi Gee, Thanks for asking! She's back home today after some major surgery. She lost 2 toes on her hind left foot and the end of her tail (not sure where they ended up ;((( ). The vet wasn't sure whether he would have to amputate her leg or not cause her other toes looked pretty bad but she's healed pretty well (I knew she would). She's always really well behaved -- doesn't struggle when the vet needs to examine her, doesn't try to pull her bandages off (etc) so the vet thinks she'll make a 'full' recovery. It's only been a couple of days and she's pretty frisky now she's home -- it's pretty hard trying to stop her from jumping around on her other 3 legs! Considering how horrific the injury looked (I'll spare you the details) I'm very happy about her recovery. All the best, ^Tum >>......found blood on her abdominal and to my horror, a crushed rear paw > and bleeding [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Hi Tum, what happened at the vets? How's she doin? I also want to add a big thank you to all the people who sent kind messages of regard. > Hi Gee, > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> >> Hi Tum, what happened at the vets? How's she doin? | Hi Gee, | [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | her leg or not cause her other toes looked pretty bad but she's healed | pretty well (I knew she would). She's always really well behaved -- doesn't | struggle when the vet needs to examine her, doesn't try to pull her bandages | off (etc) so the vet thinks she'll make a 'full' recovery. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] | | ^Tum Nice to hear that the cat is getting better. Could she have been squashed in a door? Carola > Hi Gee, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > All the best, I;m really glad she is recovering well, and that she hasn;t lost the leg. She'll do fine without couple of toes and tip of tail Do you know what happened? Regards Gee Really glad to hear that. Good luck. Java > Hi Gee, > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > Hi Tum, what happened at the vets? How's she doin? :I came home this morning, called out for my 13th month old only to : eventually find her sitting by my door waiting for me (which, although not [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] : after her. She could have been sitting outside waiting for me to get home : for hours ;((. If only...if only... :( Please be thankful that you baby cat is alive. > :I came home this morning, called out for my 13th month old only to > : eventually find her sitting by my door waiting for me (which, although not [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Please be thankful that you baby cat is alive. And for Christ's sake keep her inside. |
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