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Cat Forum / General Topics / January 2005What Happened??
Did a 12 Volt Battery kill my cat? Waking out of bed, I saw my cat "leap" backwards and fall about 4 feet to a table top... Grabbing my glasses, I saw and thought that he was having a convulsion... got to him within seconds and commenced Mouth-To-Mouth to No Avail... he was but 4 years and healthy... Investigating the area he was in when I saw the Backwards "leap", I discovered the wire between a 12 Volt Battery and 12 Volt Lamp was unplugged... Is it Possible he licked the bare wires and the charge from the 12 Volt Batt had Sufficient Current to kill him? Naughtius "Broken Hearted" Maximus >Did a 12 Volt Battery kill my cat? I would add it is possible but not likely. Remember it is not the voltage but the amperage that would harm the cat and the battery is very limited in the amount of amperage it can provide. >>Did a 12 Volt Battery kill my cat? > I would add it is possible but not likely. Remember it is > not the voltage but the amperage that would harm the cat > and the battery is very limited in the amount of > amperage it can provide. Exactly... And the Reason I'm just DUMBFOUNDED... I just can't believe that a [UPS] Battery could... I *Don't* Believe that it could develop that much current on a simple Cat Lick... if that's what Actually Happened... I didn't, after all, have my glasses on... But geez... he acted like he was Lightning Struck... I thought "Distemper"... can a cat suffer Distemper? It seemed like he was dead before I could put a hand on him... BUMMER... Anyone know of some disease or condition that could do this? Naughtius "The World Sucks" Maximus > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet > News==---- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 > Newsgroups > ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- 12 volts can't kill or damage a cat. That's why we use low-voltage appliances: They are safe. If you touch your tongue to both terminals of, for example, a 9-volt battery, you'll get a little tickle, but no harm. To do damage, you need a lot of current, induced by a high voltage, to pass through the major organs of your body. A 12-volt shock across the tongue might cause a cat to jump in the air in surprise, but the effect shouldn't be any greater than a sudden noise. It fails to damage on two counts: Not enough energy, and current flow does not cross a major organ. Of course, the UPS itself, which steps up the voltage to 117, might cause harm, just as an electric socket can. But you're talking about the battery connections, not the UPS. "Naughtius "The Twinkies Made Me Do It" Maximus" <globbo@BUTTFUCKjesus.org> wrote in message news:Q_2dne7Vx-2UtTPcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com... > Did a 12 Volt Battery kill my cat? > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Naughtius "Broken Hearted" Maximus >Of course, the UPS itself, which steps up the voltage to 117, might cause >harm, just as an electric socket can. But you're talking about the battery >connections, not the UPS. I would add though a cat with a heart condition could be vulnerable to something like this. Maybe the cat had an undiagnosed heart condition? Something like this won't effect a healthy cat, but a cat with a heart condition could be effected. > I would add though a cat with a heart condition could be vulnerable > to something like this. Maybe the cat had an undiagnosed heart > condition? Something like this won't effect a healthy cat, but > a cat with a heart condition could be effected. That's why I noted that the current path would not cross the heart. This is important: Electricity will only do direct damage along the path of the current. This is why, for example, electricians will approach a live wire with one hand in a pocket. The worst thing you can do is touch the live wire with one hand and a ground with another, because then the current flows through your chest, and may damage your heart. A battery is much safer than A/C (like a wall socket), because the battery requires a connection to its other pole, whereas A/C will flow to ground. So, as described, the very worst that could happen to the cat would be a burned tongue. You might be able to tell if the tongue is burned by looking at the body. Someone else noted the high cranking amperage of a car battery, and how it could make an impressive arc if you shorted it with a screwdriver. That's true; car batteries pack a punch (they're BIG!), but they're pretty safe unless you short them with a conductor. You can't get a shock from a car battery by putting a hand on each terminal. You're not a good enough conductor for the 12-volt source to flow through your body. Yeah, if you put two wires from the battery into your mouth, you'd get a hell of a burn, but the damage would still be localized; that is, it wouldn't kill you. But I'd advise against doing that nevertheless. >>Of course, the UPS itself, which steps up the voltage to 117, might cause >>harm, just as an electric socket can. But you're talking about the battery [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >condition? Something like this won't effect a healthy cat, but >a cat with a heart condition could be effected. Why wouldn't it "effect" a cat without a heart condition? eq >----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- >http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups >---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- I'm so sorry to hear about your cat. My heart goes out to you. Vets do autopsies, you may want to investigate it... Sounds like he may have had something wrong in his head and he flipped out like that... may have been a hemorage or something on that order, I'm not a vet... I'm sorry for you though... "Naughtius "The Twinkies Made Me Do It" Maximus" <globbo@BUTTFUCKjesus.org> wrote in message news:Q_2dne7Vx-2UtTPcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com... > Did a 12 Volt Battery kill my cat? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Naughtius "Broken Hearted" Maximus Car batteries can spark and shock people with 12 volts. What is the size of the battery in question? Electricity can cause muscles to clamp so you can't let go. Judging from the jump, it sounds like it wasn't an extended time period. I worry about my cat, because I have lots of wires, but she's still alive. I'm not an electical engineer, but have worked as a technician. Car batteries are advertised by the 'Cold Cranking Amps' they can put out. A car, I've read a car uses 80 AMPS to turn its starter. Naturally more amps the colder the day the harder to turn the cold oil in the crankcase. Try shorting one with a screwdriver and the arc you'll draw will scare the beejesus out of you. A UPS (uninterruptable power supply?) may be capable of delivering more than a few amps, I would think. Since you SAW this take place, I wouldn't be too quick to discount the effects of the UPS. Find out what current it'll deliver. Earl >"Naughtius "The Twinkies Made Me Do It" Maximus" <globbo@BUTTFUCKjesus.org> >wrote in message news:Q_2dne7Vx-2UtTPcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com... [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >time period. I worry about my cat, because I have lots of wires, but she's >still alive. A 1000va APC UPS or whatever the power suppy is, is only about 10 amps... I've felt 10amps dc before, lick a 9 volt battery... same idea... Once more 1000va is a large power suppy considering its 1000va number... most hosehold and "Walmart" shoppers only get at most 500 or 600 va.... (5 / 6 amps) a 9 volt has more kick to it... but the power supplys are bigger to give that power out constently... the cat would have had to be stuck there... but he jumped... he got less then 9 volts at the most. if it was AC current 10 amps is enough to kill you... a hair dryer is about 10 to 13 amps... He might have just been scared.... or had somehting else wrong at the same time... I've seen my uncle have sezures before... he would hop up and down out of no where... you never know until an autopse... Why has no-one sussed that the OP is bullshitting ? > "Naughtius "The Twinkies Made Me Do It" Maximus" > <globbo@BUTTFUCKjesus.org> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > she's > still alive. "Naughtius "The Twinkies Made Me Do It" Maximus" <globbo@BUTTFUCKjesus.org> wrote in message news:Q_2dne7Vx-2UtTPcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com... > Did a 12 Volt Battery kill my cat? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Naughtius "Broken Hearted" Maximus Another stray thought is a poisonous spider, although I would expect a slower death from that. Cats are fairly fall resistant, however if he's unconscious in the air, he might land wrong. was there any other animals in the house... cats are not perfect... maybe he was sleeping and woke bad, jumped and landed bad... "Naughtius "The Twinkies Made Me Do It" Maximus" <globbo@BUTTFUCKjesus.org> wrote in message news:Q_2dne7Vx-2UtTPcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com... > Did a 12 Volt Battery kill my cat? > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Naughtius "Broken Hearted" Maximus First of all, I'm sorry about your cat. Second, it could have been something different than the battery. Maybe the cat had an brain bleed from an annurysm. They can break and kill you in a heartbeat or two. The pain from it breaking could have caused him to leap but he would have been dead in seconds. |
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