| Naw...I figured it out. You're the alpha cat and they are acknowledging
| that. It is a subtle act of clan ettiqutte that they wait for the alpha
| dominant of the pack (You) to have their fill.
> Now honestly, I've read this again and again that cats see us as sort of
> cats, even in cat books.
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> Carola
I don't think it's a question of stupidity. I believe what is meant is
that cats socialize to their human keepers similar to how they
would socialize to another cat. It's not that they can't tell the
difference, or that they think humans are large, funny-looking cats --
it's a question of how they fit us into their "world view," as it were. I
have read that we are seen by them as mother figures and they treat us
accordingly. I've also read that cats tend not to vocalize with other
cats except under specific circumstances (fighting, mating, sometimes
playing), but cats frequently vocalize to their human charges. Mine
certainly doesn't hesitate to meow at me when she wants something. And
kittens *are* vocal with their mothers.
Also, my cat will sometimes "knead" me with her paws, like kittens do to
their mothers when they're feeding. (A friend of mine refers to it as
"making muffins.") In all the years she and her sister were together, I
never saw either of them do that to each other, even though one would
sometimes groom the other. So I think there's something to the
mother-figure idea, but again, it doesn't mean your cat thinks you are,
literally, her mother.

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Lee - 04 Dec 2004 13:20 GMT
"Michael M." <hfrargspam@msbx.net> wrote in message
> I don't think it's a question of stupidity. I believe what is meant is
> that cats socialize to their human keepers similar to how they
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> mother-figure idea, but again, it doesn't mean your cat thinks you are,
> literally, her mother.
I agree with this idea. My 18 yearold formerly feral cat will come to
me as i sit watching TV, stare at me with those huge ver yellow eyes
and wait for an invite to get on my lap and if she doesn't get one,
will sadly either lay down at my feet or on the couch next to my
chair. She very very very seldom meows. If she is invited, she will
jump up and slowly walk up my lap ( she is slow as frozen molasses!)
and look at me out of the top of her eyes, kneed my leg and expect me
to scratch the jaws and throat. She will lay there for as long as i am
there and after the petting, go sound asleep. She always sleeps on my
bed if i leave the door open. She never gets on the "man of the
house's" lap, but will follow both of us around if her food is getting
a bit low, or if she is thinking that we are going somewhere. She
likes to keep track of both of us, likes the Man-O-T-H to rub her
back, but more as a very good friend. I am the mother figure.
The new, 6 month old feral, Lucky, who we just adopted three months
ago, talks to me but does not do the loud meowing bit, wants to
suckle my arms... which I can't tolerate... along with the kneeding,
but never tried to suckle the Man-o-t-h. He, too, keeps track of us
both like a child would his parents. Being young, he is quite active,
but will not get really rough with me, but will get rough with the
older cat who has developed a love hate relationship. The old cat is
very jealous, and will not tolerate the little one near me if she is
on my lap, but I am getting her to be a bit more lenient. She will
agravate the little one with her tail lashing knowing full well the
little cat can't resist trying to catch that tail! They will fight,
the little one the instigator, but finally after about 2 months, they
have taken to grooming each other, ..never kneeding...but still with
the mischievious rough play by the young cat and the older cat very
irritated, hissing, growling, low moaning growl... and having to run
and hide a lot. The little one thinks he is playing.
Like any child, the little one will somewhat mind a sterner father
figure but will take advantage of a more compliant mother figure. I
think the little cat grovels on the floor to get his tummy ruffled and
let us know he really wants a lot of attention and wants to play. He
will run and jump up my jeans legs and slide down, run at me and hit
my leg and bounce off, run and jump into one of his baskets, curl up
inside and pop his head up and coyly blink at me wanting to play....or
just curl up and immediately go to sleep... or jump up and run lickety
split through the house and in and out of the kitty door into the
garage. But he always ends up several a few times a day on my
(momma's)lap, worn out and after a good rub down, a good totally
relaxed nap.
Lee/leo