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Cat Forum / General Topics / November 2004Worried about cat
Last year I got two kittens, both from the same litter and both males. They were very close to each other and were always together. About three months after I got them, one of them got run over while I was out as the person I was living with let him out. Naturally I was devastated and angry, but I won't go into that. A few weeks after, I got the remaining one a new friend.. another kitten (a female). He gets along ok with her. He's not as affectionate as he was to the other, but they seem ok together. Now a few weeks ago, to avoid another accident, I got an enclosure built for them. I hate leaving them in there, but it's for their own good.. or is it. This is what I'm worried about. The male cat, the one who lost his friend, seems to be upset all the time and very distant... like he never got over it.. and now he seems even more upset. Before I saw him sleeping with his head in the ground. All he does is sleep and eat and mopes around.. doesn't look happy at all. I feel he's not having a very good life.... This is all since I built the enclosure and have been leaving them in there. I think he thinks I'm punishing him or something... I used to let him roam around, but that was only because the person I was living in wouldn't allow them inside when I was at work, and I've only just found time/money to get the enclosure built.. but at least he was happy before. What do others think?? >The male cat, the one who lost his friend, seems to be upset all the >time and very distant... like he never got over it.. and now he seems [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >What do others think?? What's your enclosure like? Is it large enough they can play, with toys in it, etc.? Honestly, I think you might consider a check-up. Cats don't really "pout" for an extended time. But they *do* have very subtle ways of showing they are not feeling well. A normal, young kitten should never just eat, sleep, and mope around. I think there might be a physical cause. Sherry Get a new roommate, or no roommate, and let your kittens inside. You're missing out on a lot of good kitten stuff, and so are they. -bonbon bonbon <not@taking.replies> wrote in news:v2ihp0ds5mrbmp3aunu4ineo25p5ub639p@ 4ax.com: > Get a new roommate, or no roommate, and let your kittens inside. > You're missing out on a lot of good kitten stuff, and so are they. > > -bonbon Agreed. The roommate would go before I endangered my cats, either psychologically or physically.  SignatureWayne in Phoenix *If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. *A mind is a terrible thing to lose. << only because the person I was living in wouldn't allow them inside when I was at work, and I've only just found time/money to get the enclosure built.. but at least he was happy before. What do others think?? >> I think you're living with the wrong person. www.mimiforsyth.com ><< only because the person I >was living in wouldn't allow them inside when I was at work, and I've [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >I think you're living with the wrong person. Ditto. Time to find a new room-mate. DES Save 1 life and you're a hero. Save 230 million and you're a Starfleet officer. remove "nospam" from my addy to reply. I'm not entirely sure I understand, but it seems like the roommate is your problem. Is it true that these cats spend all their time in the enclosure? Because of your roommate? If that is the case, you must realy consider other living arrangements. I can't imagine living with someone who is that cruel. People who are as cruel to animals (and the people who love them) as this person is are usually cruel to people also, so please consider moving on. Once again I'm not sure I usderstood the dynamics of your situation, I hope I have not overstepped here. Minus > Last year I got two kittens, both from the same litter and both males. > They were very close to each other and were always together. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > What do others think?? Sorry all.. I didn't explain properly. I only leave them in the enclosure while I'm at work. Whenever I'm home, they're always inside. My roommate just doesn't want me leaving them inside when we're both at work (which is all day every weekday).... and that's why I got them the enclosure. So they won't run out on the road. The enclosure is pretty big. It's about 12ft high, 8ft wide and about 15 metres in length with two gates up each end. One side of it is a concrete path and down the other side is all garden/bushes. There's shade cloth over the top so it's nice and cool in there. I always leave two big bowls of water incase they get thirsty and food each morning. There's some toys in there and a cat hammock type thing aswell. > I'm not entirely sure I understand, but it seems like the roommate is > your problem. Is it true that these cats spend all their time in the [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> >>What do others think?? > Sorry all.. I didn't explain properly. I only leave them in the > enclosure while I'm at work. Whenever I'm home, they're always inside. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > each morning. There's some toys in there and a cat hammock type thing > aswell. I'd still get a new roommate - what on earth is wrong with leaving cats inside when no-one's at home as long as there's a litter tray or catflap so that they don't mess in the house? SignatureI.P.Freely | Sorry all.. I didn't explain properly. I only leave them in the | enclosure while I'm at work. Whenever I'm home, they're always inside. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] | each morning. There's some toys in there and a cat hammock type thing | aswell. Are the cats behaving any different when they're in the home with you? Look, we had a few really crazy kittens over the past years. Once they were 1 1/2 years old they all turned into real bores, no more playing, only sleeping and eating and going on business trips (they could be workaholics?). So it might just be a natural thing that your tom is not so active now. But if he's different in the home, then it could be the enclosure. Most cats like to be outside though. What about getting a 2nd hand old cat tree or a big branch from the woods for them? Carola bjg no@spam writes >Sorry all.. I didn't explain properly....My roommate just doesn't want me leaving them inside when we're both at >work (which is all day every weekday). You did explain it properly, you just didn't understand the responses. What the consensus appears to be, is.....if your roommate doesn't want the cats inside during the day (where the cats should be...INSIDE) then, you should replace the roommate with a person who is more of a cat person....someone who actually likes the idea and embraces the idea of having cats inside the home. > bjg no@spam writes > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > roommate with a person who is more of a cat person....someone who actually > likes the idea and embraces the idea of having cats inside the home. But the cats don't like being inside either, at least during the day. When I'm at home on weekends they stand at the door most of the day 'cause they wanna go out. If I had it my way I would have them inside all the time (well I used to, and when I came home the cats wanted to go out), but since that isn't really an option at the moment and the fact they don't like staying inside 24/7, I think an enclosure is the next best thing. There is not much difference since they have shelter in the enclosure and are at least outside where they like to be. >But the cats don't like being inside either, at least during the day. >When I'm at home on weekends they stand at the door most of the day [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >is not much difference since they have shelter in the enclosure and are >at least outside where they like to be. What was more disturbing to me is that you have a relatively young cat that you say only eats, sleeps and mopes around. That's not normal for a young cat. They don't act like that for extended periods because they're mad, or sad. Sometimes that's the only way they tell us they aren't feeling well. Sherry bjg no@spam writes >"... I think an enclosure is the next best thing...they have shelter in the enclosure >and are at least outside where they like >to be. I'm hoping, then, you live in a very secure area where no person or group can come in and cause harm to the cats. > bjg no@spam writes > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > can > come in and cause harm to the cats. Lord, I hate to think what sort of area you live in! Ashley" ashleyjaneSPAMOFF@xtra.co.nz writes >"Luvskats00" wrote >I'm hoping, then, you live in a very secure >area where no person or group can >come in and cause harm to the cats. >>Lord, I hate to think what sort of area >you live in! On the planet Earth, actually. I did a quick search on Google (pet thefts, stealing cats, feline abductions, etc) and came across scores of websites from Aukland to Pennsylvania. Pets could be taken for a variety of reasons ranging from cruelty to supplying research labs to obtaining reward money. >bjg no@spam writes > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I'm hoping, then, you live in a very secure area where no person or group can >come in and cause harm to the cats. Agreed. I've got an enclosure for my cats: http://web.newsguy.com/equalizer/gate_1.jpg In a pretty secure, safe area. None the less, I'd NEVER dream of letting them out unattended in it while I'm not around. eq > bjg no@spam writes > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I'm hoping, then, you live in a very secure area where no person or group can > come in and cause harm to the cats. The enclosure is locked up. I ask what is the difference to that and leaving them inside the house? They also get more exercise in the enclosure. bjg no@spam writes > I ask what is the difference to that and >leaving them inside the house? >They also get more exercise in the >enclosure. Outside Enclosure vs. Inside The Home Don't you think that an outside cage in a backyard would be easier to access than a house/trailer/apartment which is locked up? RE: worried about cat The majority seems to think you are living with the wrong person....I agree...but on another note: I'm sorry Sherry, but cats really DO pout!...as a matter of fact they grieve just like the rest of us! When my Bubba died, his soulmate "Baby" cried and hid under the bed, and wouldn't let anyone touch her for almost a year...she was devastated. So your little kitty who lost his brother isn't too keen on his new buddy. I'd bet money he'd prefer a male buddy....seriously consider changing your living arrangements, and put your roommate outside. Launa this is a real easy one. get rid of the __person__ you are living with ASAP and let the cats out of the enclosure to run about the house freely. koyaanisqatsi **************************************************************** * "Reality is that which, when one stops believing in it, does * * not go away."--???? * **************************************************************** > Last year I got two kittens, both from the same litter and both males. > They were very close to each other and were always together. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > What do others think?? |
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