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John Moran - 31 Aug 2003 16:15 GMT Hi there
We are planning a 6 month trip around the world and have 2 very cute cats who, at the moment, we can't find a home for.
We were wondering if there was some kindly soul - preferably in the south London area - who would be willing to look after them while we are away. We will of course meet all food, litter and vet costs and will also be happy to reciprocate if you need a holiday home for your cats.
They are brother and sister - Oscar is all black and Edie is black with white bits. They are 4 years old.
Hope to hear from somebody
John
~*SooZy*~ - 31 Aug 2003 18:16 GMT John try posting in freeuk.pets.co.uk and I am sure there are other cat websites that may be able to help you out. Many people may be put off as 6 months is a long time, and the cats will settle and bond with them, then they have to hand them back! :-(
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> Hi there > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > John MaryL - 31 Aug 2003 18:50 GMT > Hi there > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > John John,
You didn't ask for other suggestions, but this occurred to me: Would it be feasible to arrange for someone to stay in your house or apartment during the time you are gone in exchange for caring for your cats? Of course, you may already have made other arrangements for your home -- but if not, this could be a "good deal" all around. You would have someone to take care of your cats and would not have a vacant home for 6 months (which is sometimes an open invitation to burglars), the cats could stay in their own environment without having their lives disrupted, and the person who stays there could do so for minimal cost (utilities, etc.).
MaryL
M.C. Mullen - 01 Sep 2003 12:24 GMT | > Hi there | > | > We are planning a 6 month trip around the world | > and have 2 very cute cats who, at the moment, we | > can't find a home for.
| John, | [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] | environment without having their lives disrupted, and the person who stays | there could do so for minimal cost (utilities, etc.). Would just *love* to spend half a year in London! But I have to work and look after kids and pets. :-( Guess you could try the local paper, and, of course, all your friends who could ask all their friends. In case you *have* to bring them to the cattery: For such a long time you might be able to get a special price, especially if it's out of season. Good luck.
Carola
Pet-Rescue - 31 Aug 2003 23:02 GMT John Moran
: Hope to hear from somebody ..
You could try the pet-rescue forums..leave your details there, you never know? http://www.pet-rescue.org.uk/forums
Anyway, best of luck, John!
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James - 31 Aug 2003 23:42 GMT John Moran <johnmoran1@lineone.net> wrote on Sun, 31 Aug 2003:
>Hi there > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >would be willing to look after them while we are >away. John, you may want to consider having someone living in your home. A cattery would disrupt them and keeping them caged for such a long time would be unkind, but might be the best option. Try Homesitters (don't know their details, but they have a web site) or Universal Aunts 020 7738 8987. It may not be that costly for 6 months. Worth a try.
There are fosterers but they're few and far between, and they usually have other cats around.
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DarkHills - 01 Sep 2003 00:22 GMT > John Moran <johnmoran1@lineone.net> wrote on Sun, 31 Aug 2003: >>Hi there [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > There are fosterers but they're few and far between, and they usually > have other cats around. I'll second this, it's an excellent idea if you can find someone.
I have cat-lover friends who will take my furries in if they need care. They are some of my best friends.
OTOH you have to know it's someone you can trust. I'm lucky that way.
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Jean H - 03 Sep 2003 07:18 GMT Ithink eitheprofetionals would be better or someone from this programme I had someone to live in when I went to England for 6 weekswho already professed to love my cat, and was a friend. I gave instructions verbally, and also left them on the the fridge in writing especially about not letting him out too early when still dark as possums had already attacked him once, also left him lots of fresh chicken I cut up ready and put in separate one for every night I was away, tins galore, 5 big packets of dry food, when I returned half the food was still there and he'd gone from 9point 3 kilos to 8 kl also she'd let him out at 4 a m every morning and it cost 2oo dollars to have his back fixed up where a possum had got to him I'm still fuming 6 yrs later,about the possum not the money she wanted to stay in the house but couldn;t be bothered looking after him properly, never again! jp
> John Moran <johnmoran1@lineone.net> wrote on Sun, 31 Aug 2003: > >Hi there [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > -- > James Cat Protector - 03 Sep 2003 07:49 GMT Why didn't you sue this individual?
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> Ithink eitheprofetionals would be better or someone from this > programme I had someone to live in when I went to England [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > -- > > James Mogie - 01 Sep 2003 16:50 GMT Geeze they don't plan on paying someone for boarding their cats. If they can afford to go around the world they could spring for boarding at a kennel.
> Hi there > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > John ~*SooZy*~ - 31 Aug 2003 18:19 GMT > Geeze they don't plan on paying someone for boarding their cats. If they can > afford to go around the world they could spring for boarding at a kennel. it would cost about ?2,000 a lot of money, plus very unfair on the cats!
John Moran - 31 Aug 2003 18:36 GMT Very helpful thank you
If I had wanted opinions on our plans I would have asked for them.
In case you didn't know catteries are expensive and, more importantly, pretty grim for the animals. If I can find somebody willing to do it and reciprocate in kind then what the hell do you care?
> Geeze they don't plan on paying someone for boarding their cats. If they can > afford to go around the world they could spring for boarding at a kennel. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > > John oldmolly - 31 Aug 2003 22:04 GMT > Very helpful thank you > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > In case you didn't know catteries are expensive and, > more importantly, pretty grim for the animals. In defence of some really great catteries I object to that statement.Have you actually *been* to any catteries? My nearest one is a veritable paradise for cats. Huge chalets and runs, an aviary in the centre to watch, the best of everything, heated, in the countryside, and an owner who is potty about cats and spends hours every day playing with her boarders. Music playing in the block too.If my cats went there, they would feel hard done by having to come back with me :0( Another aquaintance has a superb modern cattery struated in the middle of woodland, plenty of birds about, trees to watch, huge pens, heated etc. What is grim about either of them? I think you are motivated by cost here and nothing else. Your poor cats will get settled in with a new person in a new home, then when it is convenient to you, you want them back. Not fair at all.
DarkHills - 31 Aug 2003 22:40 GMT >> Very helpful thank you >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > will get settled in with a new person in a new home, then when it is > convenient to you, you want them back. Not fair at all. oldmolly:
What is true where you live, may not be where he lives. Conditions vary all over the world. Where I live now, there are great "catteries" (we call them vet shelters here).
Where I used to live was horrible. I'm just glad I had friends to take care of my furry friends when I left for family visits while I lived there - because the local places were horrible.
Sorry, but I had to give my two cents. One can't take one's fur-family with them on such a vacation (that would be horrible for the furries); but do you seriously expect someone to give up *all* of their lives for them either?
Your comments strike me as having been sparked from jealousy. Well, I'm not rich enough to take a around the world trip, but neither will I begrudge anyone else their vacations. In the future please learn that not everyone is like yourself, and it's pretty damned arrogant to expect them to be. Learn some tolerance. If we lived in GB we would gladly watch his cats for the time they need. Unfortunately, we're half a world away...
Just because someone can afford to take an extended vacation does not mean they are heartless and cruel. I can't afford it, but I have relatives who are world travelers, and they aren't like that at all. So stuff your comment back where it came from.
Sorry, but that was a bullshit post, and you know it. I'll get off the Anger Horse now. Isn't often that ignorance sparks it, but it did this time.
John, good luck in finding someone. I haven't posted re your post before this because I didn't know anyone who could help, and I didn't want to waste your time. But this post lit my fuse :) - didn't qualify as a troll, but someone needed some lecturing. Off the soapbox now...
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oldmolly - 01 Sep 2003 18:13 GMT > Your comments strike me as having been sparked from jealousy. Jealously about what????
>Well, I'm > not rich enough to take a around the world trip, but neither will I > begrudge anyone else their vacations. Me neither. I have travelled round the world, and lived in many different countries from Saudi Arabia, to Canada.
In the future please learn that not
> everyone is like yourself, and it's pretty damned arrogant to expect them > to be. In future you would be well advised not to take things for granted and assume things from people's posts.
>Learn some tolerance. Pot, kettle,black.
>If we lived in GB we would gladly watch his > cats for the time they need. Unfortunately, we're half a world away... Easy enough to make promises you will never be called upon to keep then eh?
> Just because someone can afford to take an extended vacation does not > mean they are heartless and cruel. Did I say they were???
>I can't afford it, but I have relatives > who are world travelers, and they aren't like that at all. And this is relevant to the OP in what way?
>So stuff your > comment back where it came from. Oops, your low class is showing there lovie.
> Sorry, but that was a bullshit post, and you know it. Of course. I recognise it from your own post.
>I'll get off the > Anger Horse now. Isn't often that ignorance sparks it, but it did this > time. You are an expert in it seemingly.
> John, good luck in finding someone. I haven't posted re your post before > this because I didn't know anyone who could help, and I didn't want to > waste your time. So you wasted everyone elses, bu posting your attack on my post.
But this post lit my fuse :) - didn't qualify as a troll,
> but someone needed some lecturing. I don't know who you are lovie. I know who you *think* you are. But just to drag you down a bit. To me, you are just a gobshite American who feels the need to put the rest of the world right. You have no idea about me, and who I am, or what I am, or anything else, yet you feel justified in poking your oar in and "lecturing" me. My god, when I need a lecture from trailer trash, I will give up keeping animals and go on a world cruise.
Off the soapbox now... Put it over your head lovie, where it might do some good.
Agua Girl - 01 Sep 2003 18:24 GMT > I don't know who you are lovie. I know who you *think* you are. But just to > drag you down a bit. To me, you are just a gobshite American who feels the > need to put the rest of the world right. You have no idea about me, and who > I am, or what I am, or anything else, yet you feel justified in poking your > oar in and "lecturing" me. My god, when I need a lecture from trailer trash, > I will give up keeping animals and go on a world cruise. Have you ever been to America? If you had, you would know that first off..most of the country was settled by people from somewhere else so whatever we are..you were first; and secondly..it is a melting pot with ALL kinds of different types. I don't assume Bob Brenly is representative of everyone from the UK..and I don't call him a "Brit" as some form of put down. I am sure I know some knee jerk reactionist from whatever your home country is but I am not so ignorant as to assume that you are just like them. Maybe you should give up keeping animals and go on a world cruise. Perhaps then you can put away your misconceptions and learn that there are good and bad every where and generalizations like you are making are just plain stupid.
AG
Cheryl - 01 Sep 2003 22:10 GMT > Have you ever been to America? If you had, you would know that first > off..most of the country was settled by people from somewhere else so > whatever we are..you were first; and secondly..it is a melting pot with > ALL kinds of different types. Don't waste your "breath". She's another "merkin" hater.
I don't assume Bob Brenly is representative
> of everyone from the UK..and I don't call him a "Brit" as some form of put > down He learned from her.
oldmolly - 03 Sep 2003 15:01 GMT > > Have you ever been to America? If you had, you would know that > first [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Don't waste your "breath". She's another "merkin" hater. Silly girl. Why do you assume, that because I have had an issue with one poster, that I hate a whole nation? I mean , you lot are so flipping over sensitive sometimes.I actually have several American friends, as I live not far from Mildenhall base. Just goes to show how little you know eh?
Agua Girl - 03 Sep 2003 15:29 GMT > Silly girl. Why do you assume, that because I have had an issue with one > poster, that I hate a whole nation? > I mean , you lot are so flipping over sensitive sometimes.I actually have > several American friends, as I live not far from Mildenhall base. > Just goes to show how little you know eh? When you call someone a "gobshite American" then you are using their nationality as a slur. You may think you aren't racist..but your writing says otherwise. If you don't have a problem with Americans as a whole than I suggest you stop using the term as a put down.
AG
neza - 04 Sep 2003 21:22 GMT > > > Have you ever been to America? If you had, you would know that > > first [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > several American friends, as I live not far from Mildenhall base. > Just goes to show how little you know eh? she is well known for her anti Americanism in this group
oldmolly - 03 Sep 2003 14:58 GMT > Have you ever been to America? Yes actually.
>If you had, you would know that first > off..most of the country was settled by people from somewhere else so > whatever we are..you were first; How do you figure *that* out?
>and secondly..it is a melting pot with > ALL kinds of different types. I know that. This whole post though is a bit pointless isn't it as my reply wasn't directed to you anyway was it?
Chris Street - 01 Sep 2003 22:29 GMT >> but someone needed some lecturing. > I don't know who you are lovie. I know who you *think* you are. But just to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Off the soapbox now... > Put it over your head lovie, where it might do some good. Do you dislike Americans in particular or just hate all foreigners?
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oldmolly - 03 Sep 2003 15:03 GMT > >> but someone needed some lecturing. > > I don't know who you are lovie. I know who you *think* you are. But just to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Do you dislike Americans in particular or just hate all foreigners? And are all Americans as petty and childish as you are? Having lived all over the world, I also have friends of many nationalities. I speak 2 languages fluently and more very badly. So I objected to the very silly and insulting post of an American. How does that make me anti American? I personally find the attitude of 'either for us or against us' rather silly. It is this attitude which starts wars.
MaryL - 03 Sep 2003 15:07 GMT > > >> but someone needed some lecturing. > > > I don't know who you are lovie. I know who you *think* you are. But just [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > I personally find the attitude of 'either for us or against us' rather > silly. It is this attitude which starts wars. I think the reason you are running into this line of questioning is that many of us wonder why you even commented on nationality. What did that have to do with it? -- in the same way that gender, race, and ethnicity should not be a part of the answer because they have absolutely nothing to do with the issue.
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Chris Street - 03 Sep 2003 15:57 GMT >> >> but someone needed some lecturing. >> > I don't know who you are lovie. I know who you *think* you are. But just [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >And are all Americans as petty and childish as you are? Do you think I'm American then? Suggest you check the news headers.
>Having lived all over the world, I also have friends of many nationalities. >I speak 2 languages fluently and more very badly. So?
> So I objected to the very silly and insulting post of an American. How does >that make me anti American? Did I call you anti American? I merely asked a question, you appear to be the one with the guilt complex.
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Dee - 01 Sep 2003 22:56 GMT > I don't know who you are lovie. I know who you *think* you are. But just to > drag you down a bit. To me, you are just a gobshite American who feels ...
That's uncalled for.
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Chris Street - 02 Sep 2003 00:52 GMT >> I don't know who you are lovie. I know who you *think* you are. But just to >> drag you down a bit. To me, you are just a gobshite American who feels [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Dee (apparently a "gobshite American") You could moan to NTL - they may take notice since the AUP says you are not meant to call Americans, or indeed any other people nasty names.
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oldmolly - 03 Sep 2003 15:06 GMT > >> I don't know who you are lovie. I know who you *think* you are. But just to > >> drag you down a bit. To me, you are just a gobshite American who feels [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > You could moan to NTL - they may take notice since the AUP says you are > not meant to call Americans, or indeed any other people nasty names. Rofl.Why don't you whine to my ISP. Whine to Tony Blair too, and don't foget your mummy. "Wah wah wah, she called one of us a gobshite".
oldmolly - 03 Sep 2003 15:04 GMT > > I don't know who you are lovie. I know who you *think* you are. But just to > > drag you down a bit. To me, you are just a gobshite American who feels [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Dee (apparently a "gobshite American") It is possible for you to be American without being a gobshite. Apparently plenty of you were not able to discern a difference. My American friends and aquaintances are not gobshites (shrug). Perhaps it is only on usenet that you cannot be one without the other?
Zack - 03 Sep 2003 15:09 GMT oldmolly wrote in (alt.cats) :
>> > I don't know who you are lovie. I know who you *think* you are. But >just to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > My American friends and aquaintances are not gobshites (shrug). Perhaps it >is only on usenet that you cannot be one without the other? These cat obsessos are all bigots. You go girl!
Agua Girl - 03 Sep 2003 15:37 GMT > > > I don't know who you are lovie. I know who you *think* you are. But > just to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > My American friends and aquaintances are not gobshites (shrug). Perhaps it > is only on usenet that you cannot be one without the other? Right Molly...it's EVERYONE else who has the problem..not you. You used nationality as a slur. It's not a big leap to assume you have an issue with that nationality. It's the same as calling someone a "stupid Mexican". It shows ignorance and hatred.....another way wars are started. Maybe you didn't mean to put down Americans as a whole but when you did. If it wasn't intentional a simple "sorry, I didn't mean it that way" would suffice. Of course that would require you taking responsibility for your slurs, something you aren't willing to do. Go ahead and defend your racist attitude..we are used to it. We have to deal with it from the Klan all the time.
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oldmolly - 05 Sep 2003 00:10 GMT > > > > I don't know who you are lovie. I know who you *think* you are. But > > just to [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > racist attitude..we are used to it. We have to deal with it from the Klan > all the time. Whatever <yawn>
Nash - 05 Sep 2003 00:24 GMT Agua Girl - 05 Sep 2003 00:42 GMT > > > Right Molly...it's EVERYONE else who has the problem..not you. You > > used nationality as a slur. It's not a big leap to assume you have an [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > Whatever <yawn> Yeah...that's what I thought you'd say. Typical. No worries...whatever you put out comes back x3 so you just keep spewing hatred and indifference..... good luck with that karma.
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neza - 05 Sep 2003 12:05 GMT > > > > I don't know who you are lovie. I know who you *think* you are. But > > just to [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > AG You have misunderstood Molly's post, Of course she doesn't dislike all Americans just the ones that come the part that calls it self the United States, the rest are great. North Americans (Canada), South Americans are great people its just the septics that spoil it for the rest
bewtifulfreak - 05 Sep 2003 14:36 GMT >> Right Molly...it's EVERYONE else who has the problem..not you. You >> used nationality as a slur. It's not a big leap to assume you have >> an issue with that nationality. It's the same as calling someone a >> "stupid Mexican". It shows ignorance and hatred.....another way wars >> are started. Maybe you didn't mean to put down Americans as a >> whole but when you did. I agree wholeheartedly. Whether or not you meant it just towards one person, when you include someone's nationality in an insult, that infers that the nationality is part of the insult. Otherwise, why not just call the person a gobshite and be done with it? Not that I think insults should be flung around newsgroups in the case of disagreement anyway, but I'm sadly in the minority on that one.
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MaryL - 05 Sep 2003 14:50 GMT > >> Right Molly...it's EVERYONE else who has the problem..not you. You > >> used nationality as a slur. It's not a big leap to assume you have [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak I hope you're not in the minority. Name-calling simply cuts off rational dialogue -- and usually reflects badly on the person hurling the ephithet instead of the intended target.
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bewtifulfreak - 05 Sep 2003 14:53 GMT > "bewtifulfreak" <bewtifulfreak.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message Not that I
>> think insults should be flung around newsgroups in the case of >> disagreement anyway, but I'm sadly in the minority on that one.
> I hope you're not in the minority. Name-calling simply cuts off > rational dialogue -- and usually reflects badly on the person hurling > the ephithet instead of the intended target. Well, thankfully, I'm not in the minority on some of these groups; most of the posts I've come across from cat folks have been really friendly and polite, even when disagreements occur (with ocassional exceptions, of course). But I know that's not always the case on Usenet in general, though I believe you're absolutely spot on in your observations about name-calling.
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James - 31 Aug 2003 23:30 GMT oldmolly <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> wrote on Sun, 31 Aug 2003:
> In defence of some really great catteries I object to that statement.Have >you actually *been* to any catteries? My nearest one is a veritable paradise [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >woodland, plenty of birds about, trees to watch, huge pens, heated etc. >What is grim about either of them? You won't find a cattery like that anywhere in London. Most of them have pens the size of a cat carrier and barking dogs in the next door kennels. Certainly no Brahms or R4 anywhere :-(
Not an option I'd recommend for John.
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Katra - 31 Aug 2003 23:55 GMT > oldmolly <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> wrote on Sun, 31 Aug 2003: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > -- > James Sounds like a business opportunity to me..... ;-)
Have you thought about that James????
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DarkHills - 01 Sep 2003 00:20 GMT >> oldmolly <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> wrote on Sun, 31 Aug 2003: >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > K. Just keep it affordable. Oh, wait, I'm preaching to the converted :) Thank god for good friends who also love cats :)
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Chris Street - 01 Sep 2003 18:42 GMT >> oldmolly <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> wrote on Sun, 31 Aug 2003: >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Sounds like a business opportunity to me..... ;-) You seen the land prices in London lately. Catteries exist, but they are not big ones sadly.
If John wants to go the cattery route there are a couple of very good ones in Warwickshire, large, good runs etc, well cared for. I'm sure there are others across the SE that are as good, it's a fag driving out of London to them sure but if it will be for six months it may be worth it.
>Have you thought about that James???? > >K.
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James - 01 Sep 2003 19:38 GMT Katra <Katra@centurytel.net> wrote on Sun, 31 Aug 2003:
>Sounds like a business opportunity to me..... ;-) > >Have you thought about that James???? Thanks for the suggestion, K. With the price of land in London it would need to be a high rise cattery with lifts to the top floors. Not sure what my bank manager would think of that! Or if cats would like being so high up.
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~*SooZy*~ - 01 Sep 2003 14:13 GMT > oldmolly <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> wrote on Sun, 31 Aug 2003: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Not an option I'd recommend for John. I agree London is very expensive, but surely it would be worth coming out of London to find a suitable place? an hours drive away you are in the country..... however 6 months is a very long time to live the cats. Getting a cat sitter in sounds like a good idea.
oldmolly - 01 Sep 2003 18:16 GMT > > oldmolly <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> wrote on Sun, 31 Aug 2003: > > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > country..... however 6 months is a very long time to live the cats. Getting > a cat sitter in sounds like a good idea. An hours drive would surely find somewhere affordable and nice? A 2 hour drive would bring them to one of the catteries I mentioned.
~*SooZy*~ - 01 Sep 2003 19:30 GMT > > > oldmolly <oldmolly@ntlworld.com> wrote on Sun, 31 Aug 2003: > > > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > An hours drive would surely find somewhere affordable and nice? A 2 hour > drive would bring them to one of the catteries I mentioned. well I used to know of a Lady in blindleyheath Surrey who ran a very small cattery, not that far from London, and its lovely... not sure if she is still running it. Croydon area Selsdon, which is in the borough of London also had a large cattery, that's in the country side beside a bird sanctuary. There are loads of catteries in surrey, not sure that is what he wants tho London cover a very large area....
Lee Waun - 01 Sep 2003 06:23 GMT > In defence of some really great catteries I object to that statement.Have > you actually *been* to any catteries? My nearest one is a veritable paradise [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > will get settled in with a new person in a new home, then when it is > convenient to you, you want them back. Not fair at all. Very well put. I almost wish i could send my cats to a place like you just described. It would be like a adventure playground for them. Alas I won't let them out of my sight.
Mogie - 02 Sep 2003 00:03 GMT That depends on the catteries.
> > Very helpful thank you > > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/03 Mogie - 02 Sep 2003 19:44 GMT Why be so cheap you don't offer to pay the person or people that you want to watch after your cats. Maybe the best thing to do is find a very good home for them.
> That depends on the catteries. > > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/03 Agua Girl - 01 Sep 2003 21:57 GMT > Why be so cheap you don't offer to pay the person or people that you want to > watch after your cats. Maybe the best thing to do is find a very good home > for them. I don't know. Wouldn't it be better to find someone that might want the favor returned? (which is what he is doing). Think about the difference between someone doing something out of the goodness of their heart and the hopes that the deed would be reciprocated...and someone doing something only because they are being paid. When I had friends house sit my dog and two cats while I was on vacation (yes, only 10 days but the theory is sound) I knew my animals were going to get the better attention than they would in a kennel. The folks doing the house sitting did so for the love of animals, out of joy for doing something nice. What better can you ask?. I paid them back by stocking the pantry and fridge and buying them something nice on my trip. I didn't offer money as they would have been offended. I have since returned the favor to two of them. So... before you judge John as "cheap" consider what someone might get in return. 6 months of free cat sitting :-)
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Mogie - 03 Sep 2003 01:28 GMT That's great doing it out of the goodness of your heart but since he obviously doesn't know anyone that will do that how sure can he what type of person he'll end up with. You had friends pet sit. He doesn't know anyone that is willing. Asking strangers. Could be very scary. Also worry about the cats bonding to the "sitter".
> > Why be so cheap you don't offer to pay the person or people that you want > to [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > AG Agua Girl - 02 Sep 2003 03:37 GMT > That's great doing it out of the goodness of your heart but since he > obviously doesn't know anyone that will do that how sure can he what type of > person he'll end up with. True...but asking people in a newsgroup dedicated to cats isn't the same as asking strangers on the street. He may not "know" us but he knows we care about our cats.
> You had friends pet sit. He doesn't know anyone that is willing. Asking > strangers. Could be very scary. See above. Strangers are just friends you haven't met yet :-). I have met up with people in other newsgroups..even shared a condo with a bunch of them.
> Also worry about the cats bonding to the "sitter". That's a real concern. I took care of my sisters cat for over a year while she was having financial problems. When she was back on her feet, she wanted her cat back. Naturally I had to oblige and to be honest..the cat remembered her and was fine with it. I however missed the cat terribly. I just think it's best not to judge people to harshly. If he was looking for a good vet to declaw his cat that's one thing..but he's just looking for help. He could be like many others and dump the cats since they are now a "problem"....but he's trying to find a good place for them to stay. Not really a hanging offense in my book.
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> > > Why be so cheap you don't offer to pay the person or people that you > want [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > > AG Michelle Fulton - 03 Sep 2003 15:10 GMT > Your poor cats > will get settled in with a new person in a new home, then when it is > convenient to you, you want them back. Not fair at all. You seem to be suggesting that if they stay in someone's home, they will become attached, but they won't if they stay in this wonderful cattery that your cats would be hard pressed to want to come home from?????
I disagree and think the comment about money was out of line. They are trying to do the best they can for their cats, and you are insulting them
:-o They may have had to mortgage their house to take this once in a life time trip. Another $1,000 might make it impossible. Don't judge others, when you haven't the whole story.
My 2 cents... M
Cat Protector - 30 Sep 2003 23:14 GMT I am not in the UK but then again I have to say your words here are very disturbing. People offer great ideas but you take kind of a snooty attitude. I have to agree with many here who have stated that the cats will most likely bond with those who look after them. How can you afford to take a trip around the world but not pay a person to look after them. 6 months is a long time to travel and also it is somewhat selfish to dump them at your convenience and then want to pick them up after they have already bonded with someone else. Maybe you should really re-think your travel plans and take them in stages at a later date. You could have a friend or relative stay at your place for 6 months if you are so wanting to save money and the cats wouldn't feel uprooted. There is also another option you might consider. Here in the states when some of our military men and women were going off to fight in Iraq, you had shelters which had volunteer foster homes the animals could be placed in until their humans returned. Of course if you choose that route it would be nice if you made a donation to the shelter since after all you are rich enough to take a trip around the world.
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