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Bobby Baxter - 12 Oct 2004 15:16 GMT
We are looking for a breeder of Bengal Cats in the Raleigh NC area.

We know that Hampton Bengals is supposed to be in Raleigh but their web site
does not appear to up and we can not find a phone number in the phone book.

We would appreciate any contact info regarding any breeder in our area.

Thanks,
Bobby

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Orchid - 12 Oct 2004 15:29 GMT
>We are looking for a breeder of Bengal Cats in the Raleigh NC area.

    Bengals are fantastic, but you need to be sure that you're
ready for them.  :)  Please read over my 'Top Ten Reasons You Don't
Want A Bengal' and make sure you know what you're getting in to.  :D
It'll be cut and pasted in at the bottom of the message.

>We know that Hampton Bengals is supposed to be in Raleigh but their web site
>does not appear to up and we can not find a phone number in the phone book.

    I found a website, but I would be very leery of Hampton --
there is no evidence on their site that they show at all, and they
don't even post information about their queens and studs.  I would
strongly suggest hitting the First In Flight Cat Club show that's on
12/31/2004 - 1/2/2005 -- it's in Raleigh and any Bengal breeders in
the area will certainly be there. The show flyer is here:
http://www.concentric.net/~vanadis/FirstinFlight.shtml

>We would appreciate any contact info regarding any breeder in our area.

    I would also strongly suggest reading over the 'Guide to
Finding a Responsible Breeder' that is linked to in my sig -- it's
going to help you start to be ready for breeder interviews and such.
You should also join Bengals-L on Yahoogroups -- it's one of the
oldest and largest email groups for Bengal breeders and fanciers.
You'll be able to talk to some of the top breeders in the breed and
litter announcements are even posted.

"Top Ten Reasons You Don't Want A Bengal"

1. Bengals are active cats.  Really active.  Like eleven on a 1-10
scale active.  There is no shelf they cannot get onto, no mantel
that's safe from kitty romping.  Knicknacks that aren't stuck down
with museum wax aren't going to survive.  16 week old Bengal kittens
can jump from the floor to the top of the fridge.

2.  Bengals are high-maintanance pets.  They need attention, and they
need company.  If you work outside the house, do yourself a favour and
get two Bengals or a Bengal and another high-energy cat.  Otherwise
you *must* expect to spend 3-4 hours playing with and interacting with
your cat.  That drops to 1-2 hours if there are two of them.  They
need interactive play -- if they don't get it they will do anything
and everything they can to get your attention.  Remember those
stuck-down knicknacks?  They're history if you don't give your Bengal
enough attention.

3. Bengals are smart.  Spooky smart.  They work together and teach
each other things.  My boys can open both the fridge and the freezer,
can open baby locks (Temujin pulls the door open, Kefka swats at the
latch), can open cabinets, open drawers, and have almost mastered the
round doorknob.  They must have sufficient mental stimulation or they
get bored.  Bored Bengals make up Bengal games.  Humans generally do
not like Bengal games, as Bengal games often involve swatting things
(like stuck down knicknacks) off high places.

4.  Bengals are not decorative.  Okay, they're decorative when they
are tired, but most of the time they are spotted and marbled blurs of
activity.  They will not lounge around prettily for admiration -- they
want to be doing what you are doing, helping with whatever you're
doing.

5.  Bengals are *big* cats.  Males are 15-20 pounds of muscle fully
grown, and females are 10-15.  Both sexes are very long bodied -- my
boys are ~22 inches from shoulders to tail base.  When they stand on
their hind legs, they can touch my waist easily.  A well-bred Bengal
is an incredible cat -- friendly, affectionate, confident.  A
poorly-bred Bengal is a nightmare because of their size and strength.

6.  Bengals are heavy scratchers.  You can forget about those wimpy
little 2' carpet-covered scratching posts at Petsmart -- posts for
Bengals need to be tall and heavy.  Cat trees are best  -- and
expensive.  If you don't provide enough places to scratch, your
furniture is history, and declawed Bengals are usually biters.

7.  Bengals are greedy.  I am a professional trainer, and my cats are
very well trained with ~20 behaviours including dog-style obedience,
stupid tricks, and agility.  I cannot train them to stay off counters
and cannot train them to leave food alone.  All the usual methods
(aluminum foil, upside-down carpet runners, citrus, cans full of
pennies, etc) simply do not work.  Bengals will be good until you
remove the offending object (carpet runner, etc) and will then hop
right up again.  They are too smart to think that the counter is doing
anything to them.

8.  Bengals like water.  Which, granted, is pretty cool -- having a
cat join you in the shower or hop into your hot bath to swim around is
neat.  But it also means that squirt guns are useless.  And guests are
often not amused.  :)

9.  Did I mention that they're active?  Because they really really
are.  I often compare them to Border Collies when trying to get across
how active they are.  They need the mental stimulation of a job of
some sort, which is why my boys are clicker-trained.

10.  They're expensive.  No, you can't cut corners by buying out of
the newspaper.  Well-bred, well-socialised Bengals generally start
around $400 for a pet-quality and can go all the way up to over $1000
for a show alter.

Orchid
See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Want a Purebred Cat?  Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
Agua Girl - 12 Oct 2004 15:38 GMT
> >We are looking for a breeder of Bengal Cats in the Raleigh NC area.
>
> Bengals are fantastic, but you need to be sure that you're
> ready for them.  :)  Please read over my 'Top Ten Reasons You Don't
> Want A Bengal' and make sure you know what you're getting in to.  :D
> It'll be cut and pasted in at the bottom of the message.

That is a great list...thanks.  Years back I was considering adding
another cat after one of mine passed.  I had just been to a pet show
where they had Bengalis and thought I wanted one.  I loved the
size, how smart they seemed to be, and of course the look.  Luckily
after having a pure-bred dog I understood the need to research
breeds before adopting.  I managed to come across most of the
information you listed but it sure wasn't in a simple 10 point list.
Would have cut my research time considerably.
I didn't end up getting one for the same reason I never got a border
collie even though I adore them.  Instead of the collie I got a golden
(big lazy well minded and loves to please) and instead of the Bengal
I got a mature rescue cat (being mature allowed me to pick a
personality more suited to my household).

AG
Bobby Baxter - 12 Oct 2004 18:24 GMT
Orchid,

This is very useful information. We have two children that love animals.
One has many allergies (including cats).  We had heard that it is almost
unheard of to be allergic to bengals so we are  hoping to find a nearby
breeder where we may test our son for reactions.  It took us two years to
find a dog he was not allergic to (a bichon). Before we delve into locating
a serious breeder, we need to determine if we will encounter allergy
problems. My wife and I both work from home so we are always here.  We also
hope that by getting a kitten that the dog and bengal will get along.

Thanks for your help.

Bobby

>>We are looking for a breeder of Bengal Cats in the Raleigh NC area.
>
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> See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
> Want a Purebred Cat?  Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
Dik F. Liu - 12 Oct 2004 19:39 GMT
>This is very useful information. We have two children that love animals.
>One has many allergies (including cats).  We had heard that it is almost
>unheard of to be allergic to bengals so we are  hoping to find a nearby
>breeder where we may test our son for reactions.

I don't know about Bengals. But, I have a slight allergy to cats, especially to
longhair cats and cats who shed excessively.  Partly because of this, my
current cat is a Korat. (My primary reason is that I love the Korat's
personality.) Korats are single coat cats - they have no downy undercoat. They
have just one coat of short, silky awn hair. They shed very little - a bit of
Spring shedding and almost no Fall shedding. I have no allergic reaction to my
Korat cat. Korats are high maintenance cats, however; and unless you are often
home, you will want to have two of these.

Other low shedding cats include the Devon Rex, and the Sphynx. You can look up
these breeds in the CFA website. However, there is no such thing as a
non-allergenic cat. Most people who are allergic to cats are allergic to the
cat's dander, or the saliva deposit in the dander (okay, okay, I know, it's
more technical than that.). You might want to take your son to a breeder's
home, and spend a few hours there to see if he is allergic to the breed.
Preferably, the breeder's home should be carpeted, since carpeting exacerbates
the allergy.

Once you have adopted a kitten, that should be it. If you return the kitten to
the breeder, that could be detrimental to the kitten's future. So, I don't
recommend playing dice with a kitten's life. Please be absolutely sure that
your son is really not allergic to the cat before adopting it.

Dik
Orchid - 12 Oct 2004 22:44 GMT
>Orchid,
>
>This is very useful information. We have two children that love animals.
>One has many allergies (including cats).  We had heard that it is almost
>unheard of to be allergic to bengals so we are  hoping to find a nearby
>breeder where we may test our son for reactions.

    Ah-ha.  So noted.  Bengals are *not* non-allergenic.  They
shed less than other cats, which helps, but they do still cause
reactions in allergic individual.  My husband is allergic to cats, and
our boys set him off for maybe six weeks after they came home.  After
that his body had adapted to the proteins in *their* saliva, and thus
he no longer reacts to them.  My niece, however, still reacts when she
visits.  Do you know what exactly in animals he reacts to?  Saliva,
dander, hair, what?
    I am going to still recommend that you wait until the show to
make contacts with breeders -- it's always a good idea to begin as you
mean to go on, and irresponsible breeders still have cute kittens that
melt your heart.  As well, most shows have a 'Bengal Alley' where the
majority of the Bengals bench -- a great way to see how your son copes
with them.

> It took us two years to
>find a dog he was not allergic to (a bichon). Before we delve into locating
>a serious breeder, we need to determine if we will encounter allergy
>problems. My wife and I both work from home so we are always here.  We also
>hope that by getting a kitten that the dog and bengal will get along.

    Bengals tend to get along with dogs quite nicely, as they are
large, sturdy, and like to play.  However, the Bengal will try to play
with the dog in the way that cats play -- some dogs love it and some
hate it.  An adult Bengal will be just as successful in dog
introduction as a kitten -- maybe even better since the cat will come
'ready to play'.  However, I have what may seem like a strange
question for you -- Bichons tend to have a lot of allergies themselves
-- do you know if cat allergies are in your dog's lines?

Orchid
See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Want a Purebred Cat?  Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid
 
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