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joe--m - 29 Sep 2004 04:17 GMT
My 9 yr old cat (partial outdoor cat, not declawed) has developed a problem
where he has lost strength in his back legs.  He was recovering from an
abscess he had after a fight, and tapeworms, and was getting better, but now
has a very hard time walking.  His back legs are either sensitive, or he is
just sensitive about protecting them.

He just had a "senior cat" checkup that was OK, and an x-ray that showed
"moderate arthritis".  I've been giving the cat 125mg each of glucosamine
and aspirin, but so far, his condition has only gotten worse.

I don't believe trauma is involved based on the x-ray.  The checkup seems to
be negative on muscular problems.

Any thoughts, opinions, and specifically sources of information will be
appreciated.
MaryL - 29 Sep 2004 04:51 GMT
> My 9 yr old cat (partial outdoor cat, not declawed) has developed a problem
> where he has lost strength in his back legs.  He was recovering from an
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> "moderate arthritis".  I've been giving the cat 125mg each of glucosamine
> and aspirin, but so far, his condition has only gotten worse.

Did you quote the dosage correctly? -- 125mg of aspirin??  If so, that is an
extraordinarily high dose for a cat and is extremely dangerous.  Aspirin can
be toxic to cats and must be administered with extreme care (and at very low
dosage).  Please read the following articles.  The first one includes a
brief statement concerning aspirin dosage for cats; the other two include
information on alternative treatments.  Also, please contact your vet
IMMEDIATELY if you really have given 125mg of aspirin and ask for advice.
This could be an emergency situation, and I am very concerned that there may
have been a miscommunication between you and your vet.
http://www.vetinfo4cats.com/catmed.html#Aspirin%20dosage%20for%20cats
http://www.vetinfo.com/catpain.html
http://petplace.netscape.com/articles/artShow.asp?artID=1030

MaryL
joe--m - 29 Sep 2004 15:27 GMT
Hi Mary,

Thank you very much for the reply.  You were absolutely right. The correct
dosage is 81mg every 48 hrs and glucosamine 125mg 2x daily.  Thank God I
didn't OD the poor guy!  That was probably making things worse.  I'll give
him a couple of days to "dry out" first before giving him any more.

Thanks again!
Joe.

>> My 9 yr old cat (partial outdoor cat, not declawed) has developed a
> problem
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>
> MaryL
Sherry - 29 Sep 2004 06:57 GMT
>He just had a "senior cat" checkup that was OK, and an x-ray that showed
>"moderate arthritis".  I've been giving the cat 125mg each of glucosamine
>and aspirin, but so far, his condition has only gotten worse.

125 mg. aspirin sounds extremely high for a cat. The only time my cat was ever
prescribed aspirin by a vet, it was 20 mg. One-fourth of a baby aspirin.

Sherry
Jodie - 29 Sep 2004 19:31 GMT
Joe!!

Call your vet pronto and tell them the situation!!

And 81mg still sounds high.  Are you sure that's correct?  The high aspirin
dosage is probably what's making him wobbly - he's likely dizzy!  Vet!
MaryL - 29 Sep 2004 22:05 GMT
> Joe!!
>
> Call your vet pronto and tell them the situation!!
>
> And 81mg still sounds high.  Are you sure that's correct?  The high aspirin
> dosage is probably what's making him wobbly - he's likely dizzy!  Vet!

Yes, that was also my concern.  I am delighted that Joe called his vet, but
81mg still sounds *much* too high.  That is the "low" dose used for adult
people who use it on a daily basis as part of a program to reduce the
likelihood of heart attacks (but far too high for cats, in my opinion).

MaryL
joe--m - 30 Sep 2004 14:53 GMT
Hi Jodie,

I called yesterday, and 81mg every 48 hours is what the vet said.  That
seems consistent with what the links that Mary posted state.

It says that aspirin stays in a cat longer than humans or dogs because it
takes longer for them to metabolize.

I haven't given the cat any aspirin for 40 hours now, and I'm going to wait
another 24 hours before giving him any more.

"Tom's" condition seems to have worsened a little.  He doesn't seem groggy,
but he can hardly drag his rear-end around.  This has developed over the
last two months, which seems very fast to be arthritis (to me anyway).  I've
been reading all the info I can, and I'm wondering if cortisone might help.
I plan on asking the vet about that today.

At this point, we're just worried that it's something life-threatening.

"Tom" was my wife and son's birthday present to me when we lived in
Switzerland (now in Minnesota).  It was the longest I'd been without a pet
of some sort - dogs, cats, guinea pigs.  He's seen just about everything...
fallen from a 3rd story apartment kitchen window, been in more fights than I
can count, two trips to the emergency room, and flown in the cockpit of a
747 flight from Amsterdam to Minneapolis - no, I am not kidding (pre 9/11
when we moved back to the US).  Then, because he screamed bloody murder the
whole way up, he and I sat in first class for the landing (the only way to
fly!).  I've installed two "cat flaps" for him to go outside - well to come
in, actually.  Before this condition developed, we used let him out
ourselves but then wanted to make sure he was in at night when he could get
in the most trouble.  My wife badgered me for two days to "name" him and
then, when I still didn't have a name, she named him 'Tom' after some soap
opera star that she thought was cute.  Of course she didn't tell me right
away, and then it was too late to give him another name.  He is sure one
special cat.

Thanks to all for the advice.  I'm open to any and all suggestions you may
have.

Joe.

> Joe!!
>
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> aspirin
> dosage is probably what's making him wobbly - he's likely dizzy!  Vet!
MaryL - 30 Sep 2004 15:47 GMT
> Hi Jodie,
>
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> It says that aspirin stays in a cat longer than humans or dogs because it
> takes longer for them to metabolize.

No, Joe, one of the links I posted says that a safe dosage seems to be "10
to 25mg/kg every 48 to 72 hours."
http://www.vetinfo4cats.com/catmed.html#Aspirin%20dosage%20for%20cats

MaryL
joe--m - 30 Sep 2004 16:22 GMT
Hi Mary,

Tom is 14 pounds, so that seems in line with the recommendation.  He is not
overweight by any means, he is just a HUGE cat.  He takes the same dose of
heartworm pills that my 70# Lab takes. Someone once told me that European
cats are larger on average than cats in the US (his brother, who lives with
my friend over there is even bigger!).  I don't know.

Here is a picture of Tom taken a few years ago.  He's laying in a child's
pop-up play tent.

http://70nova.homeip.net:8000/webs/mn2/scout/files/tom.jpg

Thanks again,
Joe.

>> Hi Jodie,
>>
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>
> MaryL
joe--m - 01 Oct 2004 23:14 GMT
I took Tom to the vet today to inquire about a cortisone shot or something
similar because he was not getting better, and in fact, was getting worse.

He has been diagnosed with an aortic thrombosis.  He is home now, but will
be taken in on Monday to be put to sleep.

Just thought I'd update those that helped.  Thank you.

> My 9 yr old cat (partial outdoor cat, not declawed) has developed a
> problem where he has lost strength in his back legs.  He was recovering
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> Any thoughts, opinions, and specifically sources of information will be
> appreciated.
M.C. Mullen - 02 Oct 2004 01:52 GMT
|I took Tom to the vet today to inquire about a cortisone shot or something
| similar because he was not getting better, and in fact, was getting worse.
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|
| Just thought I'd update those that helped.  Thank you.

Very very sorry to hear that.

Carola
Wendy - 02 Oct 2004 12:18 GMT
> My 9 yr old cat (partial outdoor cat, not declawed) has developed a problem
> where he has lost strength in his back legs.  He was recovering from an
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Any thoughts, opinions, and specifically sources of information will be
> appreciated.

Did you vet tell you to give the cat aspirin? You have to be careful with
that as it take 2-3 days for the cat to metabolize aspirin. My vet said I
could give my 17 yr old aspirin if she was in a lot of pain but only 1/2 a
baby aspirin every three days. I haven't had to do that yet. I have her on
Cosequin and Arnica Montana (for pain).

W
joe--m - 02 Oct 2004 23:23 GMT
Hi Wendy,

The vets instructions were 81mg every 48 hours.  My cat was 14 pounds, so
that seems to be in line with recommendations.

Unfortunately, we had to euthanize him today because he had an aortic
thrombosis.  Although he did have arthritis, it turns out that the symptom
was due to partial paralysis due to the lack of oxygen to his rear legs.

It's been very difficult for the family.

My 7 year old, in tears, said that we're "not a family anymore" and that we
have to get another cat that looked exactly the same and name it "Tom" as
well.  We explained that we're still a family and that families come in many
different forms - some have girls, some have gerbils, etc (we have two
boys), and we still have the dog and guinea pigs.  We also tried to explain
that Tom was very special and can't be replaced, but that another cat will
be special in it's own way.

The other thing he said (about Tom and my 11 year old son) is that they were
"almost twins."  My wife and I almost choked on that one.

Thanks again to everyone.
Joe.

>> My 9 yr old cat (partial outdoor cat, not declawed) has developed a
> problem
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>
> W
Rhonda - 03 Oct 2004 06:45 GMT
Sorry to hear about your cat, Joe. Sounds like there's nothing that
could have been done for him.

You're kids are learning a tough lesson in life; I'm sorry you all have
to go through this.

Take care,

Rhonda

> Unfortunately, we had to euthanize him today because he had an aortic
> thrombosis.  Although he did have arthritis, it turns out that the symptom
> was due to partial paralysis due to the lack of oxygen to his rear legs.
>
> It's been very difficult for the family.
Wendy - 04 Oct 2004 12:09 GMT
> Hi Wendy,
>
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> Thanks again to everyone.
> Joe.

So sorry to hear about your cat. He was lucky to have a family that loved
him so much

W
 
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