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M.C. Mullen - 04 Sep 2004 23:40 GMT

I have noticed that addresses from this newsgroup are being sent around
without me doing anything.
My PC is virus checked and free of them. But I keep getting messages that
this or that mail has been rejected.
Has anybody else got this problem?
Has anybody actually got a useless mail from me? What was the content?

Carola

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HD - 05 Sep 2004 00:31 GMT

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I am getting a lot of this too.
It seems that a spammer or other types of people have scavenged the
real E-Mail addresses from the net.

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Magic Mood Jeep? - 05 Sep 2004 00:53 GMT

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That's what happened to me 6-7 months ago. Was getting 200+ rejected mails
that I did not sned. Fortunately, with my server, I cand add/delete emails
as needed, so I deleted that one and created a new one. Let those rejected
emails hang in cyberspace. Also, fake your email when posing to newsgroups,
that way they CANNOT copy it.

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Ted Davis - 05 Sep 2004 01:56 GMT

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This is typical of a virus/worm infection *on somebody else's
machine*. Current mass-mailer viruses and worms search the infected
machine for addresses, and send to some while using others in the
forged From header. Server administrators know this, but continue to
allow their virus scanners to send messages even though they know the
messages are going to be a nuisance instead of a help - some even turn
the feature on even though the virus scanner vendor ships the product
with it turned off. That accounts for some of the messages, the
others are actual bounce messages from mail servers for bad addresses
- there is no way for the server to tell that the from address is
forged in this case: that can be done only by virus scanners. In
either case, most of the messages probably contained viruses, though
some spammers use similar techniques, in fact, some spammers use worms
to convert infected machines into zombies to send out their spam the
same way a virus would.

Those using standard POP3 e-mail clients can use one of the free
artificial intelligence mail classifiers (I use POPFile) to mark their
mail as belonging to one of several categories and their mail client's
filters to sort the messages into various mailboxes, or even delete
the bogus messages automatically. These tools tend to run about 99.4
percent accurate in classifying mail, and once taught to recognize
viruses, will usually catch them as soon as a new one appears, even
before PC and server virus scanners start catching them.

There is one free e-mail/news client I know about that has a built in
go/no-go classifier: Thunderbird. Otherwise it reminds me somewhat of
Eudora (I haven't evaluated its news client functions).

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T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu)

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MaryL - 06 Sep 2004 05:42 GMT

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This is very common. That's why I keep a Yahoo account only for newsgroups
(and can easily change it). I don't use my personal email address for any
type of Internet function.

MaryL

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M.C. Mullen - 06 Sep 2004 12:08 GMT

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The strange thing is - I don't either. My addy is double munged. I'm a bit
lost with computer technology here :-(

Carola

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rpl - 06 Sep 2004 22:43 GMT

Might not be you and has probably has nothing (directly) to do with the
newsgroup postings.

Could be a virus on someone else's computer that's picked up your e-mail
addy from *their* Address Book and is using it as a "From" line.

And since *you're* the one who gets the "Message Undeliverable" error,
they have no way of knowing that they are infected (you have no way of
telling how many were actually delivered).

And if alot of the addresses are of people in this group then it's
probably somebody in the group who's infected. If they're addys that you
recognize then maybe you should give another antivirus proggie a whirl.

capisce?

pat
(I don't think we've ever corresponded so it ain't me)

www.grisoft.com has a free version of a very good antivirus program for
personal use.

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