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40 days after Hartz flea seisure...OK to use Frontline now?

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jdc1 - 12 Aug 2004 03:57 GMT
Elderly cat still has fits with dermatitis and 5 times a day goes into
fit scratching at head and pulling out fur (Mane Coon cat).
She scratches at head in pure frustration..it's her back.

Anyways...last year I used Frontline or Advantange (one of the safer
ones). This July 3rd I used the cheaper Hartz flea drops...what a disaster.
I dunno how Hartz or even Petco gets away selling this product.

4th of July she ran around with head down moaning in seizure.

With no vet care..she's gotten back her appetite and is herself, tho old
and her dermatitis from a resident flea still exists.

Would you wait longer to now apply the safer Frontline (last year worked
fine and relieved her pulling out fur yanking fits).

I didn't know how toxic Hartz and other cheaper brand flea treatments
were...shame on me.  I thought they were all pretty much the same.
Aimee S - 12 Aug 2004 05:56 GMT
I would use Advantage,  I've seen an older get get really sick with
Frontline.. Frontline can be good with younger cat's but I would be
careful with an older cat. For fleas, Advantage is just as good,

My 2 cents..

Aimee
jdc1 - 12 Aug 2004 06:36 GMT
> I would use Advantage,  I've seen an older get get really sick with
> Frontline.. Frontline can be good with younger cat's but I would be
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>
> Aimee

Thanks for reply...If no others chime in differntly, I'll auction the
Advantage and go with Frontline.

Frontline uses fipronil as active ingrediant. What does Advantage use?
I forget if it was Frontline or Advantage I used last time with no ill
effects.

One thing about this Fronline pak...seems the squeeze out container is
bigger and contains more fluid than what I used before..the other ones
were a bit smaller. That's an advantage (no pun intended) for a long
haired coon cat.
jdc1 - 12 Aug 2004 06:39 GMT
>> I would use Advantage,  I've seen an older get get really sick with
>> Frontline.. Frontline can be good with younger cat's but I would be
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> were a bit smaller. That's an advantage (no pun intended) for a long
> haired coon cat.

lol..reverse that first sentence...I'll go with Advantage.
Again..seems the last tubes I used were a tad smaller...(advantage)...yes?
jdc1 - 12 Aug 2004 07:14 GMT
>>> I would use Advantage,  I've seen an older get get really sick with
>>> Frontline.. Frontline can be good with younger cat's but I would be
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> lol..reverse that first sentence...I'll go with Advantage. Again..seems
> the last tubes I used were a tad smaller...(advantage)...yes?

Sorry to go on about this...It's permithrin that's contained in Hartz
cat flea drops. That's what made my cat go into seazures.  Fipronil is
what is in Frontline.  Imidacloprid is what is in Advantage.

Between Advantage and  Frontline....is  Imidacloprid safer for elderly
cats?  Or is it a toss up/ have to try it and see?  (not for fleas, but
for safety).
~*Connie*~ - 12 Aug 2004 12:43 GMT
there is more liquid in frontline because it gets fleas and ticks.  for
ticks it is only effective for 30 days, but it is effective for fleas for 3
months!

advantage only does fleas and is only good for 30 days, but it is smaller so
less liquid is going on at one time.

I personally - if I only had a problem with fleas - would go with frontline
jdc1 - 12 Aug 2004 13:27 GMT
> there is more liquid in frontline because it gets fleas and ticks.  for
> ticks it is only effective for 30 days, but it is effective for fleas for 3
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>
> I personally - if I only had a problem with fleas - would go with frontline

Ticks not in this area. I swear the small break off containers were
smaller than Frontline I have now.  The Advantage ads show these tubes
that look unfamiliar to safe treatment I bought last year. Advantage
tubes look almost cream like tubes in the ads I see now on the net.

The tubes I used successfully last yr were smaller green break offs.
Maybe those were Advantage and they package them differently now or I
was looking at an outdated/updated site.

Thanks for the replies, anything is better than Hartz.
Ted Davis - 12 Aug 2004 14:33 GMT
>there is more liquid in frontline because it gets fleas and ticks.  for
>ticks it is only effective for 30 days, but it is effective for fleas for 3
>months!

More like three weeks for fleas in the summer - four weeks or more for
ticks (based on eleven cats).   It does well enough to prevent attacks
of flea allergy for about a month though.

I use 0.5 ml on normal size cats, and 0.75 ml on very large ones - the
large cats do seem to make it a full month without signs of fleas.

T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu)
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Sherry - 16 Aug 2004 07:02 GMT
>Between Advantage and  Frontline....is  Imidacloprid safer for elderly
>cats?  Or is it a toss up/ have to try it and see?  (not for fleas, but
>for safety).

They're both "safe"... but any cat can have individual allergies to any
chemical. I've tried to research, and have yet to come up with any deadly
reactions to either product. I've treated dozens of cats with both products,
and only one has had a reaction. It was Frontline, and he began drooling and
panting immediately after application. I washed it off, and he was fine. Used
Advantage on him the next time, and he tolerated it just fine.

Sherry
whayface - 12 Aug 2004 14:12 GMT
>I would use Advantage,  I've seen an older get get really sick with
>Frontline.. Frontline can be good with younger cat's but I would be
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>
>Aimee

I would use Frontline if you cats go outdoors.  If they are strictly
indoors cats I would use Advantage.

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