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Kirruu Berry - 11 Aug 2004 18:17 GMT
Ok, so I've decided to shave two of my kitties.

Problem is - they are not declawed (indoor only), never would I do such a
horrid thing to them! They never scratched or hurt anybody, they don't
destroy the house (other then the couch but I allowed them to do that in the
first place, my fault. Now it's 'their' couch) and they get clipped
regularly. However - no groomers will take them to get shaved because
they're not declawed. Mind you, they are both extremely peaceful cats, I
don't even need help from anybody to get them clipped. But man, they are
both HAIRY beasts. Not long hair, but something in the middle. I talked to a
friend of mine, and he has it done regularly - helps a ton with hair all
over the house and his cat seems to be much happier about it too. One of my
cats hacks out furballs on a regular basis, and from what research I've
done, it might be very beneficial to both of them. So, I'd like to try to
shave them myself. I know they both will let me do that without any fuss.

Question is, does anybody out there do it at home as well? What tools do you
use? Any recommendation on the 'shaver'? Trim it first? I'd probably want to
leave about 1/3rd of an inch of fur on them, and give them the lion cut. Any
help/insight much appreciated!
m. L. Briggs - 11 Aug 2004 19:09 GMT
>Ok, so I've decided to shave two of my kitties.
>
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>leave about 1/3rd of an inch of fur on them, and give them the lion cut. Any
>help/insight much appreciated!

Suggestion:  Watch an expert do it first.
Question:  Do you brush and comb them regularly?
Kirruu Berry - 11 Aug 2004 19:28 GMT
Yep, of course. They get brushed, clipped, dental check, etc. on regular
basis.

But that doesn't change the fact I'd love to just plug them into a
steamcleaner!
Or bathe them in Nair. Or toss them into a washing machine. *for all
those people who think I'm serious right now - I'm not! Relax. I've
never hurt any of my animals, or done any of the above*. I just
patiently use my big steamcleaner all over the house on a regular basis
and remove the carpets of hair my 3 kitties produce. *looks for a shaver*

> Suggestion:  Watch an expert do it first.
> Question:  Do you brush and comb them regularly?
Sparky Polastri - 11 Aug 2004 19:53 GMT
> Yep, of course. They get brushed, clipped, dental check, etc. on regular
> basis.
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> patiently use my big steamcleaner all over the house on a regular basis
> and remove the carpets of hair my 3 kitties produce. *looks for a shaver*

If you havent already, you should look into one of those "hairball" foods
that has the soy lectins in it.

Like night and day for my cats.  Used to be one hairball every 3 days for
each of them, now one every three months for the longhair and NONE for the
shorthairs.

(Soy lectins destroy the "stickyness" of the hairballs, so they slide out
the other end a little at a time rather than causing issues in the gut.)
m. L. Briggs - 11 Aug 2004 23:05 GMT
>Yep, of course. They get brushed, clipped, dental check, etc. on regular
>basis.
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>> Suggestion:  Watch an expert do it first.
>> Question:  Do you brush and comb them regularly?

When my Siamese first adopted me (RB16) she was a terrible shedder.
My daughter-in-law said it was the worst she had ever seen.  I had
been using the store-bought food.  I changed to Science Diet and in a
short time it made a big difference.  Of course, I started the regular
brushing too.  I feed my current  cat Iams and give her daily
grooming.  She sheds but not to excess.  What kind of food do you give
your kitty?
Agua Girl - 12 Aug 2004 05:39 GMT
> Yep, of course. They get brushed, clipped, dental check, etc. on regular
> basis.
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> patiently use my big steamcleaner all over the house on a regular basis
> and remove the carpets of hair my 3 kitties produce. *looks for a shaver*

We had our groomer shave our Golden Retriever every year.  First
year I freaked..felt she had cut it way too short but Mags loved it so
that became her summer cut.  It is a great way to deal with all the
shedding all at once.

For a cat...have you asked the vet?  They shave them for surgery
so maybe they have a technique or perhaps one of the vet techs
would be willing to show you how.

AG
Silver - 12 Aug 2004 11:42 GMT
> Yep, of course. They get brushed, clipped, dental check, etc. on regular
> basis.
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> patiently use my big steamcleaner all over the house on a regular basis
> and remove the carpets of hair my 3 kitties produce. *looks for a shaver*

I think you have the wrong breed. Maybe you should get yourself a sphynx.
Aside from that, although I cannot possibly understand why anyone would
want to shave their cat and alter their natural beauty in the first place
(aside from
medical reasons) - I would get expert advice. One nick
with the razor might make them very uncooperative in the future. If you use
an
electric razor or clipper, you can still nick them or it might pull on the
hair. Cats
have very sensitive skin. It's not something to dive into without knowledge
and advice.

-Silver

"I love cats because I enjoy my home; & little by little, they become its
visible soul."

- Jean Cocteau 1889-1963.
Orchid - 11 Aug 2004 20:48 GMT
>Ok, so I've decided to shave two of my kitties.
>
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>regularly. However - no groomers will take them to get shaved because
>they're not declawed.

    *boggle*  That's horrific.  I'm a groomer and I *prefer*
clawed kitties because declawed ones are such biters.  Have you talked
to any groomers affiliated with a feline hospital?  What about calling
up your local TICA or ACFA club to see if they know of cat-friendly
groomers in your area.  *grin*  If you're in the DC Metro area I'd be
glad to take them.  :)

>So, I'd like to try to
>shave them myself. I know they both will let me do that without any fuss.
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>leave about 1/3rd of an inch of fur on them, and give them the lion cut. Any
>help/insight much appreciated!

    With cats closer is better because cat skin is *so* fragile.
Closer blades have less space between the teeth, which makes it harder
to accidentally catch and nick a fold of skin. Nicking cats is Not
Good(tm) because cat skin will tear like wet tissue paper once it is
nicked.  I use a #15 blade on most cats, or a #40 with clip-on combs
for longer cuts but I have been doing this for a good while.  Get some
experience before you try doing the #40-with-a-comb thing.  Get a
helper -- having someone else around to help restrain the cat when you
get to their bellies is 1000 times safer than trying to do it alone.
   
    If at all possible, get a professional to do it for you and/or
teach you how to do it.



Orchid
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rpl - 12 Aug 2004 01:29 GMT
> Ok, so I've decided to shave two of my kitties.
>
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> done, it might be very beneficial to both of them. So, I'd like to try to
> shave them myself. I know they both will let me do that without any fuss.

You could try grooming them. Use a fine comb/brush and get *all* the
loose fur; comb against the grain even... if they're trusting enough to
let you get near them with a buzzing shaver, then they're trusting
enough to let you "thatch" them. It could take a few days to actually
get all the loose hair out, but then once a week will catch it all.

I'm not sure how shaving the cats would help that much more, if even as
much.

pat
Agua Girl - 12 Aug 2004 05:42 GMT
> I'm not sure how shaving the cats would help that much more, if even as
> much.

You would be surprised...and as long as you don't tell them
they look funny, they don't know it :-)  My dad lives in the
desert and he has his long haired done.  Rufus is infinitely more
comfortable with the short cut in the summer and while brushing,
good diet, etc.. is all well in good..nothing removes the hair
like a good razor.  :-)

AG
Mary - 12 Aug 2004 02:48 GMT
>Question is, does anybody out there do it at home as well? What tools do you
>use? Any recommendation on the 'shaver'?

I see no reason why a groomer wouldn't do it. I've had my clawed cats groomed
before. Generally they will trim their claws before they start grooming them. I
suggest finding a groomer who'll do it, who knows how to trim cats then watch
them. You have to be careful. I took my dog to a groomer once and they trimmed
a nipple off. Seems my dog lunged for the guy, he got the nipple, then she bit
the $%&* out of him. I personally use a fine tooth rat comb to pull out any
loose hairs. Best to do this in bathroom or outside. I also sometimes just wet
a comb with water so you can pull out even more loose hairs. I always trim the
butt hair on my long hair cats so they don't get cling-ons. Be sure to treat
for fleas or they will scratch out even more hair. Make sure they are on a good
diet also.
AC - 23 Aug 2004 06:51 GMT
Cats have fur for the same reason you do. I wouldn't recommend shaving a cat
unless for medical reasons. If you don't like loose fur, why not get a
hamster?

> Ok, so I've decided to shave two of my kitties.
>
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> leave about 1/3rd of an inch of fur on them, and give them the lion cut. Any
> help/insight much appreciated!
Agua Girl - 22 Aug 2004 15:10 GMT
> Cats have fur for the same reason you do. I wouldn't recommend shaving a cat
> unless for medical reasons. If you don't like loose fur, why not get a
> hamster?

Harsh.  First off, I don't have fur,  I have hair...and I do cut
it quite often especially in the summer.  It's cooler.

If your cat doesn't need to wear a fur coat to protect if
from the elements it doesn't "hurt" the cat.  I doubt they
mean shave it down to the skin.  It just means making
a long haired cat a short haired cat...temporarily.

We did the same thing to our dog and she loved
it!   Much cooler.

AG
Sherry - 23 Aug 2004 16:00 GMT
>If your cat doesn't need to wear a fur coat to protect if
>from the elements it doesn't "hurt" the cat.  I doubt they
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>
>AG

True. Our pampered cats don't need their fur for protection from other beasts
and from the cold (not here, where temps reach 100 every summer). You just have
to make sure they're not exposed to the sun, their skin will sunburn without
fur.
My daughter shaves her 2  longhairs every summer. It's amazing how much more
playful and contented they are afterwards. I think it makes them feel better.

Sherry
AC - 25 Aug 2004 04:00 GMT
Sorry,...Wrong.

Cat's skin hasn't evolutionarliy developed to not have fur. As can be read
elsewhere in the topic, their skin is extremely fragile.

The cat's fur/skin system is designed with everything it needs to get it
through life. When humans impose their neuroses upon it, it will suffer, due
to the rapid change, and ill-equipped defense.

You cut your hair, and that's your business (let alone the fact you wouldn't
be cutting it so short if you were "in the wild", say paleolithic...). Can
you ask a cat whether it would like, or enjoys having short-back & sides?

> > Cats have fur for the same reason you do. I wouldn't recommend shaving a
> cat
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>
> AG
 
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