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Geno's Hotel
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Gene Royer - 06 Aug 2004 12:34 GMT This morning at 0400 hrs, I discovered a new visitor to the group of outside cats that I give shelter to.
This one was a beautiful, long-haired, totally black female. She had been here before--I'm sure of it--because she knew the feeding routine. She was also someone's personal pet because she allowed me to palpate her entire body--something I regularly to as many of the outside cats as possible in order to determine if there are any inordinate swellings or tumors present on them (If there is, I scoop them up and take them to the vet).
She was tame enough for that activity, although she insisted on hissing at me the whole time. That's the way little female cats are. After I fed the guys, she licked her paws and trotted off to her nearby home--wherever it is.
It is understandable that feral cats (domesticate cats who have not been tamed) are running loose because they cannot be housed. But I do not understand why people will allow their personal pets to roam that way. They do not deserve to have pets.
First chance I get, I'll snatch her up and make her strictly an insider. It will be the last time her feet will touch turf.
Hotel Geno: Cats check in, and the don't check out.
Isn't this an interesting message?
--Geno
rpl - 07 Aug 2004 00:55 GMT > Hotel Geno: Cats check in, and the don't check out.
> Isn't this an interesting message? Actually it is.
Keeping her inside against her will constitutes theft if she's somebody else's pet (obviously if the cat's recuperating from an injury or illness that's a different matter).
pat
Gene Royer - 07 Aug 2004 01:43 GMT > > Hotel Geno: Cats check in, and the don't check out. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > pat Cats to not have a right to free will. That is a virtue reserved only to humans. Mankind was given dominion over all the animals on earth and that prerogative still exists.
In my city there is a leash law which states that animals run loose are subject to be taken by animal control and disposed of. I *steal* them and check them into Geno's Hotel, and they don't check out. I hope you are not one of those silly people who lets their pets run loose.
If you are, then don't speak to me again.
--Geno
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shakra - 07 Aug 2004 05:41 GMT > > Keeping her inside against her will constitutes theft if she's somebody > > else's pet (obviously if the cat's recuperating from an injury or > > illness that's a different matter). I AGREE.. some cats like scratching the grass... it's a dilemma I have currently having moved from a house to an apartment with no ground access for my cat. You see, he likes to roam. He wears a bell and I want him to be happy, so I let him be.
> > pat > > Cats to not have a right to free will. That is a virtue reserved only to > humans. Mankind was given dominion over all the animals on earth and that > prerogative still exists. This attitude is the reason why there are so many species of animal in the world now EXTINCT! Mankind was not given a domination over anything.. we took it and with that comes the ultimate destruction of the planet we call home.
I HOPE YOU RETURN IN YOUR NEXT LIFE AS A CAT.. and then you will know what it is like to be imprisoned for being a certain species!
> In my city there is a leash law which states that animals run loose are > subject to be taken by animal control and disposed of. I *steal* them and > check them into Geno's Hotel, and they don't check out. I hope you are not > one of those silly people who lets their pets run loose. I wouldnt live in your city.. simple as that.. especially if all the people share your attitude towards animals.
> If you are, then don't speak to me again. > > --Geno > > - Dont speak to you again... I havent spoken to you at all and have no desire to start now.
Gene Royer - 07 Aug 2004 13:20 GMT > > > Keeping her inside against her will constitutes theft if she's somebody > > > else's pet (obviously if the cat's recuperating from an injury or [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Dont speak to you again... I havent spoken to you at all and have no desire > to start now. You dummy. I was speaking to rpl. (Bo back and read the message) But I'd appreciate it if you didn't speak to me again either.
--Geno
Gene Royer - 07 Aug 2004 21:16 GMT > > > Keeping her inside against her will constitutes theft if she's somebody > > > else's pet (obviously if the cat's recuperating from an injury or [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Dont speak to you again... I havent spoken to you at all and have no desire > to start now. Well, I'm certainly not going to give you helpful advice about your cat with the sore leg. Ask Kurt to write me direct and I will.
--Geno
shakra - 08 Aug 2004 04:28 GMT Aha! Now I understand why you make issues on newsgroups personal with bitchy comments back and forth...
EDIT: YOU are the crazy cat lady on your street! <-----------OMG! you are a man! even worse! retract your claws you bitch! or are you gay?? you look gay on your website.. my gaydar when "beepbeepbeep beepbeepbeep"
There's one in every town, and they live in their own little reality!
REALITY CHECK: And I will use your own quotes here to see what an imbecile you are: 1. You're opiniated in a bad way - "Cats to not have a right to free will. That is a virtue reserved only to humans. Mankind was given dominion over all the animals on earth and that prerogative still exists." Hello!??? Are you for real??? Someone please lock this person up... mankind is one of the animals on earth... so lets lock this one up, stick it in a gimp suit and f.ck it up the arse! See how you like domination..
2. Silly? You vs Me - "I hope you are not one of those silly people who lets their pets run loose." - Why??? Coz our pets might be happier than yours living in an OVERPOPULATED society??? How could a cat living in that population be happy without ever being let out??
you must have a lot of sh.t to clean up every day... and your house must stink... you wouldnt notice it but I'll bet your visitors do... oh.. whats that.... you stopped having visitors ages ago? I wonder why?
And last but not least: another lovely quote from Gene Royer "Well, I'm certainly not going to give you helpful advice about your cat with the sore leg. Ask Kurt to write me direct and I will."
My response: Gene Royer, you are a nasty piece of work... fit you better you go and spend some quality time with your zoo.. having that many pets, I'm surprised you have time for the internet, and surprised that you even interested, as you dont seem to like people at all.. and judging your last comment about Kurt - you dont like cats either... he's done nothing to you...
Here's my advice to you... dial 1800-INEEDTHERAPY
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Royer" <siregeno@Mindset.net> Newsgroups: alt.cats Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 10:56 PM Subject: Re: Geno's Hotel
> > >This morning at 0400 hrs, I discovered a new visitor to the group of > outside [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > entire > > >body--something I regularly to as many of the outside cats as possible in
> > >order to determine if there are any inordinate swellings or tumors > present [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > > >It is understandable that feral cats (domesticate cats who have not been
> > >tamed) are running loose because they cannot be housed. But I do not > > >understand why people will allow their personal pets to roam that way. > They > > >do not deserve to have pets. > > > > > >First chance I get, I'll snatch her up and make her strictly an insider.
> It > > >will be the last time her feet will touch turf. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Each cat gets fed twice daily in separate feeding bowls depending on what > their health requirements are, e.g., some need lower calorie food because of
> a propensity to gain weight, while others need higher protein/lower carb > food. Some get Omega 3 drops because of dry skin, etc. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > The outside feral cats, who cannot be housed, get fed twice daily with fresh
> water continuously from an automatic device. They get high quality dry food
> plus the same canned food as the insiders. I put Ivermectin in their food > once month to control ear mites, and I make sure they have warm/dry places
> in the winter and cool/dry places in the summer. > > If I see one of them looking sickly, I sneak up on it with a crab net and > give my vet a handful of angry cat to treat. He is an expert, and I pay him
> well. > > All the cats, inside and out are fixed and inoculated. When a new one shows
> up, if it is palpable I grab it and make it a resident. If it's feral and > untouchable, I trap it and get it fixed and inoculated. Often they stay > around because the facilities are a haven. > > The entire grounds are fenced with a high, brick wall and tall pickets. No
> dogs. > I like dogs, but they do not mix well with the cats. > > --Geno<and no bird feeders because bird is not good for the cats' diet>Royer
> > > > Keeping her inside against her will constitutes theft if she's > somebody [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > --Geno Rhonda - 08 Aug 2004 16:24 GMT Wow. What a surprisingly nasty post.
> Aha! Now I understand why you make issues on newsgroups personal with bitchy > comments back and forth... [quoted text clipped - 255 lines] >> >>--Geno Gene Royer - 08 Aug 2004 18:24 GMT > Wow. What a surprisingly nasty post. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > There's one in every town, and they live in their own little reality! Geno writes:
This is actually one of the funniest things I've read on Usenet in a long, long time. When people lose it the way she did, I crack up.
She accused me of everything from being a homosexual to living in a stinky house <g>.
Why, I'm surprised she didn't admonish me for not owning a tuxedo. I rent. (I even buried my dad in a rented tux. The payments are hell to keep up, but the old man sure looked great)
But what really amused me was her assertion that cats have free will. I think that's what set her off. That knucklehead Kurt made the same idiotic statement. I don't know where they get that idea. They must be vegetarian weirdos. (You know, vetetarians will only eat meat from animals that have exercised their "free will" and committed suicide). Whoop!
I nearly split a gut laughing on that one.
They need to read the Bible and see where their right to dominion comes from. It's in the first few chapters of Genesis.
--Geno<sitting on God's knee in the Lap of Luxury>Royer
Sahara (or wotever) wrote:
> > REALITY CHECK: And I will use your own quotes here to see what an > > imbecile you are: [quoted text clipped - 246 lines] > >> > >>--Geno M.C. Mullen - 07 Aug 2004 07:39 GMT | > > Hotel Geno: Cats check in, and the don't check out. | > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] | | --Geno I'd attach a message on a collar telling the owners if they don't obey that law the cat will be gone.
Carola
Gene Royer - 07 Aug 2004 16:14 GMT > | > > Hotel Geno: Cats check in, and the don't check out. > | > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Carola What collars? These animals have never seen the inside of a vet's shop. That's why I grab them up.
Not surprisingly, in all the many, many cases, I've never had a cat try to claw out and escape the Hotel. They get fed, watered and comforted. They get petted, have plenty of space to themselves and get to sleep in our bed if they choose. Many do.
They also get treats and don't have to worry about cars, ear mites, fleas, heartworms or being chased by dogs--who also run loose.
And in all the years, my gate bell has only been rung once by a girl looking for her cat. I didn't have it; but, of course, I would not have given it up anyway.
Besides, this is an upscale multi-ethnic subdivision, and I'd have to write the message in half a dozen languages--not counting English. Most other cultures do not bother to spay or neuter their animals. Hence the problem.
--Geno<Manager, front desk clerk and shuttle bus driver>Royer
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rpl - 07 Aug 2004 07:55 GMT > Cats to not have a right to free will. That is a virtue reserved only to > humans. Careless nomenclature on my part; substitute "as their God-given natures decree" if you're so inclined.
> Mankind was given dominion over all the animals on earth and that > prerogative still exists. So? Spend your weekends out in the woods staring down bears? Or do you stick with things that are smaller than you; domination purely for domination's sake is sick.
> In my city there is a leash law which states that animals run loose are > subject to be taken by animal control and disposed of. Draconian.
If you can provide a better home for them than I, then by all means drop by with a cat-carrier. Most of them were born outside though, and might be distinctly unhappy as indoor-only cats.
> I *steal* them and > check them into Geno's Hotel, and they don't check out. And what do you do when somebody comes to your door wondering if you've seen their pet ?
> I hope you are not > one of those silly people who lets their pets run loose. My current furry charges come and go more or less as it pleases them and doesn't bother me; the neighbours know who to call if a cat's bothering them.
> If you are, then don't speak to me again. <shrug> don't listen then; you wouldn't be the first or the last.
pat
[1] In between the name and your address, I picture you as having a southern mansion on a sprawling estate (which you probably don't, of course)
Gene Royer - 07 Aug 2004 13:22 GMT > > Cats to not have a right to free will. That is a virtue reserved only to > > humans. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > pat I suggested that you not speak to me again, and you did it anyway. How rude of you Please don't do it again.
And don't shrug at me either. That's also rude.
--Geno
rpl - 07 Aug 2004 20:07 GMT > I suggested that you not speak to me again, and you did it anyway. How rude > of you Please don't do it again. > > And don't shrug at me either. That's also rude. Guess what I'm doing now, then... I'm only using 9 fingers to type (and my name ain't Frodo).
pat
> --Geno Gene Royer - 07 Aug 2004 20:48 GMT > > I suggested that you not speak to me again, and you did it anyway. How rude > > of you Please don't do it again. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > pat If I guess right will you tell me?
By the way, most people use 8 fingers and a thumb. asdf jkl;
--Geno
rpl - 08 Aug 2004 14:16 GMT > By the way, most people use 8 fingers and a thumb. > asdf jkl; both thumbs to be a proper typist, IIRC, and thumbs are generally considered members of the "fingers" family (Tolkien for instance used the phrase "9 Fingered Frodo" not "Frodo of the 7 Fingers and 2 Thumbs").
pat
Gene Royer - 08 Aug 2004 17:21 GMT > > By the way, most people use 8 fingers and a thumb. > > asdf jkl; [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > pat How do you know Frodo had thumbs? He could have had nine fingers as apes have ten with no opposable thumbs.
But, getting back to your first question: "Guess what I'm doing now, then... I'm only using 9 fingers to type (and my name ain't Frodo)."
If you were only using nine fingers to type as you aver, then you had one extra. I have to assume that whatever you were doing, you were using that extra finger to do it, and I don't want to go there.
--Geno
rpl - 08 Aug 2004 23:05 GMT > If you were only using nine fingers to type as you aver, then you had one > extra. I have to assume that whatever you were doing, you were using that > extra finger to do it, and I don't want to go there. I can think of 3 things one could do with a spare digit... and one can be discounted because I'm quite capable of counting up to 21 without stressing myself mentally.
And the toolset the Hobbits used in "Lord of the Rings" included things you'd need an opposable digit for.
pat
Gene Royer - 08 Aug 2004 23:45 GMT > > If you were only using nine fingers to type as you aver, then you had one > > extra. I have to assume that whatever you were doing, you were using that [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > pat Yeah, like a monkey couldn't do it.
--Geno
rpl - 10 Aug 2004 00:44 GMT >>And the toolset the Hobbits used in "Lord of the Rings" included things >>you'd need an opposable digit for. > > Yeah, like a monkey couldn't do it. Watch it or you'll have the Hobbit Actor's Guild after ya.
pat
Silver - 12 Aug 2004 08:01 GMT > > > Hotel Geno: Cats check in, and the don't check out. > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > humans. Mankind was given dominion over all the animals on earth and that > prerogative still exists. Is that what you believe? Thank the goddess I'm pagan. We are not so taken over by our own egos that we do not value the world around us as much as we value ourselves. Do you also discount evolution and natural selection?
> In my city there is a leash law which states that animals run loose are > subject to be taken by animal control and disposed of. I *steal* them and > check them into Geno's Hotel, and they don't check out. I hope you are not > one of those silly people who lets their pets run loose. Cats can become experts at escape. If one of your pets accidentally got out, would you mind if someone snatched it? I know that you think you are helping the cat, and maybe you are, but I am sure that it would be against the law to take someone elses cat like that. I thought that you said earlier that the owners are first notified and fined? Maybe you should first try and find the owner and determine for yourself if they really are negligent.
-Silver
"I love cats because I enjoy my home; & little by little, they become its visible soul."
- Jean Cocteau 1889-1963.
m. L. Briggs - 07 Aug 2004 05:50 GMT >This morning at 0400 hrs, I discovered a new visitor to the group of outside >cats that I give shelter to. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >--Geno How man guests are curretly staying at your hotel?
Gene Royer - 07 Aug 2004 13:56 GMT > >This morning at 0400 hrs, I discovered a new visitor to the group of outside > >cats that I give shelter to. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > How man guests are curretly staying at your hotel? 24 insiders. We have a very large manor with a huge screened-in patio. Each cat gets fed twice daily in separate feeding bowls depending on what their health requirements are, e.g., some need lower calorie food because of a propensity to gain weight, while others need higher protein/lower carb food. Some get Omega 3 drops because of dry skin, etc.
Those who need medication get it whether they want to or not. They do not have free will.
The same with baths for a couple of the older guys who refuse to groom. I am a courageous person. My blood type is O pos.
The outside feral cats, who cannot be housed, get fed twice daily with fresh water continuously from an automatic device. They get high quality dry food plus the same canned food as the insiders. I put Ivermectin in their food once month to control ear mites, and I make sure they have warm/dry places in the winter and cool/dry places in the summer.
If I see one of them looking sickly, I sneak up on it with a crab net and give my vet a handful of angry cat to treat. He is an expert, and I pay him well.
All the cats, inside and out are fixed and inoculated. When a new one shows up, if it is palpable I grab it and make it a resident. If it's feral and untouchable, I trap it and get it fixed and inoculated. Often they stay around because the facilities are a haven.
The entire grounds are fenced with a high, brick wall and tall pickets. No dogs. I like dogs, but they do not mix well with the cats.
--Geno<and no bird feeders because bird is not good for the cats' diet>Royer
Gene Royer - 07 Aug 2004 14:19 GMT > > How man guests are curretly staying at your hotel? > > 24 insiders. Correction*
*25
--Geno<I keep forgetting about Scrotum, my newest>Royer
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