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Michael Balarama - 02 Aug 2004 17:27 GMT Our cat is really smart-can you teach a cat tricks like a dog? if so... what tricks.. thanks Michael
Agua Girl - 02 Aug 2004 14:37 GMT > Our cat is really smart-can you teach a cat tricks like a dog? if so... > what tricks.. > thanks You can train a cat to do on command, anything it can do normally. It just takes a lot more work than with a dog. Dogs are pack animals and inherently want to please the leader of the pack. Cats are more independent and don't typically feel the need to please..but that doesn't mean they won't. Find out what your cat loves, scritches, pieces of tuna, being brushed...etc. Than use that as a reward. I let Sasha play in the back yard (as long as I am home) because she always comes when called. She always comes in when I call her because when she does she gets brushed. She will also jump up on a bed, chair etc. on command because there is always something good waiting for her. This really saves on the back <g>. Cats are trainable. I wouldn't say you can get them to do "anything" but you might be surprised at what you can get them to do with the proper motivation.
AG
Silver - 04 Aug 2004 14:33 GMT > > Our cat is really smart-can you teach a cat tricks like a dog? if so... > > what tricks.. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > say you can get them to do "anything" but you might be surprised at > what you can get them to do with the proper motivation. Yes, I agree, but even with the tastiest 'positive reinforcement', your cat may not 'perform' every time. They need to remind you at times that they are only doing it because they want to, after all.
-Silver "I love cats because I enjoy my home; & little by little, they become its visible soul."
- Jean Cocteau 1889-1963.
Jean Hobbs - 26 Aug 2004 12:48 GMT My cat Wilson comes running in a hurry for my walking stick he's in love with it, dont know what he'll do when I get rid of it hope it wont be long now, he also jumps on the bed to order no no no not to sleep, because he knows{ or thinks} its game time I put pillows on the bed as my elct; blanket is getting old like me and he crouches behind them waiting for me to throw a ball.
Jean.P.
> > Our cat is really smart-can you teach a cat tricks like a dog? if so... > > what tricks.. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > AG Mary - 02 Aug 2004 18:35 GMT >Our cat is really smart-can you teach a cat tricks like a dog? if so... >what tricks.. There's actually a book on teaching cats tricks. You can teach them just about anything that you can teach a dog. The book is called "Cat Tricks, 29 silly stunts you and your cat can do together." by Barbara Siegel. My cat Mimi can shake hands, stand up, beg, stand up and go around in a circle, roll over, come when called. My other cat just knows how to eat and sleep.
Steve Piper - 02 Aug 2004 19:03 GMT Hi Michael,
Cats are highly trainable, my girlfriend has always had dogs so when we got a cat she still expected some tricks! We discovered our cat's love of tuna and watermelon and offered it to her as reward, you do have to be patient and not bother to "train" for more than 5 minutes at a time or the cat gets bored.
Coffee (our cat) can now do;
give paw (she offers her paw like a true lady!) high five (similar to give paw but batting at your hand quite high up) jump over stick balance on back legs (she can do this for like 10 minutes or something, eyes locked on a treat abover her head, like a meercat) kiss
There are a few variations of each depending on circumstances! We're working on "play piano" which I heard was quite easy to teach cats, she loves the piano anyway.
All of these are natural cat movements; cat's arms are as dextrous as ours, they rub noses (or kiss) to greet each other, as a kitten Coffee would often balance on her rear legs to look on top of boxes or to see over the footstool etc.
Cats learn well by copying, with "paw" we only had to show Coffee once or twice by gently lifting her paw into our hands whilst giving her a treat and saying "paw, paw" a lot, she soon got the idea and will do it for anyone now.
A lot of cats will learn to open doors and windows and so on just by watching what you do; if they get something they want out of it they're capable of very complicated sequences of actions and amazing feats of memory, just make sure training is always fun, always has a treat and playtime at the end, always give lots of love and encouragement and keep the sessions short!
Good luck,
Steve
> Our cat is really smart-can you teach a cat tricks like a dog? if so... > what tricks.. > thanks > Michael Gene Royer - 02 Aug 2004 19:22 GMT > Hi Michael, > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Steve Good one, Steve. Thanks.
My cats learn tricks by accident. They do something, and it works, and they remember and do it again. Two of them reach with their right paw when they want something because they did it, and we thought it was cute, and we reacted to their benefit.
WARNING: They also learn bad habits that way <g>.
--Geno
Sherry - 02 Aug 2004 23:02 GMT I only had one cat that knew a trick, and that's just because my daughter was out of school for the summer and spent time teaching him. She was learning sign language herself, and thought she'd teach him sign. She'd cup her hand, and open & close it like a fish's mouth. That was the sign for "fishy" (cat treats). Eventually you could make the "fishy sign" from across the room and he'd go running to the pantry where the treats were. She has long since moved away from home, but left the cat. He's an old man now, and he's forgotten the trick. Sherry
Ashley - 07 Aug 2004 22:43 GMT > Cats learn well by copying, with "paw" we only had to show Coffee once or > twice by gently lifting her paw into our hands whilst giving her a treat and > saying "paw, paw" a lot, she soon got the idea and will do it for anyone > now. I have "trained" one of my cats to "ask" when he wants to be picked up, by standing on his back legs and reaching up with his front legs, like a child raising their arms to be picked up.
This came about when, as an adolescent cat, he did this one day spontaneously. It was so damned cute, I just kept reinforcing whenever he did it - by picking him up, which was what he wanted - and not reinforcing when he didn't do it, ie, he didn't get picked up.
He learned *very* quickly, but then, after a while, it became a battle of wills, and he'd look at me as if to say "I know what you want me to do and I'm damned well not going to do it, but you *will* pick me up". So whoever's more determined on the day wins now! Sometimes he still does it as soon as I give the signal (bend slightly towards him, hands forward slightly), other times he just sits there and goes "Nah!".
Gene Royer - 07 Aug 2004 23:28 GMT > > Cats learn well by copying, with "paw" we only had to show Coffee once or > > twice by gently lifting her paw into our hands whilst giving her a treat [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > give the signal (bend slightly towards him, hands forward slightly), other > times he just sits there and goes "Nah!". I trained my owner Ashley Jane to pick me up. The way it started was one day I accidentally put my paw up to her, and she picked me up. So, I started doing it regularly because I really liked it. I trained her well, but sometimes she just doesn't know when to stop.
I think I've created a monster.
--The cat.
Ashley - 07 Aug 2004 23:38 GMT > I trained my owner Ashley Jane to pick me up. The way it started was one > day I accidentally put my paw up to her, and she picked me up. So, I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > --The cat. Don't worry, I'm aware of that one too :-)
The other thing he does which is really cute, but can be a bit annoying at times, is if he's lying back in my arms when I'm watching TV, if my free hand is anywhere within reaching distance, he'll wrap his two paws around it and force it down to under his chin at which point my instructions are to scratch. His will continue forcefully holding my hand in position until he has been scratched to his satisfaction ... which can take a while. First time it happened I was quite unconsciously scratching my own chin when, out of nowhere, these two black paws came up, captured my hand and forced it into the desired position. Did I laugh or what?!
AC - 28 Aug 2004 00:13 GMT So cute!
> > I trained my owner Ashley Jane to pick me up. The way it started was one > > day I accidentally put my paw up to her, and she picked me up. So, I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > of nowhere, these two black paws came up, captured my hand and forced it > into the desired position. Did I laugh or what?! Luvskats00 - 02 Aug 2004 19:58 GMT Here's a nice article about training cats. http://www.newsday.com/mynews/ny-lspets3915319aug02,0,5735994.column
CATS WILL WORK FOR GARLIC CHICKEN By Denise Flaim (Newsday)
'Cats come when they feel like it, not when they're told," purrs Halle Berry to Benjamin Bratt as he orders her
"Catwoman" character to surrender.
Her 45 feline co-stars would beg to differ.
"Cats can be trained - it's just that not all people can get them to be," says Mark Harden, head trainer for Boone's Animals for Hollywood in Castaic, Calif., which provided the newly released film's cat cast. "Cats have a different motivation and a different level of needing to please. It's not like a dog, but it's there."
The three "lead cats" in "Catwoman" - a trio of look-alike Egyptian Maus playing Midnight, who breathes life, not to mention superpowers, into Berry's character - learned 50 tricks for the film, about 15 of which were eventually used. Among them: sitting, standing and lying down on cue; staying; chasing and retrieving objects; jumping onto a shoulder; and following the beam of a laser pointer with their eyes and heads to achieve difficult "look-away" shots.
Despite the director's initial skepticism about the cats' trainability, only a handful of shots in the film used CGI cats - movie jargon for "computer generated image."
Like many animal trainers, Harden uses positive reinforcement - rewarding desired behavior - as a training tool.
In the four months of training leading up to the film, Harden used a clicker as a "bridge," or auditory IOU. "It's like a debit card - as they start 'chaining' behaviors or tricks together, we use the clicker to let them know a treat is coming."
The payoff is usually chicken marinated in garlic, so the kitties get a whiff of the reward to come, though sheer attention - petting and cooing - is another reward. Harden reserves playing with toys such as a feather wand for unwinding after training.
Harden says all felines, not just his Hollywood cat pack, are trainable. Patience is crucial, as is keeping the first few tricks simple. (He suggests getting your cat to hop up on a chair by luring him with a piece of food, then rewarding him.) Create a "habit of need" by feeding the cat at the same time each day, "so he knows where food comes from and doesn't think the food gods are leaving it for him."
Reluctant students may require a leash. Otherwise, "if they're quick enough, the whole thing is over and you spend a day digging them out from behind the VCR."
Despite the species' reputation for aloofness and fierce independence, Harden says consistency counts for a lot: He taught his house cat not to go out an open door and to stay out of the flower beds in the backyard with sheer diligence, repetition and the occasional foot stomp.
While Harden gets most of his purebreds from breeders, he estimates 85 percent of his feline workforce comes from shelters. Being photogenic is one requirement for stardom. But so is being generic.
"The biggest thing we look for are cats that are matchable," Harden says, referring to a cat's ability to double for another. Patterned cats such as calicos can be too hard to match. Ditto for a kitty with a big color patch over the eye or mouth, which can't be covered with makeup, or a cat with two different color eyes. And nobody wants a fat cat: "Chronically overweight cats are very difficult to motivate."
More than two dozen of the "Catwoman" cats weren't matchable enough to continue their acting careers after filming wrapped. All were adopted, not least of all Plato, an orange-and-white longhair with a distinctive patch over his lip. He went home with Berry, previously an avowed "dog person."
Harden started his training career 25 years ago with exotics, and he has difficulty singling out the trickiest species to work with, because everything is relative.
"A lot of the animals that you think are hard, like lions and leopards, aren't asked to do anything that difficult," he explains. "They jump or snarl and that's it. But with something that's very capable, like a dog or monkey, the action gets very hard," because writers and directors expect more from them.
As for his bewhiskered, tail- twitching actors, he thinks their reputation for not being trainable isn't going to change anytime soon.
"I think cats are like the dolphins," Harden concludes. "They have very good PR agencies."
Email: denise.flaim@newsday.com
Copyright © 2004, Newsday, Inc.
equalizer - 03 Aug 2004 00:06 GMT >Our cat is really smart-can you teach a cat tricks like a dog? if so... >what tricks.. >thanks >Michael I've trained my 4 cats to lead me around like an idiot, fulfilling their every whim....
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