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David Maggs - 05 Jul 2004 19:23 GMT
Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i put
water down
he doesnt seem to bother with it.

Dave Maggs
Luvskats00 - 05 Jul 2004 19:30 GMT
"David Maggs" david.maggs1@btinternet.com

>Should i give my cat water.He has >cat meat which is 80% water .If i >put
water down
>he doesnt seem to bother with it.

Let me ask you this, "Dave".....human food contains water/moisture. Would you
withhold liquids (water, juice, soda, milk, etc)? Of  course not.  Give your
cat a bowl of water, changing it once-twice a day. During the summer, you might
want to add an ice cube.
RichC - 05 Jul 2004 20:40 GMT
As long as we're talking about water, why is it that our cat always has to
touch his paw in his water before drinking? Habit, or is this common among
other cats also?

> "David Maggs" david.maggs1@btinternet.com
>
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> cat a bowl of water, changing it once-twice a day. During the summer, you might
> want to add an ice cube.
hpickering@austin.rr.com - 05 Jul 2004 20:44 GMT
>As long as we're talking about water, why is it that our cat always has to
>touch his paw in his water before drinking? Habit, or is this common among
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>might
>> want to add an ice cube.

mine do that too. I guess they can't see the water level and are
testing it.
Judy - 05 Jul 2004 21:28 GMT
I can't say how common this is, but it's definitely not unheard of. Both my
previous and current cat did this until I floated the top of an oj bottle in
the bowl. Seems that the level of the water is difficult for some cats to
see.

Judy
> As long as we're talking about water, why is it that our cat always has to
> touch his paw in his water before drinking? Habit, or is this common among
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> might
> > want to add an ice cube.
Steve Piper - 06 Jul 2004 01:43 GMT
Ours has two water bowls in different rooms; one a smooth mirrored finish,
the other more like a brushed finish, she often dunks her whole nose into
the water in the mirrored one by mistake and looks very embarassed. Didn't I
hear somewhere that a cat's vision right below their nose is virtually non
existent; using their paw is a pretty smart way of getting an idea of water
depth!

Steve

> I can't say how common this is, but it's definitely not unheard of. Both my
> previous and current cat did this until I floated the top of an oj bottle in
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> > might
> > > want to add an ice cube.
Ted Davis - 06 Jul 2004 02:33 GMT
>I can't say how common this is, but it's definitely not unheard of. Both my
>previous and current cat did this until I floated the top of an oj bottle in
>the bowl. Seems that the level of the water is difficult for some cats to
>see.

This seems to vary with the bowl as well as with the cat: stainless
steel bowls seem to be the most difficult for the cats to see the
water level in.  For a while, I tried pumping air bubbles through the
water to keep it agitated, but some of the cats that have formed
habits of pawing the water bowl continued to try to shake up the water
by dragging the bowl around the room.  I cured that, but now the water
is usually muddy from their paws.

T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body)
Amanda Jones - 06 Jul 2004 08:24 GMT
> As long as we're talking about water, why is it that our cat always has
> to
> touch his paw in his water before drinking? Habit, or is this common
> among
> other cats also?

The younger of my cat cubs (about 14 weeks at the moment) won't even stick
his paw in the water. Which is a problem, because he keeps putting plastic
toys in there!

He then stands next to it, waving his paw near the surface but refusing to
put the paw in to get the toy out. He just squeaks at anyone handy until
some mug fishes it out for him!

Amanda
Amy Gray - 05 Jul 2004 20:10 GMT
>Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i put
>water down
>he doesnt seem to bother with it.
You should leave your cat fresh cold water 24/7 in pleniful supply,
especially when it is hot/humid/dew point above 62.   Even more
critical if the dew point is above 70.
The Bulldog - 06 Jul 2004 06:24 GMT
> Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i put
> water down
> he doesnt seem to bother with it.

Our cat loves water.  If you don't have a fresh bowl for her out, she will
drink out of the toilet (which is a strange sight to see in the middle of
the night).  For a treat, I will leave the bathroom faucet with a little
trickle.  She loves COLD water...

Bulldog...
M.C. Mullen - 06 Jul 2004 06:36 GMT
| Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i put
| water down
| he doesnt seem to bother with it.
|
| Dave Maggs

Oh, you must offer your cat water.
He might drink when you're not looking.

Carola
nimue - 07 Jul 2004 14:07 GMT
>> Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i
>> put water down
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Carola

He probably drinks when you are not looking.  My cats are always very
private about drinking water -- they don't like to be watched.  PUT FRESH
WATER DOWN FOR YOUR CAT EVERY SINGLE DAY!

Signature

nimue

"If I had created  reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

Agua Girl - 07 Jul 2004 14:31 GMT
> >> Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i
> >> put water down
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> private about drinking water -- they don't like to be watched.  PUT FRESH
> WATER DOWN FOR YOUR CAT EVERY SINGLE DAY!

That's kind of funny.  My cats have never been shy about drinking in
front of me..or anyone for that matter.
I just got my cat one of those filtering water dishes.  It's easier than
having
to rinse and refill the bowl every morning.  She stalked it for two days.
(I left her regular water bowl down, just moved it).  Now she will sit over
it for 20 minutes, sometimes drinking...sometimes guarding it or playing
with the water flow.

AG
RichC - 07 Jul 2004 17:31 GMT
For some reason our cat would rather drink out of a muddy puddle in the
backyard then his clean water dish.  The same thing is true about table
scraps.  He would rather dig out a piece of chicken fat out of the garbage
can rather than eat a piece of tender chicken breast if given the
opertunity.

> >> Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i
> >> put water down
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
> Joss Whedon
Sherry - 07 Jul 2004 17:38 GMT
>For some reason our cat would rather drink out of a muddy puddle in the
>backyard then his clean water dish.  The same thing is true about table
>scraps.  He would rather dig out a piece of chicken fat out of the garbage
>can rather than eat a piece of tender chicken breast if given

Sounds like mine. They have two fresh water bowls indoors, and one outdoors.
But they are constantly either trying to drink out of the toilet or the
birdbath. The second rule is, anything dug out of the trash tastes better than
whatever's in the bowl.

Sherry
M.C. Mullen - 07 Jul 2004 21:48 GMT
| For some reason our cat would rather drink out of a muddy puddle in the
| backyard then his clean water dish.  The same thing is true about table
| scraps.  He would rather dig out a piece of chicken fat out of the garbage
| can rather than eat a piece of tender chicken breast if given the
| opertunity.

Must be a down to earth cat. Here we call this 'alternative living'  LOL

Carola
AC - 31 Jul 2004 01:53 GMT
Cats, unlike humans aren't conditioned to our "higher" interpretations of
"dirty" or "clean".

They work on instinct, and taste. If it's fun, satisfying, and/or tastes
good, a cat'll do it!~)

> For some reason our cat would rather drink out of a muddy puddle in the
> backyard then his clean water dish.  The same thing is true about table
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> > influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
> > Joss Whedon
jungle - 31 Jul 2004 14:56 GMT
my cat will only drink out of the toilet. When she hears me flush she comes
running... I can leave water out for her but she wont even bother with it.

> Cats, unlike humans aren't conditioned to our "higher" interpretations of
> "dirty" or "clean".
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> > > influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
> > > Joss Whedon
Jan-Inge Fl?cht - 31 Jul 2004 15:10 GMT
on 2004-07-31, jungle supposed :

> my cat will only drink out of the toilet. When she hears me flush she comes
> running... I can leave water out for her but she wont even bother with it.

Its common behaviour. When the cat knows where ti find fresh water..
Keep the toilet clean and do not tell Your friends (the cats friends)..
:')

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: Jan-Inge Flücht
: jinge@intemail.com
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AC - 01 Aug 2004 22:38 GMT
Keeping it clean is a good idea, but I wouldn't use harsh chemicals such as
bleach, or any of those dispensing things... They would be nasty for a cat
to ingest.

> on 2004-07-31, jungle supposed :
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> : jinge@intemail.com
> : www.jinge.se
Gene Royer - 01 Aug 2004 19:50 GMT
> my cat will only drink out of the toilet. When she hears me flush she comes
> running... I can leave water out for her but she wont even bother with it.

They're funny.  Arnold will only drink out of a dripping faucet, and James
will only drink off his paw.  He fishes in the water and licks it.  Yes, I
have to change the water *daily*.

He never catches a fish.

--Geno
Silver - 04 Aug 2004 13:32 GMT
> my cat will only drink out of the toilet. When she hears me flush she comes
> running... I can leave water out for her but she wont even bother with it.

Cats seem to prefer to drink out of a toilet bowl, esp. if their water is in
a plastic dish. I think it is more similar to 'ground water', maybe the
taste is better. I prefer to drink from a glass, so why should a cat not
have its preferences. If this is a problem for you, then try closing the lid
on the toilet. If not, let your cat drink and keep the toilet bowl clean.

-Silver
"I love cats because I enjoy my home; & little by little, they become its
visible soul."

- Jean Cocteau 1889-1963.
jungle - 04 Aug 2004 15:22 GMT
not a problem for me. I let her drink whenever she wants.. sometimes I have
to wait for her to finish her drink before I can 'go' :)

> > my cat will only drink out of the toilet. When she hears me flush she
> comes
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> - Jean Cocteau 1889-1963.
Jessy 4 Paws - 31 Jul 2004 19:01 GMT
Cats prefer rainwater as it doesn't have limescale and the stuff they put
into tap water and so tastes better for them.

> Cats, unlike humans aren't conditioned to our "higher" interpretations of
> "dirty" or "clean".
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> > > influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
> > > Joss Whedon
Gene Royer - 01 Aug 2004 19:54 GMT
> Cats prefer rainwater as it doesn't have limescale and the stuff they put
> into tap water and so tastes better for them.

My outside (feral) guys will drink from rain puddles rather than the fresh
stuff I put in their sheltered water bowls.  It is a hazard for them because
of insecticides that I put out from time to time to kill fire ants, so I try
to limit that procedure as much as possible.

You do what you can.

--Geno

> > Cats, unlike humans aren't conditioned to our "higher" interpretations of
> > "dirty" or "clean".
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> > > > influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
> > > > Joss Whedon
RichC - 07 Aug 2004 03:37 GMT
> My outside (feral) guys will drink from rain puddles rather than the fresh
> stuff I put in their sheltered water bowls.  It is a hazard for them because
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> --Geno

As long as you brought up fire ants....We just moved to Florida & our cat
goes out on the grass occasionally (he doesn't seem to like it as much as
the grass up north) but do the fire ants sting your cat?  I haven't see any
yet but I'm sure there around.
Gene Royer - 07 Aug 2004 14:22 GMT
> > My outside (feral) guys will drink from rain puddles rather than the fresh
> > stuff I put in their sheltered water bowls.  It is a hazard for them
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> the grass up north) but do the fire ants sting your cat?  I haven't see any
> yet but I'm sure there around.

Fire ants are a hazard for both man and beast.  I put out Diazanon?
regularly to control their foraging; but as I pointed out, the runoff is not
good for the cats when they sip from puddles.  I have an automatic device
that fills their drinking bowls continuously with fresh water, but they are
uncivil little creatures.   I do the best I can.

BTW, fireants will invade your house unless you take offensive measures.

--Geno
RichC - 08 Aug 2004 16:58 GMT
> BTW, fireants will invade your house unless you take offensive measures.
>
> --Geno

I was told the fire ants don't come indoors.  We're having insect tubes run
inside the exterior walls.  I hope that will stop them.
Gene Royer - 08 Aug 2004 18:26 GMT
> > BTW, fireants will invade your house unless you take offensive measures.
> >
> > --Geno
> >
> I was told the fire ants don't come indoors.  We're having insect tubes run
> inside the exterior walls.  I hope that will stop them.

Fireants do not know it is a house and they are not supposed to come in.
Best way to keep them out is to put fireant granules (Diazon or similar)
around the foundations regularly.

--Geno
rpl - 08 Aug 2004 23:08 GMT
> We're having insect tubes

eh?

> run
> inside the exterior walls.  I hope that will stop them.

pat
RichC - 09 Aug 2004 03:54 GMT
When you're having a new house built, you can have a small tube (about 3/16"
in Dia) run through the studs or furring strips on all the outside walls
that connect to a box located on the outside wall.  The tube actually has
small holes in so when the system is pressurized it injects a clod of
insecticide only in the walls.  This supposedly blocks all the bugs.  We'll
see.

> > We're having insect tubes
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> pat
rpl - 10 Aug 2004 00:48 GMT
> When you're having a new house built, you can have a small tube (about 3/16"
> in Dia) run through the studs or furring strips on all the outside walls
> that connect to a box located on the outside wall.  The tube actually has
> small holes in so when the system is pressurized it injects a clod of
> insecticide only in the walls.  This supposedly blocks all the bugs.  We'll
> see.

neat (wouldn't work here I don't think... place is frozen half the year)

pat
RichC - 10 Aug 2004 12:01 GMT
I doubt if you have the insect problems that Florida has other than a few
ants in the summer.

> > When you're having a new house built, you can have a small tube (about 3/16"
> > in Dia) run through the studs or furring strips on all the outside walls
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> pat
rpl - 10 Aug 2004 16:28 GMT
> I doubt if you have the insect problems that Florida has other than a few
> ants in the summer.

mosquitoes and blackflies can make life in some areas a living hell,
seasonally. Of course the time of year when all the insects are hiding
is the time of year you're bundled up so much they couldn't get at you
anyways.

pat
Sherry - 31 Jul 2004 21:04 GMT
>Cats, unlike humans aren't conditioned to our "higher" interpretations of
>"dirty" or "clean".
>
>They work on instinct, and taste. If it's fun, satisfying, and/or tastes
>good, a cat'll do it!~)

Yeah, but mine insists on drinking out of the birdbath. I guess the water is
bird-flavored. I clean it about every other day but still, I hate her drinking
out of it.

Sherry
Fat Freddy - 01 Aug 2004 03:25 GMT
One of our cats is a toilet drinker also. My biggest fear is that she
will fall in and drown.

She also likes to drink out of the spa. Every evening before bed we
soak in the hot water for a few minutes and Fluffy always jumps up and
drinks the water. We try to discourage this as the bromine and other
chemicals in the water can't be good for her.
AC - 01 Aug 2004 22:36 GMT
Hehe, I like that.

If I was a cat, I'm sure I'd prefer bird-flavoured water!

> >Cats, unlike humans aren't conditioned to our "higher" interpretations of
> >"dirty" or "clean".
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Sherry
AC - 31 Jul 2004 01:49 GMT
Yes, you should give water... Digesting a high protein-based diet definitely
requires extra water. Without it, the cat will be unhealthy/die/worse.

> Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i put
> water down
> he doesnt seem to bother with it.
>
> Dave Maggs
Jessy 4 Paws - 31 Jul 2004 18:58 GMT
What's worse than dying?

> Yes, you should give water... Digesting a high protein-based diet definitely
> requires extra water. Without it, the cat will be unhealthy/die/worse.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> >
> > Dave Maggs
Silver - 04 Aug 2004 13:28 GMT
> Yes, you should give water... Digesting a high protein-based diet definitely
> requires extra water. Without it, the cat will be unhealthy/die/worse.

Sorry, but isn't a cat supposed to have a high-protein diet anyway? They
need more protein than dogs after all. A cat does need extra water with dry
food, I know that, but most wet foods should have a high water content
anyway and regardless of that - water should always be freely available at
any rate.

-Silver
"I love cats because I enjoy my home; & little by little, they become its
visible soul."

- Jean Cocteau 1889-1963.
Iain Scott - 08 Aug 2004 07:55 GMT
I usually add water to their 'WHISKAS' cat food in order to ensure
they get water. We are going through a very humid summer now in London
and we also leave water out. However the cats won't drink from a water
bowl but will drink from the drain-off of the large plant pots we have
or from the indoor water 'fountain' we got for them.

I tried putting a plastic floating object into the water bowl. I think
somebody suggested that idea here but the cats fished it out and
played football with it soaking the kitchen floor. No problem and it
was fun to watch ...

Iain

>> Yes, you should give water... Digesting a high protein-based diet
>definitely
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>- Jean Cocteau 1889-1963.
RichC - 08 Aug 2004 17:01 GMT
Our cat is puzzled by an ice cube in his water bowl. He stands there just
looking at it.

> I tried putting a plastic floating object into the water bowl. I think
> somebody suggested that idea here but the cats fished it out and
> played football with it soaking the kitchen floor. No problem and it
> was fun to watch ...
>
> Iain
Gene Royer - 08 Aug 2004 18:29 GMT
> Our cat is puzzled by an ice cube in his water bowl. He stands there just
> looking at it.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> >
> > Iain

Explain to him that when water freezes, its mass remains the same but its
volume is increased.  That makes it lighter by volume than the liquid that
supports it.

This will satisfy his curiosity and make him relax.  He will be a better cat
for it.

I know it helped mine.

--Geno
RichC - 09 Aug 2004 03:56 GMT
> Explain to him that when water freezes, its mass remains the same but its
> volume is increased.  That makes it lighter by volume than the liquid that
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> --Geno

I tried that but he's got "ADD".
 
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