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David Maggs - 05 Jul 2004 19:23 GMT Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i put water down he doesnt seem to bother with it.
Dave Maggs
Luvskats00 - 05 Jul 2004 19:30 GMT "David Maggs" david.maggs1@btinternet.com
>Should i give my cat water.He has >cat meat which is 80% water .If i >put water down
>he doesnt seem to bother with it. Let me ask you this, "Dave".....human food contains water/moisture. Would you withhold liquids (water, juice, soda, milk, etc)? Of course not. Give your cat a bowl of water, changing it once-twice a day. During the summer, you might want to add an ice cube.
RichC - 05 Jul 2004 20:40 GMT As long as we're talking about water, why is it that our cat always has to touch his paw in his water before drinking? Habit, or is this common among other cats also?
> "David Maggs" david.maggs1@btinternet.com > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > cat a bowl of water, changing it once-twice a day. During the summer, you might > want to add an ice cube. hpickering@austin.rr.com - 05 Jul 2004 20:44 GMT >As long as we're talking about water, why is it that our cat always has to >touch his paw in his water before drinking? Habit, or is this common among [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >might >> want to add an ice cube. mine do that too. I guess they can't see the water level and are testing it.
Judy - 05 Jul 2004 21:28 GMT I can't say how common this is, but it's definitely not unheard of. Both my previous and current cat did this until I floated the top of an oj bottle in the bowl. Seems that the level of the water is difficult for some cats to see.
Judy
> As long as we're talking about water, why is it that our cat always has to > touch his paw in his water before drinking? Habit, or is this common among [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > might > > want to add an ice cube. Steve Piper - 06 Jul 2004 01:43 GMT Ours has two water bowls in different rooms; one a smooth mirrored finish, the other more like a brushed finish, she often dunks her whole nose into the water in the mirrored one by mistake and looks very embarassed. Didn't I hear somewhere that a cat's vision right below their nose is virtually non existent; using their paw is a pretty smart way of getting an idea of water depth!
Steve
> I can't say how common this is, but it's definitely not unheard of. Both my > previous and current cat did this until I floated the top of an oj bottle in [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > might > > > want to add an ice cube. Ted Davis - 06 Jul 2004 02:33 GMT >I can't say how common this is, but it's definitely not unheard of. Both my >previous and current cat did this until I floated the top of an oj bottle in >the bowl. Seems that the level of the water is difficult for some cats to >see. This seems to vary with the bowl as well as with the cat: stainless steel bowls seem to be the most difficult for the cats to see the water level in. For a while, I tried pumping air bubbles through the water to keep it agitated, but some of the cats that have formed habits of pawing the water bowl continued to try to shake up the water by dragging the bowl around the room. I cured that, but now the water is usually muddy from their paws.
T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body)
Amanda Jones - 06 Jul 2004 08:24 GMT > As long as we're talking about water, why is it that our cat always has > to > touch his paw in his water before drinking? Habit, or is this common > among > other cats also? The younger of my cat cubs (about 14 weeks at the moment) won't even stick his paw in the water. Which is a problem, because he keeps putting plastic toys in there!
He then stands next to it, waving his paw near the surface but refusing to put the paw in to get the toy out. He just squeaks at anyone handy until some mug fishes it out for him!
Amanda
Amy Gray - 05 Jul 2004 20:10 GMT >Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i put >water down >he doesnt seem to bother with it. You should leave your cat fresh cold water 24/7 in pleniful supply, especially when it is hot/humid/dew point above 62. Even more critical if the dew point is above 70.
The Bulldog - 06 Jul 2004 06:24 GMT > Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i put > water down > he doesnt seem to bother with it. Our cat loves water. If you don't have a fresh bowl for her out, she will drink out of the toilet (which is a strange sight to see in the middle of the night). For a treat, I will leave the bathroom faucet with a little trickle. She loves COLD water...
Bulldog...
M.C. Mullen - 06 Jul 2004 06:36 GMT | Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i put | water down | he doesnt seem to bother with it. | | Dave Maggs Oh, you must offer your cat water. He might drink when you're not looking.
Carola
nimue - 07 Jul 2004 14:07 GMT >> Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i >> put water down [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Carola He probably drinks when you are not looking. My cats are always very private about drinking water -- they don't like to be watched. PUT FRESH WATER DOWN FOR YOUR CAT EVERY SINGLE DAY!
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Agua Girl - 07 Jul 2004 14:31 GMT > >> Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i > >> put water down [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > private about drinking water -- they don't like to be watched. PUT FRESH > WATER DOWN FOR YOUR CAT EVERY SINGLE DAY! That's kind of funny. My cats have never been shy about drinking in front of me..or anyone for that matter. I just got my cat one of those filtering water dishes. It's easier than having to rinse and refill the bowl every morning. She stalked it for two days. (I left her regular water bowl down, just moved it). Now she will sit over it for 20 minutes, sometimes drinking...sometimes guarding it or playing with the water flow.
AG
RichC - 07 Jul 2004 17:31 GMT For some reason our cat would rather drink out of a muddy puddle in the backyard then his clean water dish. The same thing is true about table scraps. He would rather dig out a piece of chicken fat out of the garbage can rather than eat a piece of tender chicken breast if given the opertunity.
> >> Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i > >> put water down [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF." > Joss Whedon Sherry - 07 Jul 2004 17:38 GMT >For some reason our cat would rather drink out of a muddy puddle in the >backyard then his clean water dish. The same thing is true about table >scraps. He would rather dig out a piece of chicken fat out of the garbage >can rather than eat a piece of tender chicken breast if given Sounds like mine. They have two fresh water bowls indoors, and one outdoors. But they are constantly either trying to drink out of the toilet or the birdbath. The second rule is, anything dug out of the trash tastes better than whatever's in the bowl.
Sherry
M.C. Mullen - 07 Jul 2004 21:48 GMT | For some reason our cat would rather drink out of a muddy puddle in the | backyard then his clean water dish. The same thing is true about table | scraps. He would rather dig out a piece of chicken fat out of the garbage | can rather than eat a piece of tender chicken breast if given the | opertunity. Must be a down to earth cat. Here we call this 'alternative living' LOL
Carola
AC - 31 Jul 2004 01:53 GMT Cats, unlike humans aren't conditioned to our "higher" interpretations of "dirty" or "clean".
They work on instinct, and taste. If it's fun, satisfying, and/or tastes good, a cat'll do it!~)
> For some reason our cat would rather drink out of a muddy puddle in the > backyard then his clean water dish. The same thing is true about table [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF." > > Joss Whedon jungle - 31 Jul 2004 14:56 GMT my cat will only drink out of the toilet. When she hears me flush she comes running... I can leave water out for her but she wont even bother with it.
> Cats, unlike humans aren't conditioned to our "higher" interpretations of > "dirty" or "clean". [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > > influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF." > > > Joss Whedon Jan-Inge Fl?cht - 31 Jul 2004 15:10 GMT on 2004-07-31, jungle supposed :
> my cat will only drink out of the toilet. When she hears me flush she comes > running... I can leave water out for her but she wont even bother with it. Its common behaviour. When the cat knows where ti find fresh water.. Keep the toilet clean and do not tell Your friends (the cats friends)..
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: Jan-Inge Flücht : jinge@intemail.com : www.jinge.se AC - 01 Aug 2004 22:38 GMT Keeping it clean is a good idea, but I wouldn't use harsh chemicals such as bleach, or any of those dispensing things... They would be nasty for a cat to ingest.
> on 2004-07-31, jungle supposed : > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > : jinge@intemail.com > : www.jinge.se Gene Royer - 01 Aug 2004 19:50 GMT > my cat will only drink out of the toilet. When she hears me flush she comes > running... I can leave water out for her but she wont even bother with it. They're funny. Arnold will only drink out of a dripping faucet, and James will only drink off his paw. He fishes in the water and licks it. Yes, I have to change the water *daily*.
He never catches a fish.
--Geno
Silver - 04 Aug 2004 13:32 GMT > my cat will only drink out of the toilet. When she hears me flush she comes > running... I can leave water out for her but she wont even bother with it. Cats seem to prefer to drink out of a toilet bowl, esp. if their water is in a plastic dish. I think it is more similar to 'ground water', maybe the taste is better. I prefer to drink from a glass, so why should a cat not have its preferences. If this is a problem for you, then try closing the lid on the toilet. If not, let your cat drink and keep the toilet bowl clean.
-Silver "I love cats because I enjoy my home; & little by little, they become its visible soul."
- Jean Cocteau 1889-1963.
jungle - 04 Aug 2004 15:22 GMT not a problem for me. I let her drink whenever she wants.. sometimes I have to wait for her to finish her drink before I can 'go' :)
> > my cat will only drink out of the toilet. When she hears me flush she > comes [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > - Jean Cocteau 1889-1963. Jessy 4 Paws - 31 Jul 2004 19:01 GMT Cats prefer rainwater as it doesn't have limescale and the stuff they put into tap water and so tastes better for them.
> Cats, unlike humans aren't conditioned to our "higher" interpretations of > "dirty" or "clean". [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > > influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF." > > > Joss Whedon Gene Royer - 01 Aug 2004 19:54 GMT > Cats prefer rainwater as it doesn't have limescale and the stuff they put > into tap water and so tastes better for them. My outside (feral) guys will drink from rain puddles rather than the fresh stuff I put in their sheltered water bowls. It is a hazard for them because of insecticides that I put out from time to time to kill fire ants, so I try to limit that procedure as much as possible.
You do what you can.
--Geno
> > Cats, unlike humans aren't conditioned to our "higher" interpretations of > > "dirty" or "clean". [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > > > influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF." > > > > Joss Whedon RichC - 07 Aug 2004 03:37 GMT > My outside (feral) guys will drink from rain puddles rather than the fresh > stuff I put in their sheltered water bowls. It is a hazard for them because [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > --Geno As long as you brought up fire ants....We just moved to Florida & our cat goes out on the grass occasionally (he doesn't seem to like it as much as the grass up north) but do the fire ants sting your cat? I haven't see any yet but I'm sure there around.
Gene Royer - 07 Aug 2004 14:22 GMT > > My outside (feral) guys will drink from rain puddles rather than the fresh > > stuff I put in their sheltered water bowls. It is a hazard for them [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > the grass up north) but do the fire ants sting your cat? I haven't see any > yet but I'm sure there around. Fire ants are a hazard for both man and beast. I put out Diazanon? regularly to control their foraging; but as I pointed out, the runoff is not good for the cats when they sip from puddles. I have an automatic device that fills their drinking bowls continuously with fresh water, but they are uncivil little creatures. I do the best I can.
BTW, fireants will invade your house unless you take offensive measures.
--Geno
RichC - 08 Aug 2004 16:58 GMT > BTW, fireants will invade your house unless you take offensive measures. > > --Geno I was told the fire ants don't come indoors. We're having insect tubes run inside the exterior walls. I hope that will stop them.
Gene Royer - 08 Aug 2004 18:26 GMT > > BTW, fireants will invade your house unless you take offensive measures. > > > > --Geno > > > I was told the fire ants don't come indoors. We're having insect tubes run > inside the exterior walls. I hope that will stop them. Fireants do not know it is a house and they are not supposed to come in. Best way to keep them out is to put fireant granules (Diazon or similar) around the foundations regularly.
--Geno
rpl - 08 Aug 2004 23:08 GMT > We're having insect tubes eh?
> run > inside the exterior walls. I hope that will stop them. pat
RichC - 09 Aug 2004 03:54 GMT When you're having a new house built, you can have a small tube (about 3/16" in Dia) run through the studs or furring strips on all the outside walls that connect to a box located on the outside wall. The tube actually has small holes in so when the system is pressurized it injects a clod of insecticide only in the walls. This supposedly blocks all the bugs. We'll see.
> > We're having insect tubes > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > pat rpl - 10 Aug 2004 00:48 GMT > When you're having a new house built, you can have a small tube (about 3/16" > in Dia) run through the studs or furring strips on all the outside walls > that connect to a box located on the outside wall. The tube actually has > small holes in so when the system is pressurized it injects a clod of > insecticide only in the walls. This supposedly blocks all the bugs. We'll > see. neat (wouldn't work here I don't think... place is frozen half the year)
pat
RichC - 10 Aug 2004 12:01 GMT I doubt if you have the insect problems that Florida has other than a few ants in the summer.
> > When you're having a new house built, you can have a small tube (about 3/16" > > in Dia) run through the studs or furring strips on all the outside walls [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > pat rpl - 10 Aug 2004 16:28 GMT > I doubt if you have the insect problems that Florida has other than a few > ants in the summer. mosquitoes and blackflies can make life in some areas a living hell, seasonally. Of course the time of year when all the insects are hiding is the time of year you're bundled up so much they couldn't get at you anyways.
pat
Sherry - 31 Jul 2004 21:04 GMT >Cats, unlike humans aren't conditioned to our "higher" interpretations of >"dirty" or "clean". > >They work on instinct, and taste. If it's fun, satisfying, and/or tastes >good, a cat'll do it!~) Yeah, but mine insists on drinking out of the birdbath. I guess the water is bird-flavored. I clean it about every other day but still, I hate her drinking out of it.
Sherry
Fat Freddy - 01 Aug 2004 03:25 GMT One of our cats is a toilet drinker also. My biggest fear is that she will fall in and drown.
She also likes to drink out of the spa. Every evening before bed we soak in the hot water for a few minutes and Fluffy always jumps up and drinks the water. We try to discourage this as the bromine and other chemicals in the water can't be good for her.
AC - 01 Aug 2004 22:36 GMT Hehe, I like that.
If I was a cat, I'm sure I'd prefer bird-flavoured water!
> >Cats, unlike humans aren't conditioned to our "higher" interpretations of > >"dirty" or "clean". [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Sherry AC - 31 Jul 2004 01:49 GMT Yes, you should give water... Digesting a high protein-based diet definitely requires extra water. Without it, the cat will be unhealthy/die/worse.
> Should i give my cat water.He has cat meat which is 80% water .If i put > water down > he doesnt seem to bother with it. > > Dave Maggs Jessy 4 Paws - 31 Jul 2004 18:58 GMT What's worse than dying?
> Yes, you should give water... Digesting a high protein-based diet definitely > requires extra water. Without it, the cat will be unhealthy/die/worse. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > Dave Maggs Silver - 04 Aug 2004 13:28 GMT > Yes, you should give water... Digesting a high protein-based diet definitely > requires extra water. Without it, the cat will be unhealthy/die/worse. Sorry, but isn't a cat supposed to have a high-protein diet anyway? They need more protein than dogs after all. A cat does need extra water with dry food, I know that, but most wet foods should have a high water content anyway and regardless of that - water should always be freely available at any rate.
-Silver "I love cats because I enjoy my home; & little by little, they become its visible soul."
- Jean Cocteau 1889-1963.
Iain Scott - 08 Aug 2004 07:55 GMT I usually add water to their 'WHISKAS' cat food in order to ensure they get water. We are going through a very humid summer now in London and we also leave water out. However the cats won't drink from a water bowl but will drink from the drain-off of the large plant pots we have or from the indoor water 'fountain' we got for them.
I tried putting a plastic floating object into the water bowl. I think somebody suggested that idea here but the cats fished it out and played football with it soaking the kitchen floor. No problem and it was fun to watch ...
Iain
>> Yes, you should give water... Digesting a high protein-based diet >definitely [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >- Jean Cocteau 1889-1963. RichC - 08 Aug 2004 17:01 GMT Our cat is puzzled by an ice cube in his water bowl. He stands there just looking at it.
> I tried putting a plastic floating object into the water bowl. I think > somebody suggested that idea here but the cats fished it out and > played football with it soaking the kitchen floor. No problem and it > was fun to watch ... > > Iain Gene Royer - 08 Aug 2004 18:29 GMT > Our cat is puzzled by an ice cube in his water bowl. He stands there just > looking at it. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > > Iain Explain to him that when water freezes, its mass remains the same but its volume is increased. That makes it lighter by volume than the liquid that supports it.
This will satisfy his curiosity and make him relax. He will be a better cat for it.
I know it helped mine.
--Geno
RichC - 09 Aug 2004 03:56 GMT > Explain to him that when water freezes, its mass remains the same but its > volume is increased. That makes it lighter by volume than the liquid that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > --Geno I tried that but he's got "ADD".
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