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Traveling via Car With Cat 2K Miles

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?Old Sarge?? - 01 Jul 2004 21:49 GMT
I'm new here and this question probably came up in the past.  However, I
would like some advice.  We are leaving via car from Seattle to Kansas City
in three weeks.  It will be hot along the route (I-90) and down via Sioux
City.  We will also have our small dog with us.  I know our dog travels well
in the car but I'm worried about the cat.  He is 13 years old and has slowed
down quite a bit now.  He has long fur that he sheds during the summer and
regrows during the fall.

We have two pet carriers and will be staying in Holiday Inns along the route
as they do accept pets for a few dollars more.  We plan to have his litter
box in the back of my truck, plenty of water handy, and of course food.  Our
vet is going to give us some tranquilizers to keep him in space.  We have
just recently put one of our dog's halter collars on him to see how he takes
to it.  Apparently he doesn't know it's there. We decided against a regular
collar due to the choking hazard and the fact that we plan to have him on a
leash when outside the car in rest stops.

Any suggestions to make this trip a pleasant with with him would be
appreciated.  If I'm in the wrong newsgroup for this type of advice, please
let me know and point me in the right direction.  Also any helpful websites
would be appreciated.

I wanted to ship him via air so he would be there when we arrive but
according to my wife's friends, they advise against it due to his age and
the trauma it may cause to him mentally.  This trip will take a minimum of
three days since we will be pulling U-haul trailers with two cars (a car and
a truck).

This home is the only home he has ever known.  We plan to keep him inside
for at least two weeks at our new home in Kansas until he knows it's his new
home.  He never strays too far away from home.  We would be devastated if we
lost him enroute.  The email address attached to this posting is also a good
one.  I would appreciate an email response as well as a reply here if you
think others may benefit by your advice.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions you have.  Our pets are our children,
spoiled like hell.
ParrotRob - 02 Jul 2004 02:33 GMT
> I'm new here and this question probably came up in the past.  However, I
> would like some advice.  We are leaving via car from Seattle to Kansas City
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> Thanks in advance for any suggestions you have.  Our pets are our children,
> spoiled like hell.

Drive down in one car, no trailer.  One of you stay in KC, the other one fly
back to Seattle to get the other car, which you tow back to KC behind a
large U-Haul truck with a tow bar, instead of the other way around.  The
trip can be done in a day and a half (less, maybe 24-25 hours if you switch
drivers) and kitty only needs to be sedated for one day not three.
?Old Sarge?? - 02 Jul 2004 02:43 GMT
>> I'm new here and this question probably came up in the past.  However, I
>> would like some advice.  We are leaving via car from Seattle to Kansas
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> switch
> drivers) and kitty only needs to be sedated for one day not three.

There is a cost factor involved here as well.  My step son is flying out
from Kansas City to drive the other car and trailer.  I personally would
love to ship him but there isn't anyone on the other end to receive him
and/or keep him for four days until we get there.  He is a funny cat.  He
only lets myself or my wife approach him and we can't do that outside.  If
we have company, he will disappear outside until they are gone.  It will
stress him out just as much by having him stay with someone he doesn't know.
I suggested to my wife that we could have someone here ship him and I even
asked our vet if he would it but he said they don't do it because of the
liability involved.  And I cannot think of anyone else that would keep him
for four days here and then ship him.  Therefore I think he will be better
off with us.  When we are spending the night in a hotel/motel, he will be
just fine.  It's the road and rest stops I'm concerned about.

Thanks for your suggestion though.
Hope Munro Smith - 02 Jul 2004 17:12 GMT
> >> I'm new here and this question probably came up in the past.  However, I
> >> would like some advice.  We are leaving via car from Seattle to Kansas
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>
> Thanks for your suggestion though.

My husband and I have made these long relocations with cats before.
All our cats have pretty much stayed in their carriers and slept the
whole way without sedation.  I would try to have the cat in the front
with you if you can.  Cover the window of the carrier with a light cloth
because what tends to make cats frightened is seeing the scenery rush by.
MaryL - 02 Jul 2004 03:45 GMT
> I'm new here and this question probably came up in the past.  However, I
> would like some advice.  We are leaving via car from Seattle to Kansas City
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> Thanks in advance for any suggestions you have.  Our pets are our children,
> spoiled like hell.

I have traveled with several different cats (one at a time) for distances
that required several overnights at motels.  I never had any trouble, and I
never sedated my cats.  I would suggest that you take a few short trips
around your home to test out the situation.  You may find that you also will
not need to sedate your cat, and it would be much better if you can avoid
it.  You could pick up a few pills from your vet to keep on hand "just in
case" they were needed.

You mentioned that you will have the cat on a harness outside the car.  If
at all possible, avoid that!  Place the cat in a carrier anytime you
transport the cat outside the car.  My cats traveled very well, and I kept
them on a harness inside the car -- the would simply curl up on the seat
beside me, and I would fasten the harness in such a way that they could not
get to my feet.  Many feel that it is really better to keep the cat in a
harness at all times, even when in the car.  Fasten the carrier to the car's
seat belt to protect your cat.

I always kept litter availabe in the car (if you use a carrier as I just
described, you would need to let the cat out at rest stops).  However, it
was a true rarity when a cat would use the litter box in the car or accept
any food or water.  *All* of them would wait until we entered a motel in the
evening, then head immediately for either the litter box or their food.

Be sure to check ahead on motels.  As you said, many Holiday Inns accept
small pets (some with an additional deposit); but some do not.

Be *very* careful to have your pets secured in carriers or on harnesses
*any* time a door or window is opened -- when you fill up for gas, pay
tolls, etc.  Tragedy could strike in an instant if a pet panics and heads
for the nearest exit.  Also, do not leave your pet alone in the car while
you go inside to eat.  Cars cat heat to dangerous levels in a matter of just
a few minutes.  I always bought food at drive-through windows and ate in the
car so I could leave the air conditioner running.  I only left my cats alone
for a quick visit to restrooms.

Good luck!  I actually enjoyed traveling with my cats, and I hope you will
have an equally good experience.

MaryL
(take out the litter to reply)

Photos of Duffy and Holly:      >'o'<
http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly)
http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")
MaryL - 02 Jul 2004 05:41 GMT
> My cats traveled very well, and I kept
> them on a harness inside the car -- the would simply curl up on the seat
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>
> MaryL

This is another one of those occasions when I moved too quickly.  I should
have read my message before posting.  It is full of grammatical mistakes and
misplaced words.  Most important, my statement that "many feel that it is
really better to keep the cat in a harness at all times, even when in the
car" *should* have said that many feel it is better to keep the cat in a
*carrier* at all times.  One reason for this is that the cat would be better
protected in case of an accident.  A cat on a harness can easily be slammed
against a windshield, with lethal results.  Moreover, if a door were opened
during or after an accident, a cat on a harness might easily get outside and
disappear.

MaryL
?Old Sarge?? - 02 Jul 2004 07:40 GMT
>> I'm new here and this question probably came up in the past.  However, I
>> would like some advice.  We are leaving via car from Seattle to Kansas
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> http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly)
> http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")

Thanks Mary. We will try the no sedation thing and see how it works. It's
just that he is so afraid of other people.  He gets along well with my dog
though.  My dog travels very well.  We have a special car seat for her and
she stays in it.  I fasten her harness to the child seat fixture on the back
of the seat to secure her so she doesn't fly forward on a quick stop or get
in our way in front.  As for my cat Sidney, he has always ridden in a
carrier to the vet.  This will be new for him though.  We will keep him in a
carrier in and out of the car, but my wife will probably want to hold him
when we are on the road.  I know about the heat and plan to keep the car
cool and comfortable.  As for stopping for lunch, I'll work on that part.
I've already made reservations at all of our planned stops and yes there is
a $10 charge for pets.  I forsee no problems there.  He will of course whine
all the way there.  We don't plan on feeding him until we stop for the night
anyway.  As for the litter box, we will see about that.  I doubt he will
want to go anyplace else during the day.  Thanks for the input.
Laura R. - 03 Jul 2004 06:00 GMT
circa Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:40:15 -0700, in alt.cats, ?Old Sarge??
(oldsarge@richgreene.com) said,
> Thanks Mary. We will try the no sedation thing and see how it works. It's
> just that he is so afraid of other people.

Sedation often ends up being worse than what it's intended to "fix".
Seriously. I've been there. :-)

Laura
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Laura R. - 03 Jul 2004 05:59 GMT
circa Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:45:46 -0500, in alt.cats, MaryL (carstan101
@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER) said,
> I have traveled with several different cats (one at a time) for distances
> that required several overnights at motels.  I never had any trouble, and I
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> car so I could leave the air conditioner running.  I only left my cats alone
> for a quick visit to restrooms.

Excellent advice; I couldn't snip a word. All of the above seconded.

Laura
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-Oscar Wilde

Rhonda - 02 Jul 2004 07:07 GMT
I agree with Mary about not letting your cat outside enroute, even with
a harness. Cats can be very freaked out when in a new place and bolt
when you least expect it. They can wiggle out of constraints. I would
keep him in the carrier when not in the car or hotel.

We drove 4 days with 2 cats, and we let them lose in the car (windows
only open a crack) I know it was not as safe as keeping them in the
carrier, but we didn't think of that at the time. One cat slept under a
coat, not wanting to know what was happening. The other sat up and
yowled for 4 days. WE wanted a tranquilizer! (We did not tranquilize the
cats.)

Only one would use the litter box, even though it was there.

They were stressed, but we made it. One thing we did is make sure each
had a collar with a phone number on the tag. Since we were between
phones, we put my parents' number on them and told them not to hang up
if they got a call about a cat!

Rhonda

©Old Sarge®° wrote:

> I'm new here and this question probably came up in the past.  However, I
> would like some advice.  We are leaving via car from Seattle to Kansas City
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions you have.  Our pets are our children,
> spoiled like hell.
?Old Sarge?? - 02 Jul 2004 07:45 GMT
>I agree with Mary about not letting your cat outside enroute, even with a
>harness. Cats can be very freaked out when in a new place and bolt when you
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>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions you have.  Our pets are our
>> children, spoiled like hell.

Glad you reminded me of the tags.  My dog already has a tag and both are
microchiped as well.  I plan to stop at Petco tommorow anyway and I'll get a
tag for the cat with our cell numbers on it.  When I was returning in May by
myself, I noticed at a lot of rest stops, a few lost pet signs.  I cannot
think of what it would feel like losing your pet at a rest stop.  We will
take no chances.  The carrier he stays until we stop for the night.
Fortunately in my truck there are air conditioning vents for the back seat
too (4 door truck).  Now my dog will appreciate being able to walk around
smelling at rest stops.  She is the least of our worries.

Thanks for the input.
RichC - 03 Jul 2004 11:59 GMT
> I agree with Mary about not letting your cat outside enroute, even with
> a harness. Cats can be very freaked out when in a new place and bolt
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>
> Rhonda

I included a tag on our cats collar with "reward" written in big print.  I
also wrote our cell phone number on the tag.  It was a very large tag with
large lettering that you could read from a few feet away.  If our cat got
away on our trip, sooner or later he would accept food from a stranger &
hopefully I would get a call.
DL Farnworth - 02 Jul 2004 17:29 GMT
Hi there.

Tiffany, our oldest, has traveled back and forth across
the country.  We always keep her in her carrier in the
car and she seems to prefer it: just snoozes unless a
big rig goes by.  She doesn't eat, doesn't use the cat
box.  And I too have seen those "Lost Pet" ads at rest
stops.

After 5 days, Tif got so used to the routine: ride in
the carrier, get in the motel, food and water in one
corner of the bathroom, cat box in the other, that she
got impatient in Knoxville Tennessee and scratched at
the door knob, eager to get outside and explore her
"new" surroundings.

3 points: We never used sedatives.  After a half-hour
of mewing, she zoned out.

Also, heat can be a problem.  AC a priority because
even with holes those carriers can get hot.  Also kept
ice to bathe the cat's head if she started panting.
Which happened at rush hour in Dallas on the freeway
with no AC.  Also park in the shade if necessary.

Also, cat shouldn't be left alone in motel room out of
the carrier.  Too much chance of housekeeping or
somebody else opening the door and there goes Fluffy.

Good luck.

Dan
Patti S - 06 Jul 2004 20:59 GMT
> I'm new here and this question probably came up in the past.  However, I
> would like some advice.  We are leaving via car from Seattle to Kansas City
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions you have.  Our pets are our children,
> spoiled like hell.

Hi Sarge, I'm new here also and hope I'm posting correct.  I'm sure if not
someone will let me know.  But I've made 2 trips now with my 2 cats from
Alabama to Montana and would do it again if necessary.  I would suggest that
you see if can find a harness for your cat instead of a collar and make sure
you have your leash attached to it at every stop you make even if your not
letting the cats out with you.  This is good because they do like to get out
excercise and that makes a happier pet, therefore a happier owner.
Red Roof Inns accepted our cats for the entire trip with no extra charge.
I never had to sedate the cats on any of the trips.  They would meow for
about 20 minutes, and then all of a sudden just stop and be fine the rest of
way.  Never had to keep them in pet carriers but they are a good idea in
case of a accident but I would think that would make it a tad hot.  On our
last trip the two of them just laid in the seat in the van by the big window
and looked outside.  The van made it alot better than the car, they had more
room to move around.  They didn't eat anything while in the car or van, but
used the litter box occasionally.  But once they were in the motel room at
night , they were starving and ready to eat when we did get in the motel
room and did just fine there.  Gave them time to explore and then pile up on
the bed with us and sleep till we got up.  Good luck on your trip and hope
this helps.  By the way, we took 2.5 days to make a 1805 mile trip.  Could
of made it faster, but figured we would feel better and so would the cats if
we made stops.  Hope this helps

Patti
 
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