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Conan Kelly - 22 Jun 2004 05:46 GMT
Hello all,

I saw something on Petsburgh USA on the Animal Planet about how it is not
good for cats to eat red fish like salmon & tuna.  That it can cause
disease.  Does anyone have any more info on this?  Anyone know if this is
true or false?

Thank you,

Conan Kelly
Laura R. - 22 Jun 2004 06:56 GMT
circa Tue, 22 Jun 2004 04:46:00 GMT, in alt.cats, Conan Kelly
(CTBarbarin@msn.com) said,
> Hello all,
>
> I saw something on Petsburgh USA on the Animal Planet about how it is not
> good for cats to eat red fish like salmon & tuna.  That it can cause
> disease.  Does anyone have any more info on this?  Anyone know if this is
> true or false?

Well, tuna is bad as an exclusive diet because it lacks taurine,
which cats need. Fish-flavored cat food apparently has higher levels
of ash and magnesium, thus contributing to the risk of urinary tract
blockages. But as for why *red* fish is bad, I'm not sure.

Laura
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buzzbot@neosprint.net - 22 Jun 2004 07:24 GMT
I believe that I read if you feel the need to give your cat canned
fish that RED salmon is much better than tuna.

For what it is worth, this is something I read not to long ago.

>circa Tue, 22 Jun 2004 04:46:00 GMT, in alt.cats, Conan Kelly
>(CTBarbarin@msn.com) said,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Laura
Jumi & Shirley Butler - 22 Jun 2004 14:22 GMT
I saw the exact same program last nite. Their reason was the ash and
magnesium. I am going to ask my vet, not that my cat will even TOUCH
fish flavors. Not even the treats!  Shirl

~circa Tue, 22 Jun 2004 04:46:00 GMT, in alt.cats, Conan Kelly
~(CTBarbarin@msn.com) said,
~> Hello all,
~>
~> I saw something on Petsburgh USA on the Animal Planet about how it
is not
~> good for cats to eat red fish like salmon & tuna.  That it can
cause
~> disease.  Does anyone have any more info on this?  Anyone know if
this is
~> true or false?
~>
~Well, tuna is bad as an exclusive diet because it lacks taurine,
~which cats need. Fish-flavored cat food apparently has higher levels
~of ash and magnesium, thus contributing to the risk of urinary tract
~blockages. But as for why *red* fish is bad, I'm not sure.
~
~Laura

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Karen Chuplis - 23 Jun 2004 02:57 GMT
> circa Tue, 22 Jun 2004 04:46:00 GMT, in alt.cats, Conan Kelly
> (CTBarbarin@msn.com) said,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Laura

It also causes a disease from lack of vitamin E, I believe. For male cats,
fish has too many minerals and can contribute to urinary problems.
Laura R. - 23 Jun 2004 03:48 GMT
circa Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:57:55 -0500, in alt.cats, Karen Chuplis
(kchuplis@alltel.net) said,
> > Well, tuna is bad as an exclusive diet because it lacks taurine,
> > which cats need. Fish-flavored cat food apparently has higher levels
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> It also causes a disease from lack of vitamin E, I believe. For male cats,
> fish has too many minerals and can contribute to urinary problems.

Ah, yes, yellow fat disease.

Laura
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Luvskats00 - 23 Jun 2004 09:19 GMT
Karen Chuplis kchuplis@alltel.net writes

>It also causes a disease from lack >of vitamin E, I believe. For male cats,
>fish has too many minerals and >can contribute to urinary problems.

Are you talking about tuna fish for human consumption? tuna cat food? a
tuna-mix catfood?  My Sammy eats a lot of Fancy Feast seafood combos.
Whitefish, seafood feast, etc.  He wouldn't eat anything else...no other brands
and no other flavors. I finally was able to sneak in some Fancy Feast beef once
a week.
-L. : - 23 Jun 2004 07:54 GMT
> Hello all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Conan Kelly

A little tuna is ok - it is especially effective for giving
conmpounded meds if your cats like tuna.  Otherwise, avoid it when you
can.

-L.
Amber - 27 Jun 2004 18:52 GMT
> > Hello all,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> -L.

YIKES!

I would not get rid of tuna or salmon from my kitties diet.  I have
saved dying cats that won't eat by feeding tuna.  The omega 3s in
these foods are really good for cats esepecially cats with skin
allergies.  But maybe the diet that is exclusive canned tuna or canned
salmon is not advised.

Amber
Laura R. - 27 Jun 2004 19:56 GMT
circa 27 Jun 2004 10:52:32 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Amber (amberkittylover@yahoo.com) said,
> YIKES!
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> allergies.  But maybe the diet that is exclusive canned tuna or canned
> salmon is not advised.

Actually, a diet consisting exclusively of canned tuna or salmon is
*definitely* inadvisable- no "maybe" about it. In fact, such a diet
is eventually fatal. Google for "yellow fat disease" for starters on
why feeding a cat an exclusive diet of canned tuna/salmon is a very,
very bad thing to do.

Nobody said that there was anything wrong with using it as an
occasional temptation for inappetant cats.

Omega3 fatty acids are available from other sources than *human*
food. Cat food, for example.

Laura
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Gene Royer - 27 Jun 2004 21:37 GMT
> circa 27 Jun 2004 10:52:32 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> Amber (amberkittylover@yahoo.com) said,
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Laura

I occasionally give my cats tuna that is processed for human consumption,
but only for a break in the boredom of regular cat food.  Tuna for human
consumption is normally very high in magnesium--as are many brands of tuna
that is packed for cats.  --So I steer away from it in all forms as a
regular diet.

But they love it as a treat, and the juice that comes from the canned fish
(either oil or water) makes an occasional nice flavoring for the picky
eater.

--Geno
Mary - 28 Jun 2004 00:30 GMT
"Amber" <amberkittylover@yahoo.com> wrote >
> YIKES!
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Amber

Amber-- tuna has no taurine, which cats must have or risk going blind.
Gene Royer - 28 Jun 2004 00:43 GMT
> "Amber" <amberkittylover@yahoo.com> wrote >
> > YIKES!
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Amber-- tuna has no taurine, which cats must have or risk going blind.

Good point...and other maladies as well.

--Geno
Paulette - 29 Jun 2004 01:13 GMT
check out
www.maxshouse.com/tuna_and_cats_
nutritonal_facts.htm
whayface - 23 Jun 2004 14:51 GMT
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 04:46:00 GMT, in alt.cats you wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I saw something on Petsburgh USA on the Animal Planet about how it is not
>good for cats to eat red fish like salmon & tuna.  That it can cause
>disease.  Does anyone have any more info on this?  Anyone know if this is
>true or false?

Got the following from some website I visited but can not remember
where.

What They Are Not Telling Us About Cat Food
(Or What's the FUS About Ash?)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That tiny print in the fold of a bag of cat food is supposed to tell
us everything we need to know about whether the contents will keep our
beloved tabby in the pink, or corrode his kidneys. Yet most brands
obscure the information we need by providing too much information, and
leaving out what we are really looking for.
The other day I read about a dozen bags in the grocery store. Only one
mentioned ash content (it was much too high), and the one that claimed
to be good for a cat's urinary tract couldn't explain why it actually
is (if it is). If you have ever dealt with a cat's failing kidneys you
know that you want to do whatever you can from the first day you bring
that cute kitten into your home to keep those innards healthy, and all
the plumbing working.

So why can't they just have a urinary tract rating. A 1 would be best
for cats, especially male cats who are prone to developing urinary
problems. A 10 would be really really bad for them (but they like it
the best, kind of like Doritos).

The Real Deal:
Most cats don't even get FUS/FLUTD (feline urologic syndrome/feline
lower urinary tract disease), but why not be safe now and not sorry
later? Get good quality cat foods for life and you are likely to have
a healthy cat.

A good low-ash cat food should not contain more than 6% ash (based on
100% dry weight). Magnesium in a low-ash cat food should be no more
than 0.1% and no less than .05%. Try to avoid by-products. Get real
chicken, beef, lamb etc. Some say fish is suspect relative to
FUS/FLUTD.

If the bag doesn't tell the ash or magnesium content or other
information you are looking for, call the company or get another
brand.

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