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Cats eating fish (tuna)
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Conan Kelly - 22 Jun 2004 05:46 GMT Hello all,
I saw something on Petsburgh USA on the Animal Planet about how it is not good for cats to eat red fish like salmon & tuna. That it can cause disease. Does anyone have any more info on this? Anyone know if this is true or false?
Thank you,
Conan Kelly
Laura R. - 22 Jun 2004 06:56 GMT circa Tue, 22 Jun 2004 04:46:00 GMT, in alt.cats, Conan Kelly (CTBarbarin@msn.com) said,
> Hello all, > > I saw something on Petsburgh USA on the Animal Planet about how it is not > good for cats to eat red fish like salmon & tuna. That it can cause > disease. Does anyone have any more info on this? Anyone know if this is > true or false? Well, tuna is bad as an exclusive diet because it lacks taurine, which cats need. Fish-flavored cat food apparently has higher levels of ash and magnesium, thus contributing to the risk of urinary tract blockages. But as for why *red* fish is bad, I'm not sure.
Laura
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buzzbot@neosprint.net - 22 Jun 2004 07:24 GMT I believe that I read if you feel the need to give your cat canned fish that RED salmon is much better than tuna.
For what it is worth, this is something I read not to long ago.
>circa Tue, 22 Jun 2004 04:46:00 GMT, in alt.cats, Conan Kelly >(CTBarbarin@msn.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Laura Jumi & Shirley Butler - 22 Jun 2004 14:22 GMT I saw the exact same program last nite. Their reason was the ash and magnesium. I am going to ask my vet, not that my cat will even TOUCH fish flavors. Not even the treats! Shirl
~circa Tue, 22 Jun 2004 04:46:00 GMT, in alt.cats, Conan Kelly ~(CTBarbarin@msn.com) said, ~> Hello all, ~> ~> I saw something on Petsburgh USA on the Animal Planet about how it is not ~> good for cats to eat red fish like salmon & tuna. That it can cause ~> disease. Does anyone have any more info on this? Anyone know if this is ~> true or false? ~> ~Well, tuna is bad as an exclusive diet because it lacks taurine, ~which cats need. Fish-flavored cat food apparently has higher levels ~of ash and magnesium, thus contributing to the risk of urinary tract ~blockages. But as for why *red* fish is bad, I'm not sure. ~ ~Laura
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Karen Chuplis - 23 Jun 2004 02:57 GMT > circa Tue, 22 Jun 2004 04:46:00 GMT, in alt.cats, Conan Kelly > (CTBarbarin@msn.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Laura It also causes a disease from lack of vitamin E, I believe. For male cats, fish has too many minerals and can contribute to urinary problems.
Laura R. - 23 Jun 2004 03:48 GMT circa Tue, 22 Jun 2004 20:57:55 -0500, in alt.cats, Karen Chuplis (kchuplis@alltel.net) said,
> > Well, tuna is bad as an exclusive diet because it lacks taurine, > > which cats need. Fish-flavored cat food apparently has higher levels [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It also causes a disease from lack of vitamin E, I believe. For male cats, > fish has too many minerals and can contribute to urinary problems. Ah, yes, yellow fat disease.
Laura
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Luvskats00 - 23 Jun 2004 09:19 GMT Karen Chuplis kchuplis@alltel.net writes
>It also causes a disease from lack >of vitamin E, I believe. For male cats, >fish has too many minerals and >can contribute to urinary problems. Are you talking about tuna fish for human consumption? tuna cat food? a tuna-mix catfood? My Sammy eats a lot of Fancy Feast seafood combos. Whitefish, seafood feast, etc. He wouldn't eat anything else...no other brands and no other flavors. I finally was able to sneak in some Fancy Feast beef once a week.
-L. : - 23 Jun 2004 07:54 GMT > Hello all, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Conan Kelly A little tuna is ok - it is especially effective for giving conmpounded meds if your cats like tuna. Otherwise, avoid it when you can.
-L.
Amber - 27 Jun 2004 18:52 GMT > > Hello all, > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -L. YIKES!
I would not get rid of tuna or salmon from my kitties diet. I have saved dying cats that won't eat by feeding tuna. The omega 3s in these foods are really good for cats esepecially cats with skin allergies. But maybe the diet that is exclusive canned tuna or canned salmon is not advised.
Amber
Laura R. - 27 Jun 2004 19:56 GMT circa 27 Jun 2004 10:52:32 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Amber (amberkittylover@yahoo.com) said,
> YIKES! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > allergies. But maybe the diet that is exclusive canned tuna or canned > salmon is not advised. Actually, a diet consisting exclusively of canned tuna or salmon is *definitely* inadvisable- no "maybe" about it. In fact, such a diet is eventually fatal. Google for "yellow fat disease" for starters on why feeding a cat an exclusive diet of canned tuna/salmon is a very, very bad thing to do.
Nobody said that there was anything wrong with using it as an occasional temptation for inappetant cats.
Omega3 fatty acids are available from other sources than *human* food. Cat food, for example.
Laura
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Gene Royer - 27 Jun 2004 21:37 GMT > circa 27 Jun 2004 10:52:32 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > Amber (amberkittylover@yahoo.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Laura I occasionally give my cats tuna that is processed for human consumption, but only for a break in the boredom of regular cat food. Tuna for human consumption is normally very high in magnesium--as are many brands of tuna that is packed for cats. --So I steer away from it in all forms as a regular diet.
But they love it as a treat, and the juice that comes from the canned fish (either oil or water) makes an occasional nice flavoring for the picky eater.
--Geno
Mary - 28 Jun 2004 00:30 GMT "Amber" <amberkittylover@yahoo.com> wrote >
> YIKES! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Amber Amber-- tuna has no taurine, which cats must have or risk going blind.
Gene Royer - 28 Jun 2004 00:43 GMT > "Amber" <amberkittylover@yahoo.com> wrote > > > YIKES! [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Amber-- tuna has no taurine, which cats must have or risk going blind. Good point...and other maladies as well.
--Geno
Paulette - 29 Jun 2004 01:13 GMT check out www.maxshouse.com/tuna_and_cats_ nutritonal_facts.htm
whayface - 23 Jun 2004 14:51 GMT On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 04:46:00 GMT, in alt.cats you wrote:
>Hello all, > >I saw something on Petsburgh USA on the Animal Planet about how it is not >good for cats to eat red fish like salmon & tuna. That it can cause >disease. Does anyone have any more info on this? Anyone know if this is >true or false? Got the following from some website I visited but can not remember where.
What They Are Not Telling Us About Cat Food (Or What's the FUS About Ash?) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That tiny print in the fold of a bag of cat food is supposed to tell us everything we need to know about whether the contents will keep our beloved tabby in the pink, or corrode his kidneys. Yet most brands obscure the information we need by providing too much information, and leaving out what we are really looking for. The other day I read about a dozen bags in the grocery store. Only one mentioned ash content (it was much too high), and the one that claimed to be good for a cat's urinary tract couldn't explain why it actually is (if it is). If you have ever dealt with a cat's failing kidneys you know that you want to do whatever you can from the first day you bring that cute kitten into your home to keep those innards healthy, and all the plumbing working.
So why can't they just have a urinary tract rating. A 1 would be best for cats, especially male cats who are prone to developing urinary problems. A 10 would be really really bad for them (but they like it the best, kind of like Doritos).
The Real Deal: Most cats don't even get FUS/FLUTD (feline urologic syndrome/feline lower urinary tract disease), but why not be safe now and not sorry later? Get good quality cat foods for life and you are likely to have a healthy cat.
A good low-ash cat food should not contain more than 6% ash (based on 100% dry weight). Magnesium in a low-ash cat food should be no more than 0.1% and no less than .05%. Try to avoid by-products. Get real chicken, beef, lamb etc. Some say fish is suspect relative to FUS/FLUTD.
If the bag doesn't tell the ash or magnesium content or other information you are looking for, call the company or get another brand.
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