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Hartz Kills... *Again*
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zuzu22@webtv.net - 11 Jun 2004 06:46 GMT From: http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/family/3384622/detail.html
Cat Dies After Getting Over-The-Counter Flea Treatment Vets Warn Some Animals Can Have Adverse Reactions
WELLSVILLE, Kan. -- A family's beloved cat died this week, shortly after receiving an over-the-counter flea treatment made by Hartz, KMBC's Krista Klaus reported. According to local veterinarians, the treatment can cause reactions in pets, ranging from seizures to death in rare instances.
Kelly Sturdevant and her kids buried their Siamese cat, Mariah (pictured, left), in their back yard in Wellsville, Kan. Sturdevant said Mariah died a few weeks after she was treated with Hartz Advanced Care flea and tick drops for the first time.
"She stopped eating and she was throwing up," Sturdevant said. "I kind of feel like it was my fault. If I didn't put it on her, she'd still be here."
Mariah's owners took her to a veterinarian, and the cat was put on an intravenous drip for four days, but her liver gave out, Klaus reported.
The vet said Sturdevant wasn't alone. "He'd had several reports of cats coming in who had that stuff applied to them," Sturdevant said.
Vets at a specialty clinic in Overland Park said they see at least one or two cases of toxic reactions to similar products every month. That's why Dr. Jean Greek advises her clinets to stick with prescription flea treatments.
"Over-the-counter products have a much less safe track record than prescription products do," Greek said. Greek added that the makers of over-the-counter flea treatments will reimburse pet owners for vet expenses in the case of an adverse reaction. In Sturdevant's case, that amounts to about $300, Klaus reported.
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KellyH - 11 Jun 2004 10:03 GMT > From: http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/family/3384622/detail.html > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > receiving an over-the-counter flea treatment made by Hartz, KMBC's > Krista Klaus reported. <snip>
> The vet said Sturdevant wasn't alone. > "He'd had several reports of cats coming in who had that stuff applied [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > reaction. In Sturdevant's case, that amounts to about $300, Klaus > reported. I don't understand how these OTC flea treatments can still be out there when *one* vet practice is seeing adverse reactions one or two times a month. If most vet practices see reactions at the same rate, that's cause to pull the stuff off the market in my book. I'm sure the family is comforted to know they'll be getting $300 from Hartz. <sarcasam> It's really sad, well-meaning pet owners think they are doing the right thing by treating their cat, and it can kill them. Are dogs having the same bad reactions, just curious.
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whayface - 11 Jun 2004 14:34 GMT >I don't understand how these OTC flea treatments (Hartz) can still be out there when >*one* vet practice is seeing adverse reactions one or two times a month. If [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >their cat, and it can kill them. Are dogs having the same bad reactions, >just curious. As long as people try to cut corners on their "Beloved" companions and put money above their health and buy these products they will sells them!!!
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~*Connie*~ - 11 Jun 2004 22:30 GMT Are dogs having the same bad reactions,
> just curious. No. they aren't. Not to say they couldn't, but on the whole, the cat one is much more toxic than the dog one.
MaryL - 11 Jun 2004 15:09 GMT > From: http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/family/3384622/detail.html > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > reaction. In Sturdevant's case, that amounts to about $300, Klaus > reported. And just *how* do they reimburse pet owners for the devastating emotional loss of their beloved pets??? <...she says, reeking sarcasm> Unfortunately, most courts still look at our pets only as "property." It seems that the only way to get this junk off the market would be for courts to award amounts large enough to make the manufacturing of Hartz products unprofitable. Since that is unlikely, it is important for us to *stop buying* ANY Hartz products.
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Laura R. - 11 Jun 2004 21:48 GMT circa Fri, 11 Jun 2004 09:09:47 -0500, in alt.cats, MaryL (carstan101 @yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER) said,
> And just *how* do they reimburse pet owners for the devastating emotional > loss of their beloved pets??? <...she says, reeking sarcasm> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > MaryL Unfortunately, most people just don't know about the danger. I think every veterinarian, shelter, groomer, breeder and pet store should display warnings about Hartz, personally. If the woman in the story had been told about the dangers when she bought the product, I highly doubt she would have put it on her cat. If the law isn't going to require that these products be adequately labeled (or better still, pulled off the market), then I think pet stores, etc., should take it upon themselves to warn people of the dangers. And it would be a heckuva lot more effective than the occasional news story about a cat that was killed by these products.
Laura
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~*Connie*~ - 11 Jun 2004 22:32 GMT Actually, most places around here for a long time had a very small hand out near the hartz that warned that cats can have reactions. Although honestly, I haven't see it in a while.
I am appalled that not only does hartz continue to sell it, but no one has required they stop! I mean come on.. where's PETA (said with only a smidge of sarcasm)
> Unfortunately, most people just don't know about the danger. I think > every veterinarian, shelter, groomer, breeder and pet store should [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Experience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. > -Oscar Wilde Laura R. - 11 Jun 2004 23:28 GMT circa Fri, 11 Jun 2004 17:32:09 -0400, in alt.cats, ~*Connie*~ (no@spam.com) said,
> Actually, most places around here for a long time had a very small hand out > near the hartz that warned that cats can have reactions. Although honestly, > I haven't see it in a while. Probably because Hartz *supposedly* cleaned up their act.
> I am appalled that not only does hartz continue to sell it, but no one has > required they stop! I mean come on.. where's PETA (said with only a smidge > of sarcasm) Agreed.
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JoJo - 12 Jun 2004 01:52 GMT I mean come on.. where's PETA (said with only a smidge
> of sarcasm) *snip*
PETA is too busy doing important things such as asking Pam Anderson to talk to KFC about their chickens being too top heavy (I guess Pam would know about being top heavy). Or promoting college kids to drink beer instead of milk. I think they had an important campaign underway here in PA - some city had the name of a meat - like hamburg or something - they petitioned the mayor to change the name. I've got to wonder if Hartz support PETA, which is why they've never been subject to PETA's scrutiny.
Sharon Talbert - 11 Jun 2004 23:34 GMT What happened to the class action lawsuit against Hartz? Or perhaps that was just wishful thinking on my part.
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Al - 14 Jun 2004 21:36 GMT A couple of years ago, I used over the counter flea control on my cat. She had such a horrible reaction, she was rushed to the vet had to be put on intravenous and sedatives. The vet had said no wonder she's here, you poisoned her. I felt awful of course. She was running from room to room, twitching , and just miserable. I looked on the packaging later and realized that it was for dogs only.!!! (I bought it for my dog) My stupid, stupid mistake. I'm fortunate to have my cat with me today, but it could have been fatal. I now buy her ADVANTAGE (for cats) from the vet. No worries and no bad reactions. After this happened I did some research on these products, I heard stories of animals dying, being ill. I tell anyone who will listen to me to be sure to buy any flea control from a vet. My animals are worth it, and I will not cut corners ever again. Thankful to have my beloved pet with me today.
> From: http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/family/3384622/detail.html > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > - W.H. Murray JoJo - 15 Jun 2004 01:03 GMT You can use Advantage for dogs on cats as well - same formulation, just different dosages. Advantage is GREAT. And if you are only treating one or two cats, no need for you to buy the ones for dogs (I've read you can buy large tube for dogs and will treat multiple cats).
I would NEVER suggest using Hartz or Sargents on pets, awful stuff! You were lucky!
> A couple of years ago, I used over the counter flea control on my cat. She > had such a horrible reaction, she was rushed to the vet had to be put on [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > > > - W.H. Murray Electric Nachos - 24 Jun 2004 09:30 GMT All of this could be avoided by dousing the furry f.cker in a bucket of Dawn dishwashing liquid and water. It kills fleas - and vigorously drying with a terry cloth towel brushes the blood suckers right off!!
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From: http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/family/3384622/detail.html
Cat Dies After Getting Over-The-Counter Flea Treatment Vets Warn Some Animals Can Have Adverse Reactions
WELLSVILLE, Kan. -- A family's beloved cat died this week, shortly after receiving an over-the-counter flea treatment made by Hartz, KMBC's Krista Klaus reported. According to local veterinarians, the treatment can cause reactions in pets, ranging from seizures to death in rare instances.
Kelly Sturdevant and her kids buried their Siamese cat, Mariah (pictured, left), in their back yard in Wellsville, Kan. Sturdevant said Mariah died a few weeks after she was treated with Hartz Advanced Care flea and tick drops for the first time.
"She stopped eating and she was throwing up," Sturdevant said. "I kind of feel like it was my fault. If I didn't put it on her, she'd still be here."
Mariah's owners took her to a veterinarian, and the cat was put on an intravenous drip for four days, but her liver gave out, Klaus reported.
The vet said Sturdevant wasn't alone. "He'd had several reports of cats coming in who had that stuff applied to them," Sturdevant said.
Vets at a specialty clinic in Overland Park said they see at least one or two cases of toxic reactions to similar products every month. That's why Dr. Jean Greek advises her clinets to stick with prescription flea treatments.
"Over-the-counter products have a much less safe track record than prescription products do," Greek said. Greek added that the makers of over-the-counter flea treatments will reimburse pet owners for vet expenses in the case of an adverse reaction. In Sturdevant's case, that amounts to about $300, Klaus reported.
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"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way."
- W.H. Murray
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