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Cat Forum / General Topics / June 2004Rabies Vaccine Mandatory in NJ?
I just read somewhere that a rabies vaccine is mandatory in new jersey for a cat.. is this true EVEN if the cat is always indoors only? i dont want to give my cat a rabies vaccine...he doesnt need this crap.. These laws are really startin to pizz me off.. Mike >I just read somewhere that a rabies vaccine is mandatory in new jersey for a >cat.. is this true EVEN if the cat is always indoors only? i dont want to >give my cat a rabies vaccine...he doesnt need this crap.. These laws are >really startin to pizz me off.. > >Mike Many states require rabies certification for pets. New Jersey is probably one of them, since one of the most recent human deaths was in New Jersey. Interestingly enough, the man contracted rabies when bats *entered his home*. As long as your cat is healthy, the rabies vaccine shouldn't hurt him. It's entirely up to you, though...the rabies police isn't going to make you get the vaccination. But be aware that you probably can't ever board him without a vaccination. Sherry circa Sun, 6 Jun 2004 17:07:55 -0400, in alt.cats, mike (mike111111_ 2001nofrigginspam@yahoo.com) said, > I just read somewhere that a rabies vaccine is mandatory in new jersey for a > cat.. is this true EVEN if the cat is always indoors only? i dont want to > give my cat a rabies vaccine...he doesnt need this crap.. These laws are > really startin to pizz me off.. 27 states, plus the District of Columbia, require feline rabies vaccination. Indoor status doesn't exempt a cat, the assumption being that it could someday get out and get infected. It's frustrating, but there's not much you can do about it. Ask your veterinarian to use an adjuvant-free vaccine, and if s/he won't, then find a new vet. Adjuvants are strongly suspected of causing injection-site sarcomas in cats, specifically in the rabies and FeLV vaccines. Laura  SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde > 27 states, plus the District of Columbia, require feline rabies > vaccination. Indoor status doesn't exempt a cat, the assumption being [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Laura Laura, Do you happen to know which 27 states these are? or can you direct me to a link where I can find the info, please? Camilla circa Mon, 07 Jun 2004 09:11:41 +0200, in alt.cats, Camilla Baird (mail@korat.dk) said, > > 27 states, plus the District of Columbia, require feline rabies > > vaccination. Indoor status doesn't exempt a cat, the assumption being [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > a link where I can find the info, please? > Camilla Well, it appears that there are now 29 states that have mandated vaccination for cats. The short and sweet list of states is as follows: States that require vaccination (for Alabama and Hawaii, I found import restrictions but nothing about resident animals): Alaska Arizona Arkansas California Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia Indiana Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Minnesota Mississippi Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire North Carolina Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Vermont Virginia West Virginia The more detailed stuff is here: Alabama- requires proof of rabies vaccination not more than 1 year old for cats (or dogs) being brought into the state. Alaska- Cats (and dogs) are required to be vaccinated ~12 weeks and 1 year, followed by triannual boosters. http://www.epi.hss.state.ak.us/bulletins/docs/b2002_01.htm Arizona- Cats four months of age and older are required to be vaccinated. Frequency (annual or triennial) dictated by vaccine used and age of animal. http://www.ajcity.net/afp/ac/AC_Rabies.cfm Arkansas- annual vaccination required. http://www.healthyarkansas.com/services/rabies_main.htm California- annual vaccination required. http://www.dhs.ca.gov/ohb/HESIS/rabies.htm#Prevention%20and%20Control Colorado- locally mandated requirements. http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/dc/zoonosis/rabies/comp-02.pdf Connecticut- vaccination required; cats 4+ months with 1-year booster, followed by triennial boosters. http://www.cga.state.ct.us/2003/pub/Chap435.htm#Sec22-339b.htm Delaware- cats 6+ months must be vaccinated and owner must maintain valid vaccination certificate. Revaccination frequency determined by vaccine used. http://www.delcode.state.de.us/title3/c082/index.htm Florida- triennial vaccination required http://www.doh.state.fl.us/Disease_ctrl/epi/Rabies_Guidebook/rabies00 Georgia- annual vaccination required http://www.gpc.dhr.georgia.gov/00/article/0,2086,5640847_0_ 11794808,00.html Hawaii- because there is no rabies in Hawaii, requirements to bring animals into the state are complex; quarantine requirements have been reduced (five days) if animals meet specific requirements. No record of required vaccination for resident animals that are not leaving the state. http://www.hawaiiag.org/AQS/aqs-checklist-resident.PDF http://www.hawaii.gov/gov/Members/steveb/News_Item.2003-06-23.3313 Idaho- vaccination recommended. http://www2.state.id.us/dhw/cdp/bulletin/db12-99.htm http://www2.state.id.us/dhw/news/2002/06_21_02_rabidbats.htm Illinois- requirements defined by local governments. For example: http://www.co.lake.il.us/health/pdfs/ehs/art_x.pdf Indiana- annual vaccination required beginning at 3 months of age. http://www.in.gov/boah/companion/rabies/fact_sheet.html Iowa- no vaccination requirements for cats found. http://www.maricopa.gov/pets/pdf/cat_licensing.pdf Kansas- locally mandated requirements. http://www.kdhe.state.ks.us/epi/download/RabiesCompendium2004.pdf Kentucky- vaccination required for cats that are exhibited or sold; annual/triennial requirements depend on age of animal at first vaccination. Cats not required to be vaccinated otherwise, but local governments are permitted to implement requirements. http://www.kyagr.com/state_vet/ah/Sale%20Show%20Regs.htm#Section9 http://tinyurl.com/2pa5y Louisiana- vaccination required. http://www.sbpanimal.homestead.com/RVD.html Maine- vaccination required. http://www.maine.gov/dhs/etl/rabies/rabiesfacts.htm Maryland- vaccination required. Annual/triennial requirement dependent on vaccine and age of animal. http://www.dhmh.state.md.us/publ-rel/dateline/2003/may03/0503tara.htm Massachusetts- vaccination required. Booster frequency determined by vaccine used. http://www.mass.gov/agr/legal/regs/animal_1000%7E1 _rabiesprevention.pdf Michigan- locally mandated requirements. http://www.michiganhumane.org/site/PageServer? pagename=vetcare_felineDesease http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/stusmist287_290.htm Minnesota- vaccination required; frequency of booster determined by type of vaccine. http://server.admin.state.mn.us/resource.html?Id=2867 Mississippi- vaccination required; triennial vaccine and boosters. http://www.msdh.state.ms.us/msdhsite/index.cfm/14,917,142,pdf/Recomme ndationsForVets%2Epdf Missouri- locally mandated requirements. http://muextension.missouri.edu/explore/agguides/pets/g09940.htm Montana- locally mandated requirements http://www.ci.helena.mt.us/text/safety/animal/ Nebraska- vaccination required. http://www.nol.org/legislative/statutes/R/71/44/R7144002.html http://www.nol.org/legislative/statutes/R/71/44/R7144003.html http://www.nol.org/legislative/statutes/R/71/44/R7144001.html Nevada- triennial vaccination required http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Register/1999TempRegister/T058-99A.pdf New Hampshire- vaccination required. Frequency of booster dependent on vaccine (?) http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XL/436/436-100.htm New Jersey- locally mandated requirements. http://www.maricopa.gov/pets/pdf/cat_licensing.pdf http://www.state.nj.us/health/cd/rabies.htm New Mexico- locally mandated requirements. http://www.sandovalcounty.com/Ordinance/AninalControl.html New York- locally mandated requirements. http://www.lovethatcat.com/stny.html North Carolina- vaccination required. http://www.epi.state.nc.us/epi/rabies/ North Dakota- locally mandated requirements. http://www.health.state.nd.us/disease/rabies/rabiescomp2002.pdf Ohio- locally mandated requirements. http://www.odh.state.oh.us/ODHPrograms/ZOODIS/Rabies/Pubs/DWRab/DWRab Pt3.pdf Oklahoma- vaccination not mandated. http://www.health.state.ok.us/program/hpromo/comcol/rabies.pdf Oregon- locally mandated requirements. http://www.vil.oregon.wi.us/Clerk/Pet%20Licensing.htm http://www.hswv.com/adoption.html Pennsylvania- triennial vaccination required after first series. http://tinyurl.com/29van Rhode Island- vaccination required. http://www.state.ri.us/dem/programs/bnatres/fishwild/rabies.htm South Carolina- vaccination required. http://www.scdhec.net/news/releases/2002/nr03clinics02.htm South Dakota- vaccination required; booster frequency determined by vaccine used. http://nsu-cc.northern.edu/aac/rabies.html Tennessee- vaccination required. http://www.state.tn.us/sos/acts/103/pub/pc0765.pdf Texas- vaccination required; may be annual or triennial depending on whether Texas rabies law change has passed. http://texascats.com/region3/legislative/texas_rabies_law_update.htm Utah- locally mandated requirements. http://www.ci.west- valley.ut.us/citycode/West_Valley_City_Municipal_Code/Title_ 23/4/102.html http://www.co.tooele.ut.us/t8c6s2.html Vermont- vaccination required. http://www.vermontagriculture.com/restright.PDF Virginia- vaccination required, boosters according to vaccine used. http://www.co.fairfax.va.us/ps/ac/rabfacts.htm Washington- locally mandated requirements. http://www.mrsc.org/Subjects/PubSafe/animal/AnimalLicense.aspx#Rabies West Virginia- vaccination every two years required. http://www.animalcareassociates.com/dchealth.html Wisconsin- vaccination not required for cats. http://www.wvma.org/news02.asp Wyoming- locally mandated requirements; "rabies districts". http://www.wyadmb.com/Chapter25.PDF Also, the laws are different if you're *traveling* into a state with an animal, as listed here: http://www.oda.state.or.us/ahid/animal_health/cl_dog&catPrint.html Last, the above are all the results of my own research and I can't guarantee complete accuracy, although I tried to be as diligent as possible in researching. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde circa Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:57:29 GMT, in alt.cats, Laura R. (firstinitiallastname@technologist.com) said, > Well, it appears that there are now 29 states that have mandated > vaccination for cats. Oops...28. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde > circa Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:57:29 GMT, in alt.cats, Laura R. > (firstinitiallastname@technologist.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Laura Thanks a lot for that very goos and detailed info! :-) Camilla circa Mon, 07 Jun 2004 23:09:08 +0200, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Camilla Baird (mail@korat.dk) said, > > circa Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:57:29 GMT, in alt.cats, Laura R. > > (firstinitiallastname@technologist.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Thanks a lot for that very goos and detailed info! :-) > Camilla You're most welcome. :-) Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde circa Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:57:29 GMT, in alt.cats, Laura R. (firstinitiallastname@technologist.com) said, > California- annual vaccination required. > http://www.dhs.ca.gov/ohb/HESIS/rabies.htm#Prevention%20and%20Control Crud. Amend this to "locally mandated requirements; state requires rabies control programs." Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde circa Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:47:35 GMT, in alt.cats, Laura R. (firstinitiallastname@technologist.com) said, > (firstinitiallastname@technologist.com) said, > > California- annual vaccination required. > > http://www.dhs.ca.gov/ohb/HESIS/rabies.htm#Prevention%20and%20Control > > > Crud. Amend this to "locally mandated requirements; state requires > rabies control programs." Which, of course, puts us back at 27 states that require vaccination at the state level. I'll run through my list, check it for errors and repost later. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde >circa Mon, 07 Jun 2004 09:11:41 +0200, in alt.cats, Camilla Baird >(mail@korat.dk) said, [quoted text clipped - 213 lines] >whether Texas rabies law change has passed. >http://texascats.com/region3/legislative/texas_rabies_law_update.htm TDH has left it up to local governments on weather to require annual or triennial treatments http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/zoonosis/regs/rabiesvacc/askedquestions.inc >Utah- locally mandated requirements. >http://www.ci.west- [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >Laura circa Mon, 07 Jun 2004 23:13:37 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, hpickering@austin.rr.com (hpickering@austin.rr.com) said, > TDH has left it up to local governments on weather to require annual > or triennial treatments > http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/zoonosis/regs/rabiesvacc/askedquestions.inc It took me forever to find your reply in there. <G> Thanks for the info. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde circa Mon, 07 Jun 2004 09:11:41 +0200, in alt.cats, Camilla Baird (mail@korat.dk) said, > > 27 states, plus the District of Columbia, require feline rabies > > vaccination. Indoor status doesn't exempt a cat, the assumption being [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > a link where I can find the info, please? > Camilla Okay, let me try this again. I found some goofs in my other one. :-) States that require vaccination (27 of them): Alaska Arkansas Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia Indiana Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Minnesota Mississippi Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Mexico North Carolina Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Vermont Virginia West Virginia More detailed information: labama- requires proof of rabies vaccination not more than 1 year old for cats being brought into the state. Could not locate documentation requiring vaccination for resident cats. Alaska- cats are required to be vaccinated at 12+ weeks and 1 year later, followed by triennial boosters. http://www.epi.hss.state.ak.us/bulletins/docs/b2002_01.htm Arizona- vaccination not required. State recommends vaccination. http://www.maricopa.gov/pets/pdf/cat_licensing.pdf http://www.speedwayvet.com/swpage2.htm Arkansas- annual vaccination required. http://www.healthyarkansas.com/services/rabies_main.htm California- locally mandated requirements; state requires rabies control programs. http://www.dhs.ca.gov/ohb/HESIS/rabies.htm#Prevention%20and%20Control Colorado- locally mandated requirements. State recommends vaccination. http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/dc/zoonosis/rabies/comp-02.pdf Connecticut- cats are required to be vaccinated at 12+ weeks and 1 year later, followed by triennial boosters. Cats receiving first vaccination after 1 year of age are required only to have triennial boosters. http://www.cga.state.ct.us/2003/pub/Chap435.htm#Sec22-339b.htm Delaware- cats 6+ months must be vaccinated and owner must maintain valid vaccination certificate. Booster frequency determined by vaccine used. http://www.delcode.state.de.us/title3/c082/index.htm Florida- triennial vaccine required with triennial boosters. http://www.doh.state.fl.us/Disease_ctrl/epi/Rabies_Guidebook/rabies00 Georgia- annual vaccination required http://www.gpc.dhr.georgia.gov/00/article/0,2086,5640847_0_ 11794808,00.html Hawaii- because there is no rabies in Hawaii, requirements to bring animals into the state are complex; quarantine requirements have been reduced (to as little as five days) if animals meet specific requirements. No record of required vaccination for resident animals that are not traveling out-of-state. http://www.hawaiiag.org/AQS/aqs-checklist-resident.PDF http://www.hawaii.gov/gov/Members/steveb/News_Item.2003-06-23.3313 Idaho- no vaccination requirements found; vaccination recommended. http://www2.state.id.us/dhw/cdp/bulletin/db12-99.htm http://www2.state.id.us/dhw/news/2002/06_21_02_rabidbats.htm Illinois- locally mandated requirements, e.g., Lake County requires vaccination. http://www.co.lake.il.us/health/pdfs/ehs/art_x.pdf Indiana- annual vaccination required beginning at 12 weeks. http://www.in.gov/boah/companion/rabies/fact_sheet.html Iowa- locally mandated requirements. http://www.maricopa.gov/pets/pdf/cat_licensing.pdf http://www.cityofmarion.org/faq/pet_info.html Kansas- locally mandated requirements. http://www.kdhe.state.ks.us/epi/download/RabiesCompendium2004.pdf Kentucky- vaccination required for cats that are exhibited or sold; annual/triennial requirements depend on age of animal at first vaccination. Cats not required to be vaccinated if not exhibited or sold, but local governments are permitted to implement requirements. http://www.kyagr.com/state_vet/ah/Sale%20Show%20Regs.htm#Section9 http://tinyurl.com/2pa5y Louisiana- annual vaccination required. http://www.catpractice.com/vaccin.html http://www.sbpanimal.homestead.com/RVD.html Maine- vaccination required. http://www.maine.gov/dhs/etl/rabies/rabiesfacts.htm Maryland- vaccination required. Annual/triennial requirement dependent on vaccine and age of animal. http://www.dhmh.state.md.us/publ-rel/dateline/2003/may03/0503tara.htm Massachusetts- cats are required to be vaccinated by six months of age or within thirty days of acquisition of a cat older than six months of age, with booster 9 months to 1 year later. Subsequent booster frequency determined by vaccine used. http://www.mass.gov/agr/legal/regs/animal_1000%7E1 _rabiesprevention.pdf Michigan- locally mandated requirements. Cities adopting licensing programs must also require rabies vaccination. http://www.michiganhumane.org/site/PageServer? pagename=vetcare_felineDesease http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/stusmist287_290.htm Minnesota- vaccination required; frequency of booster determined by vaccine used. http://server.admin.state.mn.us/resource.html?Id=2867 Mississippi- cats are required to be vaccinated at 12+ weeks and 1 year later, followed by triennial boosters using triennial vaccine. http://www.msdh.state.ms.us/msdhsite/index.cfm/14,917,142,pdf/Recomme ndationsForVets%2Epdf Missouri- locally mandated requirements. http://muextension.missouri.edu/explore/agguides/pets/g09940.htm Montana- animals must have valid rabies certificate if imported into the state, sold in the state or upon change of ownership. http://www.discoveringmontana.com/liv/animalhealth/imports/PETS.asp http://www.discoveringmontana.com/liv/animalhealth/diseases/RABIES.as p Nebraska- vaccination required. http://www.nol.org/legislative/statutes/R/71/44/R7144002.html http://www.nol.org/legislative/statutes/R/71/44/R7144003.html http://www.nol.org/legislative/statutes/R/71/44/R7144001.html Nevada- triennial vaccination required. http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Register/1999TempRegister/T058-99A.pdf New Hampshire- vaccination required. Frequency of booster dependent on vaccine (?) http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XL/436/436-100.htm New Jersey- locally mandated requirements. http://www.maricopa.gov/pets/pdf/cat_licensing.pdf http://www.state.nj.us/health/cd/rabies.htm New Mexico- triennial vaccination required unless overridden by locally mandated requirements. http://www.petroglyphsnm.org/news/fal03news.html New York- locally mandated requirements. http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=nyc_s_2_11_66 http://www.lovethatcat.com/stny.html North Carolina- vaccination required. http://www.epi.state.nc.us/epi/rabies/ North Dakota- locally mandated requirements. State recommends mandating rabies vaccination. http://www.health.state.nd.us/disease/rabies/rabiescomp2002.pdf Ohio- locally mandated requirements. http://www.usaha.org/reports/epiat97.html http://tinyurl.com/26aeb Oklahoma- locally mandated requirements. http://www.health.state.ok.us/program/hpromo/comcol/rabies.pdf http://www.okc.gov/news/2004_01/rabies.html Oregon- locally mandated requirements. http://www.vil.oregon.wi.us/Clerk/Pet%20Licensing.htm http://www.hswv.com/adoption.html Pennsylvania- cats are required to be vaccinated at 12+ weeks and 1 year later, followed by triennial boosters. http://tinyurl.com/29van Rhode Island- vaccination required. http://www.state.ri.us/dem/programs/bnatres/fishwild/rabies.htm South Carolina- vaccination required. http://www.scdhec.net/news/releases/2002/nr03clinics02.htm South Dakota- vaccination required at frequency determined by vaccine used. http://nsu-cc.northern.edu/aac/rabies.html Tennessee- vaccination required. http://www.state.tn.us/sos/acts/103/pub/pc0765.pdf Texas- vaccination required; may be annual or triennial depending on whether Texas rabies law change has passed. http://texascats.com/region3/legislative/texas_rabies_law_update.htm Utah- vaccination required. http://health.utah.gov/epi/rabies/R386rabies.pdf Vermont- vaccination required. http://www.vermontagriculture.com/restright.PDF Virginia- vaccination required, boosters according to vaccine used. http://www.co.fairfax.va.us/ps/ac/rabfacts.htm Washington- locally mandated requirements. http://www.mrsc.org/Subjects/PubSafe/animal/AnimalLicense.aspx#Rabies West Virginia- vaccination every two years required. http://tinyurl.com/28xs5 Wisconsin- vaccination not required for cats. http://www.wvma.org/news02.asp Wyoming- locally mandated requirements; "rabies districts". http://www.wyadmb.com/Chapter25.PDF Interstate travel requirements: http://www.oda.state.or.us/ahid/animal_health/cl_dog&catPrint.html Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde thx for the replies... i still dont want to get him vaccined for it... I dont like any of them.. Just like this vaccine they recently gave to some of the U.S. soldiers...some of them either died or got really sick from it.. So can i go to my vet and say i dont want him to get a rabies vaccine? whats the worse they can do? thanks mike In the fine newsgroup "alt.cats", "mike" 2004: > So can i go to my vet and say i dont want him to get a rabies > vaccine? whats the worse they can do? Your vet can't insist. All they will do is make a note in your cats chart that you refused. What *will* happen is that if your cat bites someone, your cat will be quarantined. Depending on your local laws, it could be a quarantine in your own home, or in a cage in your vets office for a certain period of time. If during that time your cat doesn't exhibit signs of rabies illness, they'll probably release your cat. You may or may not have a fine. It's also good to know that even if your cat doesn't go outdoors, animals that can carry rabies can get indoors. Bats have gotten into peoples homes and flew around wildly trying to get out, and they are unpredictable. Also, your cat can accidentally get out; you'd want to be sure he's protected if this happens. Check your local area DNR, find out if rabies is common where you live. SignatureCheryl circa Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:13:51 -0500, in alt.cats, Cheryl (jlhshadow@nospamhotmail.com) said, > > So can i go to my vet and say i dont want him to get a rabies > > vaccine? whats the worse they can do? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > you'd want to be sure he's protected if this happens. Check your > local area DNR, find out if rabies is common where you live. Also, in some locations, you can serve jail time for non-compliance with the rabies requirements. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde In the fine newsgroup "alt.cats", Laura R. <firstinitiallastname@technologist.com> artfully composed this message within <news:MPG.1b2eebae83d90a3e98a90d@news.verizon.net> on 07 Jun 2004: > circa Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:13:51 -0500, in alt.cats, Cheryl > (jlhshadow@nospamhotmail.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Laura I would hope they would allow titers to be done in the case of a sick (not rabies, sick) animal. Can a titer be done for rabies, or is the brain test the only test? How would you deal with a case of your cat biting someone who went to the hospital to be treated for a cat bite? SignatureCheryl circa Mon, 07 Jun 2004 21:28:57 -0500, in alt.cats, Cheryl (jlhshadow@nospamhotmail.com) said, > > Also, in some locations, you can serve jail time for > > non-compliance with the rabies requirements. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > your cat biting someone who went to the hospital to be treated for > a cat bite? From the digging I did, the regulations regarding all of that vary even more than the requirements. The brain test is the only test for *infection*, which is why quarantines are often used in the case of companion animals whose vaccination status is unknown. As far as titering for antibodies, IIRC, it can be done. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde In the fine newsgroup "alt.cats", Laura R. <firstinitiallastname@technologist.com> artfully composed this message within <news:MPG.1b2f179bc625dd9098a914@news.verizon.net> on 08 Jun 2004: > From the digging I did, the regulations regarding all of that > vary even more than the requirements. The brain test is the only > test for *infection*, which is why quarantines are often used in > the case of companion animals whose vaccination status is > unknown. As far as titering for antibodies, IIRC, it can be > done. Good to know, Laura, thanks. I thought I had remembered one of the techs at Shadow's old vets saying that they could titer for antibodies but I couldn't remember if he meant rabies, or any of the UR vaccinations. Some of what I've been reading lately about FeLV vaccinations is making me think about that one, as well. Apparently there are different types that could vaccinate them for life if they are already an adult. From the "experts" section on the FourPaws site where Shadow's story is. http://www.fourpawstrail.com/felvcats/pros-mbernard.html This info might be worth a call to Cornell to verify, or at least get their thoughts. SignatureCheryl circa Tue, 08 Jun 2004 19:36:38 -0500, in alt.cats, Cheryl (jlhshadow@nospamhotmail.com) said, > Some of what I've been reading lately about > FeLV vaccinations is making me think about that one, as well. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > This info might be worth a call to Cornell to verify, or at least > get their thoughts. I'd be interested to hear what they say if you do. :-) I don't vaccinate mine for FeLV, although I used to when they were younger. When Alex got sick, they were all tested and were all negative, and since this is a closed household, there is absolutely no point in my vaccinating them. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde In certain cities in Ohio ( mine is one) if your cat does not have all it's shots the dog warden can take it away from you & charge you with animal cruelity. Every vet in our town must report treating a cat & what shots the cat or kitten has. The same applies to puppies & dogs. Our vets don't approve of this, but obide by the law. It's a bunch of bull crap in my book! I'm a Vet Assistance & I'm not even allowed to give my kittens & cats thier shots!! I do however feel all animals need thier shots no matter if they live indoor or out as us humans can carry diseases in on our shoes & clothing. >Every vet in our town must report treating a cat & what >shots the cat or kitten has. I understand reporting possible rabies incidents, but are you saying the vets report *every* animal it treats? To whom do they report? ! I do however feel all animals need thier >shots no matter if they live indoor or out as us humans can carry >diseases in on our shoes & clothing. I don't agree with this at all. Rabies, feleuk, etc., can't be transmitted via clothing and shoes. With the known risks the vaccines hold, I don't think every cat should be vaccinated, either. I have a cat who almost died from a vaccination. He has never had one since. Sherry circa 08 Jun 2004 10:58:11 GMT, in alt.cats, Sherry (sriddles@aol.comkitty) said, > >Every vet in our town must report treating a cat & what > >shots the cat or kitten has. > > I understand reporting possible rabies incidents, but are you saying the vets > report *every* animal it treats? To whom do they report? Usually to the local health department, IIRC. > ! I do however feel all animals need thier > >shots no matter if they live indoor or out as us humans can carry > >diseases in on our shoes & clothing. > > I don't agree with this at all. Rabies, feleuk, etc., can't be transmitted via > clothing and shoes. Agreed. > With the known risks the vaccines hold, I don't think every > cat should be vaccinated, either. Absolutely agreed. That's why Cornell has "core" vaccination recommendations and optional vaccination recommendations- not every cat should have every vaccine. I'm not keen on having my indoor-only, NYC-dwelling cats vaccinated for rabies, but I *do* understand the premise that an animal with rabies could get in to where the cats are. Ten or fifteen years ago, I was in my bedroom one night and a bat flew out of my closet. It swooped into the living room and by the time I got in there, there was the bat, dead on the floor, surrounded by my cats. I took it to MSU for rabies testing and it was negative, but it could just as easily have been positive. It had apparently come in via the eaves of the roof and gotten into my closet that way (the apartment I lived in at the time was a large converted attic). > I have a cat who almost died from a > vaccination. He has never had one since. I'm really conscious of what vaccines, if any, my cats get as a result of Alex first becoming sick after vaccinations. Yes, it turned out that he had lymphoma, but a reaction to the vaccines triggered a bout with cholangiohepatitis or some such (now I can't even remember!). I've seen too much information about vaccine-related sarcomas, as well, to simply blindly vaccinate my cats. Jacob's vaccination days are done due to his age and CRF. Camille and Oscar aren't getting anything but FVRCP this year, and in a couple of years, their vaccination days are over, too. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde >I'm really conscious of what vaccines, if any, my cats get as a >result of Alex first becoming sick after vaccinations. Yes, it turned [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Laura Just to expand on Yoda's history: He'd always been vaccinated, yearly. Then about age 12 or so, he started vomiting and twitching a couple of hours after. The vet gave him some kind of shot, I don't even remember what. He seemed to settle down, but wouldn't eat. By the end of the second day, hepatic lipidosis had set in and he truly almost died. He also lost all the hair at the injection site. We don't know which vaccine it was, because I had all the vaccinations done at once. Which was a mistake, but hindsight is always crystal clear. Now, the other 3 still get vaccinated, but we space them at least a week apart. Also, I never, ever vaccinate a cat even if they seem under the weather, or have an abscess, or *any* kind of medical issue going on till they're absolutely healthy. When we first got Biskit, she was pretty emaciated. The vet wormed and vaccinated her, and she also had a (much milder) reaction. Now I've amended my "rules" to include, no shots for anybody who is as run-down as she was. I used to think vaccs were routine and worry-free. How wrong I was. Sherry circa 09 Jun 2004 00:09:25 GMT, in alt.cats, Sherry (sriddles@aol.comkitty) said, > I used > to think vaccs were routine and worry-free. How wrong I was. Well, it seems like there weren't so d**ned many of them years back. I definitely think we over vaccinate now. It's interesting that both Yoda and Alex had liver reactions to vaccination, eh? And I'm guessing that your vet gave Yoda either epinephrine or Benadryl in that shot. :-) Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde In the fine newsgroup "alt.cats", Laura R. <firstinitiallastname@technologist.com> artfully composed this message within <news:MPG.1b2ffe88a6aaaa2098a917@news.verizon.net> on 08 Jun 2004: > I'm really conscious of what vaccines, if any, my cats get as a > result of Alex first becoming sick after vaccinations In the yahoo IBD group, some suspect that vaccinations could be related to cats getting IBD. That is part of the questionaire when you join. I don't know their tallies, and so far it is of course anecdotal in nature, but if the pros don't do the studies, how do you get them to? I'd imagine large polls could cause them to think about it. SignatureCheryl circa Tue, 08 Jun 2004 19:25:52 -0500, in alt.cats, Cheryl (jlhshadow@nospamhotmail.com) said, > > I'm really conscious of what vaccines, if any, my cats get as a > > result of Alex first becoming sick after vaccinations [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > get them to? I'd imagine large polls could cause them to think about > it. Hmm. Veddy interesting, even if anecdotal. I wonder if there are any actual studies going on to determine if there is a link... Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde |
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