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Report James Marz
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Art Knight - 01 Jun 2004 13:24 GMT Marz, you are one sick individual.
report to Google;
groups-abuse@google.com
report to Yahoo;
mail-abuse@yahoo-inc.com
and why was it the FBI wanted to hear about animal haters? Oh yeah, because they tend to go on to be serial killers, best let them know as well then;
https://tips.fbi.gov/
Hope they come for you Marz.
Art
K. A. Cannon - 01 Jun 2004 16:20 GMT arthurknight1@lycos.com (Art Knight) posted <8d2aa0ef.0406010424.37877aab@posting.google.com> in alt.cats on 1 Jun 2004 05:24:26 -0700:
>Marz, you are one sick individual. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Art He hasn't done anything wrong. Trolling is not against any AUP I know. Sending frivolous complaints is.
Now spit out the hook and killfile him.
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mhm33x1
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you" - Nietzsche, From Beyond Good and Evil, (1886)
"The person who stands up and says, 'This is stupid,' either is asked to `behave' or, worse, is greeted with a cheerful 'Yes, we know! Isn't it terrific!'" - Frank Zappa
Tom/Mark in alt.test sez: "People like you are pure scum, K.A. Cannon."
Victor Martinez - 02 Jun 2004 01:44 GMT > He hasn't done anything wrong. > Trolling is not against any AUP I know. Actually, many ISPs have rules against disrupting behavior in usenet.
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K. A. Cannon - 02 Jun 2004 05:06 GMT On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 00:44:34 GMT, Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> amazed us with his/her particular brand of stupidity in <Sp9vc.31736$mQ4.26392@fe2.texas.rr.com> in alt.cats when he/she wrote:
>> He hasn't done anything wrong. >> Trolling is not against any AUP I know. > >Actually, many ISPs have rules against disrupting behavior in usenet. Please explain how his behavior is disruptive?
Is he forcing you to read his trolls? Is he forcing you to click the offensive links?
Or is anything that is objectionable to you not to be considered free speech?
He has every right to be an idiot, a.shole and jerk. And you have every right to ignore him.
Do so.
-- K. A. Cannon kacannon at insurgent dot org (change the orgy to org to reply)
mhm33x1
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you" - Nietzsche, From Beyond Good and Evil, (1886)
"The person who stands up and says, 'This is stupid,' either is asked to `behave' or, worse, is greeted with a cheerful 'Yes, we know! Isn't it terrific!'" - Frank Zappa
Mmhsb - 02 Jun 2004 05:59 GMT > On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 00:44:34 GMT, Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> > amazed us with his/her particular brand of stupidity in [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > `behave' or, worse, is greeted with a cheerful 'Yes, we know! Isn't it > terrific!'" - Frank Zappa
Obviously the cat torture pictures posted here are subject to investigation and cross the line far beyond harmless troll posts. It is sickening. As a cat lover I'm pissed off, as a person I'm disgusted that one would spend his time pursuing evil & morbid things. One day it will haunt you and know that you are falling deeper into the pit of no return. Get a life Mars and Stop the demented posts. --------Maria.
James Marz - 04 Jun 2004 02:47 GMT > > On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 00:44:34 GMT, Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> > > amazed us with his/her particular brand of stupidity in [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > you are falling deeper into the pit of no return. Get a life Mars and Stop > the demented posts. --------Maria. Did you ever download those cat torture flicks from Winmx? Artwork eh? When the heat dies down I'll film a new one for you. If you need a fix right now you can download one my friend made. He crucifys two cats by nailing them to a barn wall with roofing tacks. They were still alive in the "Jesus pose" when He used them for living, screaming dartboards. Pretty good stuff, but not as original and interesting as my artwork.
James Marz
Born in lust, turn to dust. Born in sin? come on in! - Stephen King
Victor Martinez - 02 Jun 2004 13:30 GMT > Please explain how his behavior is disruptive? Flaming is considered disruptive in usenet. At least that's been my experience in over 10 years of posting.
> Or is anything that is objectionable to you not to be considered free > speech? Free speech does not guarantee a forum in which to express it.
> He has every right to be an idiot, a.shole and jerk. > And you have every right to ignore him. > > Do so. First of all, you don't get to tell me what to do. Second of all, I've had the moron kill-filled for months. I was simply correcting your mistake when you said that no ISP had rules against what he does. Many do.
Cheers.
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Eric - 01 Jun 2004 23:10 GMT (Art Knight) wrote:
> Marz, you are one sick individual. Posting things that may be considered in poor taste doesn't warrant an abuse report. Killfile him and move on if he offends you.
dinkmeister - 02 Jun 2004 00:14 GMT thanks, I hope this idiot gets kicked off his isp
:Marz, you are one sick individual. : [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] : :Art Mary - 02 Jun 2004 00:21 GMT > thanks, I hope this idiot gets kicked off his isp Or at least get canned by Yahoo and Google. Once the abuse desks see the stuff he is posting, they'll act.
K. A. Cannon - 02 Jun 2004 05:11 GMT On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 23:21:19 GMT, "Mary" <rosefan@email.com> amazed us with his/her particular brand of stupidity in <Pb8vc.62$tH1.17845@twister.southeast.rr.com> in alt.cats when he/she wrote:
>> thanks, I hope this idiot gets kicked off his isp >> >Or at least get canned by Yahoo and Google. Once the abuse desks see the >stuff he is posting, they'll act. Right.
How is posting links to web site already available on the web abusive?
I see...it's offensive and objectionable to *you* so therefore *you* should have the right to have his access removed.
I am sure some admins are going to get a laugh at your netKKKop attempts.
Yahoo and google accounts are throw-aways.
You have no clue where his post originated from. And that's what's funnier.
-- K. A. Cannon kacannon at insurgent dot org (change the orgy to org to reply)
mhm33x1
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you" - Nietzsche, From Beyond Good and Evil, (1886)
"The person who stands up and says, 'This is stupid,' either is asked to `behave' or, worse, is greeted with a cheerful 'Yes, we know! Isn't it terrific!'" - Frank Zappa
James Marz - 02 Jun 2004 15:19 GMT > > thanks, I hope this idiot gets kicked off his isp > > > Or at least get canned by Yahoo and Google. Once the abuse desks see the > stuff he is posting, they'll act. Look PET! If they act, then I'll act! I will get a new address and a new account! It takes about 3 minutes to do both! So keep up the good work nitwit! I'll always be here to spit in your acne scarred face! Go ahead report me! The FBI have visited me already, they came in to my house talked with me, and laughed, I mean really laughed at the posts I have been reported for! They said quote "We had to follow up on the complaint Sir, if you decide to become a serial killer please don't try to outrun the law in that wheelchair". We had some laughs and they left. Better luck next time!
James Marz
Born in lust, turn to dust. Born in sin? come on in! - Stephen King
Eric - 02 Jun 2004 18:24 GMT (James Marz) wrote:
> The FBI have visited me already, they came > in to my house talked with me, and laughed, I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > some laughs and they left. Better luck next > time! I really don't see how one can connect the posts you've made and translate them into becoming a serial killer. People get entertainment all the time from odd things. And in your case, I think you are just really trying to work out some deep issues and working through your grief... and people have different ways of doing that.
I watch lots and lots of violent horror movies and play violent video games. But does that translate into me becoming a gruesome killer and stalker later in life? I doubt it. I can't stand the sight of real blood... I even have a hard time killing bugs. Sure a very small handful can, but there are a vast many people who can seperate fact from fiction... and we don't need other people breathing down our necks and telling us otherwise.
Eric
Art Knight - 03 Jun 2004 01:20 GMT > Look PET! If they act, then I'll act! I will get a new address and a > new account! It takes about 3 minutes to do both! So keep up the good [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > James Marz Sure, the FBI follow up every single e-mail lead within 24 hours, they totally have the time. Go set up a new account, it takes about 3 minutes to complain about it again. And I don't buy this split personality trying-to-recapture-my-love-for-cats bull either, you're a just a sad individual who probably gets walked all over everywhere in the real world, and comes here to act all tough in front of a bunch of random people who like cats. Great life James, really great.
Yahoo logged your IP address James, the feds can find you.
They're gonna be watching you man.
And for all the free speech enthusiasts bear in mind I have the freedom to say I think this is an abuse of a group clearly used by cat lovers, and I have every right to encourage others to do the same. Reporting someone I consider to be potentially mentally unstable to a relevant law authority is hardly akin to the "KKK", a quick search of the net will reveal several recent instances of people posting animal torture photos on the net being tracked, arrested, and charged by the FBI and numerous articles on studies in the area, such as;
"Is There Any Evidence of a Connection Between Animal Cruelty and Human Violence? Absolutely. Many studies in psychology, sociology, and criminology during the last 25+ years have demonstrated that violent offenders frequently have childhood and adolescent histories of serious and repeated animal cruelty. The FBI has recognized the connection since the 1970s, when bureau analysis of the life histories of imprisoned serial killers suggested that most, as children, had killed or tortured animals. Other research has shown consistent patterns of animal cruelty among perpetrators of more common forms of violence, including child abuse, spouse abuse, and elder abuse."
Further to that, whilst the pornographers that litter this and every group at least have the decency to correctly label their crap, these pictures could easily be viewed by kids who's parents see no harm in them checking out a link of "Korean bred cats", if he wants to share his interest in eating cats go to culture.korea or whatever, free speech isn't a licence to just be a complete moron and continually get away with it, and these groups constantly take in new members who will "feed the troll" anyway, I choose to make it easier for others to complain about him.
Art
Eric - 03 Jun 2004 14:58 GMT (Art Knight) wrote:
> And for all the free speech enthusiasts bear in > mind I have the freedom to say I think this is > an abuse of a group clearly used by cat > lovers, and I have every right to encourage > others to do the same. Fine, but as a "free speech enthusiast", I also have the right to say that I think you are blowing things way out of proportion and reading way too much into it. Just because I don't agree with you, doesn't make my opinion any less valid than yours.
Eric
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