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muffin - 23 May 2004 17:41 GMT
Is there a way to disuade cats from visiting our yard?  Is there a spray or
something one can use to discourage them from visiting?  We dont want to
take a chance with them hurting our indoor cats if they happend to get out..

Any thoughts welcome.
MaryL - 23 May 2004 17:55 GMT
> Is there a way to disuade cats from visiting our yard?  Is there a spray or
> something one can use to discourage them from visiting?  We dont want to
> take a chance with them hurting our indoor cats if they happend to get out..
>
> Any thoughts welcome.

Here is something that I have mentioned in response to some other people who
had similar questions.  It is a motion-activated sprinkler with settings
that can be customized for your dimensions.  I have never seen one in
operation, but I have read some positive comments about it.  If you are
interested, it would be a good idea to surf the web for price comparisons --
I have seen it listed on a number of sites.
http://www.biconet.com/critter/sprinkler.html

MaryL
spenzdad - 23 May 2004 18:13 GMT
thats a terrific idea......thank you!

> > Is there a way to disuade cats from visiting our yard?  Is there a spray
> or
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> MaryL
Natalie - 26 May 2004 10:58 GMT
> thats a terrific idea......thank you!
>
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> >
> > MaryL

Wasn't your name Muffin when you asked this question?
Ted Davis - 23 May 2004 18:24 GMT
>Is there a way to disuade cats from visiting our yard?  Is there a spray or
>something one can use to discourage them from visiting?  We dont want to
>take a chance with them hurting our indoor cats if they happend to get out..
>
>Any thoughts welcome.

My cats as well as strays stay out of most of my back yard: the back
yard is the domain of two large dogs that are not cat friendly.  If
they didn't keep the possums and coons out of the house, they would be
gone in a heartbeat.

T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body)
Sherry - 25 May 2004 17:01 GMT
>My cats as well as strays stay out of most of my back yard: the back
>yard is the domain of two large dogs that are not cat friendly.  If
>they didn't keep the possums and coons out of the house, they would be
>gone in a heartbeat.

We lost our dacshund a couple of months ago. I can *really* tell just what a
good job he did patrolling the yard now. We are over-run with snakes. I see one
almost every day, usually in the morning. The armadillos have dug up the back
yard so bad one corner looks like plowed ground.

Sherry
Ted Davis - 26 May 2004 01:49 GMT
>>My cats as well as strays stay out of most of my back yard: the back
>>yard is the domain of two large dogs that are not cat friendly.  If
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>almost every day, usually in the morning. The armadillos have dug up the back
>yard so bad one corner looks like plowed ground.

My back yard looks like no man's land from WWI in places - the
neighbor's border collie comes over here and digs up my yard.

My varmint problems are raccoons, opossums, and that border collie ...
and at least one of my own dogs.

I think I have an idea for a vermin resistant cat entry, but how would
I test it with the dogs still there?  The idea is to construct a
tunnel with a platform arraigned so that the hole can be seen only
from the platform, and the platform reached only by a jump.  The real
trick would be a small fan the blows outside into the tunnel so that
no inside air - and smells - can get into the tunnel, let alone out of
it to lead the vermin to the tunnel.

T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body)
Natalie - 26 May 2004 10:59 GMT
> >My cats as well as strays stay out of most of my back yard: the back
> >yard is the domain of two large dogs that are not cat friendly.  If
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> almost every day, usually in the morning. The armadillos have dug up the back
> yard so bad one corner looks like plowed ground.

OMG! How freaky that would be, seeing a snake everyday, >SHUDDER<

Nat
Sherry - 26 May 2004 15:04 GMT
>OMG! How freaky that would be, seeing a snake everyday, >SHUDDER<
>
>Nat

It's downright disturbing. They aren't poisonous, but I just can't get over
being afraid of them. The ones outside I can deal with. But we have had one
garter snake in the pantry, one baby bullsnake in the garage and now a huge
snake has taken up living in the cellar. I was just talking about this on
another group, and took a pic of him (her?). I am *so* trying to quit being so
afraid.
http://www.members.aol.com/greywolf17/snake2.jpg
Sherry
MaryL - 26 May 2004 15:29 GMT
> >OMG! How freaky that would be, seeing a snake everyday, >SHUDDER<
> >
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> http://www.members.aol.com/greywolf17/snake2.jpg
> Sherry

Sherry,

Do you have a fireplace -- and if so, do you have a bird guard (cap) on it
with fairly small mesh?  Incredible as it sounds, snakes can go up and down
brick walls, and some have been known to get into a house through a chimney.
I doubt that they would actually "crawl" down a chimney.  I suspect they
enter and then then tumble part-way down.  That's just a guess, though.  I
can tell you through experience that I grew up in a rural area of Ohio.  We
lived in an old frame "farm house," and snakes can enter through
surprisingly small openings.  It helps to use the same techniques we used
for mice -- that is, look for even the smallest holes and crevices (such as,
openings beside pipes) and fill that with steel wool.  You may want to put
one of those flexible vinyl "door sweeps" on the bottom of the garage door
(and any other door that does not fit tight at the bottom).  They are really
intended to keep out water, but they also help a lot with critters.  Of
course, none of this helps much if the doors are sometimes left propped
open!

MaryL
dd - 26 May 2004 15:50 GMT
> > >OMG! How freaky that would be, seeing a snake everyday, >SHUDDER<
> > >
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>
> MaryL

Or, if there are Christian snake-handling fundamentalists in the area,
you could invite them to come over and take away the snakes ;-)
Sherry - 26 May 2004 16:33 GMT
> Of
>course, none of this helps much if the doors are sometimes left propped
>open!
>
>MaryL

That's exactly what happened. My fault. DH is just dead-set against cat flaps,
and I always prop the back door open just a little during the daytime. Or I
used to, not any more!! This is kinda gross, but you're a wildlife person--you
might think it interesting. We found a dead one earlier, with a large bulge in
the middle. It was decomposed enough to be able to tell....it was a white glass
doorknob the snake had swallowed. I guess he thought it was an egg and couldn't
digest it.

Sherry
MaryL - 26 May 2004 16:37 GMT
> > Of
> >course, none of this helps much if the doors are sometimes left propped
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>
> Sherry

That's amazing!  I guess that snake needed a pair of eyeglasses.

MaryuL
Natalie - 29 May 2004 07:47 GMT
> >OMG! How freaky that would be, seeing a snake everyday, >SHUDDER<
> >
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> http://www.members.aol.com/greywolf17/snake2.jpg
> Sherry

OH MY GWAD!!!!!!  I would just die if I seen anything like that in my yard.
You poor thing.
Randy Farnsworth - 27 May 2004 18:01 GMT
I've had the same problem for years. The cats dig up my garden, kill
my fruit trees with their claws, and leave "presents" in the kids play
areas.

I've tried sprays, black pepper powder, and even mild
stomach-upsetting poisons to try and drive them away from my yard.
After my son, with Down Syndrome, stepped in a mess and was playing
with his dirty shoe, I even put a not-so-polite note with my name and
phone number in the mailbox of all the neighbors, asking them to keep
their cats  (and dogs) home. Nothing seems to have worked. I'm ready
to resort to box traps, but I don't want to upset my neighbors, whom
I'm good friends with.

What can I do?

I don't mean to offend cat owners, and I think cats are beautiful
animals, but to be honest, I don't think they've ever been truly
domesticated. I think the reason the Egyptian empire fell apart is
because they're the first ones that tried to domesticate cats. Maybe
that's why Egypt lost many of its oases - the cats buried too much
poop in the sand :-)

Randy Farnsworth
Author of "A Stand Yet Taken"
http://randyfarnsworth.com/

> Is there a way to disuade cats from visiting our yard?  Is there a spray or
> something one can use to discourage them from visiting?  We dont want to
> take a chance with them hurting our indoor cats if they happend to get out..
>
> Any thoughts welcome.

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