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bob - 23 May 2004 20:45 GMT
There is another poster in this forums named "bob" and he's not me.
Unfortunately we go by same name.

I posted a couple months ago, I have a 13 yr old male cat that had a very
high Amalyse enzyme reading.  The local vet believed he had a pancreas
problem (maybe cancer) but this was refuted by a specialist after an
ultrasound.  His diet changed from X/D prescription diet to W/D prescription
diet and he acted normal/energetic/good appetite for the past couple months.
But last couple days his appetite isn't strong and he's seems a little
lethargic.  I recall someone talking then in the newsgroup about his
kidneys, any suggestions or info considering if it was his kidneys what
other symptoms he might have?

bob
Gene Royer - 23 May 2004 22:06 GMT
> There is another poster in this forums named "bob" and he's not me.
> Unfortunately we go by same name.
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>
> bob

A 13-year old cat is like an elderly man around mid-seventies.  As such, he
may have good days and bad days.  Keep a close eye on him and see if he
perks up.  Particularly watch for weight loss--both visibly and clinically
(by scale).  As you know, w/d is not a high caloric food.  Monitor his
drinking and urination to see if it becomes excessive, or if he begins to
have difficulty on the box.

Often, vets are quick to pass judgment because they know the client expects
it.

--Gene
buglady - 24 May 2004 14:33 GMT
> There is another poster in this forums named "bob" and he's not me.
> Unfortunately we go by same name.
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> kidneys, any suggestions or info considering if it was his kidneys what
> other symptoms he might have?

.......Hi bob, glad to hear your cat's been doing well.  To check kidney
function you need a blood test which measures BUN and creatinine and also a
urinalysis to check for specific gravity.  Kidney failure is usually
signaled by lots of drinking and peeing.  My 18 year old was just diagnosed
with renal failure last week.  She's had a good run and I'll do everything I
can, but I fear her days are numbered.  :-(

buglady
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kate - 24 May 2004 21:47 GMT
> My 18 year old was just diagnosed
> with renal failure last week.  She's had a good run and I'll do everything I
> can, but I fear her days are numbered.  :-(

Wow, 18 and just diagnosed. She has had a good long run. Sorry for the
bad news, buglady.

Blessings to you both,

Kate
buglady - 25 May 2004 01:40 GMT
> Wow, 18 and just diagnosed. She has had a good long run. Sorry for the
> bad news, buglady.
>
> Blessings to you both,

.......Thanks Kate.  After 5 days of researching I've reserved today for
tears......always knew the day would come when she'd have to leave, but all
of a sudden that day is very much closer.  This kitty has been a true rock
through many years.  I paused today to think about what I was doing 17 1/2
years ago.....

Blessings back at ya
buglady
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Lois - 01 Jun 2004 06:39 GMT
"buglady" wrote about her cat's renal failure:
After 5 days of researching I've reserved today for
: tears......always knew the day would come when she'd have to leave, but all
: of a sudden that day is very much closer.  This kitty has been a true rock
: through many years.  I paused today to think about what I was doing 17 1/2
: years ago.....

Sorry to hear about your kitty. I know how you feel, and it isn't easy. That
day might not be that close, though. I've talked to a couple of people whose
cats went downhill fast once they were diagnosed, but my cat was diagnosed
with renal failure over a year ago, and his kidneys aren't doing too badly
yet. Finding the right reduced-protein diet for him has kept his kidney
condition in check.

Lois
'cedes - 01 Jun 2004 08:52 GMT
An excellent site;  http://www.felinecrf.org/

> "buglady" wrote about her cat's renal failure:
>  After 5 days of researching I've reserved today for
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>
> Lois
Laura R. - 05 Jun 2004 16:55 GMT
circa Mon, 31 May 2004 22:39:08 -0700, in alt.med.veterinary, Lois
(auto-newsgroups@wordsweave.com) said,
> "buglady" wrote about her cat's renal failure:
>  After 5 days of researching I've reserved today for
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> yet. Finding the right reduced-protein diet for him has kept his kidney
> condition in check.

My cat was diagnosed about two and a half years ago. He's been eating
K/D since, and just started fluid therapy last fall. His values have
remained steadily in the "mid-stage" range throughout, and he's doing
very well, having just turned 16. On the Yahoo CRF list, I've read
the surveys and seen cats that have gone over four years post-
diagnosis (and are still going strong), so I'm crossing my fingers
that I should be that lucky.

Laura
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bob - 26 May 2004 00:41 GMT
> > There is another poster in this forums named "bob" and he's not me.
> > Unfortunately we go by same name.
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> with renal failure last week.  She's had a good run and I'll do everything I
> can, but I fear her days are numbered.  :-(

i had a 15 yr old put to sleep about 2 yrs ago with renal failure, so i was
slightly famiiar with the symptoms -- his were severe..i think my cat now
may either have the very very beginnings of kidney trouble (hopefully not)
or maybe jsut not feeling great for a couple days..the vet didn't suspect
kidneys, but that was the same vet who thought he had pancreatic cancer, so
i'm not sure right now .. sorry to hear about your 18yr old, but like you
say, she's had quite a good long life, so hopefully her bout with kidney
disease will be humane.

bob
buglady - 26 May 2004 15:56 GMT
> i had a 15 yr old put to sleep about 2 yrs ago with renal failure, so i was
> slightly famiiar with the symptoms -- his were severe..i think my cat now
> may either have the very very beginnings of kidney trouble (hopefully not)
> or maybe jsut not feeling great for a couple days
........You can get a more sensitive test - by Heska - the E.R.D. test,
gotta run can't look up the url this second.

but like you
> say, she's had quite a good long life, so hopefully her bout with kidney
> disease will be humane.

..........Me too bob, if she hates being messed with too much I'm not gonna
put her through it.  Now that she feels a wee bit better she's not so
disgusted by the oral med dosing.

buglady
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buglady - 26 May 2004 21:57 GMT
> ........You can get a more sensitive test - by Heska - the E.R.D. test,
> gotta run can't look up the url this second.

.......Here ya go bob:
http://www.heska.com/erd/lab_felineinsert.asp
bob - 27 May 2004 03:07 GMT
> > i had a 15 yr old put to sleep about 2 yrs ago with renal failure, so i
> was
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> put her through it.  Now that she feels a wee bit better she's not so
> disgusted by the oral med dosing.

thank you for the link and all your good advice. good luck to your little
furry one, i know firsthand how difficult it is to go through..

bob
Ginger-lyn Summer - 27 May 2004 19:54 GMT
On Mon, 24 May 2004 13:33:54 GMT, "buglady" <buglady99@bigfootdog.com>
wrote:>

>.......Hi bob, glad to hear your cat's been doing well.  To check kidney
>function you need a blood test which measures BUN and creatinine and also a
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>buglady
>take out the dog before replying

So sorry to hear aout your kitty, buglady.  Treasure every day you
have left with  her, and take lots of photos to remember her by.  My
thoughts go out to you.

Ginger-lyn
currently living with a 14 yo CRF cat
buglady - 28 May 2004 11:16 GMT
> So sorry to hear aout your kitty, buglady.  Treasure every day you
> have left with  her, and take lots of photos to remember her by.  My
> thoughts go out to you.
>
> currently living with a 14 yo CRF cat

.........Thanks Ginger.  She's feeling better today after getting some B
vits in her, so maybe we'll be able to maintain for a while.  One day at a
time.....

buglady
take out the dog before replying
_ - 05 Jul 2004 23:43 GMT
Hi Buglady;
I have been successful in hydrating kittys in renal failure over a period of
time. If you cat isn't too far gone you can expect between 6 mo - 5 years
( yup, I had one client diagnosed by the vet at 17 with CRF and she lived to
22 with hydration therapy - sub-Q lactated ringers. Started our 100 ml every
other day... ended up 200 ml daily).
Ask your vet.
Regards,
Pat K - LeConcierge/Holisticat
petsexpert.com

> > There is another poster in this forums named "bob" and he's not me.
> > Unfortunately we go by same name.
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> buglady
> take out the dog before replying
buglady - 06 Jul 2004 12:12 GMT
> Hi Buglady;
> I have been successful in hydrating kittys in renal failure over a period of
> time. If you cat isn't too far gone you can expect between 6 mo - 5 years
> ( yup, I had one client diagnosed by the vet at 17 with CRF and she lived to
> 22 with hydration therapy - sub-Q lactated ringers. Started our 100 ml every
> other day... ended up 200 ml daily).

.......Hmmmmm, well I think I'd be worried about overload of water and high
blood pressure.  She's not dehydrated.

buglady
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