Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
Discussion GroupsGeneral TopicsCat AnecdotesHealth and BehaviorRescue
CatKB.com
Contact UsLink To UsSearch & Site Map

Cat Forum / General Topics / May 2004

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Fox rips cats head off

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
Alterego - 22 May 2004 21:33 GMT
‘This fox had ripped the head off our cat'

Janet Richardson has seen how bloodthirsty the urban fox can be. And
she wants it hunted down
By Newsdesk

PETS being torn limb from limb and fears a baby could be savaged next
have led residents to call for hunting on the borough's streets.

Janet Richardson says urban foxes are running out of control and must
be destroyed, whatever it takes.

Hungry vixens in The Mead, Beckenham, have been known to leap through
open windows to steal kitchen scraps and, when confronted, snarl and
snap angrily at anyone who dares tackle them.

Mrs Richardson's patience with the sly intruders finally snapped when
one of them quite literally ripped apart the family pet, a ginger tom
called Anu.

She said: "My nine-year-old son Samuel came home to the most
distressing and grisly scene. A fox had torn the head off our cat.
There was blood everywhere. It was like a massacre.

"For a youngster to have to face this is appalling. Within one week
three cats have been butchered by foxes, their heads torn off and
various body parts left strewn about the place. These foxes have
learnt to hunt in packs to corner cats, they're acting like wolves in
the wild." Mrs Richardson, 43, says they are breeding out of control
and all efforts to control them have failed but claims Bromley Council
has washed its hands of the problem and refuses to get involved.

The research director at the School of Integrated Health, University
of Westminster, has written to Jacqui Lait MP pleading with her to
bring the problem to the attention of Parliament.

In her letter she said: "My nine-year-old son found our pet headless
and torn apart by the foxes. I am sure you can imagine how distressing
this was.

"As the foxes increase, and competition for food becomes harder, it
can only be a matter of time before this happens to a small child.

"The council claims it is unable to treat foxes as pests and,
therefore, does not provide a removal service. Is this due to
government policy or is it simply that they have no statutory
obligation to treat foxes as pests, so choose not to deal with the
problem?" Mrs Richardson says 10 years ago you would only see an odd
fox in Beckenham but last year a local pair had seven cubs and this
year they have produced another six.

"There doesn't seem to be any answer to keeping their numbers down and
if hunting them with hounds was practical, I would certainly consider
it." A spokesman for Bromley Council's environmental health department
confirmed it does not consider foxes to be pests and its officers do
not deal with them.

The only advice it could offer was to put down rags soaked in Jeyes
Fluid.

If residents still have problems the council recommends they contact
A1 Pest Control, in Dartford.

Peter Roberts from A1 insists "foxes are on the vermin list and need
to be controlled".

His suggested methods include, trapping, shooting, poisoning, gassing
or hunting with lurcher dogs.

Anne Holmes from the League Against Cruel Sports said: "This is a new
one on me but it fits very nicely with the pro-hunting lobby's efforts
to vilify the fox in towns and the country.

"There is no reason to believe incidents are happening often enough,
or are severe enough, to suggest foxes are a real threat.

"We could well be seeing the latest publicity stunt from the
pro-hunting lobby who just want to find ways to justify their cruel
and barbaric sport. I doubt we'll see hounds racing across
Blackheath." Trevor Williams from the Fox Project, a charity dedicated
to the protection, rescue, and advocacy for the wild fox in south east
England, said: "It will cause traffic chaos. It's bad enough in the
country but in town it will be crazy.

"They trespass enough in the countryside, so in an urban area it will
be worse. They will be breaking the law every 100 yards.

"I reckon the hounds will end up killing more cats than they will
foxes."
Gene Royer - 22 May 2004 21:40 GMT
> 'This fox had ripped the head off our cat'
>
[quoted text clipped - 85 lines]
> "I reckon the hounds will end up killing more cats than they will
> foxes."

Every animal is in the food chain.  Even Humans.  Prehistoric man was
somewhere in the middle, but modern, 21-st century man is at the top.  All
animals are subjugated to man--and particularly to the male of the species.

--Geno
Mary - 22 May 2004 21:49 GMT
>PETS being torn limb from limb and fears a baby could be savaged next
>have led residents to call for hunting on the borough's streets.

If they don't want their cats to be killed, they should keep them inside.
Coyotes and dogs will also rip the heads off cats. Killing the foxes is not the
answer. The community needs to get together and stop attracting the foxes to
the area. Leaving your pet cat out is making a nice easy meal for the fox. It's
easier for them to eat domestic cats than small rodents. Leaving pet food,
dropped fruit, open garbage cans will also attract them. They may also be some
people directly feeding them. Trapping and killing them won't stop them. More
will come and fight for the territory of the ones killed.
Magic Mood Jeep? - 22 May 2004 22:15 GMT
You gotta remember, Mary, that in the UK, where this is happening, they
liken keeping a cat indoors to chopping off their own d*cks.  It appalls
them.  And also, they don't see themselves as encroaching on the fox's
environment, but the other way around.    UK has been inhabited since before
the times of the Great Roman Kingdom, and by <insert deity name here> they
are NOT about to let a fur bearing creature inhabit THEIR land/garden/house.
And they don't have screens on their windows like we do over here, and
leaving food out is a way of life, another thing they are not about to
change, because, being the close-minded individuals that they are, they
shouldn't HAVE to change  - the foxes should just go away.

BTW - they've been having the same problem in Florida, except with
alligators and/or crocodiles (some up to 14 feet in length), for decades
now - their solution is to relocate the smaller/younger ones, but to
'humanely euthanize' the larger/older ones as they WILL find their way back
to the community.  Never crosses their minds to STOP building said
communities in the gator/croc's back yard.

Signature

The ONE and ONLY
lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde
in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)?
email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com
http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep

> >PETS being torn limb from limb and fears a baby could be savaged next
> >have led residents to call for hunting on the borough's streets.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> people directly feeding them. Trapping and killing them won't stop them. More
> will come and fight for the territory of the ones killed.
bob - 22 May 2004 22:08 GMT
> ‘This fox had ripped the head off our cat'
>  
[quoted text clipped - 85 lines]
> "I reckon the hounds will end up killing more cats than they will
> foxes."

f.ck you, yuppie vermin invaded the fox's domain, not the later, kill some
cats and teach you yuppie scum to keep your screaming brats in the house so
we dont have to hear it. Then cook your cats.
M.C. Mullen - 23 May 2004 07:34 GMT
| Janet Richardson has seen how bloodthirsty the urban fox can be. And
| she wants it hunted down
| By Newsdesk

Some years ago a large number of cats disappeared in a certain area of our
town. My friend who has lost her cat too is sure it was a fox because she
has seen the place where it lives and also cubs playing there. May/June
seems to be the time when foxes need extra food to feed the young ones.
In our town a lot of cats disappear, some blame the new Chinese rastaurants,
I blame the uncontrolled growth of the fox population.
Now recently we have had an increase of foxes where I live too, they have
been seen by the woman who delivers the papers, the dog chased one out of
our garden too. I lost two rabbits, my neighbour and a friend did too.
(Before that we had no problem for 15 years.)
Now, last week I heard an incredible fight outside, and in the morning the
cat was gone. She did not snuggle into my bed like she always did before. I
was very sad, eventually I decided to get a kitten from a farm. As I walked
outside, cat appeared and disappeared again like a ghost. But I had clearly
seen her and she was fine. Since then I have a totally different cat. She
used to always hang around in the garden, was never far away. Now she never
stays here anymore, is always on the go, but brings home 1-2 mice per day.
When she is here she stretches out in a very deep sleep on the sofa.
Well, foxes *do* attack cats. About little children I don't know. They would
not be left unattended anyway, would they?

Carola
Gee - 25 May 2004 05:37 GMT
Well, we have urban foxes where we live in London, as well as lots of
outgoing pet and stray cats, and our solution is simple: we feed foxes.
Perhaps if those idiots would help them out rather then looking for some
murdering solutions, life would be better for everyone.

Gee
Cheryl - 26 May 2004 02:15 GMT
on 25 May 2004:

> Well, we have urban foxes where we live in London, as well as lots of
> outgoing pet and stray cats, and our solution is simple: we feed foxes.
> Perhaps if those idiots would help them out rather then looking for some
> murdering solutions, life would be better for everyone.

Feeding wildlife isn't the answer, either. It only makes them fear humans
less, and adds to the problems when we intermingle. Our pets intermingle
with us and they become food for the wildlife a step up the chain. The only
answer I see isn't going to happen. Quit tearing down their habitats to
make even more environment for us. That is why wildlife comes closer to us.

Signature

Cheryl

Alun - 26 May 2004 03:34 GMT
>> Well, we have urban foxes where we live in London, as well as lots of
>> outgoing pet and stray cats, and our solution is simple: we feed
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> their habitats to make even more environment for us. That is why
> wildlife comes closer to us.

London is about the same size as New York (Greater London has more
population than the NY boroughs), and it is surrounded by a buffer zone
called the 'green belt', where the only way to get permission to build is
to first demolish an existing building.

If foxes are displaced from outside the green belt, that is a long way
outside London.

My parents had a family of foxes living at the bottom of their garden, less
than 10 miles outside London. They lived under a pile of logs. You could
watch the cubs play from the house, but you couldn't get close.
Cat Protector - 26 May 2004 04:43 GMT
This is one of the reasons why people need to keep their cats indoors. I
don't know what kind of incidents it will take before people get the
message. Here in Arizona, we had an incident where a cat and a dog were
killed and skinned The animals were found in their human's yard. The dog was
skinned in their owner's yard while the cat was killed in the same manner.
This just happened and both incidents were two days apart from each other
and in the same neighborhood. I hope they catch the person responsible and
do the same thing to him!

Signature

Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs!
www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek

Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com

> 'This fox had ripped the head off our cat'
>
[quoted text clipped - 85 lines]
> "I reckon the hounds will end up killing more cats than they will
> foxes."
Gee - 26 May 2004 05:16 GMT
> This is one of the reasons why people need to keep their cats indoors. I
> don't know what kind of incidents it will take before people get the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> and in the same neighborhood. I hope they catch the person responsible and
> do the same thing to him!

I sure second that!
Gee
Cat Protector - 26 May 2004 07:35 GMT
Well the news is now saying that the cat was found in a local park not to
far from where their human lives. The cat was partially skinned and found
underneath a pile of beer bottles and other trash. It is pretty sad when
this happens but maybe people will finally wake up and keep their cats
indoors or in the very least get them to use a leash and harness so their
cats can go outdoors and at the same time the humans know they are safe. I
feel bad for the cat's human but maybe people will wake up and heed the
advice many shelters have been crying out to the public by asking them to
keep them inside where they will be safe. When I saw this story today I
hugged my two cats.

Signature

Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs!
www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek

Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com


> I sure second that!
> Gee
nimue - 27 May 2004 03:45 GMT
>> This is one of the reasons why people need to keep their cats
>> indoors. I don't know what kind of incidents it will take before
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> I sure second that!
> Gee

Uh, was this in Tucson?  There is a notorious animal-killer who lives in
Tucson.  He has actually published books about it.  Let me know if it was
Tucson.

Signature

nimue

"If I had created  reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

Cat Protector - 27 May 2004 05:17 GMT
No. This latest act of cruelty happened in Peoria, AZ.

Signature

Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs!
www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek

Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com

> Uh, was this in Tucson?  There is a notorious animal-killer who lives in
> Tucson.  He has actually published books about it.  Let me know if it was
> Tucson.

Rate this thread:






 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2008 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.