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Cat Forum / General Topics / July 2003Toxicity of Roundup?
Has anyone here ever had any experience with a kitten being exposed to Roundup? One of the kittens that is outside had Roundup come in contact with his fur/skin last night. His lower half apparently fell into some ( that should not have been there!!!!). After 3 times of trying to wash it off - I managed to slosh him in some warm water. The little devil did a great job of ripping up my left arm.8-/ I've called the vet & the poison control & they decided since he seems to be okay today he should be fine. Last night his breathing sounded awful - he was in rough shape. It was obvious that he had ingested some through licking his fur. Any information would be appreciated. Kathy K.  Signaturehttp://showcase.netins.net/web/motherearthfathersky/ I would think it pretty toxic. I would also think that there isn't much you can do. I would check on his nervous system and kidneys as that is where toxics tend to cash in. Poor kitty! Not a good thing :( Keep us posted. > Has anyone here ever had any experience with a kitten being exposed to > Roundup? One of the kittens that is outside had Roundup come in contact with [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > -- > http://showcase.netins.net/web/motherearthfathersky/ > Has anyone here ever had any experience with a kitten being exposed to >Roundup? One of the kittens that is outside had Roundup come in contact with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >ingested some through licking his fur. Any information would be appreciated. > Kathy K. > Has anyone here ever had any experience with a kitten being exposed to >Roundup? One of the kittens that is outside had Roundup come in contact with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >ingested some through licking his fur. Any information would be appreciated. > Kathy K. Kkathy, I don't have the info. for Roundup, but I'd imagine it's a bad one, since it'll kill most everything. I think your kitty needs to see the vet for sure. Is there any way you can get some help to take him? I don't know how good this number is, but it is The Animal Poison Control Center for pets. They charge a fee on your credit card, though. Here it is: 1-800-548-2423. Please keep us posted. Good luck. Sherry http://www.alternatives2toxics.org/round.htm This has some info in it. Karen > > Has anyone here ever had any experience with a kitten being exposed to > >Roundup? One of the kittens that is outside had Roundup come in contact with [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Sherry > > Has anyone here ever had any experience with a kitten being exposed to > >Roundup? One of the kittens that is outside had Roundup come in contact with [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Sherry Sherry, I called that # & they charge $45.00. I simply don't have that kind of money. I wormed the kittens today & the little guy that was exposed to the Roundup seems to be spunky & friendly. He drinks water & has a good appetite. Tonight his breathing was rattling a little bit so I called the vet again. Once again he said not to worry about it. Since we farm we have had experience with Roundup - personally I don't trust *ANY* chemical. A few of you know my story & I will do all I can to take care of this kitten or any critter that is in need. I hope you will understand that. Thanks.....:-( Kathy K. > Sherry, > I called that # & they charge $45.00. I simply don't have that kind of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >any critter that is in need. I hope you will understand that. Thanks.....:-( > Kathy K. Good Lord. $45.00 is outrageous for a phone consultation. I'm sorry, Kath. I'd just seen that number and cut it out of a pet newsletter. I had never called it. Sherry > > Sherry, > > I called that # & they charge $45.00. I simply don't have that kind of [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Sherry I just about dropped the phone. I wonder if Ames (the Veterinarian School) would be of any help.... Kathy K. >> Sherry, >> I called that # & they charge $45.00. I simply don't have that kind of [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Sherry Y'know, when you consider what a HUGE selling product Roundup is and that the good will of people who buy it are at stake, in instances like this you think they would not charge. It's THEIR product after all. Karen >>> Has anyone here ever had any experience with a kitten being exposed to >>> Roundup? One of the kittens that is outside had Roundup come in contact [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > any critter that is in need. I hope you will understand that. Thanks.....:-( > Kathy K. From what we've read so far from links posted, the rattling breath does not seem to be what one would expect. Seems like enzyme function in the liver is more likely victim and that might be over time. I think I'd be tempted to wipe him down some more though to be safe. Karen >>>> Has anyone here ever had any experience with a kitten being exposed to >>>> Roundup? One of the kittens that is outside had Roundup come in contact [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >more likely victim and that might be over time. I think I'd be tempted to >wipe him down some more though to be safe. Roundup also contains isopropylamine, which is a known lachrymator and irritant of the mucous membranes and respiritory tract in humans - I speak from personal experience. I would make an educated guess his is causing the cats problems especially since the cat is going to have licked it's fur! The toxicity figures given would indicate that the cat would have to have eaten several grams of the active ingredient to be in serious problems from that - consuming that much is difficult to say the least. Absorption through the skin is not a concern, the solvent is not ideal and the glyphosate molecule is a little large to cross into the bloodstream easily. >Karen Signature79.84% of all statistics are made up on the spot. The other 42% are made up later on. In Warwick - looking at flat fields and that includes the castle. > >>>> Has anyone here ever had any experience with a kitten being exposed to > >>>> Roundup? One of the kittens that is outside had Roundup come in contact [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >wipe him down some more though to be safe. >> >Karen > Roundup also contains isopropylamine, which is a known lachrymator and > irritant of the mucous membranes and respiritory tract in humans - I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > ideal and the glyphosate molecule is a little large to cross into the > bloodstream easily. Hi Chris, Thanks for the information & I'm sure that you are correct. My house cat had a horrible reaction to a flea procuct & it was horrible. Fluid was running out of her nose & mouth (it was a clear sign that her mucous membrane was affected). I washed her off & called the vet (the same vet that I called this time...). He told me to wash her off, which I had already done, & that she should be fine, which she was. I absolutely *hate* chemicals! Kathy K. > Has anyone here ever had any experience with a kitten being exposed to >Roundup? One of the kittens that is outside had Roundup come in contact with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >ingested some through licking his fur. Any information would be appreciated. > Kathy K. Roundup's main ingredient to worry about is glyphosphate. IT will cause lung and skin sensitisation that could last for several months. IF my vet had given me "advice" like the above I would have reported the moron as they clearly know jack all about systemic pesticides. Without knowing more about dosage, strengths etc it's impossible to advise further. I doubt he will die, but he should be seen by a vet pronto - I suggest you find one that knows what they are talking about. I do hope he will be OK. Signature79.84% of all statistics are made up on the spot. The other 42% are made up later on. In Warwick - looking at flat fields and that includes the castle. > Has anyone here ever had any experience with a kitten being exposed to > Roundup? One of the kittens that is outside had Roundup come in contact with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > ingested some through licking his fur. Any information would be appreciated. > Kathy K. This would be of great concern to me. I have used Roundup in the lawn, and it is a systemic. If it were me, I think I would immediately shave the fur in the location where it came into contact with Roundup. It may be too late now, but that would be one way of making sure that he could not ingest it and that it would not be absorbed by the skin. Have you called the company that manufactures it? They may have some additional information. MaryL >> Has anyone here ever had any experience with a kitten being exposed to >> Roundup? One of the kittens that is outside had Roundup come in contact [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >and that it would not be absorbed by the skin. Have you called the company >that manufactures it? They may have some additional information. Monsanto make it from memory. I wouldn't trust them with a burnt out match regrettably. Looking through one of my suppliers, I find the following MSDS sheet for roundup http://www.nomix-chipman.co.uk/profess/material/MSDS/nomix%20systemic%20weedkill er.htm which may be of use for your vet. Note that it doesn't affect cholinesterase so it's no going to have neurological effects and also it doesn't bioaccumulate which is good news. >MaryL Signature79.84% of all statistics are made up on the spot. The other 42% are made up later on. In Warwick - looking at flat fields and that includes the castle. > > Has anyone here ever had any experience with a kitten being exposed to > > Roundup? One of the kittens that is outside had Roundup come in contact [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > MaryL Hi MaryL, The only way you would be able to shave him is to put him to sleep (believe me...). Roundup is highly water soluble & I did manage to get him into some water. I think a lot of it came off in the water. His fur is nice & fluffy & his skin looks fine so far. Kathy K. > Has anyone here ever had any experience with a kitten being exposed to >Roundup? One of the kittens that is outside had Roundup come in contact with [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >breathing sounded awful - he was in rough shape. It was obvious that he had >ingested some through licking his fur. Any information would be appreciated. Unfortunately, all you are likely to be able to find out about is the active ingredient, though the "inert" ingredients may well be what is causing the problem - the makers are not required to tell anyone anything about anything in the formula except the chemicals that do what the label claims the product does, for a weed killer, they only have to list the weed killing ingredient - the solvent could be deadly to mammals, but as long as the product is labeled as a plant killer, and that's all the active ingredient does, the maker doesn't have to warn about the solvent. On the other hand, if it were sold as a solvent, they would have to tell you everything about the solvent but would not have to identify the plant killer part. US law appears to be no worse than that of other countries (the above information applies to US federal regulations). T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body) >> Has anyone here ever had any experience with a kitten being exposed to >>Roundup? One of the kittens that is outside had Roundup come in contact with [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >and that's all the active ingredient does, the maker doesn't have to >warn about the solvent. Not entirely true, if the product is sold as a package they have to note the effect of the active ingredient and the delivery system on the environment should the delivery system have an adverse effect - usually found on the relevant MSDS sheet, I posted a link above. They don't have to identify the solvent though as you say. Looking at the structure of the molecule and running a few quick'n'dirty tests on some my neighbour had (in a squeeze-spray bottle) the solvent looks and behaves like an olefin/alkane hydrocarbon. My guess is it will be low grade paraffin or diesel oil. > On the other hand, if it were sold as a >solvent, they would have to tell you everything about the solvent but [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body) Signature79.84% of all statistics are made up on the spot. The other 42% are made up later on. In Warwick - looking at flat fields and that includes the castle. |
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