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Princess Pashie - 26 Apr 2004 16:29 GMT
One thing that I really can’t stand, is otherwise perfectly
normal people proudly informing me that they hate cats.   Am I
supposed to be impressed?   If you ask these people why, they will
tell you that cats are stupid.   These are the same people who like
small dogs, football, and sniggering at rude jokes.   Sometimes they
will tell you that cats are aggressive, i.e all teeth and claws.   I
myself have been attacked by a dog, and personally, I would take my
chances with the cat.   There are others still who will look horrified
if you mention the word ‘cat’ and say ‘oh! They kill
little furry animals!’   You would get a very odd look indeed if
you were to point out either that that’s what they need to do in
the wild, or that humans kill not only little furry things, but big
furry things, pets, and occasionally, people.

Someone please explain to me the real reason why these people
don’t like cats, because the reasons they give can’t be
the whole truth.
Gene Royer - 26 Apr 2004 16:47 GMT
> One thing that I really can’t stand, is otherwise perfectly
> normal people proudly informing me that they hate cats.   Am I
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> don’t like cats, because the reasons they give can’t be
> the whole truth.

I am personally offended when someone says "&#8216" in mixed
company--especially if my daughter and that &#8217 boyfriend of hers that
she met at that &#8219 meeting are present in the room.

Most people hate cats because they just don't &$%#8220 them and don't want
them inside the F#*ing  &%# house.

I love cats.  And that's the !$$#@&# truth.  And I care who the f#&k knows
it.

--Geno<having more fun than a &#8213;t should be allowed to have>Royer
Ted Davis - 27 Apr 2004 02:05 GMT
>> One thing that I really can&#8217;t stand, is otherwise perfectly
>> normal people proudly informing me that they hate cats.   Am I
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>company--especially if my daughter and that &#8217 boyfriend of hers that
>she met at that &#8219 meeting are present in the room.

Actually it makes almost perfect sense - I say almost because some of
the characters represented by the HTML entity codes are not
grammatically appropriate.  I don't see a meaning for &#8219, but I
don't have the entire ISO code list available.

"&#8217;" -- right single quotation mark
"&#8216;" -- left single quotation mark
T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body)
Cheryl - 27 Apr 2004 03:46 GMT
>> Someone please explain to me the real reason why these people
>> don&#8217;t like cats, because the reasons they give can&#8217;t be
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> --Geno<having more fun than a &#8213;t should be allowed to have>Royer

LO&#8219L

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Cheryl

Gee - 26 Apr 2004 18:48 GMT
I read a beautiful cat-saying somewhere on the net which I found more then
truthful:

BEWARE PEOPLE WHO DISLIKE CATS

It has been proven that most serial killers started their career as serial
animal killers. Police and FBI now wants to compile a database of any child
found to have been killing animals for the future record, which potentially
will escalate to killing humans. Those who really hate animals have no love
or respect for anything or anyone. Avoid those people. They have no heart.
If you see them hurting animal, report them to police/R/Aspca.

But do make a difference when someone says "I hate cats, but love dogs"
those people generally love animals, just never lived with a  cat. Those can
be proven their misfortune by introducing to a friendly feline. I did this
with few of my friends. Also people who are scared of animals generally do
not actually hate them, they are just weary of them so need more contact
with pets to kill the phobia. Those people are usually not bad either, they
just had a bad experience at some point in their life, like a bite or
scratch.

Gee
Agua Girl - 26 Apr 2004 22:26 GMT
People who hate cats were probably rats in a
previous life.  :-)

I say different strokes.  Doesn't bother me anymore
than someone who doesn't like chocolate.  Their
loss.

AG

> One thing that I really can&#8217;t stand, is otherwise perfectly
> normal people proudly informing me that they hate cats.   Am I
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> don&#8217;t like cats, because the reasons they give can&#8217;t be
> the whole truth.
Leigh Bain - 27 Apr 2004 04:16 GMT
> One thing that I really can&#8217;t stand, is otherwise perfectly
> normal people proudly informing me that they hate cats.   Am I
> supposed to be impressed?   If you ask these people why, they will
> tell you that cats are stupid.

I love telling these people that cats demand respect, dogs just give it
willy nilly. Usually shuts them up pretty quick. One person told me that
when he comes home his dog is there waiting to love on him and his cat
ignores him. I told him that's because the dog doesn't care who loves him, a
fish could love him and he'd be happy.  A cat you have to respect and he's
not doing that.
One of my bits starts out like this "If dogs are smarter than cats, then why
do we have to earn a cats respect?"  Just tell them that next time someone
tells you a dog is smarter.

>These are the same people who like
> small dogs, football, and sniggering at rude jokes.

I got a football bit I'll send ya and then you can have some more amunition
:)

> Sometimes they
> will tell you that cats are aggressive, i.e all teeth and claws.

My cat plays with biting and swiping but not to hurt it's just play. Yes
some cats are aggressive but if you do a good job they wont be.

> I
> myself have been attacked by a dog, and personally, I would take my
> chances with the cat.

Prolly because the cat is always smaller than a Bull Mastif right? ;)

> There are others still who will look horrified
> if you mention the word &#8216;cat&#8217; and say &#8216;oh! They kill
> little furry animals!&#8217;

My husband wasn't a cat person either until he brought home one for me and
then the second. Now he loves them.  The best way to combat people like that
is to tell them they'd think differently if it was their own animal.

> You would get a very odd look indeed if
> you were to point out either that that&#8217;s what they need to do in
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> don&#8217;t like cats, because the reasons they give can&#8217;t be
> the whole truth.

I think it's mainly they grew up with dogs and it's the whole stigma of "Dog
is man's best friend" more like slobbery best friend IMO. My husband still
wants a pug *wrinkles nose* but our cats are so frightened of dogs now I
don't think we'll ever be able to have a dog while their around.

Just my 2 cents
Scumball - 27 Apr 2004 09:38 GMT
Some people hate cats because they aren't dogs.
They hate them because cats seem to play on their social and psychological
insecurities and inadequacies.
They hate them because they are simplistic, petty-megalomaniacs who believe
that humans are superior to animals - so animals should defer to humans - in
the fashion of say, a dog.
They hate them for the same reason that they hate people whom they perceive
to be snobs.
They hate them because dogs are sycophantic towards them, so they don't feel
ostracized and stigmatised.
But they fail to see the irony of the fact that dogs are sycophantic to
EVERYONE.
In short, they hate cats because they can't lord it over them or get the
better of them.
Basically, cats simply make them feel like inadequates.

> One thing that I really can&#8217;t stand, is otherwise perfectly
> normal people proudly informing me that they hate cats.   Am I
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> don&#8217;t like cats, because the reasons they give can&#8217;t be
> the whole truth.
Gene Royer - 27 Apr 2004 10:51 GMT
> Some people hate cats because they aren't dogs.
> They hate them because cats seem to play on their social and psychological
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> better of them.
> Basically, cats simply make them feel like inadequates.

Let me coin a phrase:  Bullshit!

Some people hate cats for the same reason some people hate Dodge, or Ford,
or rock and roll, or c/w, or French cut green beans, or TV preaching, or
Hillary Clinton, or abortion doctors, and so forth and so on.  It is merely
a matter of personal preference.

If your assessment were true, then my reason for loving cats would be
opposite to those same reasons that you state.

I know for a fact that humans are superior to animals, and that animals must
defer to humans.  If you think differently, then hand your cat a can opener
and tell her to fix her own snack.  When she get's sick, tell her to drive
herself tot he vet.  You will find out very quickly who is superior and who
isn't.  Lordy, lordy.

I love my cats, but they don't make me feel any more adequate than do my
goldfish or the cucumber patch growing in the back yard.  And if their
perceived snobbery is supposed to be appealing, then I'm missing the thrill
of that virtue.

Most people who love cats are weird.  Look around you at your own cat-loving
friends and see if you don't admit that by-and-large they are a group of
utterly strange folks.  They are prolly all overweight or getting that way.
They seldom have people over because there's no place for visitors to sit
without getting cat hair on their clothing.  They spend more time grooming
the cats than they do combing their own hair.

There are exceptions:  Me for example.  I am a perfectly adjusted and
attractive male with an incredible physique, a beautiful wife, an upscale
home, a thriving profession and a housefull of snobbish and demanding cats
who can take me or leave me.

--Geno<thanks for letting me clear that up for you>Royer

> > One thing that I really can&#8217;t stand, is otherwise perfectly
> > normal people proudly informing me that they hate cats.   Am I
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> > don&#8217;t like cats, because the reasons they give can&#8217;t be
> > the whole truth.
Gee - 27 Apr 2004 14:47 GMT
> "Scumball" <scumball@btinternet.com> wrote in message

> > In short, they hate cats because they can't lord it over them or get the
> > better of them. Basically, cats simply make them feel like inadequates.
>
> Let me coin a phrase:  Bullshit!

Truth hurts doesn;t it. And you don't deal well with those who disagree with
you. We know we know...

> Some people hate cats for the same reason some people hate Dodge, or Ford,
> or rock and roll, or c/w, or French cut green beans, or TV preaching, or
> Hillary Clinton, or abortion doctors, and so forth and so on.  It is merely
> a matter of personal preference.

Just about the only statement you made I could see the sense in. It could
ALSO be a matter of taste/personal preference.

> I know for a fact that humans are superior to animals, and that animals must
> defer to humans.

OMG!!!!!!! You sound like Hitler! Did you never realize he was wrong?

> If you think differently, then hand your cat a can opener
> and tell her to fix her own snack.  When she get's sick, tell her to drive
> herself tot he vet.  You will find out very quickly who is superior and who
> isn't.  Lordy, lordy.

You are looking at things in human terms,and one sidedly. If you wanna be a
good politician, you have to be able to see things from BOTH sides of the
view. So, since you can;t catch a bird or a mouse with your bare hands does
that mean you are inferior to cats? Well judging by YOUR point of view, you
MUST BE! Get it? Lordy, lordy....

> I love my cats,

Love is NOT about thinking the loved one is inferior to you.

> Most people who love cats are weird.

Surely you are not.

> Look around you at your own cat-loving
> friends and see if you don't admit that by-and-large they are a group of
> utterly strange folks.  They are prolly all overweight or getting that way.
> They seldom have people over because there's no place for visitors to sit
> without getting cat hair on their clothing.  They spend more time grooming
> the cats than they do combing their own hair.

Where do you live? Jerry Springer type trailor park? Geno, I never heard so
much rubbish in one day. In UK, almost every household owns a cat or two. In
USA, probably half of households. So I'm guessing we are all weird,
overweight, strange and have constant Patti Labelle hairstyles... AS IF!
HELLO! Think before you speak! PLEASE!

> There are exceptions:  Me for example.  I am a perfectly adjusted and
> attractive male with an incredible physique, a beautiful wife, an upscale
> home, a thriving profession

Good for you. But trust me you are not an exception. In fact you are just a
drop in the ocean.

> and a housefull of snobbish and demanding cats who can take me or leave
me.

Aaah, so you do think cats are snobbish...

> --Geno<thanks for letting me clear that up for you>Royer
Gene Royer - 27 Apr 2004 17:12 GMT
> > "Scumball" <scumball@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> > --Geno<thanks for letting me clear that up for you>Royer

Well!  I've never been so insulted in all my life!

--Geno<leaving in a snit; but returning in a huff>Royer
Gee - 27 Apr 2004 17:20 GMT
> > > "Scumball" <scumball@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> >
[quoted text clipped - 76 lines]
> >
> > > and a housefull of snobbish and demanding cats who can take me or
leave me.

> > Aaah, so you do think cats are snobbish...
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> --Geno<leaving in a snit; but returning in a huff>Royer

Good. Then now you know how people feel when you are talking to them. Except
I do it with class.

Gee
Gene Royer - 27 Apr 2004 18:46 GMT
> > > > "Scumball" <scumball@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 99 lines]
>
> Gee

Yeah, like that silly message you posted about how to teach your cat to not
be afraid of cars.  That's a winner.  You've got class all right.

--Geno<whoop!>Royer
Gee - 27 Apr 2004 23:54 GMT
"Gene Royer" <Siregeno@Mindset.net> wrote in message

> > > Well!  I've never been so insulted in all my life!
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> --Geno<whoop!>Royer

There is absolutely NOTHING silly about that message. Your odd sense of
"humor"  seems to be playing with your mind. Which part of that messige you
DIDN'T understand, pls tell me so I can clarify it for you. You clearly need
help.

Gee
Gene Royer - 28 Apr 2004 01:50 GMT
> "Gene Royer" <Siregeno@Mindset.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Gee

Read the subject, you clueless ninny.  And tell me why you would want to
train a cat not to be afraid of cars.  That is indeed silly.

--Geno<Glad I could bring that to your attention>Royer
Gee - 29 Apr 2004 06:40 GMT
"Gene Royer" <Siregeno@Mindset.net> wrote in message

> > There is absolutely NOTHING silly about that message. Your odd sense of
> > "humor"  seems to be playing with your mind. Which part of that messige
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Read the subject, you clueless ninny.  And tell me why you would want to
> train a cat not to be afraid of cars.  That is indeed silly.

And you couldn't point out my TYPO in a humane and reasonable manner
becuase....
Honestly Geno. Had you used your brain and read the actual post you would've
understood it was a genuwine typo, and that I meant "how to train a cat TO
BE afraid of cars". The post was more then clear on what I want and need a
help with. Instead, you, as usual, resorted to abuse first, people
skillz...never. Well done, your mother must be soooo proud of you. <sigh>

Like I thought, you do need help. Happy to have clarified such simple typo
to you.

Gee

> --Geno<Glad I could bring that to your attention>Royer
Gene Royer - 29 Apr 2004 11:00 GMT
> "Gene Royer" <Siregeno@Mindset.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> > --Geno<Glad I could bring that to your attention>Royer

Because cats can't clearly communicate with spoken or written language, a
cat owner often resorts to mind reading in order to figure out what the
little creatures' intent is.  We expect more of humans.  However, if you
want me to try and read your mind and respond to it, you will have to bring
your writing up a notch.

--Geno<glad I could help you out on that>Royer
Gee - 29 Apr 2004 14:45 GMT
"Gene Royer" <Siregeno@Mindset.net> wrote in message

> Because cats can't clearly communicate with spoken or written language

Actually cats clearly communicate in verbal and non verbal "cat" language.
We humans just don't understand it.

>, a cat owner often resorts to mind reading in order to figure out what the
> little creatures' intent is.

Most owners who love their cats don't. We watch them and learn their
behavior and eventually figure out what they mean when they "talk" or behave
the certain way. Nothing to do with mind reading.

> We expect more of humans.  However, if you want me to try and read your
mind and respond to it, you will have to bring your writing up a notch.

If you can't understand such a simple typo, and you didn't bother reading my
post but jumped to conclusion and abuse straight away, then don't blame ME
for you having to "read my mind"! I have (2 REPEAT ONCE AGAIN 4 YA) clearly
explained every single detail in my post, so anyone with a pea sized brain
could've understood what I wanted and that my title was a simple typo.

But not you. You couldn't understand this sentence apparently (and instead,
apparently,  need to read my mind???): "I can;t keep Sparkie, so the only
other option is for me to train him how to NOT go on the road" !!!???!!!
Blimey, how hard was that to understand?????????

So yes, I can see how MY "writing needs to be brought up a notch" and how
you ARE in fact, superior to cats... AS IF!

Oh, and no, I don't think I want you to respond to me anymore. You know
nothing but insult and throw tantrums. I don't have time for that childish
behavior. If you want my attention, behave like a grown up. You are too old
for your tantrums. What is the point of hating me cos I disagreed with you
once? Can you not be a man enough and accept that other people can have
different opinions? Chill out Geno. I am the nicest person alive but don't
push me, cos you cannot get one over me by behaving like an annoyed 10 yr
old. You never gonna win with arguing like a child. Try arguing like an
adult instead. It shows more intelligence and maturity. Can you do that?

Gee
Gee - 27 Apr 2004 14:29 GMT
> Some people hate cats because they aren't dogs.
> They hate them because cats seem to play on their social and psychological
> insecurities and inadequacies.

> They hate them because they are simplistic, petty-megalomaniacs who believe
> that humans are superior to animals - so animals should defer to humans - in
> the fashion of say, a dog.

> In short, they hate cats because they can't lord it over them or get the
> better of them. Basically, cats simply make them feel like inadequates.

Cannot agree more. Superb explanations. And I believe tottally true,
(especially after reading Geno's reply).

I will save your post and keep it in my "cat stuff" folder where I keep any
important or good cat stuff.

Gee
Scumball - 27 Apr 2004 16:11 GMT
> > Some people hate cats because they aren't dogs.
> > They hate them because cats seem to play on their social and psychological
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> I will save your post and keep it in my "cat stuff" folder where I keep any
> important or good cat stuff.

Good.
You have my leave to use it at will .... hehe !
I've plonked Geno, because he seems like a moron.

> Gee
Gee - 27 Apr 2004 17:21 GMT
> > > In short, they hate cats because they can't lord it over them or get the
> > > better of them. Basically, cats simply make them feel like inadequates.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Good.
> You have my leave to use it at will .... hehe !

Thanks. I'm sure I will need it when coming across humans who need
educating.

> I've plonked Geno, because he seems like a moron.

He he. I know what you mean. It seems like he's gonna join Bob Brenchley
(killfiled) crew here as well, which is a shame becuase he did post some
decent replies in the past. He just doesn;t like anyone who differs with his
opinions and turns brenchley on him/her. Oh well some people just can;t
handle it.

Gee
Scumball - 27 Apr 2004 18:15 GMT
> > > > In short, they hate cats because they can't lord it over them or get
> the
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> decent replies in the past. He just doesn;t like anyone who differs with his
> opinions and turns brenchley on him/her.

Hehe .... turns Brenchley - a new (phrasal) verb for the OED !

Oh well some people just can;t
> handle it.
>
> Gee
Gee - 28 Apr 2004 00:41 GMT
"Scumball" <scumball@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:c6m4fg$mp1

He just doesn;t like anyone who differs with his opinions and turns
brenchley on him/her.

> Hehe .... turns Brenchley - a new (phrasal) verb for the OED !

He he, I also converted a famous saying to suit here, you might like:

"I don;t wanna speak ill of the killfiled...."

when I was describing who Brenchley is. That guy is just pure inspiration...
:)
Gene Royer - 27 Apr 2004 18:19 GMT
> > > > In short, they hate cats because they can't lord it over them or get
> the
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Gee

I wish you two women would stop insulting me.  It's terribly rude of you.
My feelings are deeply hurt and it may take me weeks to get over it.

In the meantime, I don't recall you disagreeing with me on anything.  I do,
however, remember disagreeing with you and that scumbag woman or wotever who
thinks that people hate cats because cats are superior.   What a crock that
is, eh?

Or was it you who said that cats are superior because they can catch mice?
Now that was funny, and you weren't even trying.

Hell, bats can catch mosquitoes on the fly.  Does that make them superior
also?

--Geno<still laughing about that one>Royer
Gee - 28 Apr 2004 00:05 GMT
"Gene Royer" <Siregeno@Mindset.net> wrote in message

> > > I've plonked Geno, because he seems like a moron.
> >
> > He he. I know what you mean. It seems like he's gonna join Bob Brenchley
> > (killfiled) crew here as well, which is a shame becuase he did post some
> > decent replies in the past. He just doesn;t like anyone who differs with
> his opinions and turns brenchley on him/her. Oh well some people just
can;t
> > handle it.
> >
> > Gee
>
> I wish you two women would stop insulting me.  It's terribly rude of you.
> My feelings are deeply hurt and it may take me weeks to get over it.

Now that WAS funny he he.

> In the meantime, I don't recall you disagreeing with me on anything.

It all started in the thread "New cats".

>I do, however, remember disagreeing with you and that scumbag woman or
wotever who
> thinks that people hate cats because cats are superior.   What a crock
that is, eh?

Crock? what does that mean? If it means "true" then I do agree with you.

> Or was it you who said that cats are superior because they can catch mice?
> Now that was funny, and you weren't even trying.

Perhaps you ought to reread that thread, cos you obviously not only
misconstruted the point but you are now misusing the misconstruted
information. But I'm happy to help you: I never said cats are superior cos
they can catch mice. I said you are not superior to cats. So simple.

> Hell, bats can catch mosquitoes on the fly.  Does that make them superior
also?

I'm biting my tongue very hard as not to say that in your case probably
does. Ooops, I didn't bite hard enough :) Sorry but you are asking for it.

Geno, get off your high horse, you are no better then any animal(or any
human for that matter) nor they are better then you. You have to respect
others if you want respect back. So chill and talk cats. If you disrespect
them here, you will get a lot of abuse and killfiling so really it's up to
you.

Gee
Gene Royer - 27 Apr 2004 17:23 GMT
> > > Some people hate cats because they aren't dogs.
> > > They hate them because cats seem to play on their social and
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> > Gee

You have insulted me again.  I'm so offended.  I bet you even put me in your
killfile like that other coward does.  Whazhername?  Geewhiz or something
like that.

--Geno<leaving in a snit but returning in a huff>Royer
Gee - 27 Apr 2004 17:59 GMT
"Gene Royer" <Siregeno@Mindset.net> wrote in message

> > I've plonked Geno, because he seems like a moron.
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> killfile like that other coward does.  Whazhername?  Geewhiz or something
> like that.

You know my name alright! Gee. And you are obviously scared of me, cos you
haven;t stopped your wanna be putdowns and name calling ever since I dared
to contradict your opinion. As for killfiles, its a form of execution not
cowardness. You put bad people in jail. You put bad posters in
cyberjail(killfile them) and ignore the lot. You want my attention? Behave
like a grown up. So simple.Otherwise be killfiled. I have no time to waste,
and you are about to cross the border. But i believe deep down that you do
love cats, hence me not killfiling you yet.And cats are what it counts here.

Gee
Gene Royer - 27 Apr 2004 18:29 GMT
> "Gene Royer" <Siregeno@Mindset.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Gee

You are right.  I am scared of you.  You're scary, and I'm afraid I will see
you in my dreams.  But please don't execute me because I need reforming.  I
promise to be good.  Just don't turn scumbag loose on me.

Just kidding, of course.  I don't give a flip if you killfile me because it
will be you who has most to lose.  After all, I have ten times the feline
knowledge as you, and you will miss a golden opportunity to increase your
wisdom in that area.

I, of course, will continue to post valuable information concerning cats
whether you and scumbag are present to witness it or not.  In fact, later
today I plan to inform the group's wisdom concerning breakthrough treatments
for stomatitis--something my Arnold has suffered with for five years.

--Geno
Gee - 28 Apr 2004 00:13 GMT
"Gene Royer" <Siregeno@Mindset.net> wrote in message

> You are right.  I am scared of you.  You're scary, and I'm afraid I will
see
> you in my dreams.  But please don't execute me because I need reforming.  I
> promise to be good.  Just don't turn scumbag loose on me.

Ok, since you asked so nicely.

> Just kidding, of course.

But of course.

>  I don't give a flip if you killfile me because it will be you who has
most to lose.

Oh this was funny as well. Your comedy is improving :)

> After all, I have ten times the feline knowledge as you, and you will miss
a golden opportunity to increase your wisdom in that area.

Like I said I did read some of your posts which showed you do have some good
info and love for cats. Hence me not killfiling you already. You just don;t
like me. But that's OK, I am not bothered, as long as we all help cats and
their humans.

> I, of course, will continue to post valuable information concerning cats
> whether you and scumbag are present to witness it or not.

That's fine, but you must understand that people here LOVE cats, and when
you say something like humans are superior to cats, many ppl will NOT
appreciate it. Also there is no need to insult people just beucase they
don;t agree with you. Finally you must show more consideration if you don;t
wanna be mistaken for Bob Brenchley.

In fact, later
> today I plan to inform the group's wisdom concerning breakthrough treatments
> for stomatitis--something my Arnold has suffered with for five years.

I'm sorry to hear that. Poor thing can;t have fun. I am sincere in hoping
that Arnold will get better. Looking forward to reading your post regarding
this matter.

> --Geno

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