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Cat Forum / General Topics / April 2004Hartz Flea&Tick Drops Plus
I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus and want to know if it's safe to use on my cats. I have used Advantage and Frontline in the past. Adam Personally, I wouldn't. Karen > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus and want to know if > it's safe to use on my cats. I have used Advantage and Frontline in the past. > > Adam >> I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus and >want to know if >> it's safe to use on my cats. I have used Advantage and Frontline in the >past. >> >> Adam Throw it in the trash. It's not worth the risk, IMO. You can probably do a google search on the product name, or even any phrase like "Hartz product kills cat" and come up with plenty of reasons to throw it away. Sherry Or, here's a thought, just an idea, call up your vet and ask him/her > >> I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus and > >want to know if [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sherry > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus and want to know if > it's safe to use on my cats. I have used Advantage and Frontline in the past. Personally, I wouldn't recommend it, there have been a lot of nasty stories connected with the products of this company. Advantage and Frontline are known and respected products and they work, I'd stick with them. Ivor > > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus > and want to know if [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Ivor Thanks everyone. It's in the garbage. Adam Good job! I have no clue why the company continues to produce flea products as I have heard nothing but bad about it. Advantage might be expensive but at least you have peace of mind that it won't kill your cat! JoJo > > > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus > > and want to know if [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Adam > Good job! I have no clue why the company continues to produce flea products > as I have heard nothing but bad about it. Advantage might be expensive but [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > > Adam I have a similar question about Zodiac drops. A lady (who is sick in a board and care home) left me with her cat and all kinds of cat care stuff. I presume Zodiac is in the same class as Hartz? Adam > I have a similar question about Zodiac drops. A lady (who is sick in a > board and care home) left me with her cat and all kinds of cat care > stuff. I presume Zodiac is in the same class as Hartz? Very safe presumption that. If you have them, get rid of them.  SignatureDennis Carr - ke6isf@spamcop.net | I may be out of my mind, http://www.dennis.furtopia.org | But I have more fun that way. ------------------------------------+------------------------------- While still snuggled in a 'spider hole', Dennis Carr <ke6isf@spamcop.net> scribbled: >> I have a similar question about Zodiac drops. A lady (who is sick in a >> board and care home) left me with her cat and all kinds of cat care >> stuff. I presume Zodiac is in the same class as Hartz? > >Very safe presumption that. If you have them, get rid of them. Very WRONG presumption. I've been using various Zodiac flea control products for about 20 years, and never had a problem with them. To reply by email, remove the XYZ. Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk. This sig censored by the Office of Home and Land Insecurity.... > I've been using various Zodiac flea control products for about 20 years, > and never had a problem with them. Then why, Bud, has every vet in my area lumped them with Hartz? SignatureDennis Carr - ke6isf@spamcop.net | I may be out of my mind, http://www.dennis.furtopia.org | But I have more fun that way. ------------------------------------+------------------------------- If Hartz and Zodiac were so bad that they were "killing" animals, then they wouldn't be on the market in america and they would have been sued some time ago. > > I've been using various Zodiac flea control products for about 20 years, > > and never had a problem with them. > > Then why, Bud, has every vet in my area lumped them with Hartz? While still snuggled in a 'spider hole', "Tina and Shane" <4kids2cats@charter.net> scribbled: >If Hartz and Zodiac were so bad that they were "killing" animals, then they >wouldn't be on the market in america and they would have been sued some time >ago. That's true enough, but doesn't answer the question in the original post.. [sorry, RR feed has been VERY bad recently, I never saw this reply before now] >> Dennis Carr >> Then why, Bud, has every vet in my area lumped them with Hartz? Well, Dennis, first off, I doubt you've surveyed EVERY Vet in your area, and second, I have no idea but I DO know that Zodiac is NOT Hartz, and maybe the Vets you have talked to about this just aren't well-informed. To reply by email, remove the XYZ. Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk. This sig censored by the Office of Home and Land Insecurity.... > If Hartz and Zodiac were so bad that they were "killing" animals, then they > wouldn't be on the market in america and they would have been sued some time > ago. Huh? Where do you get the idea that products that kill animals (or people for that matter) are not for sale in this country? Cigarrettes anyone? And yes, there is a class-action lawsuit against Hartz. SignatureVictor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com circa Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:52:02 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Tina and Shane (4kids2cats@charter.net) said, > If Hartz and Zodiac were so bad that they were "killing" animals, then they > wouldn't be on the market in america and they would have been sued some time > ago. You might want to do a little research before making the above statements. Hartz *has* been sued. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. ...AND they now put warnings on the product that are very vague and in such small print people don't bother to read them. SignatureThe ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)? http://www.geocities.com/the_magic_mood_jeep/ http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep > circa Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:52:02 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > Tina and Shane (4kids2cats@charter.net) said, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Laura > > > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus > > and want to know if [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Adam Stop pretending you're some nice guy. While you try to appear to care about your cats you have agreed with posts that advocate the extermination of all Palestinians just for having lived on lands Israelis want to seize. You are not some nice guy, you are a bigot that spreads ethnic hatred. > > > > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus > and want to know if [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > your cats you have agreed with posts that advocate the extermination of all > Palestinians They intentionally target women and children to murder for their own selfish ends. They are not worthy to belong to the family of mankind. They SHOULD be wiped out. They have it coming. I laughed and I danced in the STREET when Israel snuffed out these last two evil jew-hating leaders of palestinian islamic terror. I can't tell you how happy it makes a good person feel to see this kind of evil being wiped out. More power to Israel. Inter the palestinian cur dogs. Put them on reservations. March them into the sea. Grind their bones to make the bread. It matters not to me. Just so long as it's slow and painful. > just for having lived on lands Israelis want to seize. Jehovah God gave that land to the Jews. It was His covenent with them. The palestinians are spitting into the wind. Their plight is hopless. But, they are free to do as they please. Like the Bible says... "God make the wicked too... for punishment" > You are > not some nice guy, you are a bigot that spreads ethnic hatred. He is a REALIST. The palestinians confine and categorize their own selves as an ethnic blight. THEY label their own selves as subhuman. Don't blame us for noticing it. That IS their desire, is it not...? To be noticed? IBen G. > > > > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus > and want to know if [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > your cats you have agreed with posts that advocate the extermination of all > Palestinians They intentionally target women and children to murder for their own selfish ends. They are not worthy to belong to the family of mankind. They SHOULD be wiped out. They have it coming. I laughed and I danced in the STREET when Israel snuffed out these last two evil jew-hating leaders of palestinian islamic terror. I can't tell you how happy it makes a good person feel to see this kind of evil being wiped out. More power to Israel. Inter the palestinian cur dogs. Put them on reservations. March them into the sea. Grind their bones to make the bread. It matters not to me. Just so long as it's slow and painful. > just for having lived on lands Israelis want to seize. Jehovah God gave that land to the Jews. It was His covenent with them. The palestinians are spitting into the wind. Their plight is hopless. But, they are free to do as they please. Like the Bible says... "God made the wicked too... for punishment" > You are > not some nice guy, you are a bigot that spreads ethnic hatred. He is a REALIST. The palestinians confine and categorize their own selves as an ethnic blight. THEY label their own selves as subhuman. Don't blame us for noticing it. That IS their desire, is it not...? To be noticed? IBen G. > > > > > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus > > and want to know if [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > IBen G. There is just no way to put a good spin on your ethnic hatred. That your "God" gave you the right to take some piece of land and kill the inhabitants does not jive with international law. You are trying to defend an indefensible position. You are morally repugnant. Also please show me where Islam labels it's followers subhuman but not here, this is a a newsgroup for cat owners. > > "Professor" <vze3vvj2@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:<%i9hc.11406$eK3.2506@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>... [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > There is just no way to put a good spin on your ethnic hatred. The palestinians set the stage for their own ethnic stereotyping by their actions, as I specifically laid out above. We merely react to their actions. How much clearer can I make it for you? Re-read what I have written above and then address my points as I addressed yours: ONE AT A TIME. Otherwise, you loose your 'Bickering with IBen' privileges. IBen G. > The palestinians set the stage for their own ethnic stereotyping by > their actions, as I specifically laid out above. We merely react to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > IBen G. I'm never going to respond to this loser again. IBen Getiner's google history shows him to be a homophobic, anti-abortion, arab-hating, christian lunatic who appears to have no life purpose other than trolling. He proudly advocates the full declawing of cats and attacks anyone who disagrees with him. He is a Beatles fan, but they all killfiled him long ago for his far-right rantings. With views like his, it is no wonder he has no life outside of trolling usenet groups. *plonk* > > The palestinians set the stage for their own ethnic stereotyping by > > their actions, as I specifically laid out above. We merely react to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > IBen G. What the Professor says... > I'm never going to respond to this loser again. What the professor really means... > Gee.. I'm in a pickle. This guy kicks a.s and he's got me by the ears. > Next thing you know, everybody in here will know that I don't have any balls. > Better think of something fast... What the Professor says... > IBen Getiner's Google > history shows him to be a homophobic, anti-abortion, arab-hating, christian > lunatic who appears to have no life purpose other than trolling. What the professor really means... > I went to Google to try and find a weakness that I could use against him, > but what I found is that this guy is MAJOR trouble. He takes the hard line on > all the vile and evil things that I love and support. His posting history > indicates that he takes no prisoners. I'll just label him a TROLL and maybe > that'll help me save face. > Think it'll work...? What the Professor says... > He proudly > advocates the full declawing of cats and attacks anyone who disagrees with > him. What the professor really means... > He knows the truth about my kind of thinker.. > That we secretly worship and emulate lawless, anarchy and disorder, and we > extend this thinking right down to out pets. He can see what the others can't > see and tells us like it really is. I sure do hope he GOES AWAY soon. He > could really blow the whistle on the whole scene here and elsewhere. What the Professor says... > He is a Beatles fan, but they all killfiled him long ago for his > far-right rantings. What the professor really means... > This Getiner guy goes right into the heart of liberal La-La-Land and lays > down the law and they all run away! I'd better LIE about him in order to > paint a better picture over my own cowardly a.s. Maybe the limp-dicked social > butterflies in here will buy it. Yeah! They will. Been fooling them in here > for years. What the Professor says... > With views like his, it is no wonder he has no life > outside of trolling usenet groups. > *plonk* What the professor really means... > I shake my fist at you, you dirty do-gooder! You dirty lover of righteousness > and good! Look what you've done to my beautiful uglyness! > You win this time, But I'll be back! I'll be back! > > > The palestinians set the stage for their own ethnic stereotyping by > > > their actions, as I specifically laid out above. We merely react to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > I'm never going to respond to this loser again. <ROTFLMFAO>!!!!! Well put Iben!! Professor sux cox!! Keep up the good work Iben!! :-) (I love reading your posts, they make me run and rape my husband everytime I read them) *thinking of you* Tina (the real one at yahoo not the fake at rogers) > What the professor really means... > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > and good! Look what you've done to my beautiful uglyness! > > You win this time, But I'll be back! I'll be back! > What the Professor says... > > I'm never going to respond to this loser again. > What the professor really means... > > Gee.. I'm in a pickle. This guy kicks a.s and he's got me by the ears. You're a laugh riot, IBenGetinschitzo. The only a.s being kicked is yours. Regularly. Ask around. [...] > What the Professor says... >> IBen Getiner's Google >> history shows him to be a homophobic, anti-abortion, arab-hating, >>christian lunatic who appears to have no life purpose other than trolling. The Professor has you pegged, LabRatt. Google ain't your friend. I might add to Professor's list that you're also a coward, a moron, and a deeply disturbed loser who clearly has no home life.<shudders at the mere thought of IBen's "home"...> And what's up with the endless flurries of hateful 4am posts, IBenGetinNone? I'll bet even your cats despise you. Sucks to be you (which, of course, is why you have so many sockpuppets). Always willing to enlighten, LC "Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity."~Frank Leahy >IBenJonYoung's delusional rantings mercifully snipped< > > > > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus > and want to know if [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Palestinians just for having lived on lands Israelis want to seize. You are > not some nice guy, you are a bigot that spreads ethnic hatred. You can't be the real Professor, the real Professor has a brain and you apparently do not! So therefore you must be a troll..hehe......KILLFILED!!!! Gee > > > > > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus > > and want to know if [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Gee Look up the newsgroup archive. I've been here for years, and you won't be missed. > > > > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus > > > and want to know if [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Palestinians just for having lived on lands Israelis want to seize. You are > not some nice guy, you are a bigot that spreads ethnic hatred. You insist on bringing politics to a cat newsgroup but are too coward to debate this on soc.culture.israel. If you want to defend your terror friends do it on the appropriate news group. Am Israel Chai. Adam > Stop pretending you're some nice guy. While you try to appear to care about Would you two idiots take your argument elsewhere? SignatureVictor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com Really...what does this have to do with cats??? > > Stop pretending you're some nice guy. While you try to appear to care about > > Would you two idiots take your argument elsewhere? > > Stop pretending you're some nice guy. While you try to appear to care about > > Would you two idiots take your argument elsewhere? Don't group me with him. I posted about cats not politics. Adam > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus and > want to know if it's safe to use on my cats. I have used Advantage and > Frontline in the past. > > Adam makes a nice garnish with fried feline > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus > and want to know if it's safe to use on my cats. HELL NO! http://www.hartzvictims.org SignatureDennis Carr - ke6isf@spamcop.net | I may be out of my mind, http://www.dennis.furtopia.org | But I have more fun that way. ------------------------------------+------------------------------- > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus and want to know if > it's safe to use on my cats. I have used Advantage and Frontline in the past. Throw the Hartz crap in the garbage (or return it for a refund) and go buy a decent medication instead. SignatureVictor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus and want to know if > it's safe to use on my cats. I have used Advantage and Frontline in the past. > > Adam Never had a problem with any Hartz product, Adam. Some of the best I've used, as a matter of fact. That's been my experience. IBen G. > > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus and want to know if > > it's safe to use on my cats. I have used Advantage and Frontline in the past. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Never had a problem with any Hartz product, Adam. Some of the best > I've used, as a matter of fact. That's been my experience. Assuming you're not a troll, you must be the only one then. Ivor > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus and want to know if > it's safe to use on my cats. I have used Advantage and Frontline in the past. > > Adam Although my cats haven't had problems with Hartz, better to stick with Advantage or Frontline (have you had problems with them that's why you're going to try Hartz?). Too many people have reported their cats having problems with Hartz. > > I acquired a package of Hartz Advanced Care 4in 1 Flea&Tick Drops plus and want to know if > > it's safe to use on my cats. I have used Advantage and Frontline in the past. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > you're going to try Hartz?). Too many people have reported their cats > having problems with Hartz. The only reason I ask about Hartz and Zodiac is this stuff was left for me and I hate to waste, but given the answers and what I saw on Google I shall throw these out. Adam
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