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Leslie M. - 18 Apr 2004 18:08 GMT
Does anyone have a suggestion on how to get a cat to stop urinating in a
favorite spot on the carpet? Punishing her is a logical answer, but it does
not seem to work.
M.C. Mullen - 18 Apr 2004 18:22 GMT
| Does anyone have a suggestion on how to get a cat to stop urinating in a
| favorite spot on the carpet? Punishing her is a logical answer, but it does
| not seem to work.

In my pet shop they sell something called 'stop cats'!
It must have a rotten smell to put cats off.
In the meantime you can try vinegar :-)

Carola
Lowell - 18 Apr 2004 18:49 GMT
Block it.  I had a cat who kept pooping on one spot, so I blocked off that
spot by putting an upside down cardboard box over it and he went back to
using the litter box exclusively.

> Does anyone have a suggestion on how to get a cat to stop urinating in a
> favorite spot on the carpet? Punishing her is a logical answer, but it does
> not seem to work.
Judy - 18 Apr 2004 18:58 GMT
> Does anyone have a suggestion on how to get a cat to stop urinating in a
> favorite spot on the carpet? Punishing her is a logical answer, but it does
> not seem to work.

Sorry, but punishing her is not a logical answer. Inappropriate urination is
usually a result of a medical problem such as UTI or a behavioural one. A
medical problem should always be ruled out first. If it's not a medical
problem, then you'll have to take some time to figure out why this is
happening. Have there been any changes in the routine in your household?
Have there been any physical changes or additions that may not have a
negative effect on you, but may have on your cat?

I suggest you take her to the vet and then go from there.

Good luck!

Judy
Gee - 18 Apr 2004 19:13 GMT
> Does anyone have a suggestion on how to get a cat to stop urinating in a
> favorite spot on the carpet? Punishing her is a logical answer, but it does
> not seem to work.

Punishing an animal never works. Just like punishing a human never
works.Only makes them hate you, resent you, and eventually leave you.
Becuase punishment is a form of abuse and not a training method. Please
don;t punish your cats. There are better way to deal with things.

As for urinating there are ways to deal with this. I will repost a mesage I
tend to post a lot on various cat forums:

1. Take a cat to a vet for a medical check up to rule out any medical causes
of urinating.

2. As for solution, you gonna need to think like a cat. Cats are clean
animals. However if they do choose certain spots for urinating, they will
keep going back there for a wee. However cats will not wee near the food.
So, if I was you, I'd first isolate the cats in couple of rooms till they
get back to using the tray. I's also buy a second litter tray and place it
in the spots they are using the most. The other places need thorough
cleaning .

3.Cleaning: Although you have probably cleaned the spots up to yours cratch,
cats as we all know
have sence of smell beyond our comprehension. To them they probably still
smell like a toilet, only
a tad milder. Clean every used area with some biological washing powder
first, or some speicalised
shampoo that contains enzymes which would munch up the parts of urin. We are
talking serious
scrubbing here, becuase even though we can;t smell it, cats, believe, can.
After this has been done,
take vinegar (in color matching your carpets/flooring/bedding :) )-
probably clear malt one would be the best.
Yes that stinks, but it works wonders as cats hate that smell, which is what
you really want, to divert them from using this spot again. I am not certain
if it also nutralises the urin in some way as well or not, but you must
definitly put the vinegar on the spot. If possibly let the carpet dry.
Perhaps speed up drying with some hairdryer treatment. Lastly, when dry, you
could use some Downy fabric conditioner to kill any residual smell left.
This one is for you really. When all dries out, put some dry cat food on
that area(even rub a few in the carpet/flooring). Cats are clean animals and
wont wee/poo near food. I know this works as my friends done it
on their cat/carpet. Alternativly, move the litter tray on that area.

4.Oh and make sure the regular tray is kept clean as some cats like my
Shadow will rather hold it in for a day/do it elsewhere, then do it in -what
they
consider- dirty tray. Some cats are just fussy.

5.If you happen to catch them doing it, yell NO then quickly pick them up
and put them IN the litter tray and speak gently prasing them. Even give
them a treat if they do it correctly. Never ever punish a cat in any way,
cos punishing is effectively abuse and furthermore, cat will only associatte
your punishment with something that it is doing RIGHT NOW and not something
that may have happened 5 hours ago. You don;t speak cat language so you
can;t explain to her/him that punishment is for the urin they left on the
carpet earlier, can you.

Gee & Cat co
Leslie M. - 18 Apr 2004 22:25 GMT
Sounds like really good advice.  Thank you.

> > Does anyone have a suggestion on how to get a cat to stop urinating in a
> > favorite spot on the carpet? Punishing her is a logical answer, but it
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> Gee & Cat co
Kelly - 19 Apr 2004 17:52 GMT
My kitty was doing the same thing. I cleaned the spot with a cleaner, then
covered the area with white vinegar, and placed a small tray of dry food
there (they won't relieve themselves where they eat). She didn't go there
afterwards.

> Sounds like really good advice.  Thank you.
Tina and Shane - 20 Apr 2004 20:27 GMT
I'm going to say I dissagree with the punishing never works.  There are
different forms of punishment, not necesarily hitting or striking them.  You
can use a water bottle and squirt them.  And with humans, you can ground a
child, or as the do, lock up an adult in prison.  I worked in an animal
shelter for a few years.  I seen dogs and cats both that were beaten bloody
but still loved the person who did it and would die trying to save them.
Animals love unconditionally...part of why we love them so much I think.
> My kitty was doing the same thing. I cleaned the spot with a cleaner, then
> covered the area with white vinegar, and placed a small tray of dry food
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Gee - 21 Apr 2004 03:16 GMT
> I'm going to say I dissagree with the punishing never works.  There are
> different forms of punishment, not necesarily hitting or striking them.  You
> can use a water bottle and squirt them.

That may work but only if you do it AS they do whatever you consider wrong.
If they go we on your bed at 2pm, then you squirt them at 6pm when you get
home from work, they will NOT associate the squirting with weeing, but what
current action they are doing, which could be cuddling up to you. You don't;
want your cat to think that is wrong. So watering can is not really
"punishment", but a training method which doesn't in any way harm anyone,and
is ONLY used to correct a present mistake,by creating a negative association
with a present action.

>And with humans, you can ground a
> child, or as the do, lock up an adult in prison.

It may be so, but how many children you know that didn;t resent a parent for
grounding, and gone out through the window while grounded; or how many
adults you know who came out of prison to become a better person? As far as
I know, once in prison, a person will only become worse once it gets out,
and for no other reason, because they can;t get a job cos of the record so
have to continue the wrong way. I strongly agree with locking away the bad
guys, don;t get me wrong, I just don;t think that prisons and grounding
teaches them the right lesson. I can go elaborate on the subject for hours,
which I don't; have, but I believe strongly in positive associatiations,
rather then negative, for either animals or humans. Having goals, rewards
and appreciation always works miracles.

> I worked in an animal
> shelter for a few years.  I seen dogs and cats both that were beaten bloody
> but still loved the person who did it and would die trying to save them.
> Animals love unconditionally...part of why we love them so much I think.

I believe that to be true with dogs. Dogs Gods are their humans, and no
matter how they treat them, they will still be their Gods. As for the cats,
as far as I have read, seen and heard, cats, if they are not happy, will
leave and find a new home, or go astray, rather then put up with any abuse.
This is actually the first time I heard anyone say that cats will stay
despite it, which surprises me, but as I have no personal experience with
the thing like that, I would like to hear more about your and other people's
opinions/experience on this subject.

Gee
Lowell - 22 Apr 2004 18:08 GMT
> > Does anyone have a suggestion on how to get a cat to stop urinating in a
> > favorite spot on the carpet? Punishing her is a logical answer, but it
> does
> > not seem to work.
>
> Punishing an animal never works.

I don't know.  When I let my cat in the bedroom at night and he's not quiet,
I put him out.  He seems to be grasping the concept that he has to be quiet
to stay in.

He likes to jump up on tables and things and I am now trying to guilt him
into quitting.  I say "Will you please get down?  I give you everything I
want, I do everything you want, I play with you all the time, and all I ask
in return is for you to stay off the tables!"  Sometimes he jumps down.

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