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Costs for shots/altering?

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muffin - 19 Apr 2004 04:55 GMT
For a kitten that was obtained privately and has NOT  had all the shots,
checkups and altering, what can one expect to pay to have that done.?  If I
adopt through a shelter I pay them $70-100 and the kitten as everything done
or payed for already.  So I was wondering about the cost for this
alternative.

Also, do the humane societies offer these initial shots and nuetering etc ?
If so is it much less then the local vet?

Any insight appreciated
Thank you
Sherry - 19 Apr 2004 05:08 GMT
>For a kitten that was obtained privately and has NOT  had all the shots,
>checkups and altering, what can one expect to pay to have that done.?  If I
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>Any insight appreciated
>Thank you

Of course vet prices vary wildly, but just as an example, I took a stray in
recently: Vacccinations + feline leukemia test + worming + cursory exam, $110.
A month later, I had her spayed, which was an additional $50.
Generally speaking, you usually get a better deal adopting through the humane
society.
Our humane society does use a low-cost spay/neuter/vaccination clinic, which
anyone can use. But many humane societies have in-house vets, and their own
spay/neuter/vaccination programs that are also available to the public. You can
probably find out what's available in your area by just picking up the phone,
and calling your area societies/shelters. If you aren't sure where to find
them, any vet should be able to direct you. .
Good luck.
Sherry
Agua Girl - 19 Apr 2004 06:46 GMT
> For a kitten that was obtained privately and has NOT  had all the shots,
> checkups and altering, what can one expect to pay to have that done.?  If I
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> Also, do the humane societies offer these initial shots and nuetering etc ?
> If so is it much less then the local vet?

I mentioned this before, how I considered keeping one of the
kittens the stray I took in had.  For me to take her to my
vet, get the initial shots exam etc and pay for a spay it was going
to cost 130.  To adopt one from the local rescue group costs 80-90.
This for a kitten that has had it's first round and been spayed along
with a cert to get the second round, a coupon for a bag of food :-)
It was cheaper to turn the kittens over to a rescue group than adopt
them back <G>.  They administer the shots themselves, get a big
price break on spaying and neutering because they are a not for
profit org., get donations from Actors and Others for Animals to
help cover the costs etc.   The can do it cheaper than I can and if
I give them my money it also helps save the next kitten.  I don't know about
shelters and they all vary widely.  It runs anywhere from 50 -120 in this
area but they only adopt out altered animals so it's still cheaper than
the local vet.

AG
Nan - 19 Apr 2004 13:45 GMT
>For a kitten that was obtained privately and has NOT  had all the shots,
>checkups and altering, what can one expect to pay to have that done.?  If I
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>Any insight appreciated
>Thank you

It cost me $154.00 to have Tortie spayed and all the shots which is
one of the reasons that her 6 babies haven't been spayed/neutered yet.

Nan
Ted Davis - 19 Apr 2004 14:43 GMT
>For a kitten that was obtained privately and has NOT  had all the shots,
>checkups and altering, what can one expect to pay to have that done.?  If I
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>
>Any insight appreciated

A bit of insight about usenet practicies: it is *extremely* poor
etiquite to separately post essentially the same message to a large
number of groups.  It's not only wasteful because you get similar
responses from people who have no way of knowing that someone has
already posted the material, but it is also wasteful of your time
because you not only have to go to a number of places, but you have to
read the similar postings.  Of course when someone posts a reply in
the first group he/she reads and then, upon reading other groups,
discovers that similar answers have already been posted by others,
he/she is not likely to look favorably on providing any more
assistance to you.

It is better - it is considered poor practice, but not *extremely*
poor practice - to cross post to the groups.  Cross posting allows
everybody to see all the responses, but since one group is usually
enough, and often clearly the preferred one, it is still wasteful and
annoying.  Sometimes it is appropriate to post to multiple groups but
to set the replies to go to a single group - that reduces the
annoyance from seeing the same messages everywhere one goes, but has
it's own annoynace due to the chosen group being one that the single
person with the best possible information on the question doesn't read
or isn't carried by his/her ISP.

Best practice is to post to the single group that, based on your
reading of the existing messages and an observation that the group is
sufficently active, appears to be the one most likely to fit the
topic.  If the message can better be addressed in anouther group,
someone will suggest the better group and you can repost there.

T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu)
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Sherry - 19 Apr 2004 14:54 GMT
>It is better - it is considered poor practice, but not *extremely*
>poor practice - to cross post to the groups.  Cross posting allows
>everybody to see all the responses, but since one group is usually
>enough, and often clearly the preferred one, it is still wastefu

AOL does not allow the poster to cross-post. I don't see a problem with posing
a question to a few different cat groups. After all, some posters don't
frequent all the groups, so it is a somewhat different audience.

Sherry
Ted Davis - 20 Apr 2004 02:46 GMT
>>It is better - it is considered poor practice, but not *extremely*
>>poor practice - to cross post to the groups.  Cross posting allows
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>a question to a few different cat groups. After all, some posters don't
>frequent all the groups, so it is a somewhat different audience.

There is a *reason* AOL doesn't allow cross posting.  Separate posting
can't readily be blocked, so their non-blocking of it can't be taken
as an endorsement: it's still worse.  AOL want's its users to post one
message to one group, and at least wait for responses before posting
elsewhere - at least since that is the time tested best approach, one
can assume that is what they want.  Since each message posted consumes
some tens of megabytes of disk space on servers, and more than that on
individual systems if a lot of people read it, plus the bandwidth
required to pass it around to thousands of servers, and cross posting
doesn't (it consumes space for the header for each group, but only one
copy of the message per server), cross posting is obviously much less
of a burden than multiple posting.  The only thing less burdensome as
well as less annoying than cross posting, is single posting to a
single group.  Cross posting and multiple posting are akin to spam in
their impact, they just may not have the commercial content of real
spam.  news is an extremely inefficient service, and we either have to
pay for it (one way or another) or lose it, so it behooves us to at
least try to avoid consuming any more resources than we have to.

OT - Fleagor just came in - he's been gone almost a week.  He looks
sleek and well fed (I'll wager that there are a lot fewer frogs in my
field than there were a week ago).  I was hoping the oncoming rain
would bring him back in.  Snowball is still not home, but she's been
gone only a couple of days, and she goes farther away to hunt - she
usually doesn't quite make it home before getting wet and the radar
shows that the rain may miss us by a few miles anyway, but there is
plenty of thunder.

T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig in the body)
Cheryl - 20 Apr 2004 02:55 GMT
> There is a *reason* AOL doesn't allow cross posting.  Separate posting
> can't readily be blocked, so their non-blocking of it can't be taken
> as an endorsement: it's still worse.  AOL want's its users to post one
> message to one group, and at least wait for responses before posting
> elsewhere -

A group I used to read had some fun with an AOLer by setting the followup
to non-existant groups and he couldn't change it.  He found a way.  It was
pretty funny.

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Sherry - 20 Apr 2004 03:21 GMT
>There is a *reason* AOL doesn't allow cross posting.  Separate posting
>can't readily be blocked, so their non-blocking of it can't be taken
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>pay for it (one way or another) or lose it, so it behooves us to at
>least try to avoid consuming any more resources than we have to.

I understand. Personally I find crossposting annoying because I read several
cat groups, and you have to plow through the same posts repeatedly. OTOH, if I
had a valid medical question and wanted several points of view, I might post to
the veterinary group and also health & behavior, since they are frequented by a
(mostly) totally different group of people.

>OT - Fleagor just came in - he's been gone almost a week.  He looks
>sleek and well fed (I'll wager that there are a lot fewer frogs in my
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>shows that the rain may miss us by a few miles anyway, but there is
>plenty of thunder.

LOL, it's springtime and wanderlust has set in. Fleagor always did sound like a
ramblin' kind of cat. We lost our dachshund last week, and the cats are
spending more and more time outside these days.   Bootsie killed / beheaded a
gopher and left it on the porch. Didn't eat a bite of it. I'm not sure if it's
a gift or a message.

Sherry

>T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu - e-mail must contain "T.E.D." or my .sig
>in the body)
Ted Davis - 20 Apr 2004 14:32 GMT
>>OT - Fleagor just came in - he's been gone almost a week.  He looks
>>sleek and well fed (I'll wager that there are a lot fewer frogs in my
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>gopher and left it on the porch. Didn't eat a bite of it. I'm not sure if it's
>a gift or a message.

It turned into a horrible night.  Fleagor was a non-problem: after
demanding and getting a lot of petting and grooming (he has medium
lenght hair and it was in surprisingly good condition for shedding
season), he took over the window shelf in the kitchen (window was
open) and spent the night there.  Snowball came in wet, as expected -
I stayed up an extra half hour to let here and Mudpie (also came in
wet) dry off a bit before they began tramping all over me and my bed
with wet and muddy feet.  Almost as soon as I did go to be, Mudpie
attacked Snowball - they were bouncing off the walls as M chased S
around the bedroom and up and over all the furniture.  S cleaned off
the closet shelf in passing.  The cats kept me awake another hour and
a half - when they did settle down, a beetle started bouncing off
everything in the bedroon that rattled or resonated: the metal blinds,
the glass lamp globes, the mirror, etc.  Eventually I got up got a can
of bug spray - when I got back, one of the cats was trying to tear out
the blind on one of the windows trying to get at the bug.  After
killing the bug, I finally got to sleep.

This morning I found piles of debris all over the house: everything
that could be knocked off tables, shelves, etc. was knocked off/over.
Then I discovered that someone had made a cat sized hole in the screen
for the open front window.  I closed the window and went to work.  Now
I'm having trouble staying awake, and later today, about the time the
storm is supposed to get here, I have to carry a fragile instrument to
a building at the top of the campus hill ... probably in heavy rain -
I don't have a parking permit for any lot near there, so I'll have to
walk, and I'll need two hands for the instrument (prototype) and at
least one for the umbrella.  Can I just start the week over?

T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu)
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spenzdad - 19 Apr 2004 20:50 GMT
yea dweeb....go take a chill pill......and cut down on the coffee...kay?

> >For a kitten that was obtained privately and has NOT  had all the shots,
> >checkups and altering, what can one expect to pay to have that done.?  If I
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> SPAM filter: Messages to this address *must* contain "T.E.D."
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Tina and Shane - 20 Apr 2004 18:29 GMT
In michigan the average cost depends on male/female cats.  For a female you
will pay $110-150, depending on the quality of the vet you go to (some do a
butch job on stitches.), for a male...anywhere from $60-$75 for the neuter
and another $25 for the first set of shots after the spay or neuter.  But
males cost less because there is less involved in their healing processes.
Females involve cutting open the stomach and surgically removing the
reproductive organs, males are (pardon the statement) a snip and a clip
away.  No stitches in males also.
> For a kitten that was obtained privately and has NOT  had all the shots,
> checkups and altering, what can one expect to pay to have that done.?  If I
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> Any insight appreciated
> Thank you

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