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Christine Geary - 26 Mar 2005 23:28 GMT
I would like to know about coaxing a feral cat into our house.  Right now,
my mom and I have 3 indoor cats, 2 males and a female; they're all fixed.
Recently another cat has been coming around every now and then and one of
our male cats notices it.  Every time I go to the door to try to coax the
cat inside, it runs away; I think it's just scared of people.  BTW, our 3
cats were abandoned and I think feral that we rescued and kept.

Any help is appreciated; thanks in advance.

Christine
wwwolf - 27 Mar 2005 02:30 GMT
> I would like to know about coaxing a feral cat into our house.  Right now,
> my mom and I have 3 indoor cats, 2 males and a female; they're all fixed.
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>
> Christine

I've had first-hand experience with this. I've been able to tame 3 completly
feral cats. It takes 2-3 months. You make a particular call "like a wistle or
unique sound" when you see the cat. Try to work out a schedule every day and
place some mackeral by your front door. Make more of your unique sounds and
then go back inside. This will be a challenge, but after a while the cat will
start to tolerate you. (you can look at my magnificence but DON'T touch me).
This will eventually be followed by acceptance (OK, if you MUST touch me, I'll
tolerate it because it's you). Eventually they will consider you as the
mamma-tat and start rubbing against your leg. You can then start feeding them
in the doorway.

It has worked for me every time but it DOES take patience and consistency.

HTH,
Larry Caligan - 30 Mar 2005 13:03 GMT
We have been taming a feral kitten,and we started off by feeding it when we
fed the other cats. One of our cats lives outdoors so when we called him to
eat the kitten soon recognized when feeding time was. Little by little it
began to trust us and I soon was able to catch it and put it in a cage(
mind you this is a kitten) and now she is living in the den and is nearly
tame, she doesn't run away and really likes to cuddle. But you must be
patient. Food is the key. LarryC
medusa - 10 Apr 2005 21:16 GMT
> I would like to know about coaxing a feral cat into our house.  Right now,
> my mom and I have 3 indoor cats, 2 males and a female; they're all fixed.
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>
> Christine

I caught and tamed a feral pregnant female. I have 3 indoor-outdoor
formerly male cats and noticed them hanging around a black cat who was
hanging around a full male cat. He disappeared and she stayed around my
cats, eating the leftover cat food I was putting out on the deck to
entice her. When I noticed she had suddenly porked out, I realized she
was pregnant and caught her with cat food in a cage with a string tied
to the door which I pulled shut from inside the house (she ran whenever
I came out). I didn't want her having her kittens outside. I brought her
in cage and all and after she saw how my cats were fed, watered and
pooped, let her run around inside the house. She eventually figured out
I wasn't fattening her up for dinner. Took her to the vet and he said
"very pregnant" and she had her kittens that night. Took them all to the
vet after a few weeks for testing and they were all healthy. Found homes
for the kitties, kept mom and had her fixed. She is the sweetest thing.
She still isn't totally comfortable with me but loves to be petted and
brushed. She won't sit on my lap or rub my legs.

Have patience, feed it and you should be able to have a new friend.
My stray now comes and goes with the others and calls our house home.
CMT525@webtv.net - 16 Apr 2005 19:13 GMT
Do not bring another cat into your house unless you have had it tested
and vaccinated against the 2 feline leukemias.
some call the 2nd one feline aids.  These conditions are very contagious
to otherwise healthy cats.

                                               
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Ron Herfurth - 18 Apr 2005 13:21 GMT
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> Do not bring another cat into your house unless you have had it tested
> and vaccinated against the 2 feline leukemias.
> some call the 2nd one feline aids.  These conditions are very contagious
> to otherwise healthy cats.

There's only one feline leukemia (FeLV) and yes, it is contagious but there
is a vaccine. Feline Aids (FIV) has nothing to do with leukemia and is not
contagious at all. I understand that the only way it can be transmitted
between adult cats is if a healthy cat bites an FIV + cat.

ron
CMT525@webtv.net - 18 Apr 2005 20:33 GMT
Feline Aids is a term most of the vets I've spoken to do not use.  They
say it is misleading.  Yes it is spread by body fluids, but cats do bite
other cats who invade their territory.  The only cat that

should not be vaccinated against feline "
AIDS" is a cat that never goes outside and is not around other cats.  I
may be new to your group but I have many cats, 2 insiders and 5-6
outsiders.  I have discussed this topic at length with their vet.  No
cat should ever be introduced to your cats unless the blood tests are
negative and the vaccinations are up to date.

I lost 2 cats to feline leukemia before the vaccine was available.  It
is not something anyone should have to go through.  The blood tests (2)
take a small amount of blood and you can get your results in less than
15 minutes.  I also have all of my animals vaccinated against rabies.
My vet said if the cats are outside at all they must have the
vaccination against Feline "AIDS".  If any disease can be prevented why
would you take the chance of not doing it?


Cat Lady of Navarre, FL

                                               
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Ron Herfurth - 19 Apr 2005 15:00 GMT
I'm not aware of a vaccine against Feline AIDs (FIV).

There is a vaccine against Feline leukemia (FeLV).

ron

> Feline Aids is a term most of the vets I've spoken to do not use.  They
> say it is misleading.  Yes it is spread by body fluids, but cats do bite
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CMT525@webtv.net - 19 Apr 2005 16:38 GMT
There is a vaccine against feline AIDS (FIV).  You may be confusing it
with FIP (feline infectious peritonitis).  This is another cat disease
that is 100% fatal.  Another reason I don't let my cats out of the
house.

Cat lady of Navarre, FL

                                               
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zuzu22@webtv.net - 24 Apr 2005 04:52 GMT
>There is a vaccine against feline AIDS
>(FIV)

And considering the risks there is no way in hell I would ever use it or
the leukemia vaccine. You need to stop talking to your vet and start
doing a lot of research. From:
http://www.littlebigcat.com/index.php?action=library&act=show&item=livingwithfiv

"There are two basic types of vaccines. Modified live vaccines (MLVs)
contain live virus particles that have been altered through various
techniques so that it is no longer infectious, but will still reproduce
itself in the animal. These vaccines generally produce long-lasting
immunity.

The feline distemper vaccine is an example of an MLV. The other major
type is the killed vaccine. Killed vaccines contain virus particles that
have been completely inactivated and cannot reproduce. In order to
produce sufficient antibodies, a variety of agents are added to the
vaccine to "stimulate" the immune system. These agents are called
"adjuvants." Certain adjuvants have been implicated as causing
vaccine-associated fibrosarcoma, a particularly malignant and
hard-to-treat type of cancer. Killed vaccines include the rabies and
feline leukemia vaccines. Both of these vaccines are known to cause
fibrosarcomas. The new FIV vaccine is a killed vaccine, means that it,
too, is likely to cause tumor formation.

The most dangerous problem with the FIV vaccine is that a vaccinated cat
will test positive for FIV on all currently available tests, even the
most sensitive ones. Also, because the vaccine protects less than 70% of
vaccinated cats (critics argue that the real number may be less than
50%), if a vaccinated cat becomes ill, there is no way of knowing
whether or not he actually has active FIV. The vaccine manufacturer
(Fort Dodge) admits that this is a problem, but says that, hopefully, in
the future, a test may be developed that can distinguish between a
vaccinated cat and an infected one. For now, if an FIV-vaccinated cat is
unfortunate enough to become lost and end up in a shelter that tests for
FIV, he will most likely be euthanized. Feline experts are not
recommending this vaccine for the vast majority of cats."

Megan

                                   
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CMT525@webtv.net - 26 Apr 2005 21:26 GMT
I would take my vets advice over someone I don't know on the internet
any day.  My 8 year old cat had stopped getting the vaccinations because
he was never around other cats and he is a strictly indoor cat.  Then
when we had to evacuate because of hurricane Ivan, we stayed with people
who also have a cat.  Afterwards I was informed that their cat has
feline leukemia.  My cat has never been vaccinated against feline aids.
The vet told me not to use that vaccine unless the cats were outside
where they could come in contact with other cats.

I just took a kitten to the vet yesterday, and because it appears that
she has recently given birth, the only vaccination she got was for
rabies.  That is a law in most states.  All my animals are vaccinated
against rabies.  She was tested for feline leukemia and aids.  The tests
were negative.  The only trouble is that a nursing cat cannot get any of
the other vaccines until the kittens are weaned.  The vet told me if I
can find the kittens they will take them at 8 weeks and put them in
their no kill adoption survice where they will all be sterilized and
tested then vaccinated.

I had 2 cats that died of feline leukemia before the vaccine was
invented.  The illness is nothing you would want any cat to go through.

Cat lady from Navarre, Fl

                                               
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