>>I found out that the traps are hi son in laws and he is a hunter. So I
>>have no idea, I called everywhere. 2 years ago I had to talk them out of
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Kay,
You have said, yet, what kind of traps this nut case is setting. Are
you sure thary are a "legal type"? (Such as the Have-a-Heart, live
catch traps.)
What kind of a "huinter" uses live catch traps anyway? He (the SIL)
sounds as nuts as the old man!
Since he has chained the trap to a post, sounds to me like he knows
he's doing something he shouldn't be doing. Have you spoken to any of
the Animals Rights groups about this nut? How about one of the animal
rescue organizations, like, say Alley Cats Allies or a local chapter of
that organization.
Animals do have rights here in the states, but we also have a severe
animal over population problem because some people let in tact animals
run free, or, worse yet, treat them like a disposable commodity. They
sinply turn the animal out when they grow tired of them. Pet
abandonment is a crime in most states. Enforcing the laws is the hard
part.
Last fall we had a young man take his anger out on some horse owned by
his neighbor, slashing many and actually killing one. Right before his
trial came up, his Lawyer plea bargined him down to a lesser charge
thus keeping him from going to a jury trial. A jury would have wanted
to hang him, literally! I know I wanted to!
I am wondering if there is anything you can do to the neighbor,
legally, to make his life as rough as he has made yours. Can one take
their neighbor to courst fro harassment and causing undo emotional
stress? Got any lawyer friends who can advise you on the possibilities
of a civil case against this jerk? That is now what the owner of the
horse has to do to get any justice and/or compensation for wrongful
death of their horse.
Rebecca
Kay - 16 Feb 2005 17:15 GMT
I identified the traps
http://www.livetrap.com
There is the link, its the single door traps. My advive that I was told,
was that I would have to relocate the coloney. Which is drastic, I would
have to have them kept in a cage for at least a month so they woul dnot
attempt to try and go "home" To have the fixed before then.
My husband woke me up at 3:00am, He caught Momma cat!!!!! He is taking
her to work and setting her up there. I called him later this morning
and the other guys want to help her also. Bless their hearts! I am going
to call my sister in law to see if we can relocate the remaining
siblings, unless if they get accepted in the shelter? I don't know which
one is better for them? The siblings played with toys with me. they
might be able to be adopted.
Thank God some positive news!
Kay
>>>I found out that the traps are hi son in laws and he is a hunter. So I
>>>have no idea, I called everywhere. 2 years ago I had to talk them out of
>>>shooting a possum.They set up new traps now.
I'm not actually from your country but if I had a neighbor did
something like this to me, well he'd be in a hospital by now.
>> You say the son is a 'hunter' ... well some hunter hunting feral cats?
>> People can fantasise all they want but I'd imagine that when those
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>>>and there is still the cat house, I wonder if they eat enough in my yard
>>>maybe they won't go in the trap?
I feed squirrels here where I stay and, again, if some
personality-disordered family with hunting fantasies told me to stop
feeding them ... well, again any such attempt at restricting MY rights
would not get far.
I sound angry and when I read this thread I was ... no, am.
>> Extreme behaviour calls for an extreme response. You might consider
>> paying some dollars to some local hard guys to sort this guy out. You
>> are tearful and under stress and there is no way someone like you who
>> cares about nature and the feral cat community should allow any
>> psychopathic pseudo-hunter to intrude into your life or the lives of
>> these cats.
Here in the UK we are meeting with some success in getting the
'hunting with dogs' crowd sorted out. If the government had shown more
gumption it would have been sorted years ago but things are moving in
the right direction.
Iain.H
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>Your country is far more advanced in animal rights. I don't why, maybe a
>larger percent of population cares about animals. I don't know. Does The
> UK have shelters that kill? Here if we adopt we have to sign a paper
>promising not to tlet the cat outside. Is it different in the UK. I
>thought I read somewhere that its quite the oppisite.
Yes, they say the British are animal lovers and I think, in the main,
it is true but there are still some tragic cases of animal cruelty
here.
The animal rescue I got my three from is a no-kill shelter but even
they find it hard to cope but do a very good job nonetheless. I wanted
to work with them as a volunteer but my job would make it difficult to
be consistent in such a role. I could foster but they need you to work
with them directly as a volunteer for awhile - which I can understand.
There are shelters which are kill and these are the ones the ones with
the highest public profiles in the UK.
>His trap is set up right now and he chained it to a pole so no one can
>steal it. He is useing catnip for bait. So I have put out catnip and
>plates of food to keep the cats from going over there.
Might be worth sneeking over late one night and spraying his trap area
HEAVILY and repeatedly with a cat repellant as well as all around the
outside boundary of their fence.
>There are a few people who feed near me and a few with shelters. I have
>warned them all.
Very wise!!!
>I hope to catch the last cat by tomorrow. There was an offer that if she
>is pregnant there is a place she can go to have her litter and the
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>that will treat her and give her shots, so thats good news. As long as
>he does not get her first.
Your neighbour sounds to be an immature fool. However would it be
possible to speak to the mother again to say what you intend to do and
thereby protect this potential mother cat?
I imagine the neighbours did not like the idea of a cat-rescue opening
up next door to them but they have no right to go in the extreme
direction that they have. If you demonstrate a willingness to
compromise while at the same time actively (but discretely) sabotaging
their trapping efforts it may result in a more neighbourly resolution.
>We set up a camera that so we can see when she goes in the shelter and
>have a door that is attached to a string that we can pull when she is in
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>peanuts. I am thinking of a "screamer"? it sense when they get near his
>yard to scare them away??
Yes, that sounds good. How does a screamer work? Some kind of motion
detector? How would you get that to work?
Iain.H
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Kay - 16 Feb 2005 17:23 GMT
Ohh that is a good idea about the repellent!!!! A scream is a motion
detecter that goes off with an alarm. They do have a small dog though.
He would probably set it off. I have to clearify something, The owner is
a woman in her 60s, the man in question is her boyfriend. He lives in
the house. He does not even like the dog, but she is crazy about the
dog. I love the dog, when my dogs were alive they loved him to.
The woman thinks the cats upset the dog. Reality is that he barks at
everything. Leaves falling anything her barks at. I had to remove a
garden decoration because the dog kept barking at it. He is 7 and has a
liver illiness, so I don't complain about the barking cause I love the
dog. when I talked to them, I said that your dogs health comes first and
if you have a problem with the cats and your dog I will move them
prompty. They said the dog will continue to bark anyway, and that its
not the cats fault. They promised to tell me if there was a problem.
Kay
Kay - 16 Feb 2005 17:38 GMT
> Ohh that is a good idea about the repellent!!!! A scream is a motion
> detecter that goes off with an alarm. They do have a small dog though.
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> Kay
My husband just called and the cat is not the Mother cat, the mother cat
has half a tail, so he is bringing the shelter back to try again today
and night:( they are still going to let this cat stay there also:)
Kay
Hemmaholic - 17 Feb 2005 13:05 GMT
Oops! This one is stall a feral cat though, right, and not someones
free-roaming pet? Best to check with other cat owning neighbors to
make sure you didn't accidentally get someone's pet.
Hemmaholic/Rebecca
Kay - 17 Feb 2005 20:48 GMT
> Oops! This one is stall a feral cat though, right, and not someones
> free-roaming pet? Best to check with other cat owning neighbors to
> make sure you didn't accidentally get someone's pet.
>
> Hemmaholic/Rebecca
Oh don't worry this on was a feral, Rich knows who he is. I call him
McCloud.
Kay
Cat Protector - 17 Feb 2005 04:48 GMT
It sounds to me like you have neighbors who care very little for others.
Maybe you can get the whole neighborhood to rally against them in regards to
the cat thing. I'd take feral cats over a barking dog any day.

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> Ohh that is a good idea about the repellent!!!! A scream is a motion
> detecter that goes off with an alarm. They do have a small dog though. He
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