I recently read an article about dogs who bite--writer said that most often
its because they are seperated from their mothers too early. Seems that its
mom who teaches them not to bite... my guess is that its the same with
cats....
> January 2005
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> do to extinguish the behavior. He is definitely worth the effort... He's
> the Crash Man.
I'm amazed that people would return a cat just because it bites. When
you say 'biting do you mean serious cutting bites or aggressively
playful nips?
I have three rescue cats and I love every one of them and the ones we
had before. Two of them BISCUIT & MAGI are 'biters', the other one
JADE is just too ladylike to engage in anything as rough as that.
Though I think she was probably part of a litter and was already
socialised before she came our way.
BISCUIT bites because it is part of her grooming ritual. She will lick
you for ages with her little sandpaper tongue and if you move before
she is done she will nip, sometimes even bite to stop you moving till
she's done. Thing is the bite is not really a bite. So it does not
bother me that much. If you tickle her tum then she will bite a little
harder but for BISCUIT this is play and she loves to play. Her nature
is a little skittish and she'll jump and run for cover at the first
unfamiliar sound or un expected movement. She is gradually calming
down but the emphasis is on the word 'gradually'.
MAGI is like a semi-feral and she will bite too but more aggressively
than BISCUIT does. But again she does not mark you that often and when
she does it's a small mark. I have no doubt that if MAGI wanted to
hurt you badly then she certainly could. She is fearless and scared
the sh.t out of the plumber when he tried to pat her. We told him she
was an anti-burglar attack-cat and he thought that was unusual but OK
... but we kept her out of his way.
But the thing is the biting is only mildly aggressive and with MAGI a
slow-bite. I let her do it to me and eventually she has come to
realise it has no real effect so she does not bother as much. She had
a tough start and has ongoing physical issue but she is also is coming
around in social terms quite well.
I just can't see the biting cats that have been referred to in cat
newsgroups, etc as being ripping and clawing cats. It may be that
prospective owners just need to know that it is a cat they are taking
on and if they give it time and acknowledgement a sometimes tragic
history then in time they will have a highly protective, loving and
loyal cuddle-bomb.
Iain
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>could do to extinguish the behavior. He is definitely worth the
>effort... He's the Crash Man.
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Tabetha Orr - 06 Feb 2005 20:54 GMT
Was the bitting viscous enough to have possibly had to put the cat down?
This seems crazy to me. Give me more information please. My cat is a
bitter but only because she has no claws. What are the dangers of getting
bitten by a cat? I am sure I need to know.
Tabetha
Sidney Trupkin - 07 Feb 2005 01:44 GMT
The biting was very bad. The people who adopted him had young children.
They tried for 4 months but decided Crash was too much of a danger. Which
he was.
In cases like this if the behavior cannot be modified one option is to put
the animal down.
We do go to great lengths to see that this does not happen to our rescued
cats.
Crash bit me several times on my face and arms when he first came back but
that did not mean we would just gave up on him.
When he came back to us (he was about 7 months old by this time) we used
the word "no" in a non-friendly... but not yelling voice. He responded to
this by stopping the behavior but he had usually already inflicted a
serious bite.
Using a spay bottle filled with plain water can also be useful.
Never allow a cat to bite you even if it's the "hand under the cover" kind
of play.
Cat bites should be taken seriously. Make sure you wash the wound with soap
and warm water.
Make sure your tetanus shots are current.
Always... if in doubt about the seriousness of the wound see a doctor.
Here are some web sites with information:
Bites - Human and animal
http://www.askdrsears.com/html/8/T084900.asp
Cat Bites
http://animalcontrol.co.la.ca.us/html/pages/petownerinfo/Catbite.htm
Animal Bites
http://www.vetmed.lsu.edu/animal_bites.htm#Which%20is%20worse,%20dog%
20bites%20or%20cat%20bites
Understanding Cat Aggression Towards People
http://www.ddfl.org/behavior/cathumag.htm
Sidney Trupkin - 07 Feb 2005 01:45 GMT
You're right about distinguishing between playful bites and aggressive
bites. Some people will get a kitten and play rough with it which makes the
kitten think biting is acceptable. When the kitten grows up and is still
biting it is no longer cute or acceptable... but the cat doesn't
understand. This type of situation is the owners fault but the cat is the
one who suffers.
Unfortunately, people are too often ignorant of the consequences of
inappropriate "people behavior".
Unfortunately for Crash he, too, was a victim of inappropriate "people
behavior". However, it wasn't the people who adopted him who were at fault.
It was my fault. My ignorance.
I should have either found a mama cat or some kittens to raise with him. I
don't know if it would have helped to have kept him longer. I allowed him
to go to his new home when he was 6 weeks old, soon after he had been
weaned. If I had kept him a few more weeks and allowed him to interact with
the other cats (our grown cats) maybe he would have learned his cat
manners. I have never been able to find any literature on the subject.
I've hand raised many kittens from just a few days old with no mama cat but
the situation has always been with at least 2 kittens (usually more). It
never occurred to me that there would be a problem with just raising one.
Again, people ignorance, my ignorance is at fault.
Crash's biting was not exactly what I would call aggression but it was
dangerous. When he would bite it always made serious cuts and he would
usually go for the face. It was more like when kittens interact and bite
each other.
Frequently his biting was sudden, kind of out of the blue. He'd be enjoying
being petted when he would suddenly turn, jump for the face, and inflict a
bad bite. It was behavior I had not seen before.
There is good news. It has been almost 2 months since he has bitten at all.
Let me modify that. He still plays with the other cats but if he plays too
rough and bites one of them he gets bitten in return. The bites never cause
wounds (except maybe to Crash's ego). They are very normal cat interactions.
A couple of times Crash has started to bite me but will quickly realize on
his own not to and stops himself before the teeth even touch skin. I find
this amazing.
As far as someone returning a cat or kitten to me, it happens for a variety
of reasons. I would rather the cat or kitten be returned than kept by
someone who doesn't want it.
When we have had a cat or kitten returned it has always had a wonderful
ending to the story. I just look at it as having to find the cat's true and
fated home. The same is true with Crash. We just have to keep looking but
we will find Crash's true and fated home, too.