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Stray kitten - feed or ignore?
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Ivanna - 11 Jun 2004 23:15 GMT Well I must first admit I've already been feeding it all week. It appeared very bony when I first started, but looks more like a normal kitten now.
My concern is that this may be a female and that she will be bringing me loads more kittens to feed if she is not fixed. (I am way allergic to cats and couldn't have even one in the house) She runs away on approach, but stays within sight if she expects I will put a bit of food out for her. Suggestions?
MaryL - 12 Jun 2004 00:18 GMT > Well I must first admit I've already been feeding it all week. It appeared > very bony when I first started, but looks more like a normal kitten now. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > stays within sight if she expects I will put a bit of food out for her. > Suggestions? Please trap the kitten and take her to a vet to be spayed and treated (as needed) for worms, ear mites, etc. Continue to feed the poor little thing. If at all possible, find someone who will adopt her and give her a good (indoor) home.
Thank you for accepting this little kitten into your life.
MaryL
Ivanna - 12 Jun 2004 07:17 GMT "MaryL"
> Please trap the kitten and take her to a vet to be spayed and treated (as > needed) for worms, ear mites, etc. Continue to feed the poor little thing. > If at all possible, find someone who will adopt her and give her a good > (indoor) home. I will do what I can. Thanks for the reply.
JoJo - 12 Jun 2004 02:21 GMT Call your local shelter - they may have a Have a Heart trap you can borrow, or tell you where you can borrow one. Even local vet's office may have one.
If you have a no-kill shelter near you, I would suggest contacting them about taking in kitten and finding it a home. Explain what you told us. More than likely they will take it in (although there may be a waiting list, they'll let you know). They will then give kitten physical, worm it, treat it, fix it and find it a home.
That is unless you wish to keep him, but I've got a thing about keeping cats outdoors, which I believe they are safer there - my opinion only. I understand not an option for you since you are allergic.
Good luck.
> Well I must first admit I've already been feeding it all week. It appeared > very bony when I first started, but looks more like a normal kitten now. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > stays within sight if she expects I will put a bit of food out for her. > Suggestions? Ivanna - 12 Jun 2004 07:16 GMT "JoJo"
> That is unless you wish to keep him, but I've got a thing about keeping cats > outdoors, which I believe they are safer there - my opinion only. I > understand not an option for you since you are allergic. I would love to have any pets, but unfortunately my allergies to kitties are pretty severe. I envy the people who can have any cat or dog they would like in their home. Thanks for the response JoJo.
Mary - 12 Jun 2004 03:31 GMT >Suggestions? I would trap her using a hav-a-hart trap. You can rent one from a hardware, feed store or animal shelter for $3-5. If she's a small kitten, you can just use a squirrel trap. Use stinky wet cat food for bait. This is what the trap looks like http://www.havahart.com/nuisance/cats/stray_cat_rescue_kit.htm You don't need the kit. Some vets spay feral cats for free. I would vaccinate her also. I would then contact some rescue groups to see if you can find her a home. If everyone is full you can at least give her a little cat igloo outside to sleep in and leave some food for her. Thanks so much for caring for her. You will be saving yourself a lot of headaches with tons of kittens showing up at your door.
Ivanna - 12 Jun 2004 07:15 GMT "Mary"...
> >Suggestions? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > will be saving yourself a lot of headaches with tons of kittens showing up at > your door. Ok, I will have to locate a trap, as all of you have suggested. I'm not sure if the kitten was dumped or if the mom was a stray. The kitten doesn't seem to trust people and runs into the woods at the back of our yard if anyone approaches. I just hope to catch the kitten and not the squirrels, chipmunks, and bunnies that are frolicking around the yard. TONS of kittens!?!
The nearby city has a humane society, but I believe that they kill animals that are not claimed. It would have no chance if they believe it is feral. If I catch it, I will find a no kill shelter or take it to the vet myself. I can't handle feeding it and then taking it in to put to sleep/death at the shelter. At least if it gets fixed, it won't produce more animals that are just out there starving, getting sick, and getting run over by cars. Thanks for the link to the "havahart" trap.
Rhonda - 12 Jun 2004 06:49 GMT Finding another home would be great, but if you can't -- there are many spay and release programs. You might contact a few animal groups and see what you can find out for your area. The Humane Society also may be able to give you some numbers.
I would keep feeding her, at any rate. I just can't stand to see a cat starve, and it sounds like you can't either!
Rhonda
> Well I must first admit I've already been feeding it all week. It appeared > very bony when I first started, but looks more like a normal kitten now. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > stays within sight if she expects I will put a bit of food out for her. > Suggestions? Ivanna - 12 Jun 2004 07:21 GMT "Rhonda"
> Finding another home would be great, but if you can't -- there are many > spay and release programs. So she would be spayed and then released back out to the wild or to me? I have never heard of that.
> I would keep feeding her, at any rate. I just can't stand to see a cat > starve, and it sounds like you can't either! Lol, I carried a caterpillery thing out of the house this morning rather than flush it! If she keeps visiting, she will be eating.
Rhonda - 12 Jun 2004 07:28 GMT Hello Ivanna,
The spay and release programs are for the homeless outdoor kitties. Usually the programs want to make sure someone is at least feeding the cat or cats, then they will trap them, spay them, then release them back outside in the same area.
They work with feral colonies, but some work with individuals like you with soft hearts. We're in the Seattle area, and there are a couple of groups that do it here.
Rhonda
PS -- I carry spiders outside in a glass!
> "Rhonda" > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Lol, I carried a caterpillery thing out of the house this morning rather > than flush it! If she keeps visiting, she will be eating. Hi Im WEEniE with My Fav4ite Midi - 14 Jun 2004 11:36 GMT Re: Stray kitten - feed or ignore? Group: rec.pets.cats.rescue Date: Sat, Jun 12, 2004, 6:21am (EDT+4) From: noone@invalid.com (Ivanna) "Rhonda" Finding another home would be great, but if you can't -- there are many spay and release programs. So she would be spayed and then released back out to the wild or to me? I have never heard of that. I would keep feeding her, at any rate. I just can't stand to see a cat starve, and it sounds like you can't either! Lol, I carried a caterpillery thing out of the house this morning rather than flush it! If she keeps visiting, she will be eating.
I live in West Springfield,Mass.There is this woman in the Spfld area who does just that. She does it legally by getting property owners permission to set some kind of houses up in their yard plus those safe traps.She has food put out or them too & what she does is get the cat fixed,wormed & shots & the cat end up with a tattoo marking on it's ear. Male cats would be brought back the next day but the female cats she will keep for a couple more days then do the same thing. But she only does ferrals.Of course it won't stop someone who can't afford to put their own cat inne of those traps to get a freebee done.Now would it?
Wendy - 14 Jun 2004 12:00 GMT "Hi Im WEEniE with MyFav4ite Midi" <Ahh_YEs_HaPPyTrailz_back_again@webtv.net> wrote in message news:13080-40CD7FB0-277@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net...
> Re: Stray kitten - feed or ignore? > > Group: rec.pets.cats.rescue Date: Sat, Jun 12, 2004, 6:21am (EDT+4) > From: noone@invalid.com (Ivanna) > "Rhonda" . But she only
> does ferrals.Of course it won't stop someone who can't afford to put > their own cat inne of those traps to get a freebee done.Now would it? Around here a cat owner would do that at their peril. If a trapped kitty seems to be friendly they trap, neuter and re-home.
W
Hi Im WEEniE with My Fav4ite Midi - 14 Jun 2004 16:17 GMT Re: Stray kitten - feed or ignore? Group: rec.pets.cats.rescue Date: Mon, Jun 14, 2004, 7:00am From: wendypart@nospam.com (Wendy) "Hi Im WEEniE with MyFav4ite Midi" <Ahh_YEs_HaPPyTrailz_back_again@webtv.net> wrote in message news:13080-40CD7FB0-277@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net... Re: Stray kitten - feed or ignore? Group: rec.pets.cats.rescue Date: Sat, Jun 12, 2004, 6:21am (EDT+4) From: noone@invalid.com (Ivanna) "Rhonda" But she only does ferrals.Of course it won't stop someone who can't afford to put their own cat in one of those traps to get a freebee done.Now would it? Around here a cat owner would do that at their peril. If a trapped kitty seems to be friendly they trap, neuter and re-home. W
I understand what you're saying. I have 5 cats ranging from 1 year old to a little over 10 years old.All indoors all fixed. I myself would even think of putting a house cat in with a ferral. But I know people would do it. People who live in my building have about 4 cats 3 males & 1 female plus 2 kittens male & female about 12 weeks old. All from the same family. They roam around & know the other cats so I know if the owner of those cats especially the male cats had the chance to put a couple of her males in one of those traps & then call this woman.She probably would do it. Now she has a pitbull that is fixed. This dog is so friendly even with cats & other dogs
JoJo - 13 Jun 2004 03:38 GMT Ivanna,
Don't know why I did not think of this earlier - go to www.spayusa.org - I believe they will give you links to shelters in your area that offer reduced fee spaying programs. They have something on main page, half way down called Pets911, type in your zip and it will tell you where you can get low cost spay/neuter.
Best of like and you're not alone - I would be feeding too! Although you got me on the bug - sorry no happy endings for bugs here - yuck! Creepy crawlies don't need to be seen :)
> Well I must first admit I've already been feeding it all week. It appeared > very bony when I first started, but looks more like a normal kitten now. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > stays within sight if she expects I will put a bit of food out for her. > Suggestions? Best advice would be to contact the local cat or animal welfare centre. They are fully trained to take in strays and rehome them properly.
> Well I must first admit I've already been feeding it all week. It appeared > very bony when I first started, but looks more like a normal kitten now. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > stays within sight if she expects I will put a bit of food out for her. > Suggestions? Tracy - 29 Jun 2004 04:49 GMT > Best advice would be to contact the local cat or animal welfare centre. > They are fully trained to take in strays and rehome them properly. Well, it depends where the OP lives. In the states, the local animal welfare center is often overwhelmed with cats and quite unable to deal with a frightened stray. If the cat shys with people, it may well be euthanized quite quickly if the OP lives in a town where animal welfare is not a high priority. I didn't catch where the OP lives, so perhaps this is all nonsense, but there are places in the US where it is really not a good idea to hand an animal over to the local shelter.
Sharon Talbert - 29 Jun 2004 21:46 GMT > Best advice would be to contact the local cat or animal welfare centre. > They are fully trained to take in strays and rehome them properly. Shy or feral "strays" rarely see the adoption room. Institutional shelters may keep the animal for a few days (depending on local laws) and then euthanize. "No-Kill" shelters simply won't take them.
Sharon Talbert Friends of Campus (feral) Cats
Tracy - 30 Jun 2004 05:03 GMT > Shy or feral "strays" rarely see the adoption room. Institutional > shelters may keep the animal for a few days (depending on local laws) and > then euthanize. "No-Kill" shelters simply won't take them. > > Sharon Talbert > Friends of Campus (feral) Cats It depends on the no-kill shelter. If it's a kitten, as this one is, some no-kill shelters will take them. Some won't, of course :<
Sharon Talbert - 30 Jun 2004 22:06 GMT > It depends on the no-kill shelter. If it's a kitten, as this one is, > some no-kill shelters will take them. Some won't, of course :< It is true that some nonprofit shelters (I really don't like the term non-kill, which is undefined at best and misleading at worst) will take underage kittens or unsocialized small kittens into foster care if they have such a program. Some conventional (city and county) shelters will take such kittens into foster care for that matter, City of Seattle among them. I seem to recall the kitten in question was at least a juvenile, though. The nonprofits won't take an older kitten because they have a choice, and the conventional shelters take them because they must and then euthanize.
Sharon Talbert Friends of Campus Cats
Ron Herfurth - 01 Jul 2004 14:38 GMT > > Best advice would be to contact the local cat or animal welfare centre. > > They are fully trained to take in strays and rehome them properly. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Sharon Talbert > Friends of Campus (feral) Cats But some rescuers will take them home to be indoor ferals. It's quit the one way street where the rescuer provides shelter, food, medical care, and a long comfortable life free from want and harm, in exchange for hissing, growling, aloofness, and a total lack of anything even vaugely resembling gratitude.
Don't knock it till you've tried it. Ron
Sharon Talbert - 02 Jul 2004 20:20 GMT > But some rescuers will take them home to be indoor ferals. It's quit the one > way street where the rescuer provides shelter, food, medical care, and a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Don't knock it till you've tried it. Ron, if you are suggesting that I take home feral kittens, I've not only tried it, I've modeled my life around it!
In my message, I was responding to a suggestion that a feral kitten be taken to a shelter. The point of my message was that an unsocialized cat or kitten is not a likely candidate for a shelter. The city/county shelters accept them and euthanize, while the nonprofits (so-called "no-kills") simply won't take them.
Sharon Talbert Friends of Campus (feral) Cats Seattle
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