Cat Forum / Rescue / February 2004
Please help the mystery cat
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Lotte - 19 Feb 2004 03:26 GMT Please take a minute to look at
http://www.io.com/~minerva/mrx.html
This darling boy needs a good home, somewhere perhaps where he could live safely outdoors (away from busy roads and other threats), due to his relaxed bowel & bladder habits. He's a wonderful cat, and I am at the end of my money and can't take care of him properly. Please pass the word along to anyone you know who might be able to help. Best Friends in Utah is full, but has graciously offered to send out his information on their network. I have been contacting local rescue groups but none of them (so far) has a place for someone with his special needs.
Thanks for your help -- LV
Cat Protector - 19 Feb 2004 09:20 GMT If he is such a special cat to you then why suggest he be an outdoor cat? Also, if you are so broke and can't care for him then how come you have money for Internet access?
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> Please take a minute to look at > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Thanks for your help -- LV Willows - 19 Feb 2004 10:52 GMT > If he is such a special cat to you then why suggest he be an outdoor cat? That statement makes not sense.
> Also, if you are so broke and can't care for him then how come you have > money for Internet access? Oh come on, spending a fortune on vets bills and having that time to care for a special cat can't be compared with the cost of internet access.
Obviously this is a very special person who has done this much for him already and probably homes strays often but a cat with these troubles is certainly difficult to home. Well done on his rescue I hope you find a him the home he deserves.
Cat Protector - 19 Feb 2004 17:34 GMT It makes perfect sense. Cats live much longer being indoor felines than outdoor ones. If they were outdoors then they could get into fights with other cats, encounter humans who would do them harm, be susceptable to predators, get hit by cars, and the list goes on.
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> > > If he is such a special cat to you then why suggest he be an outdoor cat? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > certainly difficult to home. Well done on his rescue I hope you find a > him the home he deserves. equalizer - 19 Feb 2004 23:37 GMT >If he is such a special cat to you then why suggest he be an outdoor cat? >Also, if you are so broke and can't care for him then how come you have >money for Internet access? Says the moron who can't take care of two stray cats hanging around his apartment, yet who has the money for a "Radio Station for Cats".
equalizer - 19 Feb 2004 23:49 GMT >If he is such a special cat to you then why suggest he be an outdoor cat? >Also, if you are so broke and can't care for him then how come you have >money for Internet access? Lotte, what you're doing is amazing and beyond commendable. Please don't take Cat Protector seriously -- he's the official Village Idiot of rec.pets.cats.health+behav -- with alarming regularity he makes asinine statements with no forethought whatsoever. Do a Google search of his posting history and all will become crystal clear.
I hope you find a home for your kitty.
eq
Cat Protector - 19 Feb 2004 09:25 GMT I checked the Web Site and have to wonder if he is so special, then why do you wish to exchange him for a healthy cat if you are so short on money? You also have a cat back guarentee on him as well. I hope he does find a good home. It looks like he deserves a second chance.
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> Please take a minute to look at > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Thanks for your help -- LV Sherry - 20 Feb 2004 00:38 GMT >I checked the Web Site and have to wonder if he is so special, then why do >you wish to exchange him for a healthy cat if you are so short on money? You >also have a cat back guarentee on him as well. I hope he does find a good >home. It looks like he deserves a second chance. If I understand correctly, she doesn't wish to "exchange" him for a healthy cat. Rescue people have X amount of slots available for rescues. She has offered to free up one of those slots by taking a "healthy, adoptable" cat to make room for her special needs cat. It sounds like she is desperately trying to create a space in this world for this cat with less-than-desirable health issues. She has already specified her requirements on the outdoor issue--which are reasonable by far. To the OP: Good luck with your kitty. Bless you for helping him. I shudder to think where he'd be if you hadn't taken him in. Sherry
Lotte - 20 Feb 2004 00:51 GMT In answer to all the questions:
"Outdoor" issue -- since he's incontinent, I think demanding that he be kept indoors will limit his chances of finding a good home. I have seen a lot of creative outdoor enclosures for cats, as well as outdoor situations that are safe for cats. In the ideal world, I'd love for him to live with someone who would keep him indoors at all times, but I realize that in his case it's going to have to be a compromise between ideal situations and reality. As I said on the website, I'm not going to give him to someone who's going to let him roam around on busy roads, and I am ONLY open to him living outdoors provided it's a safe situation. I know that by living outdoors, even in a "safe" situation, he will be exposed to dangers, but I have to balance that with his situation -- I would not like to see him live his life out in a 24 X 36 kennel, which would really have to be the case if someone were going to keep him in their house at all times. Now, if someone wanted to dedicate a "cat room" in their house, and commit to cleaning it, that might be an interesting idea. I have also seen old outbuildings converted to cat-houses, and it's even possible to build cat-proof fences for the really dedicated.
On the "why don't you keep him" issue -- I would love to keep him, but I have 3 other cats (all indoor-only, in our 700 SF house), one of whom is elderly with extensive health issues, and I simply cannot take on another one without their care suffering. I owe them the best care I can give them, and my funds, attention span and energy are limited. Again, in an ideal world, I would have endless resources, and none of this would be an issue, but, sadly, that is not the reality. I have already spent over $700 on his rescue, which is more than I have spent on my other cats this year all together. I haven't had a full night's sleep since I rescued him, and my other cats are already showing signs of stress and anxiety from not getting enough of my attention. It's a tough decision, but, for me, it's the right one.
Thanks everyone for reading and posting. I will let you know how things turn out --
Lotte
Cat Protector - 20 Feb 2004 03:04 GMT I see no logic to your thinking. How is keeping an outside cat going to increase their chances of a good home? What if the cat encounters being hit by a car or a human that would want to do them harm? Also, what about getting in a fight with another cat? You never said whether this cat has claws or not? Also, what if the cat he encounters has FELV, FIV? There are no cures for those two illnesses.
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> In answer to all the questions: > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Lotte equalizer - 20 Feb 2004 03:08 GMT >I see no logic. Fan - 20 Feb 2004 07:27 GMT >>I see no logic. Priceless
Lotte - 20 Feb 2004 07:09 GMT > I see no logic to your thinking. How is keeping an outside cat going to > increase their chances of a good home? What if the cat encounters being hit > by a car or a human that would want to do them harm? Also, what about > getting in a fight with another cat? You never said whether this cat has > claws or not? Also, what if the cat he encounters has FELV, FIV? There are > no cures for those two illnesses. CP, after reading your posts, I realized I hadn't made my position on the indoor/outdoor issue clear, so I updated the webpage. My idea is that he could live outdoors if he were kept in an enclosure or cat-proof-fenced yard. I am not suggesting that he be allowed to free-roam, although I'm willing to consider it in an absolutely perfect situation (small Carribean island?).
My logic is, the more flexible I am in the situations I'm willing to adopt him to, the more likely he is to find a home. If I were to say, for instance, that I will absolutely not adopt him anywhere but to a palatial estate with a luxurious cat suite, his chances of being adopted drop to practically zero. I'm willing to compromise so that he can have a less-than-perfect life, as opposed to no life at all.
If you're interested in taking him, please let me know.
Thanks -- Lotte
Alison - 21 Feb 2004 14:03 GMT Well done for trying to help this cat . I don't live in the US and in the UK it's normal for cats to be let out. I think you're doing the best you can for the cat in a difficult situation. I hope you manage to find the cat the home you want . Good luck. Alison
> In answer to all the questions: > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Lotte Lotte - 20 Feb 2004 00:58 GMT Oh, I forgot to answer one of the other questions -- I'm willing to exchange him for a healthy cat, because I have a family that wanted to take him, but could not because of his condition, and they suggested I "swap" him and they would adopt whoever I swapped him for. I did something similar with an FELV-positive feral I trapped a year or so ago -- FELV-positive kitty went to a shelter with a colony of other FELV-positive cats, and I ended up keeping the "swap-ee" who is even now demanding his dinner -- LV
m. L. Briggs - 21 Feb 2004 23:30 GMT >Please take a minute to look at > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Thanks for your help -- LV This is just a thought about Best Friends. I get frequent mailings from them saying they never turn down a needy animal. Perhaps if it were suggested that some donations would come in from animal lovers who are followers of the newsgroups, they might be persuaded to do some "shifting" to make room for this needy cat. I don't want to be misunderstood, because they perform a valuable service. However, from time to time they adopt out an animal and thus could find a spot for "Mystery". Does any of this make sense?
Sharon Talbert - 23 Feb 2004 22:10 GMT > This is just a thought about Best Friends. I get frequent mailings > from them saying they never turn down a needy animal. Perhaps if it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > could find a spot for "Mystery". > Does any of this make sense? I admire and support Best Friends but wonder that they claim to never turn away a needy animal. Surely they have no choice but to turn down MOST of the animals brought to their attention -- like any "no-kill" shelter they are always full, with requests for admission far exceeding adoptions.
Mind you, this is NOT meant in criticism of Best Friends, which is one of my favorite nonprofits. They are one of the few organizations that speak out for the welfare of feral cats and even take in a few in their fraidy cat sanctuary.
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Lotte - 23 Feb 2004 23:24 GMT > This is just a thought about Best Friends. I get frequent mailings > from them saying they never turn down a needy animal. Perhaps if it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > could find a spot for "Mystery". > Does any of this make sense? M.L. -- Best Friends has sent out a notice to their network members within my state, and I've gotten a couple of responses. I'm going to wait a bit to see if any of them pan out, and if they don't, then I'll ask B.F. to send notices out to all the states. If THAT doesn't pan out, then I'll start wheeling and dealing. This might sound weird, but I've been considering writing my will to leave my estate to a rescue organization -- I don't have any kids, so I can't imagine a better place for it to go. Not like it's going to be a huge amount of money or anything, once they pay off all my debts and vet bills, har har! Anyway, thanks for the suggestions, I'll keep it in mind if things get down to the wire. I'll keep the group posted on what happens -- Lotte
Sherry - 24 Feb 2004 04:25 GMT This might sound weird,
>but I've been considering writing my will to leave my estate to a >rescue organization -- I don't have any kids, so I can't imagine a >better place for it to go. I think that's a *great* idea. I know people who have not only done that, but have left trust funds to provide for their own cats' care should it be needed.
Sherry
mooninpappa - 25 Feb 2004 00:22 GMT I have already spent over $700 on his rescue!
Goodness me! Where do live old duck? As you are a star, and a whole some good and kind person. I'll send you a few quid to ease the expenses a little. Seriously.
Cat Protector - 25 Feb 2004 04:00 GMT I wonder if the local media might be interested in doing a story on this cat?
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> I have already spent over $700 on his rescue! > > Goodness me! > Where do live old duck? > As you are a star, and a whole some good and kind person. > I'll send you a few quid to ease the expenses a little. Seriously. fan - 25 Feb 2004 18:23 GMT >I wonder if the local media might be interested in doing a story on this >cat? Excellent idea CP.
Lotte - 26 Feb 2004 05:29 GMT > I have already spent over $700 on his rescue! > > Goodness me! > Where do live old duck? > As you are a star, and a whole some good and kind person. > I'll send you a few quid to ease the expenses a little. Seriously. Wow! I'm amazed that you'd offer to help me, someone you don't even know. How generous of you. I'm very touched -- I could use the money, but I just can't accept, knowing that (probably all of) you are likely spending your funds on helping your own rescues. I will make ends meet somehow... hopefully this little fellow will find a home before I'm completely broke. Bless you for offering!
Sharon Talbert - 25 Feb 2004 21:12 GMT I hope Best Friends comes through for you. I know they will if they can; it is just not always possible.
I wonder whether they have a room for cats with catitudes...I have one whose latest passion is tipping over the ribbit dishes full of water. She has ruined the hardwood floor in the bedroom. We have to make sure all the water dishes are in the shower when Vixen pays a call upstairs.
Sharon Talbert Friends of Campus Cats
Sherry - 26 Feb 2004 13:46 GMT >I wonder whether they have a room for cats with catitudes...I have one >whose latest passion is tipping over the ribbit dishes full of water. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Sharon Talbert >Friends of Campus Cats But, Sharon, those are the cats that are most personable!! I am "catsitting" right now for a young cat who is absolutely hell on wheels. He's a MESS. Scales the door facings, jumps straight up in the air & flips for *no reason*. Never walks--he just tears through the house like a bat outta hell. He walks around with perpetual "puffy tail'' and that sideways stance. I admit I'll be glad when his "daddy" picks him up. But it's been fun and really made me aware how *different* their own little personalities are.
Sherry <--- Wondering if there's a kitty-version of ADHD?
Sharon Talbert - 26 Feb 2004 20:55 GMT Actually, I was joking, about sending Vixen to Best Friends.
She is a fantastic cat: highly intelligent (therefore easily bored and creative), confident (substitute aggressive), large (bully). I would love her as an only cat. But our household is not a good place for her to be.
Right now, we are working on behavior modification. When she chases one of the fraidy cats, she has to go downstairs. When she tips over a water dish and rolls it around the room, she goes downstairs. (Usually, I put the water bowls in the bathtub.) I have learned not to pick her up and put her downstairs unless done very gently (she recently blackened an eye and pierced a vein in my wrist over a matter of four days). I am beginning to suspect she has had some physical abuse that sets her off easily. (Vixen is a former pet, not feral-born.) She is so intelligent that when she mishehaves all I have to do as a rule is open the basement door and point the way.
What a character...!
Sharon Talbert Friends of Campus Cats
> >I wonder whether they have a room for cats with catitudes...I have one > >whose latest passion is tipping over the ribbit dishes full of water. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Sherry <--- Wondering if there's a kitty-version of ADHD?
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