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Luvskats00 - 30 Dec 2003 04:59 GMT
My 4 year old (neutered) male dsh baby has been with me since he was 2 months
old. He had a companion - until August...my other cat (18 year old spayed dsh
female) passed away.  I adopted a 5 year old (spayed) dsh female 6-7 weeks ago.
Resident cat has never allowed new cat to remain in one place..he chases her.
So, I kept new cat in bedroom and resident cat in the rest of the house. I
allowed them to mingle - supervised - for small periods of time throughout the
day/night. When resident cat became too much of a bully, new cat hid behind the
bookcase.

A pipe broke in my kitchen, forcing removal of parts of the wall, kitchen
cabinets,etc.  Now that everything has been removed from the kitchen and
plaster is to dry (and eventually wall is to be painted, etc.) my resident cat
is not able to have access to the remaineder of apartment. Both cats need to be
in the bedroom.

There's the problem. Even if I cage new cat, resident cat goes around the cage
for hours bothering new cat.  I put a sheet over the cage, but it's not serving
as protection.

I exhausted all options for foster situations and was looking to board new
cat....I hate to do it. There's one cat facility where they board cats in
"mini-rooms", not cages and let cats out to play.  

Any other ideas will be welcome. I was looking to rent a second apartment (in
my building) for a month - if possible - and let new kitty stay there. No luck
so far.  I'm in Queens, NY.  

Any ideas will be welcome! Thanks.
zuzu22@webtv.net - 30 Dec 2003 06:47 GMT
You should find a new home for the second cat. Forcing her to live the
way she has, being antagonized by your cat or completely separated for
the rest of her life is cruel. You are going to have to swallow your
pride and admit that you made very poor decisions regarding this
adoption. Don't make the cat suffer for your ignorance. Find her a good
home in a one cat household where she won't be attacked and isolated.

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Luvskats00 - 30 Dec 2003 20:06 GMT
To: zuzu22@webtv.ne

Did you take your medication today?
equalizer - 30 Dec 2003 09:38 GMT
<SNIP story of unfathomable moronitude>

Why don't you have the cat DECLAWED? You're very, very good at that!

In all seriousness, find a no-kill organization or a responsible adult
to find a home for BOTH cats. You're unfit to own cats, or earthworms
for that matter, and shouldn't even be trusted with the task of finding
them new homes.

HTH!!

eq
Luvskats00 - 30 Dec 2003 20:23 GMT
To equalizer..

Why are you so afraid to post a legitimate ID? So you can spread false
information?

I'm good at having cats declawed? Please prove that, ya twit.  I have offered -
at least 4 times - to provide personal/professional references as to my
character, affiliation w/cat rescue/etc. You, however, can't even own up to a
legitimate ID. It's obvious what you're all about...trolling!

I finally understand your mental problem... You take my statement about
declawing as a last resort,  lift the word "declaw" from my post, and add your
own false information - attributing it to me.

You're a maggot, a troll..and should not be alive.
Why don't you have the cat DECLAWED? You're very, very good at that!

In all seriousness, find a no-kill organization or a responsible adult
to find a home for BOTH cats. You're unfit to own cats, or earthworms
for that matter, and shouldn't even be trusted with the task of finding
them new homes.
equalizer - 30 Dec 2003 21:21 GMT
>To equalizer..
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>character, affiliation w/cat rescue/etc. You, however, can't even own up to a
>legitimate ID. It's obvious what you're all about...trolling!

What?!? I'm not providing a "legitimate id", like Nywriter, Awriteny, or
Luvscat? Haw Haw, you are THE moron, aren't you?

And, we're ALL waiting -- what's stopping you -- post your
personal/professional references that you're always going on about,
what's stopping you?!?

>I finally understand your mental problem... You take my statement about
>declawing as a last resort,  lift the word "declaw" from my post, and add your
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>for that matter, and shouldn't even be trusted with the task of finding
>them new homes.
Luvskats00 - 30 Dec 2003 22:32 GMT
Equilizer - the idiot who insists on hiding behind a phony ID...

As usual, you can't post anything but false information. Is it because you're
mentally ill? There is help available..perhaps medication, too.

I offered to provide references...but never did I say I'd post it publicly.
Since you prove to be a troll..I wouldn't involve other legitimate - ethical
people and businesses to someone who can't even post a correct ID.  You haven't
proved you're mentally fit, either.

Here's the deal...the legitimate deal. You provide your real name and address,
and email address so it can be verified. Then, I will provide the names/phone
numbers of my vet, 2 vets I worked for, the manager of a shelter where I
volunteered, two heads of rescue groups where I volunteered AND the head of the
rescue group that OK'd this adoption. (She has been involved w/the cat's
problems since day 1).
equalizer - 30 Dec 2003 22:43 GMT
>Equilizer - the idiot who insists on hiding behind a phony ID...
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>rescue group that OK'd this adoption. (She has been involved w/the cat's
>problems since day 1).

I really don't care for giving my info to a dangerous sociopath such as
yourself, Abby. I also don't care about your credentials. If you care to
post them, that's up to you. I could care LESS if you have a PhD -- the
issue here, and on many other groups where you're posting right now, is
about your abrasive behavior. However, like a true sociopath, you're
acting blind in the face of popular opinion and denying that behavior.

You have a history of bringing up pills, and meds, and mental illness,
and trolling to MANY people who confront and challenge you. Do you think
it may actually be that you're projecting?!?

eq
Cheryl - 31 Dec 2003 00:43 GMT
Dec 2003:

>>Equilizer - the idiot who insists on hiding behind a phony ID...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> eq

Aw man.. she already said she is insane.  I find it hard to rag on the
mentally ill, don't you?
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equalizer - 31 Dec 2003 01:16 GMT
<SNIP>

>Aw man.. she already said she is insane.  I find it hard to rag on the
>mentally ill, don't you?
>msg-id <20031230134802.12262.00002257@mb-m05.aol.com>

LOL!

Well, I think chronologically, the actual event pre-dated that one by
QUITE a bit. But I guess it's all pretty cumulative anyway.

eq
Cat Protector - 31 Dec 2003 01:38 GMT
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> Dec 2003:
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> mentally ill, don't you?
> msg-id <20031230134802.12262.00002257@mb-m05.aol.com>
Luvskats00 - 31 Dec 2003 04:04 GMT
The coward who uses a false ID -equalizer- to hide behind posts

>I really don't care for giving my info to a dangerous sociopath such as
yourself.

I am not the one hiding. You are. This way you can continue to post false
information without fear of being caught. How long have you been demented?
Oh..sorry..you wouldn't know...since you are - demented!
equalizer - 31 Dec 2003 09:14 GMT
>The coward who uses a false ID -equalizer- to hide behind posts
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>information without fear of being caught. How long have you been demented?
>Oh..sorry..you wouldn't know...since you are - demented!

I notice looking at some of the threads you are now involved in on other
newsgroups right now, you are using similar verbiage towards other
people involving mental illness, dementia, pills, etc. As well as your
old favorite of twit, twit, twit! That alone proves my point of YOUR
illness, as it has in the past. You've finished yourself again and as in
that time, when you had to discard your screen name and start over,
you're failing to see the obvious. You're also still going on about this
loony theory about me "hiding", and using "false ID's", because you're
apparently using your real ID of Luvscats00, which we all know now is
what's on your birth certificate.

You're being laughed at BIG TIME by all who are witnessing this exchange
between us right now, Abby. You're losing ground. You've lost the
credibility a LOOOOONG time ago on Usenet, but as before, your illness
doesn't allow you to see the oncoming truck who's path you've put
yourself into. Just look at the responses you're getting on all these
different threads. It's not a coincidence -- popular opinion is speaking
loud and clear -- your "flaw" isn't allowing you to see it.

eq
Ted Davis - 30 Dec 2003 14:00 GMT
>My 4 year old (neutered) male dsh baby has been with me since he was 2 months
>old. He had a companion - until August...my other cat (18 year old spayed dsh
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>day/night. When resident cat became too much of a bully, new cat hid behind the
>bookcase.

<snip>

>Any ideas will be welcome! Thanks.

Sometimes a cat simply will not get along with one or more others.  In
the last year or so, I've has one that would attack every other cat -
he had to be not the dominant cat, but the only cat (I think he is
responsible for the dissappearance of one).  I found him a single cat
home ... twice.  I also have several that don't get along with certain
others, but since they have 24/7 access to outdoors, they make do.

A city apartment is a very different place from a rural home, so you
really do need a different approach.  Many people recommend Feliway
for all sorts of behavior problems involving stress - you might try
that, after all, a construction project is certainly a stressful
situation.

T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu)
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Luvskats00 - 30 Dec 2003 20:30 GMT
tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu
writes

>Sometimes a cat simply will not get along with one or more others.  >...I've
has one that would attack every other cat -
>he had to be not the dominant cat, but the only cat...I found him a single cat
>home ... twice
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>that, after all, a construction project is certainly a stressful
>situation.

Thanks, so much, for your response. I bought every type of Feliway on the
market when I first brought the new cat home. Not only did it not do a thing,
it triggered something and now my respiratory problems are worse than ever
(Flonaise made it even worse...I'm not allergic to cats, thank goodness). I
made a decision to keep the cat - status quo - and look for a new place to
live. Perhaps a new environement - with a second or third bedroom (and better
ventilation for my allergies) will be the solution.

I can't move until the Summer...I think we can all hold out 'til then.
Mary - 30 Dec 2003 16:54 GMT
>Any ideas will be welcome! Thanks

There is medication for the bully cat to help him relax, plus Feliway. I'd also
try to play with the bully a lot to tire him out. Then I'd let the bully smell
the blankie of the new cat to get used to his smell. I'd brush them both with
the same brush. Also try to reward bully cat whenever he is near the new cat
and being nice. In your limited space, try to make an area just for the bully
cat, and one for the other cat. Give them each their own scratchy tree, pillow
and litter box, so maybe they will feel like they have their own territories.
Worse comes to worse, it might be an idea to start looking around for a good
home for the new cat. I have to place one of my nice cats because my bully cat
was not to nice to him. I waited til I found a great new place for him.
Luvskats00 - 30 Dec 2003 20:41 GMT
mmmaryinla@aol.comspam  (Mary)

>There is medication for the bully cat to help him relax, plus Feliway. I'd
>also
>try to play with the bully a lot to tire him out. Then I'd let the bully
>smell
>the blankie of the new cat to get used to his smell. I'd brush them both with
>the same brush.....

Thanks for the response. I failed to mention that I originally posted (for
help) when I first brought the new cat home - 7-8 weeks ago. I listened to all
advice - many conflicting w/each other. Do this/don't do this, etc.  I kept the
cats separated...put toys-towels w/smells of the other cat, brushed 'em w/the
same brush. Let them meet for short periods, etc.

Tried Feliway..no luck. Advised (by newsgroup members) to drug resident cat.
Didn't feel that was OK.

Both cats have slept together for short periods (up to 90 minutes) in the same
room. That's a good sign. Recent crisis - pipe broke in kitchen wall caused all
sorts of panic. Cabinets had to be taken down/dishes all over the place. I had
to put paper up by the plaster so cat couldnt' get to the wet wall.
Cleaned/scrubbed entire kitchen so cat could at least go there without me
getting hysterical about a health hazard. Also, I decided on moving to a bigger
place - one w/2 or more bedrooms. Things will work out. New cat is a
darling..very loving.
Patrick - 01 Jan 2004 18:40 GMT
> My 4 year old (neutered) male dsh baby has been with me since he was
> 2 months old. He had a companion - until August...my other cat (18
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Any ideas will be welcome! Thanks.

(My 2cents-worth and apologys if I offend)
I'd give the 'resident' a good 'clip' and a good-telliing-off (have the cat
see the hurt in *your* eyes).
By 'a good clip', I mean a physical contact that will demand the creatures
attention and wont be taken as 'praise'.

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